COCK FIGHTING: COVID-19 health protocols violators, caught

[AicecreaME]

Here in our province, even though we're under on what our Government so called "MGCQ" or Modified General Community Quarantine, any form of gambling is still prohibited. But yesterday, many people has been caught betting on cock fighting on an actual fight here in our province.

I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

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[robelneo]

Here in our province, even though we're under on what our Government so called "MGCQ" or Mandatory General Community Quarantine, any form of gambling is still prohibited. But yesterday, many people has been caught betting on cock fighting on an actual fight here in our province.

I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

I'm sure that tupada or backyard cockfighting was done in an isolated place but unfortunately, someone tipped authorities about this case, they do not want to get caught I'm sure they know the penalties backyard cockfighting is illegal, there are two ways that they can do this, they either bribed the authorities or do this in a safe place they designate, unfortunately for them, they are caught.
Backyard cockfighting is very addictive and a pastime for folks in the province, they willingly forgot the protocol just to bet in this tupadas.

[acroman08]

their intent is to gamble and hoping to earn money for financial needs for their family or for their own.

36K PHP is a hefty price to pay(at least in our country). I bet they didn't expect that the fine for that violation would be that expensive. I just hope they'll learn from this and would hesitate when illegally gambling.

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

In my own opinion? no! but to these gamblers? yes, or they just don't care about the risk.

[Russlenat]

There's a law in place because that is the protocol to be followed but to prohibit gambling in this situation, we can expect that not everyone will follow as gamblers will always find a way regardless of the situation.

Cock fighting gambling is very common in the Philippines, so we can expect that some would really violate the law just to gamble, and I'm sure they will regret as the penalty is so high, so if they can't pay that penalty, they will stay in the Jail for a while. Maybe the penalty will have to be increase so these people would not really force to violate the law.

[smyslov]

Even if you did not mentioned the country I'm sure it's the Philippines where back yard cockfighting is very popular no wonder they have the most number of CoVid infection in Asia and it's still growing, people there are taking their chances because of lack of work or they just want to ease the boredom of the quarantine, whatever their reasons are, it's not right that they do cockfighting it will violate social distancing which the government is imposing, the violators will have to go to prison or pay the price to set example to others would be violators.

[Kupid002]

Here in our province, even though we're under on what our Government so called "MGCQ" or Mandatory General Community Quarantine, any form of gambling is still prohibited. But yesterday, many people has been caught betting on cock fighting on an actual fight here in our province.

I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

they are also in need there are people want to earn money easily and gambling have that category they just use the old way to gamble. If they know there are many other option to gamble without the need of physical  appearance I know they will love to try it. Gambling is already part of their life so they don't think about the risk they are not even afraid in virus.

[bisdak40]

~snip~.....
What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

It's not worth the risk and besides if you do this kind of activity (illegal cockfighting), the chance for you to win is 50/50 and the amount of fine is too much that your family will be having a hard time on bailing you out.

If you are really want to gamble on cockfighting, you still can do this online(still illegal) but at least you are not there physically and the risk for you to contract the virus is zero percent.

[Tipstar]

With the ever increasing lockdown, people have no options left than to disobey, this self confinement is driving many people crazy and they want something to keep them occupied. Gambling is one of the thing people misses the most after maybe beer parties.
Cock fighting is getting popular in my home town as well. Here's a farm that breeds and trains fighter cocks and participates in different tournaments as well sell them. I good fighter cock costs more than $1K and they eat more than I do in a single day. It was amazing to see at first.

[maydna]

Perhaps, we think that is not worth doing, but people are trying to make money in many ways. Some people are trying to make money from cockfighting, and even they know the risk if they are caught. The situations force them to do anything, so they can have money to buy their daily needs.

As you said, we don't know what their reason for betting on cockfighting. But one thing that we know, for a small society, is what they can do now because perhaps, they don't find any jobs available for them. We hope that people can find jobs to make money, so they don't have to bet in gambling games.

[AjithBtc]

From the thread it seems that the cock fight has taken place in Philippines. Even in my country we've got people betting on cocks. In the pandemic people have got stuck into the house. This is the reason for people to come out and go on cock fighting even when the government has made restrictions to lower the spread of covid-19.

[Kupid002]

With the ever increasing lockdown, people have no options left than to disobey, this self confinement is driving many people crazy and they want something to keep them occupied. Gambling is one of the thing people misses the most after maybe beer parties.
Cock fighting is getting popular in my home town as well. Here's a farm that breeds and trains fighter cocks and participates in different tournaments as well sell them. I good fighter cock costs more than $1K and they eat more than I do in a single day. It was amazing to see at first.

we already know there are people in needs in money but gambling is not the solution because it can make the situation much worse .

The price in your country is too high price IMO, in my country the value is only running in 100-200$ per cock and that cock already won many matches before.  Its reasonable price already but that's not came from a big farm.

[AicecreaME]

Here in our province, even though we're under on what our Government so called "MGCQ" or Mandatory General Community Quarantine, any form of gambling is still prohibited. But yesterday, many people has been caught betting on cock fighting on an actual fight here in our province.

I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

I'm sure that tupada or backyard cockfighting was done in an isolated place but unfortunately, someone tipped authorities about this case, they do not want to get caught I'm sure they know the penalties backyard cockfighting is illegal, there are two ways that they can do this, they either bribed the authorities or do this in a safe place they designate, unfortunately for them, they are caught.
Backyard cockfighting is very addictive and a pastime for folks in the province, they willingly forgot the protocol just to bet in this tupadas.

Oh well I bet that exactly what happened. Someone near in the place where the tupada (cock fighting) held tipped the authorities about this, and guess why? aside from being illegal, you could also get a tip from the police (I think PHP500-1K) every time you tip a scenario which violates the Community Quarantine rules.

And for the violators, yeah, they've risk their luck in order to push the event so they can be "happy" and earn money as well. But the table didn't turn out to be on their favor.

[Janation]

That is a hefty fine to pay.

As far as I know, they are illegal if people will not be doing that on a licensed cockpit, and also as far as I know there is a designated day for that. I can't tell you if it is Saturday or Sunday. They should know that it is still against the protocol and I don't think it is worth it because some are not even betting that huge let alone paying a 36K pesos.

[Jating]

Here in our province, even though we're under on what our Government so called "MGCQ" or Mandatory General Community Quarantine, any form of gambling is still prohibited. But yesterday, many people has been caught betting on cock fighting on an actual fight here in our province.

I guess gamblers will be gamblers, regardless if we are in a lockdown or pandemic. They will always find a way to squeeze and play the sports of cock fighting.

I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.

More likely more than $700 right? Anyhow, you can't really stop gamblers as I have said, they are risk takers and would likely take the risk, unfortunately, this time they have been caught.

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

Of course, It not's worth it, because of the health risk and now they are going to pay severe fines and I'm sure maybe some of them are regretting it, but too late now.

[Russlenat]

That is a hefty fine to pay.

 
It is, but gamblers still never learn.

As far as I know, they are illegal if people will not be doing that on a licensed cockpit,......

No, you can't apply that rules in the pandemic, not only cock fighting is not allowed but all sort of gambling as it gathers masses that would be prone to passing the virus among the people. So even if you do in a legal venue but the act itself is prohibited, you are still doing an illegal activity.

[Botnake]

As far as I know, they are illegal if people will not be doing that on a licensed cockpit,......

No, you can't apply that rules in the pandemic, not only cock fighting is not allowed but all sort of gambling as it gathers masses that would be prone to passing the virus among the people. So even if you do in a legal venue but the act itself is prohibited, you are still doing an illegal activity.

Agree, even the Vegas casinos, they were stopped for awhile although they are a legal entity, they only came back into operation when they have an approval to start operating again. If they operate prior to the approval, they are doing an illegal operation and they can be penalize for doing so, same with the example, cockpit owners can't used their license to exempt themselves from not following the mandate of the authorities.

[Saisher]

They should be put to jail for at least a week and given a hefty fine, this is to set example to potential violators that they cannot violate the protocols and ask forgiveness and granted forgiveness, the number of infected in the Philippines already reached over 200 k to date and this is one of the reason, the people's stubbornness.

[bobyhodob]

That is a hefty fine to pay.

 
It is, but gamblers still never learn.

As far as I know, they are illegal if people will not be doing that on a licensed cockpit,......

No, you can't apply that rules in the pandemic, not only cock fighting is not allowed but all sort of gambling as it gathers masses that would be prone to passing the virus among the people. So even if you do in a legal venue but the act itself is prohibited, you are still doing an illegal activity.

I think maybe in other ways such as making gambling places online and various other types that can still gamble so that the spread of Covid can be avoided and there is no need to be afraid of being exposed to this virus because we are gambling at home and don't need to hold gatherings.

[fiulpro]

Here in our province, even though we're under on what our Government so called "MGCQ" or Mandatory General Community Quarantine, any form of gambling is still prohibited. But yesterday, many people has been caught betting on cock fighting on an actual fight here in our province.

I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

1. Nothing is worth risking your health

2. Why don't people understand that placing bets on animal fights not only is regarded as an animal abuse at the same time you are helping this grow as a whole.

-.-

Make bets
Safe bets...
But not at the risk of someone's life or even yours.

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For sure 1 person there had the virus , now just gotta wait till 14 days to see how many people were affected.

This is sick
If you want to place your bets and gamble for sure there are many ways to do that without causing harm to anyone.

Use some online gambling sites. They have much more interaction and diversity at the same time if you do think you are not getting the shot of adrenaline then you can even try betting on boxing and such where both players have given consent regarding the fight and such . Just don't drag animals into this .

[serjent05]

Here in our province, even though we're under on what our Government so called "MGCQ" or Mandatory General Community Quarantine, any form of gambling is still prohibited. But yesterday, many people has been caught betting on cock fighting on an actual fight here in our province.

I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

They should be fined more because they are risking their community to the virus.  All I can say is that these people who are violating the covid-19 health protocol are selfish, thinking only their own entertainment.

We all know that is not worth the risk but these people don't mind other people nor the health of their family just to give in to the urge of gambling entertainment.

[plvbob0070]

Even before, I keep seeing news about some people violating and getting caught going outside for cockfighting and it's not something new, I guess? People will keep violating the rules again and again and won't stop unless they get caught. Some are even backed by government officials because they're also betting on it.

I don't really like it when I see news like that because most of those who are involved in cockfighting are the ones who are asking for money and help of the government, then they'll just use it in gambling instead of using it wisely. And aside from that, they're also risking their health (they might get infected by the virus) and security (might gets caught by officials).

[masulum]

This is also happening in my village, they think that COVID is just a lie by the government, the government wants to trouble the people and have nonsensical opinions. They don't care about other people's risks, all they have in mind is fun and money. It's useless to also tell those who think it's no longer a disease. They will continue to gamble like there is nothing.

[AicecreaME]

With the ever increasing lockdown, people have no options left than to disobey, this self confinement is driving many people crazy and they want something to keep them occupied.

