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December 01, 2020, 12:00:00 AM
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This stakenet and a bunch user like @OP trying to shiling this token on different board.

I already see a lot of thread about stakenet on almost trading/altcoin board, now they are shining the token by giving some statement about "DeFI" when right now this type investment was quite popular.
Just saw it also and Obviously the First replies comes from a Newbie that almost no post supporting the Post of another newbie that promoting a newbie project also.

Looking at the pattern we can simply find the Idea of them shilling for this Riding for the popularity project.

Almost every New token are Pointing the Congestion in Bitcoin transactions Whenever there is a Hype ,But the truth is they are only gathering a prospective Victims.
I agree that some of the posts come off as artificial. I suppose it can't be helped in the crypto space where shilling and astroturfing are the norm.
It's sad that no one with influence is talking about what Stakenet DEX is doing. It's got a lot of promise to it as an L2 DEX that can swap real BTC and LTC for real ETH and ERCs off-chain, but most with influence in crypto continue to promote all the layer 2 components XSN is employing (i.e. Lightning Network or L2 ETH solutions) without giving them an ounce of recognition, or they back Uniswap clones with lots of ICO money instead.  Undecided
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December 01, 2020, 06:27:30 PM
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This stakenet and a bunch user like @OP trying to shiling this token on different board.

I already see a lot of thread about stakenet on almost trading/altcoin board, now they are shining the token by giving some statement about "DeFI" when right now this type investment was quite popular.
Just saw it also and Obviously the First replies comes from a Newbie that almost no post supporting the Post of another newbie that promoting a newbie project also.

Looking at the pattern we can simply find the Idea of them shilling for this Riding for the popularity project.

Almost every New token are Pointing the Congestion in Bitcoin transactions Whenever there is a Hype ,But the truth is they are only gathering a prospective Victims.
I agree that some of the posts come off as artificial. I suppose it can't be helped in the crypto space where shilling and astroturfing are the norm.
It's sad that no one with influence is talking about what Stakenet DEX is doing. It's got a lot of promise to it as an L2 DEX that can swap real BTC and LTC for real ETH and ERCs off-chain, but most with influence in crypto continue to promote all the layer 2 components XSN is employing (i.e. Lightning Network or L2 ETH solutions) without giving them an ounce of recognition, or they back Uniswap clones with lots of ICO money instead.  Undecided

I guess once Ethereum is integrated and you can trade BTC => LINK instantly that people will actually take notice, haha.
On top of that a new top tier exchange will certainly help as well, which is coming soon
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December 01, 2020, 09:21:08 PM
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I guess once Ethereum is integrated and you can trade BTC => LINK instantly that people will actually take notice, haha.
On top of that a new top tier exchange will certainly help as well, which is coming soon

Any idea which one this could be?

Ah yeah.
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December 01, 2020, 10:10:04 PM
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I guess once Ethereum is integrated and you can trade BTC => LINK instantly that people will actually take notice, haha.
On top of that a new top tier exchange will certainly help as well, which is coming soon
I'm more excited about the prospect of XMR/BTC atomic swaps being added to the DEX.  Grin
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December 02, 2020, 04:13:37 AM
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I guess once Ethereum is integrated and you can trade BTC => LINK instantly that people will actually take notice, haha.
On top of that a new top tier exchange will certainly help as well, which is coming soon

Any idea which one this could be?
From what I hear it's a top 20 exchange.

I guess once Ethereum is integrated and you can trade BTC => LINK instantly that people will actually take notice, haha.
On top of that a new top tier exchange will certainly help as well, which is coming soon
I'm more excited about the prospect of XMR/BTC atomic swaps being added to the DEX.  Grin
I think XMR is a long way away from being lightning ready. Of course normal atomic swaps are being worked on atm.
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December 02, 2020, 05:20:43 AM
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It is natural that in a situation where traffic is high, the fee will soar and it cannot be avoided, otherwise if the traffic is not much it will return to normal.
the main problem because the transactions are mostly of small value so that they have an influence and become a conversation and look for new alternatives. as long as the alternative is reliable it will certainly be used, but it takes trust to be accepted.

I hope that this is the renewal you are looking for, it is not easy to accept something new if it is not based on a very understandable belief, it will take time for that because it is not easy to change existing habits and beliefs.

