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August 21, 2020, 01:23:12 PM
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No way. Bitcoin will be back under $10k soon enough whether stocks crash or not. There is no way this market can sustain prices above $10k for anything but momentary bouts of speculative euphoria. Eventually the price will be back under $10k for good.
Bitcoin might go down below $10k again but it wont last on that price level, for good is to create panic. You have to accept that bitcoin is gold, and it continues to rise of over time. The stock market crash can't bring bitcoin go to the moon, we need the mass adoption so by this we can reach a new all time high. People are switching to gold, its good if they choose bitcoin market as well so we can benefit from the stock market crash.
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August 21, 2020, 01:36:56 PM
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No way. Bitcoin will be back under $10k soon enough whether stocks crash or not. There is no way this market can sustain prices above $10k for anything but momentary bouts of speculative euphoria. Eventually the price will be back under $10k for good.

It may fall back or not that we need to see as the time passes, but again bitcoin has that bounce back ability and will be back again above 10k levels. Only thing the time factor is what needs to be considered as now it seems it is trying to move above 12k but not finding much resistance at those levels. Maye climb till 13k as well once we have some support passing at 12k .

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August 21, 2020, 01:51:31 PM
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No way. Bitcoin will be back under $10k soon enough whether stocks crash or not. There is no way this market can sustain prices above $10k for anything but momentary bouts of speculative euphoria. Eventually the price will be back under $10k for good.

It may fall back or not that we need to see as the time passes, but again bitcoin has that bounce back ability and will be back again above 10k levels. Only thing the time factor is what needs to be considered as now it seems it is trying to move above 12k but not finding much resistance at those levels. Maye climb till 13k as well once we have some support passing at 12k .


This scenario is not surprising at all since we already so many of this, there are so many times that we see some major upset and people got panic but we should remember that after a dump the huge pump will follow and for sure weak hands are crying since some of them sell their balances even if they are at loss and those knowledgeable are earning huge bucks today.

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August 21, 2020, 02:08:00 PM
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Panic selling will always be happen in any time especially when the price has been increased moreover climbed sharply we will another dump can be happen and it is happening now. Most people still tempted to the short term profit and they will always buy the hyip come back again.

It will be different with the instutional investor or someone who knows the investing properly, they will look to huge amount of return whatever how long it will. At least for those who sell bitcoin in this situation they're already know how the potential it is and yeah that is their strategy we can't blame them.
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August 21, 2020, 02:30:15 PM
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This time when the stock market crashes, Bitcoin will go to moon!

No. Bitcoin will crash together with stock market. Bitcoin will go to the moon only if stockmarket will grow or at least be stable. When stock market crash happens people will need money. 1 to buy cheap stock. Or to simply live. Stock market crash also means people losing jobs and people spending less.

As we see right now they will defend stocks no matter what. Democrats, Republicans, whoever. Bitcoin will continue and finish bull market and there will be no stockmarket crash until then. We might not even see stockmarket crash in this decade. We will have Bitcoin bear market and another bull market until then. 
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August 21, 2020, 04:09:19 PM
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This time people will sell their stocks and transfer money to bitcoin exchanges. Stock go down. Bitcoin goes up
Its just a conspiracy theory but I don't see much people are selling their shares to buy cryptos and bitcoins, now only people started to see it as an alternative to traditional investment so it will take lot more time for people to get convinced.And I don't really want to stocks to go down and it won't go either because without any economic activities there is no point of having a currency.
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August 21, 2020, 07:04:11 PM
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This time people will sell their stocks and transfer money to bitcoin exchanges. Stock go down. Bitcoin goes up
Its just a conspiracy theory but I don't see much people are selling their shares to buy cryptos and bitcoins, now only people started to see it as an alternative to traditional investment so it will take lot more time for people to get convinced. And I don't really want to stocks to go down and it won't go either because without any economic activities there is no point of having a currency.

Traditional investors are wise and they will find ways to continue gaining in what situation might be
there inside the market that they are doing their business.
We need to consider that stocks traders are also monitoring every potentials from other venues of
investments, some of them might be inside now
Playing with the whales and some are still doing research and deeper studies in regards on handling
volatilities, we can't assume but we can expect their participation in due time.