They have a lot of reasons why they should never disobeyed. It would be understandable if they went out to buy some food instead, but they didn't. This "self confinement" that you were saying is not even enough for someone to go outside and play gambling.

My point here is that instead of wasting your money into something not valuable at all, why not use it for your needs, or your family needs so that you can see your wife and kids smiling, with that, you could already wipe up your sadness.

[FlightyPouch]

People here in our province are underestimating the virus the reason people are not following some protocols and even continues to go to some places where they could get the virus. I guess that is the same for those cockfight bettors. Tupada are illegal here but people are doing it because of how light the police are. I guess it is because of the fact that our place is kind of far from the PNP office so they could do what they wanted.

[AicecreaME]

Here in our province, even though we're under on what our Government so called "MGCQ" or Mandatory General Community Quarantine, any form of gambling is still prohibited. But yesterday, many people has been caught betting on cock fighting on an actual fight here in our province.

I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

They should be fined more because they are risking their community to the virus.  All I can say is that these people who are violating the covid-19 health protocol are selfish, thinking only their own entertainment.

We all know that is not worth the risk but these people don't mind other people nor the health of their family just to give in to the urge of gambling entertainment.

I don't think so, the fine is to give them a little bit scare, not to make a living for our fellow Filipino people. PHP36,000 is high enough for others not to try this kind of violation as well. Getting caught, paying up your fine is enough for someone to realize the lesson.

And for the health risk we are all concerned about, those who were caught were all tested negative for COVID-19, so there is no reason to worry about COVID spreading here in our province, which in fact that there's only 2 active cases here and they are already being taken care of in the main hospital here.

[Insanerman]

I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

We cannot simply blame those people whom do such actions due to them having financial problems. I think the poverty driven them to gamble despite having a tough quarantine prohibitions. Well if I were to be honest, being on a troublesome life would also lead me to do the same. Besides, as long as they haven't been affected with the virus, then it should be fine. But the penalty and fine is just evil, they can simply stop the activity and letting the gamblers go back to their families.

[panganib999]

Let me just put it in correct manner, MGCQ stands for (Modified General Community Quarantine) which is a much better version of GCQ for some restrictions are being modified so that somehow people can move freely on certain adjustments but still with the concern of exhibiting the health protocols to prevent the further spread of the virus.

Back to the discussion, I guess the OP belongs to the country Philippines for he have mentioned about cock fighting which is one of the most common gambling games that adults and even teenagers are playing mostly on the parts of province. The government have already clarified certain protocols that includes no mass gathering and temporary postponement or cancellation of gambling games and events to avoid the possibility of spreading the virus due to crowd. It is just that there are certain people who is really hard headed and cannot take anymore their boredom that is why they keep on abiding what is stated on the protocols making them to pay a fine. Fines are not being made to make them suffer but to make them be afraid of paying a large amount of payment for not following the rules. But due to being hard headed, still lots of people are doing what they want and if got infected always do blame on the government for the act they have personally done. In an obvious manner, it is not worth risking your health for the sake of betting on a cock fighting event for what you can win will be just used as a payment for doing what is against the rule so in short it is useless and nonsense.

[btc_angela]

I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

We cannot simply blame those people whom do such actions due to them having financial problems. I think the poverty driven them to gamble despite having a tough quarantine prohibitions. Well if I were to be honest, being on a troublesome life would also lead me to do the same. Besides, as long as they haven't been affected with the virus, then it should be fine. But the penalty and fine is just evil, they can simply stop the activity and letting the gamblers go back to their families.

Yes, probably they are driven because of poverty, however, if you don't have money then how can you gamble in cockfighting? doesn't make sense. And there are cases reported in the Philippines that people who got the stimulus package from the government are using that money not to buy food but to gamble. So I guess it's right to impose a heavy fine for these kind of people who opted to gamble their money instead of bringing food in the table for their families.

[lionheart78]

Yes, probably they are driven because of poverty, however, if you don't have money then how can you gamble in cockfighting? doesn't make sense. And there are cases reported in the Philippines that people who got the stimulus package from the government are using that money not to buy food but to gamble. So I guess it's right to impose a heavy fine for these kind of people who opted to gamble their money instead of bringing food in the table for their families.

I don't think that they are driven because of poverty.  Just as you said, if they are so poor they won't have money to bet on that cockfighting.  I believe it is just their lust for entertainment that leads them to watch and gamble in a cockfighting event.  If they have no money and intend to earn some, they should be more focused on an income-generating activity that can give them sure money in exchange of their service.

[goaldigger]

Cock fighting can be done on any open area and they can easily make profit on this that's why they are willing to take the risk not just for their health but also for the security of their family just to have money.

 If I'm going to be asked, this action is not acceptable considering that most of the player are considered as poor by many yet they have the money to gamble. I experience to watch a cock fighting before on open area, and when the authority comes everyone is running for their life and doing everything just not to get caught. They are violators, and they have to suffer for that and face the consequences, this is not worth it after all.

[Baofeng]

Not surprised though, about a week ago, I heard the same news here, police busted an illegal cock fighting den, and what make its sad though is that there are local officials that is involved as protectors. So this gamblers doesn't really care about their health, as long as they can continue with their vices and they know that they are not going to jail because they're being protected by crooked cops and some local officials.

[Quidat]

Here in our province, even though we're under on what our Government so called "MGCQ" or Mandatory General Community Quarantine, any form of gambling is still prohibited. But yesterday, many people has been caught betting on cock fighting on an actual fight here in our province.

I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

Its actually a matter of choice and those people had chose on playing and violating just for the sake of gambling and now they had been caught then they would need to face up those consequences because the those prohibition
specially on a quarantine period is just for the sake of its citizens itself but people cant just help or not able to control theirselves and chose to play in spite of the pandemic situation.This isnt for the good for government but for themselves and to the time where these people get infected then it just worsen up the situation where their own financial capacity would be affected and so as on the entire problem as a whole on a certain place.
Lots of factors will really be in next on line that would be hit up on a bigger problem so it isnt really worth on the risk.

[crzy]

Cock Fighting is very traditional way of gambling in our place , no surprise on this since they are doing this even before the pandemic but since the risk of getting infected is high, they should not do this and they should follow the protocol of the government or else they will suffer for that. I don't mind telling them not to do this because I'm sure they wont listen to me so If I see some group of people doing this, I'll tell the authority right away to stop this illegal gambling and to prevent them from infecting other people especially their families.

[TimeTeller]

Cock Fighting is very traditional way of gambling in our place , no surprise on this since they are doing this even before the pandemic but since the risk of getting infected is high, they should not do this and they should follow the protocol of the government or else they will suffer for that. I don't mind telling them not to do this because I'm sure they wont listen to me so If I see some group of people doing this, I'll tell the authority right away to stop this illegal gambling and to prevent them from infecting other people especially their families.

They should be penalized as the government is trying hard to contain the virus.
And yet, there are people who prioritized their gambling desire over the health protocols.
So it is just right that they will pay high fees for violating their pandemic regulations.
And the sad part here is that some govt officials are also protecting this illegal gambling activity.
Not surprising for a corrupt society. People should follow the govt as it is for their own good.

[livingfree]

They can't stop themselves.

It's a habit that they barely control and what their mind is telling them is that they have to do that regardless of the situation. Cock fighting or any form of gambling can't be stop if the people on that place can't control themselves.

Fines? if they have the money, they wouldn't care if they can bail out.

[carlfebz2]

Cock Fighting is very traditional way of gambling in our place , no surprise on this since they are doing this even before the pandemic but since the risk of getting infected is high, they should not do this and they should follow the protocol of the government or else they will suffer for that. I don't mind telling them not to do this because I'm sure they wont listen to me so If I see some group of people doing this, I'll tell the authority right away to stop this illegal gambling and to prevent them from infecting other people especially their families.

They should be penalized as the government is trying hard to contain the virus.
And yet, there are people who prioritized their gambling desire over the health protocols.
So it is just right that they will pay high fees for violating their pandemic regulations.
And the sad part here is that some govt officials are also protecting this illegal gambling activity.
Not surprising for a corrupt society. People should follow the govt as it is for their own good.

This is the sad truth on the society nowadays where corruption is still on play even we are on a very hard situation.There would really be protectors into these kind of gambling activity which if you do think up
seriously where these events can really be stopped or postponed yet knowing that cockfights do really have that huge number of gamblers on one venue.

Its impossible that no one would able to report it out or even locking those venues would already be a solution.If its held open then someone do really let them do the stuff.

Every violators should really be penalized and make it sure to be on big amounts so that they would really have second thoughts on violating it.

[MCobian]

In my opinion, it cannot be justified for whatever reason if it violates government regulations. And not the best way to make money
by gambling on cock fighting, to raise the finances we need. Because there are much better ways to earn money in a pandemic like
now. Even though you want to play gambling, you should just play online gambling which is proven to be safer.

[bisdak40]

Perhaps, we think that is not worth doing, but people are trying to make money in many ways. Some people are trying to make money from cockfighting, and even they know the risk if they are caught. The situations force them to do anything, so they can have money to buy their daily needs.

As you said, we don't know what their reason for betting on cockfighting. But one thing that we know, for a small society, is what they can do now because perhaps, they don't find any jobs available for them. We hope that people can find jobs to make money, so they don't have to bet in gambling games.

Cockfighting is a gamble and not a job that one could make money out of it. People who are engage in the illegal cockfighting are cockfight enthusiast and as we all know here in the Philippines, cockfighting is not yet allowed even if the quarantine status is MGCQ. People are just hard-headed and refuse to follow government rules and regulations, that one problem of a nation that have too much democracy.

I'm a cockfight enthusiast myself and even discourage some people on going to this illegal game as this may cause more problems on them if caught by the authorities. A fine of 50-80 thousand pesos is too much for an ordinary individual so it's better to follow the law and wait for a couple of months because this cockfighting game will be back soon if the situation become better.

[Kemarit]

Let them violate the heath protocols I'm sure they will see what's the consequences will be if not getting infected by the corona virus, which the Philippines is second in Asia if I'm not mistaken. If they got lucky, then their is the police that's going to arrest them with jail time and heavy fines.

So it is worth it? Hell no, they should have save and keep that money because we really don't know how long this pandemic will last. And it just shows that gamblers are really bad in making decisions.

[Debonaire217]

Even Cock Fighting could be online now too! Why are people behaving like there's no pandemic. The procedure is quite easy, there should be a responsible management wherein, only the owner of the Cocks needs to be present, set up a good angle for the cameras and then live broadcast it in any platform they like. But since it is a province, I think the hindrance is the accessibility of the people to search for good platforms and to use it well. Maybe, to solve that issue, they need first to learn how online gambling works.

[imstillthebest]

they risk so many things not just thier health because they are likely going to pay a fee for violating the rule  , theres a chance that they can loose thier capital on gambling , they are going to get a loan to cover thier losses and fees and so on .

saying that all forms of gambling is not allowed is a miatake because we can still play online gambling  . they  cant say that they also ban this because people will complain over them .

