bet4freedom - a profitable future

[2double0]

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Thanks for your advice we are happy with 1xbit but everyone can choose his favourite bookmaker and bet on our predictions.

Does 1xbit provide bet slips? If they do, can you share your live bet slip among us so to let us verify that you have betted on the match you (will) have given us, or not? If 1xbit does not give a betslip, it is my humble request to you to please try with a different casino where betslips are provided!

[LUCKMCFLY]

It would be excellent if you could make your prediction, then you show your account and your bet, all in one capture, and then you show us your results, that way it is the safest way to show that you are telling the truth.

[JohnBitCo]

at 2 p.m. we will post the combination bet here in this post.

2 PM but according to which timezone? 2 PM in Australia and 2 PM in Croatia are two very different things.
Posting some free tips is a good way to show the community that you are serious. That is the only way to gain trust. 

It will be 2pm Berlin Zone | 14:00 German Time

I visited your instagram but I see that you have a very less followers, I thought I will be expecting like tens of thousands of followers
as you will able to profit that amount €50k plus is a huge amount of money already.

May I know if you are also offering free tips to those who cannot afford a VIP pass? And with regards to your statement "1xbit we found that you are not entirely wrong",
are thinking already in switching to a more repuatable platform? because who knows that you will be facing some problem in the future if you keep using 1xbit.

We are just new and are currently building our community that we mainly only bet with Bitcoin we think it is a good idea to advertise on this board. The few followers at the moment are that we have only just started.

Thanks for your advice we are happy with 1xbit but everyone can choose his favourite bookmaker and bet on our predictions.

Kind Regards

bet4freedom

You are just making the things complicated for yourself. You should start by showing us the proofs where you have successfully predicted the match.
Make a post about a match with your predictions, also archive it so you can't alter it later and then post the results at the end of the match. This way everyone can see if your predictions are worth or not.

[GeorgeJohn]

Hello betting friends,

we are bet4freedom and have been profitably active in the betting business for a long time.

Now we have decided to build a community, together we are strong!

In 19 days, we were able to generate tickets worth € 90,000 + of which € 50,000 + net profit.

We have plenty of proofs of our bets on Instagram.
Check it out yourself. If you don't want to miss the train to a profitable future, you can get on now

Instagram: ( @bet4freedom)
https://www.instagram.com/bet4freedom

bet4freedom

The problem is that you did not explain the bet4freedom well, what kind of bet is this?
Does it base on soccer or casino?
The link were people will read and have the pre-knowledge of the bet.
This are thing people have to know,because your post is avenue for advertising the platform's.

[traderethereum]

Actually it isnt really necessary for them to ask out specially if they havent prove out anything.Do you really believe that someone will really be willing to throw out 20 euro for sub fee?

We can see lots of free tipster of this forum and they are trying to prove out themselves first in the community that they are good to follow on and thats the time they do ask out for some fee where this one should really
be considered for new people who do tend to jump or seek out subscribers into this forum.

He didnt even bother to post up some proofs on what he's betting into.

I guess so. I think we don't want to spend 20 euro on the sub fee, but I don't know.
If someone wants to give their tips to this forum, I guess that he can provide free tipsters as beginners, so we can see if they are really good or not.
Later, if they can have many people who use his service and they can get a nice result from his tips, I think he can ask them to pay a subscription or discount to try his paid service, but he needs to give differently than the free tips.
I think people will consider trying his paid service after they see his tips.

[noorman0]

The problem is that you did not explain the bet4freedom well, what kind of bet is this?
Does it base on soccer or casino?
The link were people will read and have the pre-knowledge of the bet.
This are thing people have to know,because your post is avenue for advertising the platform's.

You only need to visit their Instagram and see the story section. Yes, this is a kind of sports match prediction service on the 1xbit site. I don't know whether they charge a rate or take a% of the winnings, that should also be explained here so that you can make sure all members/customers feel fair.

