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August 26, 2020, 09:58:12 AM
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I was fully prepared to bash Lucius when I went through the thread. In fact, that was my original intention: to present a devil's advocate in the presence of many consenting opinions.
There is nothing more to say about how Lucius handled the situation. It was the exact pace that I would have considered from someone that 'aims to curb spam' and it was the minimal number of posts required to stop the conversation.

I was almost certain that I wouldn't do well if you appeared in this thread - but I'm glad you decided to be objective and read the thread from which you made a completely logical analysis of what actually happened.



Perfect. Why this thread then?

Don't I have the right to open a thread once or twice in 5 years in this part of the forum? If someone in this case indirectly says that my posts are just filling in the signature quota it means nothing more than that I am a signature spammer - but as some others have noticed I have only responded to his false statements, so now I have become a spammer, and a liar who make fake claims.

But now that we're here, shall we address the irony of Lucius abusing the trust system by negging deisik for being a signature spammer? And now flipping out about someone implying he's a sig spammer himself? Kids these days.

I was wondering when you would pull this case out, and it's entirely justified that this feedback should have been neutral - but I still refuse to change it even though they kicked me out of DT for it and none of the DT members will give me positive feedback because I am trust abuser. But how many such trust abuse is given by DT members in past and even today, and I do not see anyone kicked out from DT for doing that...

In fact, I'm glad I found out what some members think of me, and that you completely agree with dkbit98 that I am posting in this forum only to fill my signature quota+that I am making fake claims+that I am just a kid.


I think you have already heard enough opinions on this topic and I suggest you lock this topic because everything has already been said and the future discussion will not bring anything new or bring something positive.

As I already wrote, I did not expect any support from the local board, and the fact that I was proposed as a moderator at one point means nothing - I left the local board because I received the same messages as in this case - posting just for fill my daily quota. Everyone just wants me to lock the thread, has freedom of expression got to the point that a few posts will destroy the forum?



Can I persuade you into changing this local rule? It looks better on you to allow the accused to defend themselves.

I know that it is not ethical to forbid someone to defend themselves, but it is also more than clear what both users meant in their statements - I honestly do not want to communicate with such people at all now or in the future.



Coolcryptovator, Stedsm , LTU_btc, The Pharmacist thanks for your posts.



I would like to hear the opinions of a few more people who normally appear in such threads - and then I will fulfill everyone's wish and lock the thread.

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August 26, 2020, 10:17:35 AM
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Rikafip, I did not expect that you or any other member from Croatian local board will come here and support me against dkbit98 in any way, but I think I have the right, like any other member, to open a thread about anything - even if it seemed completely irrelevant to you.
Of course you have the right to open a thread about anything that bothers you, and maybe that couldn't be understood from my previous post so let me be more clear this time: it is so obvious that you are constructive and quality poster that answer to question "Am I a signature spammer?" feels too redundant to even write, when everything is perfectly clear. You are part of this forum and  ChipMixer campaign for too long to need pat on the back/reassurance over such an insignificant remark. @Stedsm explained it nicely with his little story about dogs and cheetah. And that's why I thought that this topic wasn't really needed, but to each his own.
 

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August 26, 2020, 11:11:07 AM
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Don't I have the right to open a thread once or twice in 5 years in this part of the forum? If someone in this case indirectly says that my posts are just filling in the signature quota it means nothing more than that I am a signature spammer - but as some others have noticed I have only responded to his false statements, so now I have become a spammer, and a liar who make fake claims.

I was responding to actmyname's comment on how you handled the situation in the other thread.

I was wondering when you would pull this case out, and it's entirely justified that this feedback should have been neutral - but I still refuse to change it even though they kicked me out of DT for it and none of the DT members will give me positive feedback because I am trust abuser. But how many such trust abuse is given by DT members in past and even today, and I do not see anyone kicked out from DT for doing that...

That's some seriously flawed logic. Two wrongs don't make it right.

In fact, I'm glad I found out what some members think of me, and that you completely agree with dkbit98 that I am posting in this forum only to fill my signature quota+that I am making fake claims+that I am just a kid.

There is a huge difference between saying that you should let it go and completely agreeing with your opponent. You need to allow the possibility that more than one side in a dispute might be acting irrationally.

I know that it is not ethical to forbid someone to defend themselves, but it is also more than clear what both users meant in their statements - I honestly do not want to communicate with such people at all now or in the future.