[Pamadar]

In my opinion, it cannot be justified for whatever reason if it violates government regulations. And not the best way to make money by gambling on cock fighting, to raise the finances we need.

Very True,  no question bout it and no justification as its was a strict implemented rules about this and
it should be followed to whatever places inside the county's premises.

Because there are much better ways to earn money in a pandemic like now. Even though you want to play gambling, you should just play online gambling which is proven to be safer.

There are many ways. No need to try your luck it will only ruined the situations, like what happened now
instead you are using your money to a much better ways, you'll need to spend more to pay for your bails.

[lienfaye]

Well we cant really expect everyone to follow the rules thats why its not unusual to see such violators to satisfy themselves on gambling.

This is one of the reason too why we cant contain the spread of the virus. Some people are selfish to only think of themselves and not caring for the welfare of everyone.

Plus cockfighting gambling is not a reliable way to earn during this time.

[jademaxsuy]

I am familiar with the place you are living in. The scenario here on our place is the same as what you have got. Cockfighting is not yet allowed but gamblers are itching to make a social gathering for the event. This clearly violates the law the on MGCQ of no social gathering and social distancing. But do this scared them to stop the event? Nope, they are just ready to run when authorities arrived. They still can notice them because they strategicalltly place the event in a way that men in uniform will come to them. They still can run and left the area while police officers having hard time to get to them.

[Genemind]

There are places where people are really incompliant with the government's safety protocol to avoid the spread of COVID. In our city, it's very strict if you are caught not wearing you will have to pay fine. Any social gathering is prohibited and those who will violate will be apprehended and fined. I guess people cannot be stopped from gambling, and they are not taking this pandemic seriously.

[DevilSlayer]

There are places where people are really incompliant with the government's safety protocol to avoid the spread of COVID. In our city, it's very strict if you are caught not wearing you will have to pay fine. Any social gathering is prohibited and those who will violate will be apprehended and fined. I guess people cannot be stopped from gambling, and they are not taking this pandemic seriously.

People wanted to have covid free in their community but the problem is they do not follow the health protocols given by the local health enforcers. They keep doing illegal things that may lead to the spread of the virus. There are a lot of illegal gambling that also happening in my community, cock fighting and illegal table games are usually gambling activities that are happening in my country. The bad thing is there are always mass gathering wherein the health protocols are been disregarded. I think it is better if they will continue their gambling after this pandemic because all of the people are affected and the virus may spread in many people.

[Fundamentals Of]

Of course, it is not going to be worth the risk. You are just wasting your money with this. But I guess there is a certain fun in cockfighting that avid fans find, that even if there is an outstanding order not to get involved with it for now they cannot resist.

But surely this is not just about the money. This is not just about pure gambling. This is about how these people are really into cockfighting that months of not staging even a single fight is simply unbearable.

[btc78]

Here in our province, even though we're under on what our Government so called "MGCQ" or Mandatory General Community Quarantine, any form of gambling is still prohibited. But yesterday, many people has been caught betting on cock fighting on an actual fight here in our province.

Even in Cities not only in province this is happening and Government cannot handle this all,There are some who Plays in top of their Houses that Police cannot enter that easy and even if they can the gamblers can hide their activities and pretend that there is nothing happening.

I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.

They don't care about the penalties because what they are looking is the Money they can win(though much on loseing)

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

gamblers as what many says,will always gamble even if they only have few bucks in their pocket because that is not their desire instead it is addiction.

[noorman0]

If government living expenses are insufficient (or even non-existent), they will do so with reasonable reasons, financial needs or survival are more important and precarious in times of a pandemic than the risk of infecting covid-19 whose danger level does not exceed the danger of famine. The risk of being caught and the fine may be tolerated so they ignore it.

Cockfighting is traditional gambling and the only one in my opinion that can be an alternative income hope during the pandemic while economic activity in remote areas is still deteriorating and there is not much that can be done there to cover the cost of living.

[Ucy]

First of all, it is immoral to legalize humans getting live animals (chickens/cock in this case) to fight... I guess that is what Cock Fighting means in the country, yes or no?

Second, if the health safety measure rule is good, it's certainly a crime to break it and worse is breaking a good rule while taking big financial risk (gambling) on immoral "game/competition".

So, the bettors clearly did what is bad/immoral, which is betting on real animals (assuming they really did that).    Another important thing is to know if they took health risks with that activity.
No one should be encouraging animals to fight nor betting on such fights. And it's also not a good idea to gamble.
There are numerous safe ways to bet on good and safe games/sports.


I would have to know what kind of Quarantine rule was implemented before passing my full judgment. By the way, the government should discourage cock fighting.

[skarais]

Gambling madness cannot be avoided for over addiction and always looking for loopholes to fulfill his desire to gamble even though the government has banned and imposed fines for offenders. Unfortunately, they had already been caught and had to pay a fine for their futile actions.

[DoublerHunter]

Gambling madness cannot be avoided for over addiction and always looking for loopholes to fulfill his desire to gamble even though the government has banned and imposed fines for offenders. Unfortunately, they had already been caught and had to pay a fine for their futile actions.

^ Definitely right, they will always find ways just to gamble even they will prohibit the government law and probably pay fines once they will be caught. Cockfighting is very common in the Asian country, as I can see, they have been enjoyed to watch even in the backyard fight even though they know that is games belongs to animal cruelty. Violated the COVID 19 protocol or even your governments law probably a big risk in your health and also financially.

[ethereumhunter]

We can not blame people who caught betting on cockfighting. Maybe they want to make money from that, so they break the rule to still playing. We can say that is not worth, but if they don't have anything that they can do, hm they will still do it as what we read.

I think there will be another cockfighting in another place because people who addicted to that will still search for the other place, especially for people who don't have a job to make money.

[Japinat]

Even Cock Fighting could be online now too! Why are people behaving like there's no pandemic. The procedure is quite easy, there should be a responsible management wherein, only the owner of the Cocks needs to be present, set up a good angle for the cameras and then live broadcast it in any platform they like. But since it is a province, I think the hindrance is the accessibility of the people to search for good platforms and to use it well. Maybe, to solve that issue, they need first to learn how online gambling works.

No, not everyone would enjoy online gambling on cock fighting, it will be fulfilling if seeing it live, so this people would still find a way to go out. Cock fighting gambling involves different kind of amount, some gamble big, while some gambled small but I'm pretty sure that most of them would prefer to see it live bringing their own cock and bet on it.

They can't make an excuse, we can suggest but it's up to them if they will get that alternative, but they have no choice but to follow the law.

[Latviand]

Here in our province, even though we're under on what our Government so called "MGCQ" or Mandatory General Community Quarantine, any form of gambling is still prohibited. But yesterday, many people has been caught betting on cock fighting on an actual fight here in our province.

I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

Here in our country, people are really stubborn because even some of the authorities violate the law.

People are really looking for something where they can earn money even if it is prohibited. I don't really do gambling outside, I use online platforms to gamble so it is much safer for me plus I don't violate any rules. But this Cock Fighting amidst Covid-19 is really a risky and illegal thing to do.

Some people are using their money in gambling and at the end of the day, they will blame the government for not having some funds to use to sustain their necessities.

Always remember that prioritize your health first during this crisis.

[glowing10]

We can not blame people who caught betting on cockfighting. Maybe they want to make money from that, so they break the rule to still playing. We can say that is not worth, but if they don't have anything that they can do, hm they will still do it as what we read.

I think there will be another cockfighting in another place because people who addicted to that will still search for the other place, especially for people who don't have a job to make money.

It is onus on people to understand what is right and wrong and if they want to continue doing the it. I know this pandemic there are many things happening and people may be free, or require some money so trying their luck etc, but if everyone start thinking the same way then just imagine what will happen. So, if they are caught then they have to face punishment which would be more than they could even have made some money from it.

[yazher]

This is what we called insane addiction where people can no longer stop their hobbyist even though it won't give them any good doing it anymore, let alone stoping it for the sake of the law. Nowadays, there are lots of people suffering from those conditions. whether in our country or outside of our area of responsibility. the only reason they cannot stop doing it is they have been doing this for a long and if there's nothing like a huge disaster is happening in front of them, they will still play as if like no one is telling them to stop.

[shoreno]

We can not blame people who caught betting on cockfighting. Maybe they want to make money from that, so they break the rule to still playing. We can say that is not worth, but if they don't have anything that they can do, hm they will still do it as what we read.

I think there will be another cockfighting in another place because people who addicted to that will still search for the other place, especially for people who don't have a job to make money.

It is onus on people to understand what is right and wrong and if they want to continue doing the it. I know this pandemic there are many things happening and people may be free, or require some money so trying their luck etc, but if everyone start thinking the same way then just imagine what will happen. So, if they are caught then they have to face punishment which would be more than they could even have made some money from it.

no not all are going in same direction because not all loves cock fighting  .

our neighbors love this game and love to breed thier own chickens but me I have no interest to this field ever since I was young , I don't know why  but I am addicted on other kinds of gambling .   This cockfighting isn't all about money but there were people that got addicted to it and they want to test the ability of their own chickens .

[plvbob0070]

~snip.

Others may find it as an abuse to animals but cockfighting is legal in the Philippines and it's popular in the country since it's also a part of the tradition. What makes it illegal is because gambling is temporary not allowed due to pandemic, and it's part of the protocols here.

And since it's common in our country, organizing cockfighting events doesn't always need to be that big. You can gamble and bet by just gathering with other gamblers in any place available and make a bet. So they probably didn't do any safety measures like monitoring temperature or social distancing.

[fortunecrypto]

Even Cock Fighting could be online now too! Why are people behaving like there's no pandemic. The procedure is quite easy, there should be a responsible management wherein, only the owner of the Cocks needs to be present, set up a good angle for the cameras and then live broadcast it in any platform they like. But since it is a province, I think the hindrance is the accessibility of the people to search for good platforms and to use it well. Maybe, to solve that issue, they need first to learn how online gambling works.

in the Philippines especially in remote places they do not have access to the internet so they resort to backyard cockfighting, these people should be fined for doing this the government is spending a lot of money for the medication of the infected, and for the needs of poor people during the lockdown and yet they ignore and violate the quarantine rules of the government, this is not the only time I read and heard of these kinds of news there are many more, so many people are really stubborn in this times of pandemic.

[target]

The problem with scenarios like this is that the police are also part of these gambling community. Sabungeros knew each other within a specific city, all the cockfight bettors knew each other even the police that goes there in the area. It's a small community that keeps the communication, they even travel together to visit a small town derby. It will be a pain in the ass for local authorities who are also sabungeros.

Those who violated the protocols could be detained and issue penalty but it boils down to whether there is something to gain really.  They'd spend a week to squeeze $10 from each of them but will they be willing to put a crowd the tiny jailhouse. If authorities detain a big fish, they'd be in trouble too.

[pakhitheboss]

Stupidity actually does not have a cure. Only stupid people will take such a risk, they forgot that because of them their family might be also at risk of contracting this virus.

