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August 29, 2020, 08:10:52 PM
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Despite the fact that in 2017 there were many good ICO projects that have been successfully developed so far, and now there are many good DeFi projects that will be developed in the future, most projects fail.
Not really true. Only a handful of 2017 projects (less than 100) survived without the creator running away with their coins collected during ICO. Even though some of them had the real potential they didn't care about the investors and scammed everyone outright. Many manged to survive till the end of 2019 before the pandemic has begun and many ran away during the bearish market of 2018. Many ICOs made successful promises during the start of 2018 and some managed to achieve that, but some or the other insider of the startup played a game and completely destroyed the reputation of the company.

I remember Oyster Pearl, Sykfchain, Elysian and many others eventually turning out into a scam and the price of a coin plummeting below a few satoshis. All these projects had the potential and if they didn't scam the investors, they could have something good with the money collected during ICO. Now the Defi trend is similar to ICO trend but here many of the developers remain anonymous so that they can run easily during the failure. YAM was a stupid coin and everyone were warned that there the contract wasn't audited and the coin should be maintained at the price tag of $1. But none of the newbie investors listened to that and pumped a $1 coin to $160 before analyzing the bug.

Only a few coins like Monero and ETH (apart from Bitcoin) have a little potential in this world, apart from that everyone are forks or just a new shitcoin to scam investors
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August 29, 2020, 09:03:00 PM
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i wish to state that the ICO era was never a hype period for crypto but a normal process which involves funding for new project. every crypto projects is required to pass through this stage because funding is necessary to sustain and develop a project. at the same time scammers will utilize this opportunity to scam greedy ones. the same can be observed for Defi projects. this current era of decentralization of finance from the old model to the digital era is needed to transform traditional finance to the modern age. therefore The defi sector have come to stay and scammers will also utilize the same opportunity just like the days of ico to scam inexperienced ones.

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August 29, 2020, 09:37:23 PM
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ICO period was never hyped this way instead investors investigate and buy or you expect little hype but not like this Defi hype. Defi hype really caused many pains and users used the hype of Defi to invest hugely and ended up losing almost all and some though gained hugely. You can't compare both anyways but they are all for project assistance.

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August 29, 2020, 09:43:47 PM
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I don't mean that all projects are bad and they will fall, but I want to warn people. Despite the fact that in 2017 there were many good ICO projects that have been successfully developed so far, and now there are many good DeFi projects that will be developed in the future, most projects fail. Do not invest blindly in everything that is popular, understand the potential risks, think yourself and never follow others, it's your money and time.

I agree and I think the word of caution against DeFi projects is very reasonable. It's obviously crucial that even if the buzz word 'DeFi' is being thrown around and dropped in many projects you still have to be cautious with your investments. Just because its DeFi doesn't mean it won't be a scam or fail.

So yh, best to keep these things in mind. And the analogy to bounty/ICOs is a good example where things have gone wrong when people didn't pay much attention to the details.





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August 29, 2020, 09:53:48 PM
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investors had learned a lot since the last time, i'm not sure if its the same as 2017 ICO. defi is different and because we learned from the past we might not at all invest to every defi and so the ones that are just making it good and legit are the ones going to survive. the new defi projects offered today could likely not get funds at all. but the ones already working are the ones that will have more investors.

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August 29, 2020, 10:24:23 PM
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You went straight from ICO to DeFi projects. You forgot to mention IEOs, which were very popular in 2019 and this year many exchanges continue to conduct successful IEO from time to time. And as I noticed, some exchanges (for example, Binance) began to actively attract the most popular or just very promising DeFi projects for placement.
At the moment, you can earn good money on DeFi, but it is the same soap bubble as in its time were ICO.

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August 29, 2020, 10:45:41 PM
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investors had learned a lot since the last time, i'm not sure if its the same as 2017 ICO. defi is different and because we learned from the past we might not at all invest to every defi and so the ones that are just making it good and legit are the ones going to survive. the new defi projects offered today could likely not get funds at all. but the ones already working are the ones that will have more investors.
Investors had learned their lessons but we cannot remove the fact that this DeFi hype is just the same as ICO before. Yes, this is different, but as we can all see, DeFi suddenly get the hype that no one really expected just the same as ICO before.

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August 29, 2020, 10:46:12 PM
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I believe that something really similar is happening right now with DeFi projects but with the difference that people are not as naive as they were back in the day, you need to understand that at that time people really believed that a new coin could replace bitcoin and they were willing to risk their savings on that bet only to realize too late they were wrong.

The hype for DeFi projects is definitely there but it is nowhere near as big as it was in 2017, however once again scammers have taken over the market and now we are full of coins that make all kind of promises using the DeFi hype only to disappear with all the money of investors, so I will suggest to people reading the forum to be very careful because just as they can earn a lot of money with surprising speed by investing in the right project they can lose everything just as fast as well.

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August 29, 2020, 10:46:47 PM
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I think the case is different, last 2017 and early 2018 was when Bitcoin reached its ATH.

whereas the HYPE that is happening at DeFi right now I think is just the product of a group of investors who want to build their own DeFi project image.

I think like this because a lot of the market capitalization of the DeFi project doesn't make sense and I'm not sure the DeFi Project has any real interest.

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August 29, 2020, 11:06:17 PM
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I do not think so. DeFi may be popular but the hype is not the same as during the ICO first. ICOs were the best days of crypto in history, the market was becoming more colorful and bull trands were very long back then. if compared now maybe Defi is just a temporary popularity that will soon fade.

