Our country was called Province of China.

[cryptoaddictchie]

Every leader is looking for short term solutions to this economic crisis because the ruling period for them is going to be 4 or 5 years so they really don't care about the things which is going to happen after a while.And if someone who wanted to stay away from the trap need to take loans from the countries which are not giving strict rules and extended time period to pay the debt.

If youre talking about President his method are quite bit different compared to previous one, I mean he is frank and let say a guy that will do anything for his countrymen. Its a shame that some companies were flagged like on what's OP photo. We are not sure though if this is really real or purposely made by someone to create fud about the government.

I have no problem if our government wants to ally itself with china(even if I don't like their government) but insulting our country's sovereignty by saying that our country is a province of China is unacceptable and should be taken seriously by our government.

I am 100% agree with you. I dont want to think that they just ignoring it due to our current debt on them. Yes we, the Philippines are debted to them but they must be civilized on how they handle stuff like this. I do want to hear any feedback from the President once he see this kind of downing to our Philippine Flag.

No offense Chinese members here, but this isnt good to labeled different country as your province. At least show some proof that it was approved by out Government. Have some knick knack balls.

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[finaleshot2016]

This post should be a warning to those countries that have debts in China because it could happen to your country as well.

Nah, I don't think so. Only the Philippines is the country China can bully and it's so embarassing. They are disgracing us in our own land without even fighting back and it s*cks! And what I hate the lost is that our government only doing gentle response on all of the issues probably because they don't want a conflict but at what cost? They continue abusing us. Don't get me wrong, I'm not promoting war against them because I don't want it either. Obviously, we're on the losing side. But I just hope we can also do like what Vietnam (take this as reference) did, they stand for their rights and not afraid to resist despite of knowing that they're a third world country as well .

I've read a lot and there's a lot of countries that have been bullied and abused by China, even 2nd world countries are included. It is so embarrassing that a country which is the leading in Asia on the past but now at the bottom because of these corrupt politicians.

I still believe that we Filipinos can manage to build our economy without relying on others

Hmm actually there's nothing wrong with strengthening our relationship with foreign countries. It's beneficial for both parties because it creates more employment and open trades. It just so happened that our current president pick a a wrong ally .

Yeah there's nothing wrong with having a relationship on other countries, but as much as possible we shouldn't rely huge matters on the other countries especially China. They will just take it as their stepping stone to conquer some of our islands and the worst part is what happening right now, disrespecting us face to face.

Looking at the situation, I think we should not take this issue in general.

The product owner involved should be the only one to be questioned. There is no way China government will treat PH as a province, I mean if they do, we should have seen several cases like that in all Chinese products in Divisoria and Chinatown Binondo. Maybe those owners looked down at PH to the point that they listed it as a province on their product.

Fortunately, the stores are now shut down and owners will be deported back to their country according to the City Mayor.

It all interconnects mate. That's why Nograles said, it's very hard to dismiss that kind of insult as a simple error, meaning, there's a chance that news about our country being a province of china are already spreading across the chinese media. Did you remember in the year 2018 where they put a banner of "Welcome to the Philippines, province of China" in QC? This thing isn't new anymore and the issue is still going on and will become worst in the next few days.


Source: twitter

Tarpaulin banners were installed in various parts of Metro Manila which was discovered by government authorities on July 12, 2018. The date also marks the second anniversary of the Philippines v. China, an international arbitration case that ruled the legality of the People's Republic of China's claims over the South China Sea.

  it all interconnects.

Territorial disputes in the South China Sea
Philippines, Province of China banners
Binondo-based beauty product listed as from ‘Manila, Province of China’ earns ire of solon
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1324634/blacklisting-of-beauty-product-maker-that-allegedly-listed-manila-as-province-of-china-sought#ixzz6Vidd1kch

[Darker45]

The country is being branded as a province of China by a mere beauty product which is probably dirt cheap and below minimum quality standard and has surely not passed all the necessary requirements to be admitted to the domestic market in the Philippines. This beauty product must have originated from an ignorant company back in China.

I would have dismissed this case outright as a nuisance if not with the political, economic, and affairs relating to international relations which are being hotly and divisively debated not just within the country or the region but within the whole world.