In the end, those who were caught lost everything they might have won.

[milewilda]

We can not blame people who caught betting on cockfighting. Maybe they want to make money from that, so they break the rule to still playing. We can say that is not worth, but if they don't have anything that they can do, hm they will still do it as what we read.

I think there will be another cockfighting in another place because people who addicted to that will still search for the other place, especially for people who don't have a job to make money.

It is onus on people to understand what is right and wrong and if they want to continue doing the it. I know this pandemic there are many things happening and people may be free, or require some money so trying their luck etc, but if everyone start thinking the same way then just imagine what will happen. So, if they are caught then they have to face punishment which would be more than they could even have made some money from it.

no not all are going in same direction because not all loves cock fighting  .

our neighbors love this game and love to breed thier own chickens but me I have no interest to this field ever since I was young , I don't know why  but I am addicted on other kinds of gambling .   This cockfighting isn't all about money but there were people that got addicted to it and they want to test the ability of their own chickens .

Can be still called an addiction specially if you do not trying to avoid to engage even if we are on a pandemic but if not then i would say that you are just really a fan or doing it as a hobby but since it do involves money then it can be considered as gambling but there are people whom do really good on controlling up themselves even how badly they do like to bet up into their cocks.Each person does have their own interest in life
and even myself dont find any entertaining thing about cock fighting and i rather see this as an animal cruelty instead but well this had been part of the tradition on some countries where cock fights
are really that popular.

[Shasha80]

It's stupid if we want to play cock fighting but have to break the rules, because that will add to the problems we have to face.
To my knowledge cock fighting will get a crowded, and it will cause the spread of the corona virus to accelerate. So I don't think
it's worth sacrificing our health to play cock fighting, there are still many ways to distribute our desires if you want to play gambling
without sacrificing our health. Maybe playing online casino is much better.

[AmoreJaz]

It's stupid if we want to play cock fighting but have to break the rules, because that will add to the problems we have to face.
To my knowledge cock fighting will get a crowded, and it will cause the spread of the corona virus to accelerate. So I don't think
it's worth sacrificing our health to play cock fighting, there are still many ways to distribute our desires if you want to play gambling
without sacrificing our health. Maybe playing online casino is much better.

people sometimes are dumb just to follow their impulses and not care for what is going on in our community. so just right, if they will be penalized or put into prison for the time being. need to learn their lesson for ignoring what the government is prescribing them to do.
 our crisis is real so people should be cooperative to end this crisis. otherwise, people will continue to suffer because of others' hard headedness!

[Vintry Dribbler 1975]

Most parts of the world abhor any form of animal fighting, so for your region to flagrantly host and participate in those kinds of animal cruelty games, then it is little wonder they have no regard for other people's lives (much less their own I would imagine)

[Reatim]

Here in our province, even though we're under on what our Government so called "MGCQ" or Mandatory General Community Quarantine, any form of gambling is still prohibited. But yesterday, many people has been caught betting on cock fighting on an actual fight here in our province.

I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

These people must not be allowed to Bail or Fine instead they must be put behind bars for a certain time so they will never spread the
 game again because for sure after being released?
they will continue their stupidity in Gambling.
I have watched some News about Cockfighting happening in any places that unusual to  think there are happening like Cockfight.
There where some in Rooftop of their high houses,some in Cemetery
 and some are inside their compound so police might not find them easily.
Why can't they wait?though i am sure since these gamblers are illegal players no wonder they don't have
 to wait for the normal to happen.

[Ziskinberg]

Stupidity actually does not have a cure. Only stupid people will take such a risk, they forgot that because of them their family might be also at risk of contracting this virus.

Yeah, the very main reason of the prevention is to not getting infected or infect other people, in this kind of gathering of the crowd, one carrier would easily the number of people around him, so it's just right that the penalty is big, but still they are still violating.

They know the risk, they just don't think they will get caught.

In the end, those who were caught lost everything they might have won.

Worst if they don't win anything.

[Janation]

As far as I know, they are illegal if people will not be doing that on a licensed cockpit,......

No, you can't apply that rules in the pandemic, not only cock fighting is not allowed but all sort of gambling as it gathers masses that would be prone to passing the virus among the people. So even if you do in a legal venue but the act itself is prohibited, you are still doing an illegal activity.

I agree but there are those people that do meetups(tupada) to cockfight in some places here.

Tupada is illegal and the fact that we are still in a pandemic means that it will be more of a hefty payment. I don't know what's going on with them since they are afraid of the virus but not afraid to do these meetups(tupadas) with other people that might carry the virus.

[Ucy]

~snip.

Others may find it as an abuse to animals but cockfighting is legal in the Philippines and it's popular in the country since it's also a part of the tradition. What makes it illegal is because gambling is temporary not allowed due to pandemic, and it's part of the protocols here.

And since it's common in our country, organizing cockfighting events doesn't always need to be that big. You can gamble and bet by just gathering with other gamblers in any place available and make a bet. So they probably didn't do any safety measures like monitoring temperature or social distancing.

 I get it now. I'm not really interested in those popular phrase (animal abuse), what should really matter is whether it is right or wrong to get animals to fight themselves. It's not like typical fighting competition involving humans(I don't think many of such fights are good) which the competitors are aware of as entertainment and not serious fight.  In the animal case, the fight is most likely done against their will, they most likely see it as real fight, they most likely won't get properly rewarded for the fight (the human will likely get the reward), etc
By the way, I really don't see the need for such fight. It looks selfish - to satisfy the human evil lust, not for the good of the animals. I would ban it!

[pikkie]

As far as I know, they are illegal if people will not be doing that on a licensed cockpit,......

~

I agree but there are those people that do meetups(tupada) to cockfight in some places here.

Tupada is illegal and the fact that we are still in a pandemic means that it will be more of a hefty payment. I don't know what's going on with them since they are afraid of the virus but not afraid to do these meetups(tupadas) with other people that might carry the virus.

maybe having a meeting may still have certain people, meaning that if everyone wants to meet, they must pay attention to the covid protocol properly and as much as possible all of them comply with these regulations so that they can minimize the spread of covid and as much as possible must be in an open room because currently the spread of the virus can already be through the air so still have to be careful.

[plr]

People cannot break their old habits especially in gambling but they need to understand the dangers if they are caught, the government and the police should set up example by putting to prison all offenders, they cannot manage the growing number of infected if they will not put to jail and fine violators, the government should show the people that they are serious in the campaign.

[blockman]

"MGCQ" or Mandatory General Community Quarantine

Letter M doesn't mean Mandatory but 'Modified'.

But yesterday, many people has been caught betting on cock fighting on an actual fight here in our province.

These people were not scared of covid19. I thought that this is only happening in the city. The last time I've watched the news many were arrested for mass gathering through field cock fighting and still in other places, they haven't learned the lesson.

I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

No, it's not worth it but these people don't understand that covid19 pandemic is a serious situation.

[peter0425]

I have reported two gambling activities near my community as other concern citizen had told me about the operations.
I am not a gambling Haters but i don't like the idea of them Still in gambling while Begging help from the government?
these people is full of laziness and just seeking for support and spending in their stupid gambling activities.

[Botnake]

As far as I know, they are illegal if people will not be doing that on a licensed cockpit,......

No, you can't apply that rules in the pandemic, not only cock fighting is not allowed but all sort of gambling as it gathers masses that would be prone to passing the virus among the people. So even if you do in a legal venue but the act itself is prohibited, you are still doing an illegal activity.

I agree but there are those people that do meetups(tupada) to cockfight in some places here.

Tupada is illegal and the fact that we are still in a pandemic means that it will be more of a hefty payment. I don't know what's going on with them since they are afraid of the virus but not afraid to do these meetups(tupadas) with other people that might carry the virus.

They can't resist the temptation, that's the main reason, period.

If a gambler has no discipline, most likely they will just lose, what they are doing is already considered as a gambling addiction as despite of the prohibition, they still violate the law just to gamble, this is an irresponsible move not only putting the people directly sorrounded to you which is your family but the society as well as some people does not even know they are already affected, so they keep roaming around and that's why prohibition on mass gathering like gambling is strictly prohibited. Aside from monetary penalty, I think they should be jailed for months to really send a message to the violators.

[Janation]

I have reported two gambling activities near my community as other concern citizen had told me about the operations.
I am not a gambling Haters but i don't like the idea of them Still in gambling while Begging help from the government?
these people is full of laziness and just seeking for support and spending in their stupid gambling activities.

That takes a lot of courage, to be honest.

I know some people are gambling near our place but I can't actually tell them since most of those people are my cousins. But I disagree that they are just lazy and seeking support through gambling, they are doing that because they are so bored with this quarantine since most of the time they are really betting on cockfights. It is entertainment to some and an addiction to most of them.

[Japinat]

I have reported two gambling activities near my community as other concern citizen had told me about the operations.
I am not a gambling Haters but i don't like the idea of them Still in gambling while Begging help from the government?
these people is full of laziness and just seeking for support and spending in their stupid gambling activities.

That takes a lot of courage, to be honest.

I know some people are gambling near our place but I can't actually tell them since most of those people are my cousins. But I disagree that they are just lazy and seeking support through gambling, they are doing that because they are so bored with this quarantine since most of the time they are really betting on cockfights. It is entertainment to some and an addiction to most of them.

In general they are not really seeking support from gambling, instead, they are just spending money.
What's worse to know is that our government made an effort to give financial support to the people, and yet some of them are just spending it in gambling.

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

It is one of the reasons why other people find gambling as a bad habit because of this kind of violators that they will do everything just to continue their gambling hobby. We all know many people have lost their jobs and source of income due to the pandemic of COVID-19, but it doesn't mean they need to violate the health protocols and used their savings to bet on a cock fight. Gambling is not a way to gain money or a source of income because it is only good for entertainment and leisure time.

[peter0425]

I have reported two gambling activities near my community as other concern citizen had told me about the operations.
I am not a gambling Haters but i don't like the idea of them Still in gambling while Begging help from the government?
these people is full of laziness and just seeking for support and spending in their stupid gambling activities.

That takes a lot of courage, to be honest.

I know some people are gambling near our place but I can't actually tell them since most of those people are my cousins. But I disagree that they are just lazy and seeking support through gambling, they are doing that because they are so bored with this quarantine since most of the time they are really betting on cockfights. It is entertainment to some and an addiction to most of them.

In general they are not really seeking support from gambling, instead, they are just spending money.
What's worse to know is that our government made an effort to give financial support to the people, and yet some of them are just spending it in gambling.

I think its the same thing?they are not seeking personally but still they are angry if the financial support don't come their way?meaning they still wanted to receive and of course part of those will come to gambling?and besides maybe not majority but generally yes since the Assistance of government in regards to Financial has been given most of the people.
anyway we have our own views but i respect yours guys so hoping that i will receive the same .

