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August 31, 2020, 03:18:40 AM
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they risk so many things not just thier health because they are likely going to pay a fee for violating the rule  , theres a chance that they can loose thier capital on gambling , they are going to get a loan to cover thier losses and fees and so on .

saying that all forms of gambling is not allowed is a miatake because we can still play online gambling  . they  cant say that they also ban this because people will complain over them .
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August 31, 2020, 03:25:49 AM
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In my opinion, it cannot be justified for whatever reason if it violates government regulations. And not the best way to make money by gambling on cock fighting, to raise the finances we need.

Very True,  no question bout it and no justification as its was a strict implemented rules about this and
it should be followed to whatever places inside the county's premises.


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Because there are much better ways to earn money in a pandemic like now. Even though you want to play gambling, you should just play online gambling which is proven to be safer.

There are many ways. No need to try your luck it will only ruined the situations, like what happened now
instead you are using your money to a much better ways, you'll need to spend more to pay for your bails.
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August 31, 2020, 03:30:43 AM
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Well we cant really expect everyone to follow the rules thats why its not unusual to see such violators to satisfy themselves on gambling.

This is one of the reason too why we cant contain the spread of the virus. Some people are selfish to only think of themselves and not caring for the welfare of everyone.

Plus cockfighting gambling is not a reliable way to earn during this time.


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August 31, 2020, 05:28:56 AM
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I am familiar with the place you are living in. The scenario here on our place is the same as what you have got. Cockfighting is not yet allowed but gamblers are itching to make a social gathering for the event. This clearly violates the law the on MGCQ of no social gathering and social distancing. But do this scared them to stop the event? Nope, they are just ready to run when authorities arrived. They still can notice them because they strategicalltly place the event in a way that men in uniform will come to them. They still can run and left the area while police officers having hard time to get to them.
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August 31, 2020, 05:32:22 AM
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There are places where people are really incompliant with the government's safety protocol to avoid the spread of COVID. In our city, it's very strict if you are caught not wearing you will have to pay fine. Any social gathering is prohibited and those who will violate will be apprehended and fined. I guess people cannot be stopped from gambling, and they are not taking this pandemic seriously.
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August 31, 2020, 05:54:22 AM
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There are places where people are really incompliant with the government's safety protocol to avoid the spread of COVID. In our city, it's very strict if you are caught not wearing you will have to pay fine. Any social gathering is prohibited and those who will violate will be apprehended and fined. I guess people cannot be stopped from gambling, and they are not taking this pandemic seriously.
People wanted to have covid free in their community but the problem is they do not follow the health protocols given by the local health enforcers. They keep doing illegal things that may lead to the spread of the virus. There are a lot of illegal gambling that also happening in my community, cock fighting and illegal table games are usually gambling activities that are happening in my country. The bad thing is there are always mass gathering wherein the health protocols are been disregarded. I think it is better if they will continue their gambling after this pandemic because all of the people are affected and the virus may spread in many people.
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August 31, 2020, 06:44:49 AM
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Of course, it is not going to be worth the risk. You are just wasting your money with this. But I guess there is a certain fun in cockfighting that avid fans find, that even if there is an outstanding order not to get involved with it for now they cannot resist.

But surely this is not just about the money. This is not just about pure gambling. This is about how these people are really into cockfighting that months of not staging even a single fight is simply unbearable.
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August 31, 2020, 07:10:51 AM
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Here in our province, even though we're under on what our Government so called "MGCQ" or Mandatory General Community Quarantine, any form of gambling is still prohibited. But yesterday, many people has been caught betting on cock fighting on an actual fight here in our province.
Even in Cities not only in province this is happening and Government cannot handle this all,There are some who Plays in top of their Houses that Police cannot enter that easy and even if they can the gamblers can hide their activities and pretend that there is nothing happening.
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I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.
They don't care about the penalties because what they are looking is the Money they can win(though much on loseing)
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What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?
gamblers as what many says,will always gamble even if they only have few bucks in their pocket because that is not their desire instead it is addiction.

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August 31, 2020, 07:11:21 AM
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If government living expenses are insufficient (or even non-existent), they will do so with reasonable reasons, financial needs or survival are more important and precarious in times of a pandemic than the risk of infecting covid-19 whose danger level does not exceed the danger of famine. The risk of being caught and the fine may be tolerated so they ignore it.

Cockfighting is traditional gambling and the only one in my opinion that can be an alternative income hope during the pandemic while economic activity in remote areas is still deteriorating and there is not much that can be done there to cover the cost of living.

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August 31, 2020, 09:18:10 AM
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First of all, it is immoral to legalize humans getting live animals (chickens/cock in this case) to fight... I guess that is what Cock Fighting means in the country, yes or no?

Second, if the health safety measure rule is good, it's certainly a crime to break it and worse is breaking a good rule while taking big financial risk (gambling) on immoral "game/competition".

So, the bettors clearly did what is bad/immoral, which is betting on real animals (assuming they really did that).    Another important thing is to know if they took health risks with that activity.
No one should be encouraging animals to fight nor betting on such fights. And it's also not a good idea to gamble.
There are numerous safe ways to bet on good and safe games/sports.


I would have to know what kind of Quarantine rule was implemented before passing my full judgment. By the way, the government should discourage cock fighting.
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August 31, 2020, 09:53:36 AM
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Gambling madness cannot be avoided for over addiction and always looking for loopholes to fulfill his desire to gamble even though the government has banned and imposed fines for offenders. Unfortunately, they had already been caught and had to pay a fine for their futile actions.

