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March 23, 2014, 04:31:25 AM Last edit: March 24, 2014, 06:24:08 AM by BitEscrow |
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Any good wallets from people for sale? Like a trezor?
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March 23, 2014, 05:02:56 AM |
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/ I'd like some input on this.
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March 23, 2014, 05:18:01 AM |
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if you want peoples bitcoins then: 1. dont be a bank charging them a fee 2. dont hide, if you want to be trusted, give your full real name. real twitter, fb and linkedin...not a frozenbit twitter which is meaningless 3. the best security is paper wallet, not third party storage. have you learnt nothing 4. wow an image of a banner and another image of a background.. that is soooo impressive.. not! 5. get the site running on testnet. for atleast 2 weeks, get people to use your service using testnet coins so they can decide if its worth putting real coins into 6. if you cant manage your own real life investments to be able to afford to make a wallet. then that is a big neon red light saying your not to be trusted.
your website concept is nothing more then a list of public keys and an emailer to send authorizations and a guy that sits at his computer when he is not sleeping to then send funds as he receives these emails.. not worth more than $15 (now i refer you back to point 6 again)
the only time i need a wallet is to do transactions. for those smart enough to be using paper wallets, for their own cold store and a simple client to do the quick transactions you which you cannot offer. i find your service useless.
you are trying to be a bank.. used for storage. i hope people learn not to trust third parties that do not offer private keys and separate you from your coins unless they personally authorise it.
remember gox "you cant have your coins unless you prove who you are"
but this time no one knows his real name or address..
learn people third party services are for short term and fast transaction. if you want a bank, go back to fiat.
sorry for being blunt, but i dont hug babies and let them do as they like, i teach them to grow up and do whats right
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I DO NOT TRADE OR ACT AS ESCROW ON THIS FORUM EVER. Please do your own research & respect what is written here as both opinion & information gleaned from experience. many people replying with insults but no on-topic content substance, automatically are 'facepalmed' and yawned at
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March 23, 2014, 05:32:23 AM |
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if you want peoples bitcoins then: 1. dont be a bank charging them a fee 2. dont hide, if you want to be trusted, give your full real name. real twitter, fb and linkedin...not a frozenbit twitter which is meaningless 3. the best security is paper wallet, not third party storage. have you learnt nothing 4. wow an image of a banner and another image of a background.. that is soooo impressive.. not! 5. get the site running on testnet. for atleast 2 weeks, get people to use your service using testnet coins so they can decide if its worth putting real coins into 6. if you cant manage your own real life investments to be able to afford to make a wallet. then that is a big neon red light saying your not to be trusted.
your website concept is nothing more then a list of public keys and an emailer to send authorizations and a guy that sits at his computer when he is not sleeping to then send funds as he receives these emails.. not worth more than $15 (now i refer you back to point 6 again)
the only time i need a wallet is to do transactions. for those smart enough to be using paper wallets, for their own cold store and a simple client to do the quick transactions you which you cannot offer. i find your service useless.
you are trying to be a bank.. used for storage. i hope people learn not to trust third parties that do not offer private keys and separate you from your coins unless they personally authorise it.
remember gox "you cant have your coins unless you prove who you are"
but this time no one knows his real name or address..
learn people third party services are for short term and fast transaction. if you want a bank, go back to fiat.
sorry for being blunt, but i dont hug babies and let them do as they like, i teach them to grow up and do whats right
I see your concern is trust, from mostly scams ridden like the plague ripping coins from you. Luckily, we have MINIMAL human intervention. Luckily with the developed site, we've been able to make the site feel as if everything is client side, with less security risks. Heres how: 1.) Having Imported addresses, generated offline. 2.) 2FA 3.) Phone confirmation 4.) 24/7 support 5.) Algorithmic Transaction fees, Your coins should verify instantly. 6.) Balance change and price alerts. And your resilience to allow new competitors and proprietary systems to be established is against all bitcoin stands for: The Free Market, It allows for scammers but on the flip side it allows for security. It's the beauty of both.
