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August 24, 2020, 07:32:12 AM
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This is a great lesson that the Pandemic has thought the whole earth that sometime the helper might need help.
Helper always need Help mate and that is the Fact,not because they are tend to help others meaning they don't even need assistance as a matter of fact they are the less laid employee and always looking for a chance to grow up.
and now that the pandemic is here?they are the one who has been kicked out of Job and need a mutual support from government and other community.
there are a massive amount of bad people. crypto is filled to the gills with automated crime. Alot of bad humans have to die. The virus and wars will rage. IF you are a bad human stealing from others you too must die
Sorry but this is much brutal,Death is not just like something that we can wish on,because even how bad these people are?they have deserve a second chance.

SOmetimes it is also our mistake why these kind of people taking advantage of us because we are letting them to do that.









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August 24, 2020, 09:35:33 AM
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Since that is capitalism, everyone lives for their individual lives. That's why businesses are like that, the government can't do anything to them. Although a third of the US population is a working citizen of these rich people, I do not feel inequality here. Why do we all want wealth to be distributed evenly when they were people who rose from nothing? They work hard to achieve that achievement and they will certainly take responsibility for their career.
It is very absurd to share assets to balance the society. If that money goes into the hands of the playboy, it is definitely a waste. So let the leaders make America even better.

That's the self-made man fallacy. All these people didn't make themselves from nothing. For starters they have educated parents, some of them wealthy, that means they could all go to good universities. In the US universities are expensive, why ? There is no good reason for this.

I'm not saying they have no merit, and don't deserve to be rich. Nobody is talking about "distributing wealth evenly", that doesn't even make sense. We're talking about more redistribution, in the form of cheap/free healthcare and education, for example.
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August 24, 2020, 10:33:02 AM
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That's life bro and most of the people are just grabbing the opportunity that comes to them that's why they are already rich right now.

Life is so unfair and we need to deal with that because we have nothing to do but to deal with it and work hard as we can so that we can escape from poverty.

Those billionaires are really unfair although some of them already donated from the charities and poor people. Hopefully, people would understand that we should not rely on other people and the government. Being independent is really what we need, so that we can sustain our necessities and prevent losing our homes and wealth. But we have nothing to do to fight poverty during this pandemic as the rate of loss of job increases.
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August 25, 2020, 05:24:30 AM
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That's really how life is, there are some lucky people are even more richer, and many who are poor are even more miserable because of our current situation. We can't do anything because they are already on the top and they already reach the highest level that is impossible to turn them down. I just hope they learn to share the blessings they receive with the poor specially nowadays many are hungry and have lost their livelihood.
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August 25, 2020, 05:35:07 AM
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That's really how life is, there are some lucky people are even more richer, and many who are poor are even more miserable because of our current situation. We can't do anything because they are already on the top and they already reach the highest level that is impossible to turn them down. I just hope they learn to share the blessings they receive with the poor specially nowadays many are hungry and have lost their livelihood.
Luck can be reversed mate and nothing is permanent in this world remember that.

So these richer people are really having good time now but we don't know what will happen in future.

while those people that you called miserable may find luck in their next years who may know?
I once become a desperate person also when i loss my Job in 2016 and has nothing to turn too,but in the next year i find much better job and until now i am enjoying it.

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August 25, 2020, 07:43:20 AM
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This is the sad truth or harsh reality you can say. Every stock market crash brings in new billionaires or millionaires and on the other hand bring worries to the poor. Mukesh Ambani of my country has climbed up to position of 4th richest man from around 10th richest in this Coronavirus time itself. And he might just have donated a few million dollars into the government fund to fight his share of Covid. This is the sad reality these billionaires don't care about thr normal people. India has a lot of people who became rich in 2008 market crash some even made a fortune in local market crashes on 1991. Every crash makes a lot of billionaires.
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August 25, 2020, 08:35:20 AM
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This is the sad truth or harsh reality you can say. Every stock market crash brings in new billionaires or millionaires and on the other hand bring worries to the poor. Mukesh Ambani of my country has climbed up to position of 4th richest man from around 10th richest in this Coronavirus time itself. And he might just have donated a few million dollars into the government fund to fight his share of Covid. This is the sad reality these billionaires don't care about thr normal people. India has a lot of people who became rich in 2008 market crash some even made a fortune in local market crashes on 1991. Every crash makes a lot of billionaires.
I try to wrap around my head with that concept but I do not think that we should be blaming these people when they go up. I know that I sound like an ass saying these but what we lack is oppurtunity and I do not think it is unfair that only few rise to the top, our society encourages competition so they did nothing wrong in my opinion, maybe their abuse to their workers are one thing but that is for another story. The reality might be harsh but we can do something about it, we do not want other people tearing down other people but when it is billionaires, it is justified? Another problem is there are so many who are not content with what they have, maybe it is a good thing but when it becomes an obsession then there is something wrong.