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August 31, 2020, 10:43:20 AM
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Gambling madness cannot be avoided for over addiction and always looking for loopholes to fulfill his desire to gamble even though the government has banned and imposed fines for offenders. Unfortunately, they had already been caught and had to pay a fine for their futile actions.
^ Definitely right, they will always find ways just to gamble even they will prohibit the government law and probably pay fines once they will be caught. Cockfighting is very common in the Asian country, as I can see, they have been enjoyed to watch even in the backyard fight even though they know that is games belongs to animal cruelty. Violated the COVID 19 protocol or even your governments law probably a big risk in your health and also financially.
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August 31, 2020, 11:04:05 AM
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We can not blame people who caught betting on cockfighting. Maybe they want to make money from that, so they break the rule to still playing. We can say that is not worth, but if they don't have anything that they can do, hm they will still do it as what we read.

I think there will be another cockfighting in another place because people who addicted to that will still search for the other place, especially for people who don't have a job to make money.

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August 31, 2020, 12:07:13 PM
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Even Cock Fighting could be online now too! Why are people behaving like there's no pandemic. The procedure is quite easy, there should be a responsible management wherein, only the owner of the Cocks needs to be present, set up a good angle for the cameras and then live broadcast it in any platform they like. But since it is a province, I think the hindrance is the accessibility of the people to search for good platforms and to use it well. Maybe, to solve that issue, they need first to learn how online gambling works.

No, not everyone would enjoy online gambling on cock fighting, it will be fulfilling if seeing it live, so this people would still find a way to go out. Cock fighting gambling involves different kind of amount, some gamble big, while some gambled small but I'm pretty sure that most of them would prefer to see it live bringing their own cock and bet on it.

They can't make an excuse, we can suggest but it's up to them if they will get that alternative, but they have no choice but to follow the law.

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August 31, 2020, 12:08:20 PM
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Here in our province, even though we're under on what our Government so called "MGCQ" or Mandatory General Community Quarantine, any form of gambling is still prohibited. But yesterday, many people has been caught betting on cock fighting on an actual fight here in our province.

I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

Here in our country, people are really stubborn because even some of the authorities violate the law.

People are really looking for something where they can earn money even if it is prohibited. I don't really do gambling outside, I use online platforms to gamble so it is much safer for me plus I don't violate any rules. But this Cock Fighting amidst Covid-19 is really a risky and illegal thing to do.

Some people are using their money in gambling and at the end of the day, they will blame the government for not having some funds to use to sustain their necessities.

Always remember that prioritize your health first during this crisis.
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August 31, 2020, 02:23:16 PM
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We can not blame people who caught betting on cockfighting. Maybe they want to make money from that, so they break the rule to still playing. We can say that is not worth, but if they don't have anything that they can do, hm they will still do it as what we read.

I think there will be another cockfighting in another place because people who addicted to that will still search for the other place, especially for people who don't have a job to make money.

It is onus on people to understand what is right and wrong and if they want to continue doing the it. I know this pandemic there are many things happening and people may be free, or require some money so trying their luck etc, but if everyone start thinking the same way then just imagine what will happen. So, if they are caught then they have to face punishment which would be more than they could even have made some money from it.
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August 31, 2020, 02:51:45 PM
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This is what we called insane addiction where people can no longer stop their hobbyist even though it won't give them any good doing it anymore, let alone stoping it for the sake of the law. Nowadays, there are lots of people suffering from those conditions. whether in our country or outside of our area of responsibility. the only reason they cannot stop doing it is they have been doing this for a long and if there's nothing like a huge disaster is happening in front of them, they will still play as if like no one is telling them to stop.

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August 31, 2020, 02:56:22 PM
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We can not blame people who caught betting on cockfighting. Maybe they want to make money from that, so they break the rule to still playing. We can say that is not worth, but if they don't have anything that they can do, hm they will still do it as what we read.

I think there will be another cockfighting in another place because people who addicted to that will still search for the other place, especially for people who don't have a job to make money.

It is onus on people to understand what is right and wrong and if they want to continue doing the it. I know this pandemic there are many things happening and people may be free, or require some money so trying their luck etc, but if everyone start thinking the same way then just imagine what will happen. So, if they are caught then they have to face punishment which would be more than they could even have made some money from it.


no not all are going in same direction because not all loves cock fighting  .

our neighbors love this game and love to breed thier own chickens but me I have no interest to this field ever since I was young , I don't know why  but I am addicted on other kinds of gambling .   This cockfighting isn't all about money but there were people that got addicted to it and they want to test the ability of their own chickens .
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August 31, 2020, 03:01:18 PM
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Others may find it as an abuse to animals but cockfighting is legal in the Philippines and it's popular in the country since it's also a part of the tradition. What makes it illegal is because gambling is temporary not allowed due to pandemic, and it's part of the protocols here.

And since it's common in our country, organizing cockfighting events doesn't always need to be that big. You can gamble and bet by just gathering with other gamblers in any place available and make a bet. So they probably didn't do any safety measures like monitoring temperature or social distancing.
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August 31, 2020, 03:07:02 PM
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Even Cock Fighting could be online now too! Why are people behaving like there's no pandemic. The procedure is quite easy, there should be a responsible management wherein, only the owner of the Cocks needs to be present, set up a good angle for the cameras and then live broadcast it in any platform they like. But since it is a province, I think the hindrance is the accessibility of the people to search for good platforms and to use it well. Maybe, to solve that issue, they need first to learn how online gambling works.

in the Philippines especially in remote places they do not have access to the internet so they resort to backyard cockfighting, these people should be fined for doing this the government is spending a lot of money for the medication of the infected, and for the needs of poor people during the lockdown and yet they ignore and violate the quarantine rules of the government, this is not the only time I read and heard of these kinds of news there are many more, so many people are really stubborn in this times of pandemic.

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