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March 23, 2014, 06:24:45 AM |
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if you want peoples bitcoins then: 1. dont be a bank charging them a fee 2. dont hide, if you want to be trusted, give your full real name. real twitter, fb and linkedin...not a frozenbit twitter which is meaningless 3. the best security is paper wallet, not third party storage. have you learnt nothing 4. wow an image of a banner and another image of a background.. that is soooo impressive.. not! 5. get the site running on testnet. for atleast 2 weeks, get people to use your service using testnet coins so they can decide if its worth putting real coins into 6. if you cant manage your own real life investments to be able to afford to make a wallet. then that is a big neon red light saying your not to be trusted.
your website concept is nothing more then a list of public keys and an emailer to send authorizations and a guy that sits at his computer when he is not sleeping to then send funds as he receives these emails.. not worth more than $15 (now i refer you back to point 6 again)
the only time i need a wallet is to do transactions. for those smart enough to be using paper wallets, for their own cold store and a simple client to do the quick transactions you which you cannot offer. i find your service useless.
you are trying to be a bank.. used for storage. i hope people learn not to trust third parties that do not offer private keys and separate you from your coins unless they personally authorise it.
remember gox "you cant have your coins unless you prove who you are"
but this time no one knows his real name or address..
learn people third party services are for short term and fast transaction. if you want a bank, go back to fiat.
sorry for being blunt, but i dont hug babies and let them do as they like, i teach them to grow up and do whats right
I see your concern is trust, from mostly scams ridden like the plague ripping coins from you. Luckily, we have MINIMAL human intervention. Luckily with the developed site, we've been able to make the site feel as if everything is client side, with less security risks. Heres how: 1.) Having Imported addresses, generated offline. 2.) 2FA 3.) Phone confirmation 4.) 24/7 support 5.) Algorithmic Transaction fees, Your coins should verify instantly. 6.) Balance change and price alerts. And your resilience to allow new competitors and proprietary systems to be established is against all bitcoin stands for: The Free Market, It allows for scammers but on the flip side it allows for security. It's the beauty of both. LOL what a failed idea. Go back to 2011 and pitch this, you might gain some customers. We have escrow built in the blockchain, why would i need to have your list of BS that you called "security" features? Btw, Who the fck are you? Give the community complete info about yourself, and let the public run a check on you.
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March 23, 2014, 07:13:44 AM |
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3. the best security is paper wallet, not third party storage. have you learnt nothing Actually, a brain wallet with a properly selected passphrase is superior to a paper wallet in just about every conceivable way.
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March 23, 2014, 08:17:21 AM |
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if you want peoples bitcoins then: 1. dont be a bank charging them a fee 2. dont hide, if you want to be trusted, give your full real name. real twitter, fb and linkedin...not a frozenbit twitter which is meaningless 3. the best security is paper wallet, not third party storage. have you learnt nothing 4. wow an image of a banner and another image of a background.. that is soooo impressive.. not! 5. get the site running on testnet. for atleast 2 weeks, get people to use your service using testnet coins so they can decide if its worth putting real coins into 6. if you cant manage your own real life investments to be able to afford to make a wallet. then that is a big neon red light saying your not to be trusted.
your website concept is nothing more then a list of public keys and an emailer to send authorizations and a guy that sits at his computer when he is not sleeping to then send funds as he receives these emails.. not worth more than $15 (now i refer you back to point 6 again)
the only time i need a wallet is to do transactions. for those smart enough to be using paper wallets, for their own cold store and a simple client to do the quick transactions you which you cannot offer. i find your service useless.
you are trying to be a bank.. used for storage. i hope people learn not to trust third parties that do not offer private keys and separate you from your coins unless they personally authorise it.
remember gox "you cant have your coins unless you prove who you are"
but this time no one knows his real name or address..
learn people third party services are for short term and fast transaction. if you want a bank, go back to fiat.