That's what ignore is for. But if you open a thread complaining about someone and don't want to allow the other side to state their case - that's quite pointless.
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As I already wrote, I did not expect any support from the local board, and the fact that I was proposed as a moderator at one point means nothing - I left the local board because I received the same messages as in this case - posting just for fill my daily quota. Everyone just wants me to lock the thread, has freedom of expression got to the point that a few posts will

I'm sorry to hear that our proposal that you become a moderator in Croatian local board means nothing to you.
I supported that proposal, as well as some other Croatian members because we respect you as a older and distinguished member of this forum.
Also,  we didn't forget your great support in the unban request for Croatian member Regulushr.
I'm grateful for your support for Regulushr.
Your shared your honest opinion there and really helped our case.
I'm sorry if you had problem later because of it.
I don't know what kind of messages you received in the Croatian local board but I don't think it's good to generalize and put everyone in the same basket.
I suggest you that any unresolved issue you solve with the people concerned.
I just shared my opinion but you don't have to be upset with my suggestion to lock the thread.
If you have more to share please do it.
I'm not interesting in anything else here .
Also,  I really don't think that many Croatian members are interesting in this issue but it doesn't mean they have something against you if they don't write here.

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August 26, 2020, 01:50:45 PM
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Also,  we didn't forget your great support in the unban request for Croatian member Regulushr.
I'm grateful for your support for Regulushr.
Your shared your honest opinion there and really helped our case.
I'm sorry if you had problem later because of it.
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Also,  I really don't think that many Croatian members are interesting in this issue but it doesn't mean they have something against you if they don't write here.


So I see how a nice thread is opened in the Croatian board about me, in which the person in question for some reason known only to him calls me with a female name and Lucifer, and his old buddy btcltcdigger who earn 1 BTC every month (and in same time shitposting for 1000 sat per post ) calls me retarded. It’s really a wonderful community, where some members obviously have vocabulary that’s hard to find anywhere on the forum. I wish you good fun, because I see that the little genius and the team are having a really good time at my expense.

If anyone is interested -> Lažov Lucija

What else can I say but that I'm sorry that I ever got in touch with people like dkbit98 and the like - everything he did after I opened this thread shows what kind of character he is.

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August 26, 2020, 02:17:13 PM
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So I see how a nice thread is opened in the Croatian board about me, in which the person in question for some reason known only to him calls me with a female name

We got one more here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5271472.0

everything he did after I opened this thread shows what kind of character he is.

True indeed.
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Going straight to reply button, he didn't call you spammer, he said that "you filled your signature quota".
Interestingly, the person in question shares an identical opinion with his colleague from the local board
Are you suggesting that 2 users are not allowed to have similar opinion  Huh
In your opinion, is Lucius a person who only meets his signature quota, which would mean that he is a signature spammer, or are user comments like dkbit98 completely unfounded and inappropriate?
What if I tell you that I think that you start posting in Croatian Local board just because DarkStar_ announced that CM is paying posts in local boards? You have never posted a single word in our local before that and TBH I can agree with dkbit98 on "filling quota" but I don't think you are sig spammer. You can fill quota with constructive posts as well.

Lock this topic and stop embarrassing yourself.
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August 26, 2020, 03:55:16 PM
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Lock this topic and stop embarrassing yourself.

Another one from the Croatian board that demands the same, but I didn't expect anything different from you. The only shame is that you are all defending a person who is at the level of a 15 year old child and with his actions he shames only himself.

Your insinuations are hilarious to say the least, did I ever need a local board to fulfill something as banal as some number of posts? All my posts or even most in Croatian board were over 50 max anyway, which would mean they were free/unpaid.

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August 26, 2020, 05:07:17 PM
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You asked for opinion, I gave you one, it is not my problem that you don't like to hear different opinions, but as you wish:
Your insinuations are hilarious to say the least, did I ever need a local board to fulfill something as banal as some number of posts? All my posts or even most in Croatian board were over 50 max anyway, which would mean they were free/unpaid.
On February 10., you created topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224688.0 and you literally announced that you have never posted in Croatian local and, you made 4 posts (I don't know how many posts you removed). That was week #143 (spreadsheet), payout written in spreadsheet is the same as here https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/1c992d77c3d1539f42d6330f3782029a93f7e82fad9a200a1372083a03cc1838 and posted here. It says:
"total counted posts: 49, not counted: 2".