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August 29, 2020, 11:24:26 PM
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Here are my thoughts about DeFi projects: the last year coinmarketcap Hits 350 billion USD before this year DeFi hype, right?
I'm trying to find out that DeFi isn't helping yet to pump a coinmarketcap. Coinmarketcap hits only 750 billion USD in the biggest pump of 2018. This year coinmarketcap can't surpass 750 billion but volume can surpass for some fake volume.

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August 29, 2020, 11:33:06 PM
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Yes, it can be said that Hype Defi is not much different from ICO in 2017. and this is a concept form of the cryptoqurrency industry. but I don't think that the ICO hype has ended it's just that investors started to decline after seeing that ICO was no longer as profitable as it was in 2017. To be honest I am more afraid of Defi's hype, this is really crazy. I hope everyone is always aware of Defi's hype.

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August 29, 2020, 11:41:13 PM
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Here are my thoughts about DeFi projects: the last year coinmarketcap Hits 350 billion USD before this year DeFi hype, right?
I'm trying to find out that DeFi isn't helping yet to pump a coinmarketcap. Coinmarketcap hits only 750 billion USD in the biggest pump of 2018. This year coinmarketcap can't surpass 750 billion but volume can surpass for some fake volume.
The hype of DeFi is quiet new and can’t still pump that much buy if they continue to pump in the last 4 months of 2020 then we can expect to reach that marketcap, anyway we still need bitcoin on this because that’s the biggest contributor of that peak.

DeFi hype is different this year because of their different approach and some of them offer a real business compare to the volume of fake ICO’s. Let’s just wait and buy cautiously so we can benefit from the DeFi projects as well, if this is just a hype then at least we make profit.

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August 29, 2020, 11:43:53 PM
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Yes, it can be said that Hype Defi is not much different from ICO in 2017. and this is a concept form of the cryptoqurrency industry. but I don't think that the ICO hype has ended it's just that investors started to decline after seeing that ICO was no longer as profitable as it was in 2017. To be honest I am more afraid of Defi's hype, this is really crazy. I hope everyone is always aware of Defi's hype.

You will only be afraid if you will invest on these projects without doing any research or assessment.
Because right now, as they are sprouting like mushrooms, it is better to lay low when it comes to your investments.
Once the dust settled, you will see which DeFi projects are still standing.
I am seeing a lot of fake DeFi projects already and most of them are already in Uniswap. So be careful.

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August 29, 2020, 11:57:48 PM
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Yes, it can be said that Hype Defi is not much different from ICO in 2017. and this is a concept form of the cryptoqurrency industry. but I don't think that the ICO hype has ended it's just that investors started to decline after seeing that ICO was no longer as profitable as it was in 2017. To be honest I am more afraid of Defi's hype, this is really crazy.

The ICO hype stays longer, I think that was over a year before it went down and ICO was big as it resulted to a bull run which helps bitcoin achieved it's ATH or if it was more bitcoin who contribute itself but I'm sure ICO plays a big role for the success too. Anyway, DeFi can't be measured right now as the hype is still here, so it's still on going and we never know when it will step and how big it would contribute to the market.

Bitcoin is trading at $11500 now, if bitcoin will reach $20,000, then we might say it really has a big contribution to the market and it could contribute bigger than the ICO previously if DeFi hype would still exist until next year.


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I hope everyone is always aware of Defi's hype.

And I hope they'll aware of the risk too.

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August 30, 2020, 02:24:09 AM
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 ICO is a new and effective investment method, many teams have raised enough capital to develop and realize their ideas, for example Ethereum. However, the ICO was abused in late 2017 by teams with poor competence or fraudulent intentions.
DeFi is like that, DeFi is our common purpose in the crypto economy, many DeFi projects have existed since 2018 and are developing very well. However, many new DeFi projects have emerged with a simple idea, with almost no valuable solution at all. It is almost certain that the new HYPE of 2020 will be DeFi.
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August 30, 2020, 03:11:30 AM
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Yes, it can be said that Hype Defi is not much different from ICO in 2017. and this is a concept form of the cryptoqurrency industry. but I don't think that the ICO hype has ended it's just that investors started to decline after seeing that ICO was no longer as profitable as it was in 2017. To be honest I am more afraid of Defi's hype, this is really crazy. I hope everyone is always aware of Defi's hype.

actually every time there are updates to overcome the many scam projects so that it doesn't attract many investors anymore. but as change if the one who runs it is someone who really wants to cheat, then all forms of change will be meaningless. will sound good at first there will eventually be a deadlock. what is the difference from the ICO changed to IEO I see does not make a significant change.

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Well, you may be true because both ICO in 2017 and current Defi are based on the Hype. Something like this cannot survive a long time and the Hype probably disappeares sooner or later. I can say that investing in Defi currently has the same risk as investing in ICO project in 2017. It may work at the beginning but after that we will see many low quality Defi projects which only take advantage of the Hype.
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August 30, 2020, 03:29:19 AM
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The hype seems the same but I think Defi isn't really 100% the same with ICO in 2017 if we consider the way in developing the project. I think Defi is much better than ICO in 2017. Defi has a clear concept and it becomes hype as it really offers a new concept for financial. While ICO in 2017 seems only hype because of the big expectation among people only.
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There's a difference between the two, ICO which stands for Initial Coin Offering and DeFi which stands for Decentralized Finance the first one is a crowdfunding system while the second one is a decentralized platform, in ICO heyday people just accept any projects that come in and support its crowdfunding, DeFi is a platform that sustains decentralization of getting a loan or taking coins to generate profit, any DeFi based project can do an ICO and every investor are wiser now they are not looking on the project that does ICO they check the platform, between the two DeFi can sustain its growth, while ICO is being abused by scam developers.

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