sorry for being blunt, but i dont hug babies and let them do as they like, i teach them to grow up and do whats right
I see your concern is trust, from mostly scams ridden like the plague ripping coins from you. Luckily, we have MINIMAL human intervention. Luckily with the developed site, we've been able to make the site feel as if everything is client side, with less security risks. Heres how: 1.) Having Imported addresses, generated offline. 2.) 2FA 3.) Phone confirmation 4.) 24/7 support 5.) Algorithmic Transaction fees, Your coins should verify instantly. 6.) Balance change and price alerts. And your resilience to allow new competitors and proprietary systems to be established is against all bitcoin stands for: The Free Market, It allows for scammers but on the flip side it allows for security. It's the beauty of both. LOL what a failed idea. Go back to 2011 and pitch this, you might gain some customers. We have escrow built in the blockchain, why would i need to have your list of BS that you called "security" features? Btw, Who the fck are you? Give the community complete info about yourself, and let the public run a check on you. So uhm.. I don't think we should take this attitude with a BRAND NEW service. It seems very hostile to me and doesn't inspire confidence in creating something if you're a developer reading this (I'm not but I would imagine this guy is feeling kinda bad if he has spent the last few weeks if not months, in addition to what is likely his personal money developing this thing). No one is asking you to deposit hundreds of coins but every new service should get a fair and neutral review. In addition, I disagree with doxxing developers. For the gambling section, good luck finding owners, and if I was one of them, I wouldn't want to be found either. We still have a hazy regulatory climate (not to mention conflicting international laws) and a pseudo-anonymous currency, let's let him build rep over time. I agree with what was said so far though. 1. Thanks for providing your skype/contact info, I'll PM you if I want to talk - check. 2. You still need a website; I don't really get why I would use/switch to using something like this, though I see the potential with what you are presenting. 3. Realize that blockchain.info could easily integrate this into what they have it seems, so be careful and grow fast. I wish you luck, and here's to hoping to see a live webpage up soon! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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March 23, 2014, 04:45:44 PM |
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if you want peoples bitcoins then: 1. dont be a bank charging them a fee 2. dont hide, if you want to be trusted, give your full real name. real twitter, fb and linkedin...not a frozenbit twitter which is meaningless 3. the best security is paper wallet, not third party storage. have you learnt nothing 4. wow an image of a banner and another image of a background.. that is soooo impressive.. not! 5. get the site running on testnet. for atleast 2 weeks, get people to use your service using testnet coins so they can decide if its worth putting real coins into 6. if you cant manage your own real life investments to be able to afford to make a wallet. then that is a big neon red light saying your not to be trusted.
your website concept is nothing more then a list of public keys and an emailer to send authorizations and a guy that sits at his computer when he is not sleeping to then send funds as he receives these emails.. not worth more than $15 (now i refer you back to point 6 again)
the only time i need a wallet is to do transactions. for those smart enough to be using paper wallets, for their own cold store and a simple client to do the quick transactions you which you cannot offer. i find your service useless.
you are trying to be a bank.. used for storage. i hope people learn not to trust third parties that do not offer private keys and separate you from your coins unless they personally authorise it.
remember gox "you cant have your coins unless you prove who you are"
but this time no one knows his real name or address..
learn people third party services are for short term and fast transaction. if you want a bank, go back to fiat.
sorry for being blunt, but i dont hug babies and let them do as they like, i teach them to grow up and do whats right
I see your concern is trust, from mostly scams ridden like the plague ripping coins from you. Luckily, we have MINIMAL human intervention. Luckily with the developed site, we've been able to make the site feel as if everything is client side, with less security risks. Heres how: 1.) Having Imported addresses, generated offline. 2.) 2FA 3.) Phone confirmation 4.) 24/7 support 5.) Algorithmic Transaction fees, Your coins should verify instantly. 6.) Balance change and price alerts. And your resilience to allow new competitors and proprietary systems to be established is against all bitcoin stands for: The Free Market, It allows for scammers but on the flip side it allows for security. It's the beauty of both. LOL what a failed idea. Go back to 2011 and pitch this, you might gain some customers. We have escrow built in the blockchain, why would i need to have your list of BS that you called "security" features? Btw, Who the fck are you? Give the community complete info about yourself, and let the public run a check on you. So uhm.. I don't think we should take this attitude with a BRAND NEW service. It seems very hostile to me and doesn't inspire confidence in creating something if you're a developer reading this (I'm not but I would imagine this guy is feeling kinda bad if he has spent the last few weeks if not months, in addition to what is likely his personal money developing this thing). No one is asking you to deposit hundreds of coins but every new service should get a fair and neutral review. In addition, I disagree with doxxing developers. For the gambling section, good luck finding owners, and if I was one of them, I wouldn't want to be found either. We still have a hazy regulatory climate (not to mention conflicting international laws) and a pseudo-anonymous currency, let's let him build rep over time. I agree with what was said so far though. 1. Thanks for providing your skype/contact info, I'll PM you if I want to talk - check. 2. You still need a website; I don't really get why I would use/switch to using something like this, though I see the potential with what you are presenting. 3. Realize that blockchain.info could easily integrate this into what they have it seems, so be careful and grow fast. I wish you luck, and here's to hoping to see a live webpage up soon! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Thanks for this, were working around the clock to get this up and running. We are setting up a VPS to download the blockchain right now, so we can have alerts when transactions clear and you can be alerted via text.