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August 21, 2020, 07:05:31 PM
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I would totally understand why the price would go down during the pandemic, there is really not that many shocking situation because let's face it nobody knew what is going to happen. We were told that there is a disease out there that could kill us if we go out and even if it fails to kill us and just make us bed ridden and breath difficultly, it could kill someone we love if we infect them.

So, the whole world stayed inside their houses for at least 2-3 months, sure some people went out anyway because groceries were needed and so forth and what not but we are talking about only a limited outside access. When you tell the whole world to stay at home obviously they will sell their gold, their stock, their crypto basically anything they could and sell them to make sure they can survive for months.

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August 21, 2020, 08:12:50 PM
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the only reason why bitcoin price dropped during the worldwide panic was that the bull market hadn't started yet and price was stuck behind a rather strong resistance and couldn't break it. so the tendency to drop was already there and whales took advantage along side the panic sell.

if another similar crash happens during the bull market it won't affect bitcoin at all. it will just lead to some whales losing a huge amount of money trying to go against the market just like what happened during 2017 and bankrupt many whales.


What you are saying is quite reasonable but I am not so sure about it because, after all, bitcoin today is conceived as an asset by most investors. A volatile, high-risk asset. Not a currencý, not the best store of value, but an asset.

What happened in March is that investors, faced with the catastrophe that was coming, sold all kinds of assets en masse to obtain liquidity. That is why everything went down, not only the stock market and bitcoin, but also gold.

And that can also happen again, no matter what the tendency is.

Astute observation regarding the liquidity vacuum that emerged in March. I totally agree.

However, with the NASDAQ and S&P 500 trading at all-time highs, with gold trading at all-time highs, I believe the market has already priced in the COVID-19 fallout and is indicating it trusts the Fed to provide a floor for the market. It smells like a new bull market, as sickening as that seems given the underlying fundamental context.

That floor will apply to BTC as well, since this question is really about overall investor risk tolerance across all markets. Sharp corrections will occur, but I think pooya87 is correct that they will be reversed relatively quickly and will show in hindsight as bear traps.

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August 22, 2020, 08:43:49 PM
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To be fair, that March crash affected practically every asset out there. Stocks crashed, as did Bitcoin, and yeah, Bitcoin did a swift recovery after that, but so did stocks, really. Printing more money in the US, why wouldn't stocks just go up too right?

No way. Bitcoin will be back under $10k soon enough whether stocks crash or not. There is no way this market can sustain prices above $10k for anything but momentary bouts of speculative euphoria. Eventually the price will be back under $10k for good.

I'm not normally keen to disagree with bearish sentiment but I don't think euphoria alone is responsible for this. And I don't think there really is huge euphoria just yet (not for Bitcoin anyway) cause we'll all know when it's here.

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August 22, 2020, 09:23:07 PM
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Its just a conspiracy theory but I don't see much people are selling their shares to buy cryptos and bitcoins, now only people started to see it as an alternative to traditional investment so it will take lot more time for people to get convinced.
We will not know who are those people are selling stocks.

Financial institutions are starting to see the importance of bitcoin. They're being aware that it could be big as they could imagine.

And I don't really want to stocks to go down and it won't go either because without any economic activities there is no point of having a currency.
Economy will remain regardless of the condition, for example, the pandemic.

Why it won't go down? as you see, there were news in the past that tells about stocks plummeting. But the same as bitcoin, they won't be like that for a long time.

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August 22, 2020, 11:35:18 PM
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Stocks crashing when dollars are weak is not especially likely when most large stocks are invested globally so with a good income across the world in many currencies.    They share some correlation to Bitcoin which is also globally distributed across multiple nations currencies and populations, its a resource because it allow people in one country to touch base with an entire world economy not just their own national situation.

Most value considerations I see like a weighing scales, it takes alot of imbalance to cause a crash so theres a rush to capture value elsewhere.   The most obvious scenario is stocks sell to cash to pay off bills, that immediate requirement is less likely without defaults and deflation.   Bitcoin needs more yield to have a strong divergence.

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No way. Bitcoin will be back under $10k soon enough whether stocks crash or not. There is no way this market can sustain prices above $10k for anything but momentary bouts of speculative euphoria. Eventually the price will be back under $10k for good.

What a sight for sore eyes. Proudhon is back!