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December 02, 2020, 09:00:33 AM
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I think XMR is a long way away from being lightning ready. Of course normal atomic swaps are being worked on atm.
XSN can handle 240 tps right? It's generally pretty fast on L1 and capable of doing regular atomic swaps, so I'm hopeful.  Smiley
Is there a way to do XMR/XSN swaps on L1 without having to download both blockchains? This I wonder.

It is natural that in a situation where traffic is high, the fee will soar and it cannot be avoided, otherwise if the traffic is not much it will return to normal.
the main problem because the transactions are mostly of small value so that they have an influence and become a conversation and look for new alternatives. as long as the alternative is reliable it will certainly be used, but it takes trust to be accepted.

I hope that this is the renewal you are looking for, it is not easy to accept something new if it is not based on a very understandable belief, it will take time for that because it is not easy to change existing habits and beliefs.
Wise. In the event that BTC and ETH continue to take off into 2022, a proper L2 DEX and bridging infrastructure could see them go much higher than expected because it would make them so much more convenient and immediately usable.
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December 02, 2020, 04:02:34 PM
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I think XMR is a long way away from being lightning ready. Of course normal atomic swaps are being worked on atm.
XSN can handle 240 tps right? It's generally pretty fast on L1 and capable of doing regular atomic swaps, so I'm hopeful.  Smiley
Is there a way to do XMR/XSN swaps on L1 without having to download both blockchains? This I wonder.

It is natural that in a situation where traffic is high, the fee will soar and it cannot be avoided, otherwise if the traffic is not much it will return to normal.
the main problem because the transactions are mostly of small value so that they have an influence and become a conversation and look for new alternatives. as long as the alternative is reliable it will certainly be used, but it takes trust to be accepted.

I hope that this is the renewal you are looking for, it is not easy to accept something new if it is not based on a very understandable belief, it will take time for that because it is not easy to change existing habits and beliefs.
Wise. In the event that BTC and ETH continue to take off into 2022, a proper L2 DEX and bridging infrastructure could see them go much higher than expected because it would make them so much more convenient and immediately usable.

True, I believe this project will be off the charts as soon as instant LINK/BTC and LINK/ETH transactions is doable.

Nobody cares at this point, which frankly gives me more time to accumulate, so not complaining, haha. I wonder which top 20 exchange the team has planned to list XSN on, as stated in their latest announcement though.
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December 03, 2020, 06:54:41 AM
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as stated in their latest announcement though.
I must have missed that. I'll have to give it a read. Thanks man.  Smiley
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December 03, 2020, 03:02:03 PM
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as stated in their latest announcement though.
I must have missed that. I'll have to give it a read. Thanks man.  Smiley

You're welcome, it's at the very bottom of that announcement.
Really excited to see which exchange they've made deals with!

I'm sure it will make it much more appealing for new investors to get onboard.
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December 04, 2020, 03:39:26 PM
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You're welcome, it's at the very bottom of that announcement.
Really excited to see which exchange they've made deals with!

I'm sure it will make it much more appealing for new investors to get onboard.
I'm more excited about the article they published on ETH scalability. A small part here:
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What makes Connext the best choice for our DEX infrastructure is their recently released protocol, Vector, a cross-chain routing network that can bounce between other L2s, ETH shards, primary blockchains and even EVM-compatible chains such as Binance smart chain, Ethereum classic, TOMO chain, and others.

Vector supports conditional transfers routed over intermediary nodes, instant cross-chain and cross-asset transactions, plugin support for non-EVM turing-complete chains, zkRollups, easy deposit/withdraw interface, and low gas costs. All of this is packaged in a lightweight program, containing no more than 2500 lines of code.

Other advantages of Connext are client stability, supporting all operating systems including Windows, and live support for ETH, USDT and DAI. All these mean we will be able to easily add further pairs once we successfully implement and test Vector protocol, making us the first DEX adding support for BTC/USDT and other crypto-stablecoin pairs, without any need for wrapped coins on Ethereum mainnet.
A lot more is in play than I expected.  Grin
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December 07, 2020, 06:54:18 PM
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You're welcome, it's at the very bottom of that announcement.
Really excited to see which exchange they've made deals with!

I'm sure it will make it much more appealing for new investors to get onboard.
I'm more excited about the article they published on ETH scalability. A small part here:
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What makes Connext the best choice for our DEX infrastructure is their recently released protocol, Vector, a cross-chain routing network that can bounce between other L2s, ETH shards, primary blockchains and even EVM-compatible chains such as Binance smart chain, Ethereum classic, TOMO chain, and others.