[AicecreaME]

Even Cock Fighting could be online now too! Why are people behaving like there's no pandemic. The procedure is quite easy, there should be a responsible management wherein, only the owner of the Cocks needs to be present, set up a good angle for the cameras and then live broadcast it in any platform they like. But since it is a province, I think the hindrance is the accessibility of the people to search for good platforms and to use it well. Maybe, to solve that issue, they need first to learn how online gambling works.

Most of the people here are still not aware of technology. They may have gadgets but they still don't know how to use it properly, all they know is Facebook (lol). Even if they do know the online sabong, the internet connection here is very poor that is why it is not really recommended. Also, I think that they are more thrilled when they are playing cock fighting actually, because they'll be able to know if their cocks are good or no after all the breeding they've done in a period of time preparing for the fight.

[FlightyPouch]

So it is worth it? Hell no, they should have save and keep that money because we really don't know how long this pandemic will last. And it just shows that gamblers are really bad in making decisions.

Hope these gamblers could hear you so they would realize what they are doing. People are doing what they wanted and that is the same as these people betting on cockfighting. New cases had been reported in our province so I think it would really hit them to stop what they are doing. I warned my friend about going in one today and I don't know if they continued that.

[Sadlife]

Most of these people are in the poor sector, without money and food to eat, and the stress being bored all day due to the quarantine protocols. People find ways to entertain themselves, only satisfying their cravings to wager their last cash only to enjoy. Those kinds of people are compulsive gamblers.

[Golftech]

Most of these people are in the poor sector, without money and food to eat, and the stress being bored all day due to the quarantine protocols. People find ways to entertain themselves, only satisfying their cravings to wager their last cash only to enjoy. Those kinds of people are compulsive gamblers.

You are bored but has no Food in your table to eat but you will entertain and risk the last money in your pocket?

This is a Pure BS mate,and i will never give consent in this kind of behavior.

Why not instead of gambling use the last money they have to at least try to make Small business ,Like selling some cheap foods so
they will earn at least than losing the Money in gambling as we know that one needs to lose for another to win.

[bitterguy28]

So it is worth it? Hell no, they should have save and keep that money because we really don't know how long this pandemic will last. And it just shows that gamblers are really bad in making decisions.

Hope these gamblers could hear you so they would realize what they are doing. People are doing what they wanted and that is the same as these people betting on cockfighting. New cases had been reported in our province so I think it would really hit them to stop what they are doing. I warned my friend about going in one today and I don't know if they continued that.

But looking at their attitude?surely they are far different from what he is mentioning,Keeping their Money must be the thing they must do but instead gambling is what goes in their mind instead.
we all know that we are Bored because of lockdown and quarantine but the government is only here to help us ,and saving the country from spreading of this Virus.

Most of these people are in the poor sector, without money and food to eat, and the stress being bored all day due to the quarantine protocols. People find ways to entertain themselves, only satisfying their cravings to wager their last cash only to enjoy. Those kinds of people are compulsive gamblers.

How i wish mentality of People will change and will prior what needs to be,I also love to gamble but not to the extent that even the money
 for my family to feed will be needing to Bet for a chance of gaining more.

[erikoy]

Most of these people are in the poor sector, without money and food to eat, and the stress being bored all day due to the quarantine protocols. People find ways to entertain themselves, only satisfying their cravings to wager their last cash only to enjoy. Those kinds of people are compulsive gamblers.

They just recieve their Financial support from the government and then itching on gambling so since they got the money already they use it to bet. This is the kind of mentality that people has. Not only betting on cockfight but also to playing cards which is vert know in our olace as tong its.

Most of these people complains a lot during lockdown because they had nothing to eat a d just only depending on the government support from the basic commodities given to them. But this is not regular and only a few times that it happens. However, when receiving financial suppory most of them tend to bet and are also complaining that the government financial support should have an increase beecause it is not enough to feed their family but literally goes to gambling.Super duper dumbest mindset ever.

[Rosilito]

Here in our province, even though we're under on what our Government so called "MGCQ" or Mandatory General Community Quarantine, any form of gambling is still prohibited.

Isn't it "Modifed" rather than Mandatory? Well not quite sure though.

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What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

Don't 'bout you guys, but I really doubt that such reason was their intent, as when winning on that sort of game isn't hundred percent guaranteed  . Or maybe their confidence was that immeasurable for 'em to even go such length But yeah, who knows?

Even Cock Fighting could be online now too! Why are people behaving like there's no pandemic. The procedure is quite easy, there should be a responsible management wherein, only the owner of the Cocks needs to be present, set up a good angle for the cameras and then live broadcast it in any platform they like. But since it is a province, I think the hindrance is the accessibility of the people to search for good platforms and to use it well. Maybe, to solve that issue, they need first to learn how online gambling works.

Most of the people here are still not aware of technology. They may have gadgets but they still don't know how to use it properly, all they know is Facebook (lol). Even if they do know the online sabong, the internet connection here is very poor that is why it is not really recommended. Also, I think that they are more thrilled when they are playing cock fighting actually, because they'll be able to know if their cocks are good or no after all the breeding they've done in a period of time preparing for the fight.

Man, that was a great idea. It's just pity that it is not yet possible for them to do it right now  .

[bisdak40]

Most of these people are in the poor sector, without money and food to eat, and the stress being bored all day due to the quarantine protocols. People find ways to entertain themselves, only satisfying their cravings to wager their last cash only to enjoy. Those kinds of people are compulsive gamblers.

I don't think that these don't have any money at all as they can afford to bet on their cocks and mind you, taking care a couple of fighting cocks is costly so i think they have the money. I may agree that these guys are compulsive gamblers, they can't wait for the cockfighting arena to be open again or they are just a plain hard-headed individuals that don't think that what they are doing is putting the health of their families in jeopardy.

Will this illegal cockfighting in quarantine period stops? I don't think so, they are just too many here in our country.

[Stedsm]

Not just their health, they also risked their money by doing this and I think that any person who's in complete senses would never gamble during these times when we already know the situation and also understand the value of money currently in our lives. Now, after paying $600 (if they manage it), do you believe that the caught people will be able to earn it back so easily and pursue their families? I don't think it's that easy. Even if they are interested in gambling, why not online gambling with a fixed capital that they could afford to lose (though no money is affordable enough to be lost during these tough times).

[Questat]

Even if they are interested in gambling, why not online gambling with a fixed capital that they could afford to lose (though no money is affordable enough to be lost during these tough times).

These people or at least most of them does not have any idea how to gamble online. It requires a little knowledge about computer and internet to gamble online, most of them just follow the traditional way of gambling and that is gambling live watching the game in the venue, and you are right, these people won't learn.

[Oilacris]

Most of these people are in the poor sector, without money and food to eat, and the stress being bored all day due to the quarantine protocols. People find ways to entertain themselves, only satisfying their cravings to wager their last cash only to enjoy. Those kinds of people are compulsive gamblers.

I don't think that these don't have any money at all as they can afford to bet on their cocks and mind you, taking care a couple of fighting cocks is costly so i think they have the money. I may agree that these guys are compulsive gamblers, they can't wait for the cockfighting arena to be open again or they are just a plain hard-headed individuals that don't think that what they are doing is putting the health of their families in jeopardy.

Will this illegal cockfighting in quarantine period stops? I don't think so, they are just too many here in our country.

Come to think that even on normal days where a certain cockpit arena does have an event then the venue had been flocked by lots of cars do parking outside and those arent owned by some fans or bystanders but rather those are owned by those cock fight gamblers instead.

They arent poor and as you said this i somehow a very costly kind of gambling yet you would need to maintain up your cock to be on its best condition plus having big bets.

People who cant just understand these health protocols or restrictions neither they are poor or rich then they are really need to be penalized yet violation is always be a violation and theres no exception on that.

[arwin100]

Most of these people are in the poor sector, without money and food to eat, and the stress being bored all day due to the quarantine protocols. People find ways to entertain themselves, only satisfying their cravings to wager their last cash only to enjoy. Those kinds of people are compulsive gamblers.

I don't think that these don't have any money at all as they can afford to bet on their cocks and mind you, taking care a couple of fighting cocks is costly so i think they have the money. I may agree that these guys are compulsive gamblers, they can't wait for the cockfighting arena to be open again or they are just a plain hard-headed individuals that don't think that what they are doing is putting the health of their families in jeopardy.

Will this illegal cockfighting in quarantine period stops? I don't think so, they are just too many here in our country.

They arent poor and as you said this i somehow a very costly kind of gambling yet you would need to maintain up your cock to be on its best condition plus having big bets.

People who cant just understand these health protocols or restrictions neither they are poor or rich then they are really need to be penalized yet violation is always be a violation and theres no exception on that.

Agree if they are poor they cannot afford to maintain a cock since the maintenance and conditioning is so expensive also imagine the bets when you are playing in the arena or anywhere for sure you will not placed any small amount on your bets.

And people are just hard headed to obey the protocols and social status is not an excuse here they should be penalize and put behind the bars to serve as a warning to others who still doing this.

[Japinat]

People who cant just understand these health protocols or restrictions neither they are poor or rich then they are really need to be penalized yet violation is always be a violation and theres no exception on that.

The penalty is not enough to instill fear to these people to follow, if more and more cases of this will happen, maybe it's time for them to revisit the rules and put more penalty so it will ensure that cases like this will be minimize, of course no law could fully eradicate this kind of behavior as gambling addiction will make gamblers find a way to gamble, no matter what.

[FlightyPouch]

Hope these gamblers could hear you so they would realize what they are doing. People are doing what they wanted and that is the same as these people betting on cockfighting. New cases had been reported in our province so I think it would really hit them to stop what they are doing. I warned my friend about going in one today and I don't know if they continued that.

But looking at their attitude?surely they are far different from what he is mentioning,Keeping their Money must be the thing they must do but instead gambling is what goes in their mind instead.
we all know that we are Bored because of lockdown and quarantine but the government is only here to help us ,and saving the country from spreading of this Virus.

Well, not all of these people are thinking of saving their money. Most of them are not financially illiterate and I know that they don't care whether they are caught or lost a lot of money from betting on cockfighting, the most important thing for them is just to bet and have fun. I asked my friend and they said that they didn't continue because of the new cases announced yesterday. That just means the government became strict or they are scared of the virus.

I hope it is the latter.

[Oilacris]

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Agree if they are poor they cannot afford to maintain a cock since the maintenance and conditioning is so expensive also imagine the bets when you are playing in the arena or anywhere for sure you will not placed any small amount on your bets.

And people are just hard headed to obey the protocols and social status is not an excuse here they should be penalize and put behind the bars to serve as a warning to others who still doing this.

It would really serve as a warning and it should really be on higher amount so that no one will really tend to oppose nor violate.This is for their own good and also as a whole because

it will really stop the spread of corona virus knowing that these venues are really very crowded which is really a high potential of such spreading infection.

People who cant just understand these health protocols or restrictions neither they are poor or rich then they are really need to be penalized yet violation is always be a violation and theres no exception on that.