If I'm not mistaken, the leaders of the country current and past have been generally friendly with China although the relationship seemed to blossom a lot when the current administration started to treat the USA and the EU more of enemies rather than friends. It strategically positioned China as the apple of the eye of this poor forsaken country. From then on, all hell breaks loose.

We do not lack warnings and evidences and yet we still continue to allow ourselves to be showered with Chinese economic graces which we surely knew to be traps. While I question the capabilities of our leaders, I question more their nationalism and moral courage to steer this impoverished nation.

Dr. Mahathir of Malaysia was able to cancel at least $22.3 billion worth of China-funded projects in his country knowing full well that the acceptance of the same will drown them with Chinese debt they cannot afford to repay. This debt trap is what he calls as "new version of colonialism." Alas, the brave leaders of our country do not have the balls to do just this.

[NavI_027]

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And why do we need to make negotiations as if that territory is not our very own ? Walang mang aapi kung walang magpapa api. I know that our arsenal are 10x weaker than them but it doesn't necessarily mean that we are now raising the white flag and let this bullying happen over and over again.

We won the arbitration case and that's great! It supposed to work against them but why it seems China are not scared at all? (IMO) It's because the Duterte administration's fang is not sharp ~ change my mind. Instead of giving strong warnings they simply shrugged and convince us that everything was just an accident or unintentional tsk.

Here, look at Presidential Spokesperson's and Manila Mayor's statement regarding the issue and try to compare

See? A simple act of courage means a lot. I hope you now get what I mean.

[wiss19]

Wow this is really serious,. My country is among those that are taking loans from China and a lot of people have been blasting the government lately for taking loans from the Chinese government, but our foolish leaders keeps on giving some rubbish excuse about every stupid actions they take. This is so wrong. I have always been suspecting that the Chinese government has some evil plans and now it’s all happening.

I am even starting to wonder if all the accusations that people has been throwing at them for being behind the outbreak are true.

[Shasha80]

I can feel how annoyed the Filipina people are about this. The money trap carried out by China does not only occur in the Philippines.
However, in several Southeast Asian countries too, I looked at the purpose country China no longer controls the world economy, but
China wants to expand its territory if we see what happened in the Philippines. If this is allowed in the long run, a military war can occur.

[lienfaye]

See? A simple act of courage means a lot. I hope you now get what I mean.

Its just shows that local government officials are working way better rather than the national government regarding this issue.

As roque said no one will believe Manila is a province of china but it is insulting for filipino people to be tagged our capital city as province of their own even its not true.

Manila mayor did a good job closing down their business and requesting for the deportation of the 2 chinese businessmen (owner of the said beauty product business).

[AmoreJaz]

See? A simple act of courage means a lot. I hope you now get what I mean.

Its just shows that local government officials are working way better rather than the national government regarding this issue.

As roque said no one will believe Manila is a province of china but it is insulting for filipino people to be tagged our capital city as province of their own even its not true.

Manila mayor did a good job closing down their business and requesting for the deportation of the 2 chinese businessmen (owner of the said beauty product business).

great job by the Mayor! fast response considering coming from a politician. thats a warning to all these chinese businessmen that are already considering manila as part of China. respect is all we need! wont be surprised that they will be deported as soon as possible. doing business illegally - no permits nor license, but comfortable doing their business out of their territory?? how long have been they doing that?

[davis196]

I still believe that we Filipinos can manage to build our economy without relying on others

I don't think so.The Philippines would need lots of foreign capital,in order to industrialize and escape the "poverty trap".They can't just print the money and create capital out of nowhere.
Foreign investments and foreign debt are needed for further economic growth and development.
The problem with China is their imperialistic doctrine.The Chinese might invest in third world countries or lend them money,but eventually they would want to conquer those countries.

[amishmanish]

I still believe that we Filipinos can manage to build our economy without relying on others, we just need the right people who can handle and control it perfectly for massive development. We are already aware of how does a money trap works but there are still countries that are falling for it, that's how dangerous it is.

This is where it starts and soon, we will see more products from China that labels the Philippines as a Province of China.