Vector supports conditional transfers routed over intermediary nodes, instant cross-chain and cross-asset transactions, plugin support for non-EVM turing-complete chains, zkRollups, easy deposit/withdraw interface, and low gas costs. All of this is packaged in a lightweight program, containing no more than 2500 lines of code.

Other advantages of Connext are client stability, supporting all operating systems including Windows, and live support for ETH, USDT and DAI. All these mean we will be able to easily add further pairs once we successfully implement and test Vector protocol, making us the first DEX adding support for BTC/USDT and other crypto-stablecoin pairs, without any need for wrapped coins on Ethereum mainnet.
A lot more is in play than I expected.  Grin

Interesting, do you have a link to that article by any means? I really want to take a deeper look into it  Smiley
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December 07, 2020, 08:06:10 PM
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You're welcome, it's at the very bottom of that announcement.
Really excited to see which exchange they've made deals with!

I'm sure it will make it much more appealing for new investors to get onboard.
I'm more excited about the article they published on ETH scalability. A small part here:
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What makes Connext the best choice for our DEX infrastructure is their recently released protocol, Vector, a cross-chain routing network that can bounce between other L2s, ETH shards, primary blockchains and even EVM-compatible chains such as Binance smart chain, Ethereum classic, TOMO chain, and others.

Vector supports conditional transfers routed over intermediary nodes, instant cross-chain and cross-asset transactions, plugin support for non-EVM turing-complete chains, zkRollups, easy deposit/withdraw interface, and low gas costs. All of this is packaged in a lightweight program, containing no more than 2500 lines of code.

Other advantages of Connext are client stability, supporting all operating systems including Windows, and live support for ETH, USDT and DAI. All these mean we will be able to easily add further pairs once we successfully implement and test Vector protocol, making us the first DEX adding support for BTC/USDT and other crypto-stablecoin pairs, without any need for wrapped coins on Ethereum mainnet.
A lot more is in play than I expected.  Grin

Interesting, do you have a link to that article by any means? I really want to take a deeper look into it  Smiley

Check this out!
https://medium.com/stakenet/ethereum-scalability-solutions-connext-and-stakenet-xsn-research-4edb29267bb6
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December 07, 2020, 10:55:17 PM
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I think XMR is a long way away from being lightning ready. Of course normal atomic swaps are being worked on atm.
XSN can handle 240 tps right? It's generally pretty fast on L1 and capable of doing regular atomic swaps, so I'm hopeful.  Smiley
Is there a way to do XMR/XSN swaps on L1 without having to download both blockchains? This I wonder.

It is natural that in a situation where traffic is high, the fee will soar and it cannot be avoided, otherwise if the traffic is not much it will return to normal.
the main problem because the transactions are mostly of small value so that they have an influence and become a conversation and look for new alternatives. as long as the alternative is reliable it will certainly be used, but it takes trust to be accepted.

I hope that this is the renewal you are looking for, it is not easy to accept something new if it is not based on a very understandable belief, it will take time for that because it is not easy to change existing habits and beliefs.
Wise. In the event that BTC and ETH continue to take off into 2022, a proper L2 DEX and bridging infrastructure could see them go much higher than expected because it would make them so much more convenient and immediately usable.

True, I believe this project will be off the charts as soon as instant LINK/BTC and LINK/ETH transactions is doable.

Nobody cares at this point, which frankly gives me more time to accumulate, so not complaining, haha. I wonder which top 20 exchange the team has planned to list XSN on, as stated in their latest announcement though.

I have been watching Stakenet for several months now. The real Q is the Promise of Stakenet: A Breakthrough or a Gimmick? So I have tried it for the past 6 months (quarantine period lol). Their inbuilt DEX makes BTC/LTC trades instantly. Ethereum is getting integrated as well. They have a simple swap service and a DEX for those who want to actually day trade. Through their DEX you'll have access to all the major exchanges through liquidity providers.

Not bad right? It sounds and looks really good but now it is being ignored by the crypto community as a whole.
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December 08, 2020, 07:00:13 AM
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I think XMR is a long way away from being lightning ready. Of course normal atomic swaps are being worked on atm.
XSN can handle 240 tps right? It's generally pretty fast on L1 and capable of doing regular atomic swaps, so I'm hopeful.  Smiley
Is there a way to do XMR/XSN swaps on L1 without having to download both blockchains? This I wonder.