Thanks for wasting my time with your last post.
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Also,  we didn't forget your great support in the unban request for Croatian member Regulushr.
I'm grateful for your support for Regulushr.
Your shared your honest opinion there and really helped our case.
I'm sorry if you had problem later because of it.
~snip~
Also,  I really don't think that many Croatian members are interesting in this issue but it doesn't mean they have something against you if they don't write here.


So I see how a nice thread is opened in the Croatian board about me, in which the person in question for some reason known only to him calls me with a female name and Lucifer, and his old buddy btcltcdigger who earn 1 BTC every month (and in same time shitposting for 1000 sat per post ) calls me retarded. It’s really a wonderful community, where some members obviously have vocabulary that’s hard to find anywhere on the forum. I wish you good fun, because I see that the little genius and the team are having a really good time at my expense.

If anyone is interested -> Lažov Lucija

What else can I say but that I'm sorry that I ever got in touch with people like dkbit98 and the like - everything he did after I opened this thread shows what kind of character he is.


As far as I can see, you only mention 2 members of the Croatian forum here, but you give yourself the right to attack all about 40 members of the Croatian section of this forum.
The fact that there are always conflicts and serious quarrels in every community is not something new and unknown, but it's unusual that because of the opinion of one or two members in a particular community to publicly attack all members of that community or group.
Do you really think that this little conflict you have with dkbit98 is so important for the members of the Croatian community that everyone should run here and express their opinion?
Trust me there are much more important things in everyone’s life  Grin
I got involved in this discussion not because of this little conflict you two have,and I really can’t be less worried about it, but to protect the dignity of the Croatian members of this forum that you have unreasonably attacked.
I regularly follow the Croatian part of the forum and I don't remember anyone ever attacking you there or saying anything bad to you.
If that happened anyway, then you should have started a new topic here in reputation.
In the meantime, please stop generalizing and putting all people in the same basket, because that’s not right.
I will always be grateful to you for all the positive things you have done for our Croatian community, especially for your support for the unban of our member Regulushr.
Your posts on that topic in Meta really helped and I'm really sorry that you deleted them all.
I hope you didn't have any problems because of your views that you expressed there?
That was the main reason why I trusted you and proposed you as a moderator in the Croatian section of the forum.
However, the unargued attack of the whole community is really wrong and I hope that you will see it for yourself, apologize and correct it.
As for the conflict between you and dkbit98, it's solely a matter of you two and I'm not interested in that story at all.
But I will always be interested in defending myself and others from unfounded attacks and generalizations.

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Question I want to ask the members of this forum: In your opinion, is Lucius a person who only meets his signature quota, which would mean that he is a signature spammer, or are user comments like dkbit98 completely unfounded and inappropriate?

No, you are not a signature spammer! I have constantly benefited from the posts you made in the past. Here are some in threads I also posted in, or threads I intended to post in but succumbed to forgetfulness. I regularly post in Economics, Speculation and Wallets so that's mainly where I find your posts.

If someone wants maximum security when using mobile crypto wallets, in my opinion one of the safest options is that such wallets are used in combination with hardware wallets. Of course, this requires an additional cost in the form of buying an extra device - but it actually gives us a lot of security because private keys and all important operations take place outside the mobile device.

Although if the tips given by other members are applied, the mobile device can be a fairly secure way to store crypto - emphasizing that it shouldn't be large amounts, because despite all the security measures it really doesn't make sense for me to have thousands of dollars worth of BTC on mobile device.

I wasn't referring to you personally; rather I was just speaking in generalities.

I assumed you were referring to something from my post because you quote me, no problem Wink

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It is true that most do not care about privacy at all, as if they have consciously sacrificed it for the modern way of life - it is unbelievable that the growing invasion on privacy passes almost without any resistance. Good information for DEX, if this is accurate data then it is really an indication that users are increasingly turning to decentralized crypto exchanges which should mean that things are changing for the better.

In the event that a significant portion of the crypto market switches to DEX, do you think the authorities have an effective way to combat it in the sense that they require these services to take some action against their users? Specifically, if funds from terrorist organizations were transferred via DEX and also mixed via coinmixers, would that be something that would mean complete anonymity?

How hard can it be to detect that you computer is under full load even when idle or just doing some non-intensive tasks? Your fans will get louder, you might notice some heat, your performance will slow down.

Some simply ignore the noise level produced by the computer thinking it is normal, but the creators of crypto mining malware also adapt in such a way that they do not use the maximum power of the CPU, which then does not result in a significant slowdown or increase in noise.



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Either way, it's nice to see crypto have a resurgence in the past months as an alternative to traditional finance and business. My dad, a blue-collar worker that will rely on his retirement is FINALLY reaching back out to explore investment opportunities in Bitcoin...