There isn't a more insidious entity that knows better methods of psychological and social welfare than the beast of CCP. They have let the border dispute with India linger on for over 60 years now while continuing to show aggression and agreement alternatively. The Indian politicians were either too occupied domestically or too pussy-footed till now to respond properly. The Chinese have a policy of making inroads through utilizing the enemies weaknesses. To them, an enemy agreeing to hold talks is also an act of buying time and a weakness to be exploited. Its an expansionist and revisionist power that only settles on its own terms.

They never made such noises when they were seen as a over-populated developing country. Soon as they saw weakness in the world order, they have started doing these antics. People throughout Asia should unite against this uncalled aggression. Most of us are democracies and want nothing to have with the CCP policy of having a hierarchy of controlled and under-surveillance minions. I hope the Filipino politicians will take their stand and not allow such slow poisoning.

[buwaytress]

At least China knows you exist. (Joke).

In Malaysia, I come from the islands, and we've had a long history of living together in the Federation of Malaysia but the East islanders are often excluded in national literature. I went to the mainland in the late 1990s and the stories I heard all became my personal experience. Upon being asked where I'm from, the follow-up would something like "oh, I've never been to Indonesia/Philippines/random country they think is near Malaysia". You'd often see on TV news them getting the map, location, and country wrong, and our state (by the way the largest in Malaysia) often mislabelled under International news.

So we had all these conspiracy theories because well, surely they weren't as idiot as all that? We all study the same history in school, we all learn about our country etc. But in fact, it's really just plain ignorance. People like to say Americans are dumb and don't know anything beyond their borders. My experience is that people everywhere else who don't have the opportunity or desire to learn things outside their coccoon are really much the same everywhere in the world.

The internet and social media, and our role lately in national politics has somewhat changed perceptions and awareness.

My belated point is: this could be plain ignorance on the part of the manufacturer. Some guy gave the address. Some guy couldn't figure out where Manila was, or some guy just put Made in China everywhere on everything they do.

Doesn't excuse them, but am just saying this particular incident could be less sinister than you think =) Sorry for the unpopular opinion.

[finaleshot2016]

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...
Here, look at Presidential Spokesperson's and Manila Mayor's statement regarding the issue and try to compare

See? A simple act of courage means a lot. I hope you now get what I mean.

Mate, try to translate those statements since we're in the international section so they can understand and differentiate it.
Well, that's what I'm pointing on every discussion in social media, locals are more competent than in the national, this is only my opinion.
It's a good move for the Mayor of Manila to shut down the business and send them back to China, another fragrance in his name. (lol)

Even in my city, all of those taxes we paid are so worth it, all of certified voters got their allowance to survive the first month of quarantine.

[Lorence.xD]

If our Puppet President still does not take an action regarding this then shit will hit the fan because people are slowly disliking his way of governance. I do not get how people are zealous about this Puppet when all that he did was launch a slaughter of the poor and suspected drug personnel, he is the greatest and vile enabler, with peace that came from the blood of others, I do not have faith that they ever get things done right. We also should make a shout out to the hypocrisy this Puppet does, if his allies commit corruption, he can turn a blind eye in a heartbeat, while the masses are drowning in poverty, he does not care.

[Vishnu.Reang]

In this particular case, it looks like an unintentional mistake from the manufacturers. But at the same time, China has stepped up its territorial aggressiveness recently, resulting in instances such as the recent clashes at Galwan Valley in Ladakh (which resulted in dozens of deaths). Right now the Chinese are on backfoot, as Trump has taken strong action against them. But things can change later this year, after the presidential elections in the United States.

[Mauser]

China is having border conflict with many nations lately. It doesn't come as a surprise to me that China is tryting to influence the Philippines now. As a former puppet state of USA I think this is mainly done to show force against the Western countries. Unfortunately China is the biggest power in Asia at the moment and we all have to accept it. As long as there is no military invasion of any country bordering China, the West will not get involved in any disputes. Just looking at Hong Kond we see that world is not helping the weak anymore. Better to remain friendly with China and accept the hierachy.

[bitsurfer2014]

I never thought that the nine-dash-line policy now included the capital of the Philippines which is a blatant insult and mockery not only to my fellow Filipinos but to all the nations aggrieved by China's absurd demarcation policy.