The penalty is not enough to instill fear to these people to follow, if more and more cases of this will happen, maybe it's time for them to revisit the rules and put more penalty so it will ensure that cases like this will be minimize, of course no law could fully eradicate this kind of behavior as gambling addiction will make gamblers find a way to gamble, no matter what.

As i said earlier this is a must thing because people would just simply ignore since they do know that they can pay out the fines or penalty unlike if they do set out
bigger ones which majority cant able to pay-off then that would surely make some doubts on proceeding if they would play or not.

[Japinat]

People who cant just understand these health protocols or restrictions neither they are poor or rich then they are really need to be penalized yet violation is always be a violation and theres no exception on that.

The penalty is not enough to instill fear to these people to follow, if more and more cases of this will happen, maybe it's time for them to revisit the rules and put more penalty so it will ensure that cases like this will be minimize, of course no law could fully eradicate this kind of behavior as gambling addiction will make gamblers find a way to gamble, no matter what.

As i said earlier this is a must thing because people would just simply ignore since they do know that they can pay out the fines or penalty unlike if they do set out
bigger ones which majority cant able to pay-off then that would surely make some doubts on proceeding if they would play or not.

It's not only the monetary penalty that they should look into, I think isn't like a real penalty, but just a bail because once you violate the law, you will have to serve a jail time for that, correct me if I'm wrong.

[Inkdatar]

Here in our province, even though we're under on what our Government so called "MGCQ" or Mandatory General Community Quarantine, any form of gambling is still prohibited. But yesterday, many people has been caught betting on cock fighting on an actual fight here in our province.

I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

There are many violators and not abiding the law as I’ve watched the news. Some of them are finding a ways on how to earn money by going there on cockfighting even there's a risks of this covid19. Also some intent just a pure of gambling that can't even passed days off to gamble. They must took a serious warning for those who are into betting of this kind of gambling so actually not worth it to risks your health and also for those people that this is their way of living to sustain their financial needs for their family.

[aioc]

I happens to have some friends who are very much into cock fighting it's a small time back yard cockfighting which is very popular in our place, usually done in a place only bettors and cock owners knows, and they told me that they cannot stop the urge to watch and bet on this cock fighting, they even go to the point that they are making a loan just to bet, their alibi to bet in this pandemic is that they are wearing masks but they did not practice social distancing which is very hard in this kind of gambling.   

[maydna]

Cockfighting as a traditional gambling game, still be favorite the gamblers, and in this pandemic, many of them start to play that in a secret place, especially in a house that doesn't use anymore. Many of them don't care about the Covid-19 because they don't wear a mask in a crowd, they don't use social distancing, and who knows, they don't carry hand sanitizer too. It happens in many countries because people tend not to follow the rule when they are in public areas.

I think if they know about online gambling games, they will try to play from their home so that they can prevent the infection, and they don't have to worry about the virus.

It is not easy to remind people who play traditional gambling games in this pandemic because that is what they did in their free time, especially for people who live in a small town.

[Kemarit]

So it is worth it? Hell no, they should have save and keep that money because we really don't know how long this pandemic will last. And it just shows that gamblers are really bad in making decisions.

Hope these gamblers could hear you so they would realize what they are doing. People are doing what they wanted and that is the same as these people betting on cockfighting. New cases had been reported in our province so I think it would really hit them to stop what they are doing. I warned my friend about going in one today and I don't know if they continued that.

Yeah, and this pandemic really brings the best (and worst) for gamblers, for some who love to go to traditional landbase casino's have refrain, like me, helping me to at least save some, while for those like this illegal cockfighting, it continue to grow even when we are in the pandemic, risking their life on the line. And it might be too late for them before they realized it.

[masulum]

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I think if they know about online gambling games, they will try to play from their home so that they can prevent the infection, and they don't have to worry about the virus.

even they are no a online gambling, some of them will not take a part for this kind of gambling. Because they are thinking about their hobbies to gambling face to face with other players. We are can't stop them take the risk of their health and life. Another reason, they may still play in traditional gambling is they are doesn't interest in online gambling.

[Ucy]

Even Cock Fighting could be online now too! Why are people behaving like there's no pandemic. The procedure is quite easy, there should be a responsible management wherein, only the owner of the Cocks needs to be present, set up a good angle for the cameras and then live broadcast it in any platform they like. But since it is a province, I think the hindrance is the accessibility of the people to search for good platforms and to use it well. Maybe, to solve that issue, they need first to learn how online gambling works.

Most of the people here are still not aware of technology. They may have gadgets but they still don't know how to use it properly, all they know is Facebook (lol). Even if they do know the online sabong, the internet connection here is very poor that is why it is not really recommended. Also, I think that they are more thrilled when they are playing cock fighting actually, because they'll be able to know if their cocks are good or no after all the breeding they've done in a period of time preparing for the fight.

Are you suggesting that the fighting is a way they determine whether their cocks are good or not?
Well, it depends on what you mean by "good". That shouldn't be a good way to determine whether chicken or other animals are good or not. I believe in an ideal/good world, where good humans rule over animals, they wouldn't be fighting each other.  They will live together in peace, harmony, good health, happiness etc

[hidden jutsu]

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

No,it is not. As you have said, they are just gambling because of their financial needs or personal reasons, it means that they are willing to risk their health because for them, it is worth it especially if they won. But as we can see, because they disregard the risk, and even the law, they need to face the consequences of losing more money by paying their fine.

[Questat]

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

No,it is not. As you have said, they are just gambling because of their financial needs or personal reasons, it means that they are willing to risk their health because for them, it is worth it especially if they won. But as we can see, because they disregard the risk, and even the law, they need to face the consequences of losing more money by paying their fine.

I think it's not right to assume that they are gambling for their financial needs as it's already proven that majority of the gamblers are losers, so gambling is indeed not a good way to make money. They aren't gambling to make a living, they are gambling to have fun, that's the main reason.

[yazher]

I think it's not right to assume that they are gambling for their financial needs as it's already proven that majority of the gamblers are losers, so gambling is indeed not a good way to make money. They aren't gambling to make a living, they are gambling to have fun, that's the main reason.

This is because their accompanying with the same people at their places who loves cock fighting even though it's not recommended to watch those two innocent creatures fighting with each other just because someone wants to have some entertainment. This is not the right way to have fun, You know? their fighting for death unlike in the boing where referees can stop the fight whenever the other fighter is in dangerous situation. In cock fighting one cock should be dead before the match will end.

[peter0425]

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

No,it is not. As you have said, they are just gambling because of their financial needs or personal reasons, it means that they are willing to risk their health because for them, it is worth it especially if they won. But as we can see, because they disregard the risk, and even the law, they need to face the consequences of losing more money by paying their fine.

even if they win but their Health is at risk,what if 10 of them become infected and shared with their family?is it in the governments concern and problem how to make them better?
because they will infect even more because of their stupidity?
social distancing must be implemented to prevent this kind of spread and if people continues to do such for sure the government will back the Lock down and tighten the laws that will make us more bored and awaits again.

[Janation]

In general they are not really seeking support from gambling, instead, they are just spending money.
What's worse to know is that our government made an effort to give financial support to the people, and yet some of them are just spending it in gambling.

So true, that is why it is annoying.

I don't understand that they are still wasting their money being spent on taking care of their roosters and at the end of the day it will end up being dead handing them to their opponents. While they could feed it to other people that are having a hard time finding a way to feed their families and even themselves. They really need to be taught about financial literacy.

[FlightyPouch]

even if they win but their Health is at risk,what if 10 of them become infected and shared with their family?is it in the governments concern and problem how to make them better?

Well, that is the worst thing to happen, you the most annoying part in that situation? Those people would be blaming the government about that, people would be scared of them so they would find a way to blame it all on the government, that is what they do. Then the government will be the one making an adjustment to those, that is the sad part. Hope they realize this before going on those "tupadas".

[carriebee]

In general they are not really seeking support from gambling, instead, they are just spending money.
What's worse to know is that our government made an effort to give financial support to the people, and yet some of them are just spending it in gambling.

So true, that is why it is annoying.

I don't understand that they are still wasting their money being spent on taking care of their roosters and at the end of the day it will end up being dead handing them to their opponents. While they could feed it to other people that are having a hard time finding a way to feed their families and even themselves. They really need to be taught about financial literacy.

These people are not stoppable even their health is at stake they cannot force to stop just to gamble. This is happening in our country wasting their money even their family has no food to eat in their table. They have the guts to complain in the government on taking action of this pandemic yet in terms of providing financial to the family is their second priority because their first focus is on betting their money in a cock fight.

[finaleshot2016]

In general they are not really seeking support from gambling, instead, they are just spending money.
What's worse to know is that our government made an effort to give financial support to the people, and yet some of them are just spending it in gambling.

So true, that is why it is annoying.

I don't understand that they are still wasting their money being spent on taking care of their roosters and at the end of the day it will end up being dead handing them to their opponents. While they could feed it to other people that are having a hard time finding a way to feed their families and even themselves. They really need to be taught about financial literacy.

Some people are dumb when it comes to money, they always think that the government will support them for lifetime. Those money came from the taxes which means it came from the people's hardwork while the other people who aren't really working hard are having a full support during pandemic which is kinda unfair.

Yes, it is our right to speakand voice out to the government our needs but sometimes it's nonsense because of this kind of people who spent money to gambling. They should filter out those people who aren't spending the money to necessities.

[Rodeo02]

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

No,it is not. As you have said, they are just gambling because of their financial needs or personal reasons, it means that they are willing to risk their health because for them, it is worth it especially if they won. But as we can see, because they disregard the risk, and even the law, they need to face the consequences of losing more money by paying their fine.

I think it's not right to assume that they are gambling for their financial needs as it's already proven that majority of the gamblers are losers, so gambling is indeed not a good way to make money. They aren't gambling to make a living, they are gambling to have fun, that's the main reason.

I understand this however why they need to gamble when they know that this countries is now in crisis because of the virus they need to also protect their self and family and not only thinking by it self to have fun. There are time that they can do that but not right now since the problem can be worsen if one of them became infected.

[Saint-loup]

Here in our province, even though we're under on what our Government so called "MGCQ" or Mandatory General Community Quarantine, any form of gambling is still prohibited. But yesterday, many people has been caught betting on cock fighting on an actual fight here in our province.

I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

AFAIK MGCQ is a Filipino measure. And 600$ is a huge fine in a poor country. So unfortunately I think Duterte is just still acting like what he is, a dictator.  

[Oilacris]

People who cant just understand these health protocols or restrictions neither they are poor or rich then they are really need to be penalized yet violation is always be a violation and theres no exception on that.

The penalty is not enough to instill fear to these people to follow, if more and more cases of this will happen, maybe it's time for them to revisit the rules and put more penalty so it will ensure that cases like this will be minimize, of course no law could fully eradicate this kind of behavior as gambling addiction will make gamblers find a way to gamble, no matter what.

As i said earlier this is a must thing because people would just simply ignore since they do know that they can pay out the fines or penalty unlike if they do set out
bigger ones which majority cant able to pay-off then that would surely make some doubts on proceeding if they would play or not.