What are you hoping to get out of this 'Great Reset?' Are you adapting? Because at this point, whether the industry, it is evolving to something similar to The Hunger Games or even the survival of the fittest.

All indicators show that we are sure to face one of the biggest recessions in the last 100 years, and the virus has only accelerated it and will make it even bigger than it should have been. All of this is really just a part of what rolled back in 2008, and the intelligent ones have long since begun to prepare for everything that has followed and for what is yet to come. However, I do not think that an apocalyptic scenario awaits us, the world is already adapting to new circumstances - and it will certainly be difficult, but people are very resourceful in the most difficult moments.

I do not see how cryptocurrencies would be a global solution to the problem, if we take into account that according to all research, less than 1% of the world's population invest or trade crypto. Not to mention that more than 40% of people in the world do not have internet access at all.

I hope your father knows what risks he faces if he wants to invest in BTC, it's not some magical way money can be multiplied just like that without doing anything.

But, hey, considering BTC price bottoms, you had seen that PlanB tweet from yesterday about the 200Weekly Moving average? Dude posted it, below.


>>>>>ICYMI: #bitcoin  is nicely moving away from 200 week moving average. 200WMA is currently $6400, is increasing $200 per month, and has never decreased. Best of all, BTC monthly close has never been below 200WMA.<<<<

https://twitter.com/100trillionusd/status/1296005407983403008?s=21

Can't we have some assurance that the bottom is in (or at least the bottom keeps moving up)?  So, in other words, maybe we can feel a certain level of confidence that BTC prices are not going below $6,400... so even $3k or sub $200 is even more out of the question - into the rearview mirror... and with the passage of time, we can start to feel even more confidence regarding even higher and higher bottom BTC prices... because the bottom keeps moving up with the 200 week moving average, no?

Here's the chart from that PlanB tweet:

[img ]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfxUqI4WkAE5dgp?format=png&name=small[/img]

The bottom is something that is very slippery terrain for BTC, I think it would be pretty frivolous to say that we will never go below $6400 again, because just a few months ago this is exactly what happened. Of course, the x factor should always be taken into account - and in the last case it was the declaration of a pandemic that shook the entire world market - and we know that in the case of anything like that, the price easily goes down and more than 50%.

I would still take the price of $4000 as something that BTC can go backwards, but only if something very negative happens (say a big hack of Coinbase or Binance). Yet what interests me more at the moment is the percentage of correction after the next big bull run, because if we were to reach say $100k, is it realistic to expect us to fall to $20k? The past has shown that this is possible, will it be the same this time?



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August 27, 2020, 08:20:50 AM
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I would like to hear the opinions of a few more people who normally appear in such threads - and then I will fulfill everyone's wish and lock the thread.

I do not normally appear in such threads - there's just too much drama for my taste and I really don't waste my time on it. Since it's from our Local - I'll give my opinion anyway.

Nobody thinks you are a signature spammer. It would be good if you stopped using it as any argument. We Croatians are snippy, fast on the tongue and use satirical comments often - you must be aware of that. Even if he wrote something like it - you should know what stands behind it and you should not be offended by it.

Blocking them from posting here is a move I disapprove, that's why now there are multiple threads - and it's just adding to the childishness from both of you. You are both good posters and things like these are unnecessary.

I'd like to see you back in Local, but you probably won't like it if you don't act like one of us. Being a drama queen over petty things isn't in our blood, we are offensive and loud. But we are also not mean, disrespectful and dishonest.

Just my 2 cents, now waiting for the drama to pass.

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@Lucius, A little advice, for both of you, many ways to solve problems, whether big or small, Telegram, PM, etc.

No need to exaggerate something that no one else knows, this is just "misunderstanding" you with @dkbit98.

I often read the history of Croats, they are all friendly and kind, your country is the richest country and all Croats are highly educated, none of you are not attending free and 'mandatory' school for all of you, you live in the best country in the world right now, full of professors and scientists, this debate only tarnishes the good name of the Croatian people, you live full of peace and prosperity, resolve this problem peacefully and in harmony.

If you feel bored or emotional, try to take a vacation to the island 'Hvar' or 'Zlatni Rat' beach maybe there you can relax and relax a little.

End this problem, local forum members in Croatia still need you, to discuss Bitcoin and related matters with the Bitcointalk Forum.
Try to follow the trail: (Rudjer Boskovic) who can save the ruins.

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