He's like the bear troll with the Midas touch. When he predicts doom, the price moons. Get ready for a bullish 2020, everyone. Tongue

Now if only kwukduck would make an appearance.....

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There's a whole speculation that stocks and bitcoin are somewhat correlate, in which as you have describe. But probably that's one part of the equation, investors are constantly shifting funds around and putting where it can grow.
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On this part, what can I say is it is really difference on how the stocks and Bitcoin are correlate to each other. But it's right, only pure SPECULATION. This is also what I noticed before and keep asking about the correlate part of these two but as time goes by, I started to understand somehow they don't really correlate (for my own opinion).
For now, for what I am experiencing on Bitcoin, Bitcoin is just being a Bitcoin, a huge volatility, and parabolic run is always possible, just like what happened last 2017 end of the month to 2018.
There's no such thing as parabolic run, well it could be bullish at times but a continue growth is not possible and as you have said, it ended in 2018 and goes on a long bearish trend.

@exstasie - then kwukduck will be proud of @Proudhon, yeah we missed that guy but it seems that we have some replacements but no one can match the legendary kwukduck. So bull run 2020-21 for us? Grin

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August 23, 2020, 04:03:29 AM
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No way. Bitcoin will be back under $10k soon enough whether stocks crash or not. There is no way this market can sustain prices above $10k for anything but momentary bouts of speculative euphoria. Eventually the price will be back under $10k for good.
In my opinion bitcoin won't be back under $10k in this year. At this time, bitcoin is strong enough and it has ability to break $15k very soon. If we support bitcoin by holding, we will be able to get some good news soon.
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No way. Bitcoin will be back under $10k soon enough whether stocks crash or not. There is no way this market can sustain prices above $10k for anything but momentary bouts of speculative euphoria. Eventually the price will be back under $10k for good.
In my opinion bitcoin won't be back under $10k in this year. At this time, bitcoin is strong enough and it has ability to break $15k very soon. If we support bitcoin by holding, we will be able to get some good news soon.

We don't know that.

It reached a good price in a short period of time, there is a chance that it can do the opposite at the same period of time. It may break barriers but I think it will again go back to 4 digits before going back to 5 digits.
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August 23, 2020, 05:15:43 AM
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No way. Bitcoin will be back under $10k soon enough whether stocks crash or not. There is no way this market can sustain prices above $10k for anything but momentary bouts of speculative euphoria. Eventually the price will be back under $10k for good.
In my opinion bitcoin won't be back under $10k in this year. At this time, bitcoin is strong enough and it has ability to break $15k very soon. If we support bitcoin by holding, we will be able to get some good news soon.
It may fall to 10,000 because there might be a correction because the Bull finally come back and move us to greater value.
remember that this is volatile market and it can change at any time.
and 15,000$ is a peanut it the effect of halving finally effect the market.









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August 23, 2020, 05:46:38 PM
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It's difficult to tell.
There is no fact about it. So many possible ways into why bitcoin went up and we don't even know if that really came from a stockholder just switching his investment.

It's a factor though, high chance.
Since stocks will go down they must find an escape pod and bitcoin could be the answer.
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August 23, 2020, 06:52:50 PM
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The reasoning is really something a lot more important than people think it is. Right now, there is really no reason why bitcoin should go down or go up without really knowing the reason. If the stock market crashes because something related to the stock market and stock market only, that would mean bitcoin price could go up and go up like crazy, but if we are talking about something that affects the economy in general and all the humanity, that means the price of bitcoin could go down as well.

A market crash in stocks due to some insider trading scandal that puts some bankers in jail (LOL I WISH!) could maybe cause the market to collapse, but it would only be regarding stock market, whereas if we are talking about pandemic for example it can effect bitcoin too.
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August 25, 2020, 12:00:50 PM
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I think that we need to take into account the situation that is happening in the stock market and occurs due to the depreciation of national currencies, as well as due to the fall of the economic crisis, which is strongly affected by the coronavirus pandemic. It is in this difficult situation that many investors are looking for an alternative and bitcoin, as well as other rated cryptocurrencies, are very profitable assets for investment. In addition, for experienced agents and traders, the cryptocurrency market provides tremendous opportunities to increase their capital thanks to the volatility of cryptocurrencies. therefore, I believe that market deals are positively calculated in the cryptocurrency market.

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