[kryptqnick]

Is Instagram the best place for such a service? Why not make your own website and make timestamped posts which cannot be deleted and cannot be edited (or for which edit/deletion history is necessarily public)? You can make some of these posts public (free tips), and others only accessible by those who paid for subscription and made public after the bet is settled. This way it would be easier for everyone to see your betting history and whether the service is worth it. Instagram and Telegram are not used by everyone, whereas a website is something anyone can have a look at. And given what's been pointed out about 1xbit, why not switch to a more reputable sportsbook such as Sportsbet.io? This would help with your credibility as well. Good luck!

[bitbollo]

going deeper in OP post there are some hints that suggest that something isn't working properly.
I mean if someone is able to earn 50k EUR net profits, it's like he played:
500k EUR *@1.10 odds
or
50K EUR * @2.00 odds 
you can imagine by your self how it's hard achieve this turnover. there are NO PROOFS!

So if some one is able to generate 50K eur in 19 days, grossly he has earned 2600 EUR DAILY!
To achieve the same amount he should sell 136 (!) subscriptions daily in ONE DAY just to earn the same amount of money.

If you are able to earn a good monthly salary, in ONE DAY:
you will waste your time by selling useless subscriptions at 19 bucks ?

As already said there is not bet history, no proofs, nothing! just another newbie that want to demonstrate the ability making incredible claims.

[2double0]

Hello,

With a one time payment you get access to our telegramchat and there we will provide many profitable odds of sportsbetting you can take the games and bet on your favourite bookmaker.

We dont charge anything just the one time payment for our effort building this community.

As you are new, it is not possible for any of us to follow you and pay you immediately without watching your track record here. Be patient and share some betslips with some intervals and if your bets prove to be wins, why will people hesitate buying your premium membership that you are willing to sell? And good luck with your bets today.

[Pmalek]

There was supposed to be a 2 PM free tip today, what happened to it?
Why did you delete some of your posts, like the one where you said that you would post a tip today? I took a look at the modlog and the mods didn't delete any of your posts. That means you did it.

Have you considered showing some proof that you made those bets and a €50.000 profit?

[Haunebu]

There was supposed to be a 2 PM free tip today, what happened to it?
Why did you delete some of your posts, like the one where you said that you would post a tip today? I took a look at the modlog and the mods didn't delete any of your posts. That means you did it.

Have you considered showing some proof that you made those bets and a €50.000 profit?

It's pretty obvious if you think about it. Op is trying to fool people through screenshots etc in order to draw in investors and run like crazy after accumulating a decent chunk of cash. Deleting posts in this manner is usually a clear red flag.

His promise of a profitable future is another dead giveaway. I advise avoiding this scammer completely since he doesn't seem like a legit tipster at all.

[bet4freedom]

There was supposed to be a 2 PM free tip today, what happened to it?
Why did you delete some of your posts, like the one where you said that you would post a tip today? I took a look at the modlog and the mods didn't delete any of your posts. That means you did it.

Have you considered showing some proof that you made those bets and a €50.000 profit?

It's pretty obvious if you think about it. Op is trying to fool people through screenshots etc in order to draw in investors and run like crazy after accumulating a decent chunk of cash. Deleting posts in this manner is usually a clear red flag.

His promise of a profitable future is another dead giveaway. I advise avoiding this scammer completely since he doesn't seem like a legit tipster at all.

There was supposed to be a 2 PM free tip today, what happened to it?
Why did you delete some of your posts, like the one where you said that you would post a tip today? I took a look at the modlog and the mods didn't delete any of your posts. That means you did it.

Have you considered showing some proof that you made those bets and a €50.000 profit?

We will make a seperate prediction thread for the begining of the big leagues.

How you want that i proof you this winnings? If somebody can make teamviwer via mobilephone you can see how we login transactions and all the proofs guys


why everything flag as scam? I try to delete this thread to begin with a free prediction thread because of this it seems weird.