It is natural that in a situation where traffic is high, the fee will soar and it cannot be avoided, otherwise if the traffic is not much it will return to normal.
the main problem because the transactions are mostly of small value so that they have an influence and become a conversation and look for new alternatives. as long as the alternative is reliable it will certainly be used, but it takes trust to be accepted.

I hope that this is the renewal you are looking for, it is not easy to accept something new if it is not based on a very understandable belief, it will take time for that because it is not easy to change existing habits and beliefs.
Wise. In the event that BTC and ETH continue to take off into 2022, a proper L2 DEX and bridging infrastructure could see them go much higher than expected because it would make them so much more convenient and immediately usable.

True, I believe this project will be off the charts as soon as instant LINK/BTC and LINK/ETH transactions is doable.

Nobody cares at this point, which frankly gives me more time to accumulate, so not complaining, haha. I wonder which top 20 exchange the team has planned to list XSN on, as stated in their latest announcement though.

I have been watching Stakenet for several months now. The real Q is the Promise of Stakenet: A Breakthrough or a Gimmick? So I have tried it for the past 6 months (quarantine period lol). Their inbuilt DEX makes BTC/LTC trades instantly. Ethereum is getting integrated as well. They have a simple swap service and a DEX for those who want to actually day trade. Through their DEX you'll have access to all the major exchanges through liquidity providers.

Not bad right? It sounds and looks really good but now it is being ignored by the crypto community as a whole.
SSUI and ETH integration will make the DEX too useful to ignore
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December 13, 2020, 03:49:01 AM
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You're welcome, it's at the very bottom of that announcement.
Really excited to see which exchange they've made deals with!

I'm sure it will make it much more appealing for new investors to get onboard.
I'm more excited about the article they published on ETH scalability. A small part here:
Quote
What makes Connext the best choice for our DEX infrastructure is their recently released protocol, Vector, a cross-chain routing network that can bounce between other L2s, ETH shards, primary blockchains and even EVM-compatible chains such as Binance smart chain, Ethereum classic, TOMO chain, and others.

Vector supports conditional transfers routed over intermediary nodes, instant cross-chain and cross-asset transactions, plugin support for non-EVM turing-complete chains, zkRollups, easy deposit/withdraw interface, and low gas costs. All of this is packaged in a lightweight program, containing no more than 2500 lines of code.

Other advantages of Connext are client stability, supporting all operating systems including Windows, and live support for ETH, USDT and DAI. All these mean we will be able to easily add further pairs once we successfully implement and test Vector protocol, making us the first DEX adding support for BTC/USDT and other crypto-stablecoin pairs, without any need for wrapped coins on Ethereum mainnet.
A lot more is in play than I expected.  Grin

I'll be interested to see where this goes.
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December 17, 2020, 12:50:07 AM
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I'll be interested to see where this goes.
Here's a small teaser of the new private build  Smiley
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December 23, 2020, 06:49:46 PM
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People are now scared of selling on the fud. You should not even invest if you are scared of the future and making money?

And now I want to leave a comment here to commend Stakenet.
Stakenet does a great job with the buying/selling of BTC.
And Stakenet launched its own DEX with instant BTC transactions.
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December 29, 2020, 04:26:49 AM
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In 10 years, Lightning Network will be as obvious as Bitcoin... Only a few people understand what LN can do and what it can imply.

This is why I understand why a project like Stakenet doesn't get more attention.
Soon they will realize how important Stakenet as it's the only project working on trustless instant BTC, ETH, LTC, transactions with next to 0 fees on their DEX and Multi-Currency Wallet (built in 1 dApp). People use Bitcoin to INVEST and NOT SPEND so they don't care much about the onchain fees/transaction fees.
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January 08, 2021, 11:10:17 PM
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In 10 years, Lightning Network will be as obvious as Bitcoin... Only a few people understand what LN can do and what it can imply.

This is why I understand why a project like Stakenet doesn't get more attention.
Soon they will realize how important Stakenet as it's the only project working on trustless instant BTC, ETH, LTC, transactions with next to 0 fees on their DEX and Multi-Currency Wallet (built in 1 dApp). People use Bitcoin to INVEST and NOT SPEND so they don't care much about the onchain fees/transaction fees.
No idea how many more times we'll see BTC and ETH clog to a crawl before people realize the potential of L2
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