It's not only the monetary penalty that they should look into, I think isn't like a real penalty, but just a bail because once you violate the law, you will have to serve a jail time for that, correct me if I'm wrong.

You arent wrong into that though but anything that you would pay for would really be just considered to be a penalty.It might really be not too a burden for some since they do had money but it would be still a good
way on stopping these kind of activities that really opposes on what had been restrict on.

If they do saw that monetary way of penalization doesnt work then thats the time they would apply on getting jailed for a certain duration and we do know that people are really scared off into this thing
which they would possibly follow if this one would be applied.

All decisions will vary on the situation if they cant able to control it out then they might be ending into that solution.

[Pamadar]

In gambling, it is not completely based on earning money and these people are probably just tired of the quarantine that has been implemented so far and basically everyone needs entertainment.

Some of those are after with entertainment, knowing that the country especially those from remote areas are very active
with this kind of gambling activities.

I personally strongly oppose going out of the house during this pandemic because it is still very risky and dangerous, and problems like this are basically about patience and awareness.

They are not just putting themselves to danger but also those people who lives with them, we know how dangerous this virus and how easy it can be trnferred.

Not only about violations regarding cockfighting gambling during the pandemic, because there are still many other activities that are desperate to do until they are caught and subject to sanctions or punishment, problems like this have occurred a lot and they are just impatient because they are bored and can't wait.

There are many people who are not believing until they'll find themselves being infected, the virus is just around and
leaving your house to do nothing shouldn't be tolerable.

[Google+]

In gambling, it is not completely based on earning money and these people are probably just tired of the quarantine that has been implemented so far and basically everyone needs entertainment. I personally strongly oppose going out of the house during this pandemic because it is still very risky and dangerous, and problems like this are basically about patience and awareness. Not only about violations regarding cockfighting gambling during the pandemic, because there are still many other activities that are desperate to do until they are caught and subject to sanctions or punishment, problems like this have occurred a lot and they are just impatient because they are bored and can't wait.

well, I also see that several large countries have implemented regulations that if they leave the house and carry out activities outside the home during a pandemic like this they will get sanctions and fines, we should be able to imitate how Japan can eradicate this virus quickly because its citizens are obedient against existing regulations so that the spread of covid is quickly over.

[arwin100]

In gambling, it is not completely based on earning money and these people are probably just tired of the quarantine that has been implemented so far and basically everyone needs entertainment. I personally strongly oppose going out of the house during this pandemic because it is still very risky and dangerous, and problems like this are basically about patience and awareness. Not only about violations regarding cockfighting gambling during the pandemic, because there are still many other activities that are desperate to do until they are caught and subject to sanctions or punishment, problems like this have occurred a lot and they are just impatient because they are bored and can't wait.

well, I also see that several large countries have implemented regulations that if they leave the house and carry out activities outside the home during a pandemic like this they will get sanctions and fines, we should be able to imitate how Japan can eradicate this virus quickly because its citizens are obedient against existing regulations so that the spread of covid is quickly over.

Though its good to follow what japan do but unfortunately the other citizens on third world country cannot follow it due to financial reason some other strive to get money for daily living and it became worst when pandemic hit since many cannot work and they cannot provide food for their family that's why even if its risky many will go out just to find money and this is sad reality here.

[maydna]

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even they are no a online gambling, some of them will not take a part for this kind of gambling. Because they are thinking about their hobbies to gambling face to face with other players. We are can't stop them take the risk of their health and life. Another reason, they may still play in traditional gambling is they are doesn't interest in online gambling.

But for the young generation 25 years old above which know about online gambling, they will choose online gambling than offline gambling because they can play anywhere they want. They don't want to risk their health and lives to just playing gambling, and they will take care of their health by playing from home. We can't stop them, but I am sure they will have awareness if the virus still out there and risk their lives.

Not all countries allow traditional gambling to reopen because of the case of the infection still at high. The government won't take a risk by reopening the crowded place without applying the health protocols.

[coin-investor]

AFAIK MGCQ is a Filipino measure. And 600$ is a huge fine in a poor country. So unfortunately I think Duterte is just still acting like what he is, a dictator.  

I'm not a big fan of Duterte but if you check the number of CoVid infected the numbers is not going down, it never went down and as of this writing it is going 300k and still growing, the government should impose this or the hospitals will not be able to keep up anymore our health sectors are having too much and they are working straight 16 hours daily.

[peter0425]

AFAIK MGCQ is a Filipino measure. And 600$ is a huge fine in a poor country. So unfortunately I think Duterte is just still acting like what he is, a dictator.  

I'm not a big fan of Duterte but if you check the number of CoVid infected the numbers is not going down, it never went down and as of this writing it is going 300k and still growing, the government should impose this or the hospitals will not be able to keep up anymore our health sectors are having too much and they are working straight 16 hours daily.

We don't need to be a Fan of the President but we need to be aware of the Virus and what the government is doing to help save us all.
This is not politics but purely Humanities.
There are thousand dying and almost hundred everyday so people must obey what the authorities are saying now.
Let us not argue or do unnecessary because in the end?it is us who will benefits from this.

[bryant.coleman]

But for the young generation 25 years old above which know about online gambling, they will choose online gambling than offline gambling because they can play anywhere they want. They don't want to risk their health and lives to just playing gambling, and they will take care of their health by playing from home. We can't stop them, but I am sure they will have awareness if the virus still out there and risk their lives.

Physical casinos are not very popular with the younger people. The older generation want to go out and interact with other people, while most of the younger people stay glued to their smartphones and laptops, and rarely interact with anyone other than machines. Now coming to cock fighting, it is something that can't be done online. This tradition is thousands of years old, and those who don't know about it should not be critical about it.

[Ucy]

I think it's not right to assume that they are gambling for their financial needs as it's already proven that majority of the gamblers are losers, so gambling is indeed not a good way to make money. They aren't gambling to make a living, they are gambling to have fun, that's the main reason.

This is because their accompanying with the same people at their places who loves cock fighting even though it's not recommended to watch those two innocent creatures fighting with each other just because someone wants to have some entertainment. This is not the right way to have fun, You know? their fighting for death unlike in the boing where referees can stop the fight whenever the other fighter is in dangerous situation. In cock fighting one cock should be dead before the match will end.

Oh, the "cock fighting entertainment" is really a fight to death thing? Really shocking. ..And the government even allow this to happen.
Not just the country though, I have seen similar battle (involving human and cow) years ago where I live. I'm not sure if it's fight to death battle, still not a thing to encourage or allow.

[blockman]

AFAIK MGCQ is a Filipino measure. And 600$ is a huge fine in a poor country. So unfortunately I think Duterte is just still acting like what he is, a dictator.  

$600 is such a huge amount but it's not about the president being a dictator or not. But it's all about how people responded on the rules set by the government during this pandemic. Settling the political debate, it's the people having no discipline in this hard time.

We don't need to be a Fan of the President but we need to be aware of the Virus and what the government is doing to help save us all.
This is not politics but purely Humanities.
There are thousand dying and almost hundred everyday so people must obey what the authorities are saying now.
Let us not argue or do unnecessary because in the end?it is us who will benefits from this.

This is right. Not about politics but it's the people who are careless in this pandemic. While the majority are trying to keep ourselves in our homes to avoid the spread. Meanwhile these people don't care about the spread and being a potential virus carrier.

[LogitechMouse]

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What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

When people doesn't have any money anymore or at least they want more money, they will rather use it for gambling than using it in a good way like putting a small business or the like.

My thoughts about this?? F*ck them.. Let them do what they want to do. They aren't kids anymore that hasn't have minds to use. If they want to risk their health and choose to gamble then let them do it. The problem right now with our countrymen is that they don't know how to cooperate with the government and they will rant online if they see something wrong.

Risking your health for the small profits isn't worth it and its already obvious. Possible reasons why they did this is that they are bored possibly or they want to earn money thru gambling so that they have money to use for their every day lives.

[FlightyPouch]

even if they win but their Health is at risk,what if 10 of them become infected and shared with their family?is it in the governments concern and problem how to make them better?

Well, that is the worst thing to happen, you the most annoying part in that situation? Those people would be blaming the government about that, people would be scared of them so they would find a way to blame it all on the government, that is what they do. Then the government will be the one making an adjustment to those, that is the sad part. Hope they realize this before going on those "tupadas".

The problem is that you can't force people to stay inside forever. It has been almost 6 months since the lockdown came in to effect here (in India) and now people just want to go out and relax themselves even if that means that there is a higher chance of putting them at risk. For how long you want them to stay inside and refrain from entertainment? The pharma companies are saying that a vaccine may not be available for another 12 months.

I am not saying that they can't entertain themselves, but can they just follow the safety protocols? Can they just follow the law of not doing these cockfighting which is still banned? They can do anything to entertain themselves as long as they are following the protocols, They could relax, bond with their family, does it really need to be cockfighting?

[masulum]

But for the young generation 25 years old above which know about online gambling, they will choose online gambling than offline gambling because they can play anywhere they want. They don't want to risk their health and lives to just playing gambling, and they will take care of their health by playing from home. We can't stop them, but I am sure they will have awareness if the virus still out there and risk their lives.
-snip-

Different countries have different mindsets, here it doesn't matter old or young, only a few people believe in this pandemic, most of them think that Coronavirus is nothing. So that most of them are still doing cockfighting in hidden places. Apart from that, online betting with Cockfighting is very different, they cannot play this kind of bet online. To this day, I have never seen any online cockfighting bet found (CMIIW).

[AicecreaME]

As far as I know, they are illegal if people will not be doing that on a licensed cockpit,......

No, you can't apply that rules in the pandemic, not only cock fighting is not allowed but all sort of gambling as it gathers masses that would be prone to passing the virus among the people. So even if you do in a legal venue but the act itself is prohibited, you are still doing an illegal activity.

I agree but there are those people that do meetups(tupada) to cockfight in some places here.

Tupada is illegal and the fact that we are still in a pandemic means that it will be more of a hefty payment. I don't know what's going on with them since they are afraid of the virus but not afraid to do these meetups(tupadas) with other people that might carry the virus.

Adrenaline rush is the reason why they don't care if they are doing illegal. I mean, they all know that they might get caught so automatically they'll have their adrenaline rushing through their bodies while they are conducting their cock fighting scenario. About the COVID-19, I think they are just too confident that they will not get infected by the disease because there are no active case here in our baranggay (who knows).

[target]

Families below te working class live everyday like it's their last so having an extra money of about $6 can already take them to places like betting on Tupada, buy a long neck brandy to enjoy worry free life. If they double the $6 after betting, the more they enjoy the night maybe wampipti shabu too.  They will only worry after they get infected by the virus so as for now, enjoying is what matters.