[Pmalek]

How you want that i proof you this winnings? If somebody can make teamviwer via mobilephone you can see how we login transactions and all the proofs guys

How can you be a professional tipster and match analyst working only with a mobile phone? Where is your computer/laptop? You research the matches you bet on from a phone? How does that work?

why everything flag as scam?

Because in 99% of the cases, if it looks like a scam, smells like a scam, and feels like a scam, it usually is!

Another thing. Why is your Instagram profile now on private? It was publicly available yesterday. 

[Ryker1]

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why everything flag as scam?

Well, because we are prone here to scam. As a part of an old member here, there are too many scams I encountered and most of them are newbie. So don't blame them, they are asking proof, and proof shows legitimacy of your service or business. If you are legitimate, you will not hesitate your self to show your proof. However, you can also purchase a ^{[Copper Membership]} for your ann thread, this can allow you to post images which look better in showing proof as an screenshot.

[bet4freedom]

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why everything flag as scam?

Well, because we are prone here to scam. As a part of an old member here, there are too many scams I encountered and most of them are newbie. So don't blame them, they are asking proof, and proof shows legitimacy of your service or business. If you are legitimate, you will not hesitate your self to show your proof. However, you can also purchase a ^{[Copper Membership]} for your ann thread, this can allow you to post images which look better in showing proof as an screenshot.

Proofs are on Instagram a lot.
But if the User Pmalek is ready soon to proof our proofs with teamviewer than you guys will see that we dont play games.

How you want that i proof you this winnings? If somebody can make teamviwer via mobilephone you can see how we login transactions and all the proofs guys

How can you be a professional tipster and match analyst working only with a mobile phone? Where is your computer/laptop? You research the matches you bet on from a phone? How does that work?

why everything flag as scam?

Because in 99% of the cases, if it looks like a scam, smells like a scam, and feels like a scam, it usually is!

Another thing. Why is your Instagram profile now on private? It was publicly available yesterday. 

We will do teamviewer with you  than you can check byself if the proofs are real or not its possible with tablet i make research about.( i will write you a message when we do the setup if you are ready to make it for us)

the Instagramprofil is private for the moment because some people think its funny to buy followers on our Account they have the target to close our Account i think but soon it will be again public.

have patience and we will start with the Preditction Thread soon. stay tuned

[Chikito]

If somebody can make teamviwer via mobilephone you can see how we login transactions and all the proofs guys

You can do itself https://community.teamviewer.com/t5/Knowledge-Base/Connections-From-Mobile-to-Mobile-Devices/ta-p/280 and asking if he receives your request.

But be careful of everyone. Someone has lost Bitcoin because Teamviewer he had was hacked. https://community.teamviewer.com/t5/General-Questions/I-was-hacked-by-teamviewer/td-p/51408

And the point is, can people believe you?, 2 pages I have read, only find 1 word (scam)

[Haunebu]

We will do teamviewer with you  than you can check byself if the proofs are real or not its possible with tablet i make research about.( i will write you a message when we do the setup if you are ready to make it for us)

the Instagramprofil is private for the moment because some people think its funny to buy followers on our Account they have the target to close our Account i think but soon it will be again public.

have patience and we will start with the Preditction Thread soon. stay tuned

At this point, I advise locking this thread since the majority including me believe that you are a scammer no matter what you do which is why I feel it's pointless trying different methods like using TeamViewer etc. Instead, if you really want to prove yourself, start a new thread offering free tips.

Keep offering these free tips over time and win gamblers over with your predictions after which you can start offering paid tips. This is the best path in my opinion.

[bitbollo]

going deeper in OP post there are some hints that suggest that something isn't working properly.
I mean if someone is able to earn 50k EUR net profits, it's like he played:
500k EUR *@1.10 odds
or
50K EUR * @2.00 odds  
you can imagine by your self how it's hard achieve this turnover. there are NO PROOFS!

So if some one is able to generate 50K eur in 19 days, grossly he has earned 2600 EUR DAILY!
To achieve the same amount he should sell 136 (!) subscriptions daily in ONE DAY just to earn the same amount of money.