This is not the only case of several issues coming from them but if you are well aware of the local news, you could see things that seems to disrespect the rights of Filipinos such as Chinese expats doing certain crimes within the country  such as drug distribution and being involved with kidnapping syndicates to kidnap their own,  which clearly shows they aren't afraid to the local authorities in which I think they feel invincible because of current Government's leniency to them.

https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1110334

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/13/tech/philippines-online-casinos-intl-hnk/index.html

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1205254/p800-m-shabu-seized-from-chinese-national-in-quezon-city

[larus]

It could be just one small mistake on factory, i dont think that this really means something important

[plvbob0070]

It's really a big insult in the Philippines to be called a province of China. Good thing for the mayor of Manila that he immediately took an action and closed all establishments who put that kind of address in their products.
here's a link:

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https://twitter.com/ABSCBNNews/status/1296346133556391936?s=19

Although the country is depending on products made in China because it's cheaper and the amount of debt we have, they don't have the right to lowkey own our country. I wonder what's the reaction of the president about this because he always thinks that we are "friends" and is dependent on China.

It could be just one small mistake on factory, i dont think that this really means something important

Who would make a mistake like that?  The Philippines is obviously far from Province P.R. China, so how come it would be a mistake? They have been manufacturing products and yet no one noticed it? I doubt that

[bitsurfer2014]

It could be just one small mistake on factory, i dont think that this really means something important

I don't think so! Its clearly a deliberate action to insult Filipinos and that really matters to us. It's really ridiculous that even a grade-schooler from any other country would know that Manila isn't a province of China.

[abhiseshakana]

The country is being branded as a province of China by a mere beauty product which is probably dirt cheap and below minimum quality standard and has surely not passed all the necessary requirements to be admitted to the domestic market in the Philippines. This beauty product must have originated from an ignorant company back in China.

I would have dismissed this case outright as a nuisance if not with the political, economic, and affairs relating to international relations which are being hotly and divisively debated not just within the country or the region but within the whole world.

If I'm not mistaken, the leaders of the country current and past have been generally friendly with China although the relationship seemed to blossom a lot when the current administration started to treat the USA and the EU more of enemies rather than friends. It strategically positioned China as the apple of the eye of this poor forsaken country. From then on, all hell breaks loose.

We do not lack warnings and evidences and yet we still continue to allow ourselves to be showered with Chinese economic graces which we surely knew to be traps. While I question the capabilities of our leaders, I question more their nationalism and moral courage to steer this impoverished nation.

Dr. Mahathir of Malaysia was able to cancel at least $22.3 billion worth of China-funded projects in his country knowing full well that the acceptance of the same will drown them with Chinese debt they cannot afford to repay. This debt trap is what he calls as "new version of colonialism." Alas, the brave leaders of our country do not have the balls to do just this.

Many politicians and government officials do not have deep knowledge about the resilience of a country and are less careful in comparing potentials with threats. This could be due to exploiting personal interests and sacrificing the interests of groups or officials who do not have knowledge and experience.

China, which was showing its sharp power through the 5.0 colonialization, was actually greeted with warm hugs by many countries in the world, especially those who took financing from China in the OBOR program. What China is doing is copying exactly what America did when it moved its production lines to China in the 1990s. Who would have thought that a country that was originally known for its "imitating country" is now considered a great power and has the value of challenging America, and has even begun to shift America's dominance in trade and financing.

This is inseparable from Xi who is considered the father of innovation and continues to fight against the world. Xi has fired hundreds of thousands of corrupt party members and executed thousands of officials convicted of corruption. China also provides freedom in developing the economy for every Chinese citizen, with no rule. Even in the 1990s when economic reforms were carried out, copying was mandatory. Xi's Principle is against all world rules, and make his own rules boldly.

Forms of business in China tend to be heavy on state capitalism, the private sector is given the freedom to do business at home, but abroad is controlled by state-owned enterprises, which incidentally work for the Chinese communist party. China has a hegemony that is applied during the management of the region based on their economic strength, "economic approach". The countries that all are looking for are the same, namely countries that have raw materials, energy and a large population.