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Bad idea. ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) HF: Simple. Post something nice on that bitcoin talk thread, Pm your name on btc and paypal address., I'll send you 10c, you can do it as many times as you like as long as the post looks good, and the accounts aren't all 0 activity. Larger activity accounts posting can earn .50c a post. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=527100mirror: http://imgur.com/oFUwxyEFrom his other thread about this service. He also reported the post wanting it removed as personal information.
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March 24, 2014, 06:17:25 AM |
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Quoting this before he edits it like he did his other post. We have a crowd fund listed here: https://bitcoinstarter.com/projects/653, Our wallet is here: 1B9hDLPrEc8ebiAEu7BQhCj3enNpqSaxPs You can help us out by donating bitcoins, we would appreciate the financial help. Logo: https://i.imgur.com/tqdkCQP.png![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtqdkCQP.png&t=665&c=WNrrGWg8PqSuMw) Homepage As on 3/16/14 : http://prntscr.com/335tuq (It's been grammatically corrected as of then) Frozen bit: A new take on cold storage. Your coins are stored offline independently from others, meaning your coins are always secure.
Link to Our Site: FrozenBit.io Ever since I first reading about bitcoin in 2011 I've been obsessed with the possibilities of this. Just how much things can change, how much this would be for the better. Until recently. Well, hello everyone. Over the last month after the gox (scam) hack, me and a team of developers have been masterfully crafting a solution to what happened at gox. We feel we've adequately found a solution. We've found a way to securely store coins OFFLINE without human error or intervention in the process getting in the way or compromising security. We've done it in a way that the private keys are neither stored client side or in the database, but offline in a separate server that their located in. (Protected by a PGP key) Now you're probably thinking this is too good to be true? Well, I can tell you we've crafted the work around for this and found a way to mix security with accessibility. So lets review what the team of this wonderful bitcoin project has done. Use this to form your own conclusion on whether or not this is the most secure bitcoin wallet in the world. Our main feature is, We've made it so EVERY USER GETS THEIR OWN COLD ADDRESS! Our site will feature the following features:1.) Instant Txt message alerts for every transactions. 2.) 2FA Authentication 3.) Individual Wallets 4.) In depth coin management 5.) 24/7 support 6.) Algorithmically calculated fees. Now their is a downfall for not hosting stuff online. What we gain in security is changed for a lapse. The lapse is someone from our team has to manually "push" a withdrawal request. These requests will require you to verify by a pin sent to your phone that you did in fact do this withdrawal. Luckily someone is standing by to process this withdrawal. Now guys, I know, let me repeat: I know, you don't believe me. That this isn't real, that it's a scam for bitcoins. I have no validation on your forum and I'm not going to insult your keen sense of ass hattery. This really is a service we are starting. Right now, we have back end developed, a VPS secured for blockchain confirmations, paying someone for graphics and an HTML coder. Those are all expenses coming right out of my pocket. I'm asking you to lend some assistance, I have listed some things down below I can offer. Costs add up quickly and I fear we may run out of funds, halting the project. If you don't feel comfortable donating or need something resolved PM me, I can talk via skype. I'm sure you have questions, post them here or request my skype on the forum below. I have more photos of the site being developed if you wish to see them. Contact me : Email: Zapados@outlook.comXMPP: Vendetta@jabber.atskype: Ask me, I use this to tak to devs. and wouldn't want to be spammed. Phone: Ask me, If this is what this takes to prove this is legit we can do that. It's a real number and not google talk either. Twitter: https://twitter.com/FrozenBitIO Lets not forget the site is: FrozenBit.io It is live, but nothing it done for it yet! Ex. No homepage. FAQ Question: Why should we trust a third party like yours to hold our coins? Answer: Now to address why, but first lets put this into perspective. Most people already use webwallets, your trusting those to hold your coins and their completely unsafe. Now for our response, It's not just the security we offer. It's also In the form of tools to manage coins, charting, planning and support we offer clients. You are a knowledgeable bitcoin user, you know the risk and take steps to stop that. Some people do things their own way which could put them at risk, where here to make that risk 0. We proceed with the following goals :Prevent waste, and make it as easy to use as a webwallet. We're here to make the mix between functionality, security and ease of use.
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March 24, 2014, 06:32:33 AM |
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I don't get what just happened here.
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March 24, 2014, 08:59:35 AM |
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"Wolf of Bitcoin"? lol i cannot stop laughing
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