If you are able to earn a good monthly salary, in ONE DAY:
you will waste your time by selling useless subscriptions at 19 bucks ?

As already said there is not bet history, no proofs, nothing! just another newbie that want to demonstrate the ability making incredible claims.

@bet4freedom
If you are really able to made around 2600 euro DAILY just with betting: why are you interested to get 19 euro from one monthly subscription?
You need to convince around 2600 people to join and then renew monthly their subscription just to get the same amount. It's a non-sense.
If only one-third of people make a question each week, and assuming 5 minutes to read and reply a question, you need around 72 hours weekly for managing these activities!
2 full time jobs! It's pretty clear that you can earn MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE and easily just with your betting ability (if these are true abilities) .

It sound like people that are selling ebooks to "become rich". They are not rich, and maybe they will never get rich. Meanwhile they are just receiving some fresh money in exchange of their "suggestions"

[Pmalek]

Proofs are on Instagram a lot.

There was no proof on your Instagram account whatsoever. Just a few custom images that were all liked by a the same Instagram user. A new account just like yours. Whatever you have added to your profile now we can't know because it's private. There was a video that shows someone allegedly logging into an account and showing a betting history. Whether that is you or not, remains to be seen.

But if the User Pmalek is ready soon to proof our proofs with Teamviewer than you guys will see that we dont play games.

I suggested that you could use Teamviewer as a method to prove that your bets are real, but I never said that I would do it. I don't have positive trust or an extensive trading record that would suggest that the community should listen to my advice or suggestions.

If you are serious about the Teamviewer thing, you can make a request on the Services forum. Mention that you want a trusted member of the community to verify your betting history over Teamviewer or some other way of verification.

[bet4freedom]

We will do teamviewer with you  than you can check byself if the proofs are real or not its possible with tablet i make research about.( i will write you a message when we do the setup if you are ready to make it for us)

the Instagramprofil is private for the moment because some people think its funny to buy followers on our Account they have the target to close our Account i think but soon it will be again public.

have patience and we will start with the Preditction Thread soon. stay tuned

At this point, I advise locking this thread since the majority including me believe that you are a scammer no matter what you do which is why I feel it's pointless trying different methods like using TeamViewer etc. Instead, if you really want to prove yourself, start a new thread offering free tips.

Keep offering these free tips over time and win gamblers over with your predictions after which you can start offering paid tips. This is the best path in my opinion.

Proofs are on Instagram a lot.

There was no proof on your Instagram account whatsoever. Just a few custom images that were all liked by a the same Instagram user. A new account just like yours. Whatever you have added to your profile now we can't know because it's private. There was a video that shows someone allegedly logging into an account and showing a betting history. Whether that is you or not, remains to be seen.

But if the User Pmalek is ready soon to proof our proofs with Teamviewer than you guys will see that we dont play games.

I suggested that you could use Teamviewer as a method to prove that your bets are real, but I never said that I would do it. I don't have positive trust or an extensive trading record that would suggest that the community should listen to my advice or suggestions.

If you are serious about the Teamviewer thing, you can make a request on the Services forum. Mention that you want a trusted member of the community to verify your betting history over Teamviewer or some other way of verification.

If somebody can make teamviwer via mobilephone you can see how we login transactions and all the proofs guys

You can do itself https://community.teamviewer.com/t5/Knowledge-Base/Connections-From-Mobile-to-Mobile-Devices/ta-p/280 and asking if he receives your request.

But be careful of everyone. Someone has lost Bitcoin because Teamviewer he had was hacked. https://community.teamviewer.com/t5/General-Questions/I-was-hacked-by-teamviewer/td-p/51408

And the point is, can people believe you?, 2 pages I have read, only find 1 word (scam)

hello betting friends,

we follow your advice and make a new free prediction thread also in this thread we add a new videoproof of our Account. We dont want to scam anyone you can benefit from our knowledge in betting with a one time payment lifetime!

here is the thread follow it that you dont miss any game in the future:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5271113.new#new

stay tuned!