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August 25, 2020, 02:11:11 PM
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Since that is capitalism, everyone lives for their individual lives. That's why businesses are like that, the government can't do anything to them. Although a third of the US population is a working citizen of these rich people, I do not feel inequality here. Why do we all want wealth to be distributed evenly when they were people who rose from nothing? They work hard to achieve that achievement and they will certainly take responsibility for their career.
It is very absurd to share assets to balance the society. If that money goes into the hands of the playboy, it is definitely a waste. So let the leaders make America even better.

That's the self-made man fallacy. All these people didn't make themselves from nothing. For starters they have educated parents, some of them wealthy, that means they could all go to good universities. In the US universities are expensive, why ? There is no good reason for this.

I'm not saying they have no merit, and don't deserve to be rich. Nobody is talking about "distributing wealth evenly", that doesn't even make sense. We're talking about more redistribution, in the form of cheap/free healthcare and education, for example.
Governments are here for helping the rich individuals because they are bringing more revenue to the government and the life of this world is so unfair so if someone wants to become rich then they have to outsmart the existing people which is not really too hard to be honest.Most of the billionaires had the capital to invest money on something and made their company into one of the world's bigger but the system keep the people to not to have much money on their hands to do such things.
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We are living in a world where money manipulates mostly everything. The more money you have, the more impacts you have on the economy as well as politics. You can easily control the money flow on a market without any problem. And in this case, rich people will become richer and poor people can never escape the poverty circle

However, we cant not consider them as a god or some sort of that. We cant pray that one day they will share all of their money to every single man on the Earth. They don't have the responsibility to do that. Its how the world works and how many possibilities that the free market has given to us.

People are being too dependent on money. I don't judge anyone by claiming this sentence. The world is creating people, shaping us with a standard stereotype. And only a few people realize the fact that they are being manipulated since they were a child. And even if they know the truth behind everything, nothing can guarantee that they cant be standardized by their govs. It's about the mindset, our perspective of the world, and our education. Socialism was tested on the CCCP many years ago and it is still a fantasy dream to everyone.

Just live a life you want, don't try to become anyone. Be yourself, follow your dream and you will see that no one can controlled you

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August 26, 2020, 09:10:17 AM
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This is why there should be going up taxes, the companies should be a part of it as well. If you have over certain amount of profit, you should be paying insane amount of taxes, you should be paying most of it back, FDR had as much as 90% and he really wanted to do 100% over a billion but couldn't.

So, I would say that if a company makes over a billion dollars in profit, I would say tax them over 70% new tax for every dollar they make over a billion dollars, keep all the taxes they are already paying, but a new tax for anything over a billion dollars, that could go towards helping people who are working but not making enough money. Or simply just get their whole revenue and tax that, facebook has Ireland as their main place of taxing because it is so low, I would say check their worldwide revenue and tax according to that.

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August 26, 2020, 10:32:29 AM
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Thank you all for participating in the discussion. Of course, we do not all have the same opinions, which is completely normal, but I believe that every normal person sees the disproportion of the distribution of wealth and that 90% of the world's population suffers direct consequences because of it. Politicians and global corporations perceive people as a necessary evil and work to make them dependent on systems over which they have complete control. That will be hard to change, because humans have become a bit like robots doing what they are programmed to do.

However, for a start we have Bitcoin which allows us to be somewhat financially independent not only in transactions, but also to protect our values. It’s a good starting point to start changing the world, from choosing honest politicians to saying no to companies that exploit people and promote modern slavery around the world.

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