[Pamadar]

But for the young generation 25 years old above which know about online gambling, they will choose online gambling than offline gambling because they can play anywhere they want. They don't want to risk their health and lives to just playing gambling, and they will take care of their health by playing from home. We can't stop them, but I am sure they will have awareness if the virus still out there and risk their lives.
-snip-

Different countries have different mindsets, here it doesn't matter old or young, only a few people believe in this pandemic, most of them think that Coronavirus is nothing. So that most of them are still doing cockfighting in hidden places. Apart from that, online betting with Cockfighting is very different, they cannot play this kind of bet online. To this day, I have never seen any online cockfighting bet found (CMIIW).

The enjoyment is different and most of those people who gamble from this types of betting are also people who likes having their own fighting cock.
They are managing to take care of their cock even in time of this pandemic, they are more concern with it than taking care of their households, funny but those who been caught are really people who are not afraid of this virus they are more after the enjoyment
than thinking of the risk of being affected of this virus.

[MFahad]

But for the young generation 25 years old above which know about online gambling, they will choose online gambling than offline gambling because they can play anywhere they want. They don't want to risk their health and lives to just playing gambling, and they will take care of their health by playing from home. We can't stop them, but I am sure they will have awareness if the virus still out there and risk their lives.
-snip-

Different countries have different mindsets, here it doesn't matter old or young, only a few people believe in this pandemic, most of them think that Coronavirus is nothing. So that most of them are still doing cockfighting in hidden places. Apart from that, online betting with Cockfighting is very different, they cannot play this kind of bet online. To this day, I have never seen any online cockfighting bet found (CMIIW).

Cock fighting is popular only is few particular areas and not everyone knows about it too. Since cock fighting tournaments are mostly held in backward areas with no live coverage, they cannot be listed on online gambling sites. I am sure few locals may be betting offline on these fights too.

[electronicash]

But for the young generation 25 years old above which know about online gambling, they will choose online gambling than offline gambling because they can play anywhere they want. They don't want to risk their health and lives to just playing gambling, and they will take care of their health by playing from home. We can't stop them, but I am sure they will have awareness if the virus still out there and risk their lives.
-snip-

Different countries have different mindsets, here it doesn't matter old or young, only a few people believe in this pandemic, most of them think that Coronavirus is nothing. So that most of them are still doing cockfighting in hidden places. Apart from that, online betting with Cockfighting is very different, they cannot play this kind of bet online. To this day, I have never seen any online cockfighting bet found (CMIIW).

Cock fighting is popular only is few particular areas and not everyone knows about it too. Since cock fighting tournaments are mostly held in backward areas with no live coverage, they cannot be listed on online gambling sites. I am sure few locals may be betting offline on these fights too.

everyone bet on this. when you stay in area far from the city, there is nothing left to do but socialize with what the people knew. the local have different things to do to pass time. people who bet on cockfighting will sure bet also on spider match.

but there is an online betting for this, you might be interested to download their app to bet. you can search "online sabong" i'm sure you will find it.

[Quidat]

But for the young generation 25 years old above which know about online gambling, they will choose online gambling than offline gambling because they can play anywhere they want. They don't want to risk their health and lives to just playing gambling, and they will take care of their health by playing from home. We can't stop them, but I am sure they will have awareness if the virus still out there and risk their lives.
-snip-

Different countries have different mindsets, here it doesn't matter old or young, only a few people believe in this pandemic, most of them think that Coronavirus is nothing. So that most of them are still doing cockfighting in hidden places. Apart from that, online betting with Cockfighting is very different, they cannot play this kind of bet online. To this day, I have never seen any online cockfighting bet found (CMIIW).

Cock fighting is popular only is few particular areas and not everyone knows about it too. Since cock fighting tournaments are mostly held in backward areas with no live coverage, they cannot be listed on online gambling sites. I am sure few locals may be betting offline on these fights too.

everyone bet on this. when you stay in area far from the city, there is nothing left to do but socialize with what the people knew. the local have different things to do to pass time. people who bet on cockfighting will sure bet also on spider match.

but there is an online betting for this, you might be interested to download their app to bet. you can search "online sabong" i'm sure you will find it.

Im pretty much aware of this online sabong that you do say which is way more better rather than going to the actual cockpit arena for you to see the fight but
we know the health risk if we do able to do so.So far i havent tried up that online sabong on how it do work when it comes to betting and for the payouts
yet its totally different when you are actually betting when you do watch live.I cant really believe that there were people whom do choose to still play
even on this pandemic situation. If there are rules that do prohibit crowd then people should really follow.

[abel1337]

even if they win but their Health is at risk,what if 10 of them become infected and shared with their family?is it in the governments concern and problem how to make them better?

Well, that is the worst thing to happen, you the most annoying part in that situation? Those people would be blaming the government about that, people would be scared of them so they would find a way to blame it all on the government, that is what they do. Then the government will be the one making an adjustment to those, that is the sad part. Hope they realize this before going on those "tupadas".

The problem is that you can't force people to stay inside forever. It has been almost 6 months since the lockdown came in to effect here (in India) and now people just want to go out and relax themselves even if that means that there is a higher chance of putting them at risk. For how long you want them to stay inside and refrain from entertainment? The pharma companies are saying that a vaccine may not be available for another 12 months.

I am not saying that they can't entertain themselves, but can they just follow the safety protocols? Can they just follow the law of not doing these cockfighting which is still banned? They can do anything to entertain themselves as long as they are following the protocols, They could relax, bond with their family, does it really need to be cockfighting?

We really can't control people in doing stuff like this, Even if it can be dangerous to their health or whether it is an illegal act in their country. We know this cockfighting wouldn't be happening if there aren't organizers that make this event. I think they are the ones who should be blamed for. I think those cockfighting gamblers are having itchy hands in betting on their cocks to fight so they can't wait. It's just there are some people who don't take this pandemic seriously and don't know the harm it can bring to them and their surroundings if they are infected. They aren't scared at all they just want to satisfy their own needs.

[Twentyonepaylots]

everyone bet on this. when you stay in area far from the city, there is nothing left to do but socialize with what the people knew. the local have different things to do to pass time. people who bet on cockfighting will sure bet also on spider match.

I have watched a live cockfighting but it was not held in cockfight arena tho, but I must say that it is driven by the culture of a country, people knowing less of technology will surely love things within their area just like this. I never experienced betting on a cockfight, coz I think it is really a luck game, there is no better cock just a matter on who strikes first, I guess 

but there is an online betting for this, you might be interested to download their app to bet. you can search "online sabong" i'm sure you will find it.

Probably from the Philippines because of the word 'sabong' , or maybe from Spain coz they influenced Philippines too. Would love to try this even once.

[livingfree]

They will only worry after they get infected by the virus so as for now, enjoying is what matters.

Everyone will if they knew that they were already infected and becomes a carrier. What does it take to be a carrier? self quarantines, medication, expensive medication with the expensive hospital bills.

They haven't thought of it but they want to gamble in the midst of the pandemic.

[masulum]

They are managing to take care of their cock even in time of this pandemic, they are more concern with it than taking care of their households, funny but those who been caught are really people who are not afraid of this virus they are more after the enjoyment
than thinking of the risk of being affected of this virus.

Haha, this is true, I see my nephew take care of his cock everyday, he doing more better than himself. I don't know what he think, and yes lot of people will do everything to make sure his cock health and always ready to fight.

I never experienced betting on a cockfight, coz I think it is really a luck game, there is no better cock just a matter on who strikes first, I guess 

Yes, we can't analyzed the cock, even in the past won some fight. Here, winner will be chosen when cock owner gave up, or too much bleeding. So its very different with football bet, poker that we can make a decision with analyze and strategy.

[dunfida]

They will only worry after they get infected by the virus so as for now, enjoying is what matters.

Everyone will if they knew that they were already infected and becomes a carrier. What does it take to be a carrier? self quarantines, medication, expensive medication with the expensive hospital bills.

They haven't thought of it but they want to gamble in the midst of the pandemic.

They wouldnt regret nor mind it off first until they do get infected and when things gets messy specially on financial aspect because hospitalization is costly then this is where regrets do come out that they shouldnt have played nor visit out of the crowd just to fill out their gambling addiction.People are very hard headed even if they do know that virus is very highly contagious but still they do ignore just for them to play.
Im not saying that all are just like that but there are people who dont really care until they do get infected. Violation fees or penalties should really be set out high same as others been suggesting.

[maydna]

~snip~

Physical casinos are not very popular with the younger people. The older generation want to go out and interact with other people, while most of the younger people stay glued to their smartphones and laptops, and rarely interact with anyone other than machines. Now coming to cock fighting, it is something that can't be done online. This tradition is thousands of years old, and those who don't know about it should not be critical about it.

The young generation rarely interacts with others except for their friends because they are too busy with their gadget. It is not just in cockfighting, but it happens in other traditional gambling games which have a place in a local city.

It is the risk of technology growth, and if the young generation is not taught about local culture, so when they grow up, they don't know about that. Many others of local culture that has been forgetting by the young generation and that is not just about traditional gambling.

~snip~

Different countries have different mindsets, here it doesn't matter old or young, only a few people believe in this pandemic, most of them think that Coronavirus is nothing. So that most of them are still doing cockfighting in hidden places. Apart from that, online betting with Cockfighting is very different, they cannot play this kind of bet online. To this day, I have never seen any online cockfighting bet found (CMIIW).

People who don't believe this pandemic will see it is real once they got infect, and they will regret it because they underestimate the virus. Usually, in some city which cockfighting is popular, people will play in hidden places, but that will not safe for them if they don't apply the health protocols from the government. But it seems, people don't care about health protocols. They don't' use social distance.

[FlightyPouch]

We really can't control people in doing stuff like this, Even if it can be dangerous to their health or whether it is an illegal act in their country. We know this cockfighting wouldn't be happening if there aren't organizers that make this event. I think they are the ones who should be blamed for. I think those cockfighting gamblers are having itchy hands in betting on their cocks to fight so they can't wait. It's just there are some people who don't take this pandemic seriously and don't know the harm it can bring to them and their surroundings if they are infected. They aren't scared at all they just want to satisfy their own needs.

Well, the organizers are themselves though. The cockfighting that I am saying is widely known to our country as "tupada" or like a meetup where people would talk about meeting in a place and held their cockfighting there. So saying that the organizers wil be blamed, it is them to be blamed because it is them that organized it at the first place.

[pilosopotasyo]

I support our president's initiative to fined or even send these people to jail so they will serve their lessons and people will take the President's action and orders seriously the Philippines has a very high number of infection because of the people's disobedience and lack of disciple it cannot continue or all our hospitals will be closed for lack of beds for new infected, something that the government does not want to happen.

[Golftech]

I support our president's initiative to fined or even send these people to jail so they will serve their lessons and people will take the President's action and orders seriously the Philippines has a very high number of infection because of the people's disobedience and lack of disciple it cannot continue or all our hospitals will be closed for lack of beds for new infected, something that the government does not want to happen.

The Problem about this Guerilla type of Cock Fighting isthat even before the pandemic and Duterte steps in Malacanang this Illegal gambling is already existing.
There are Cops that tolerating this because they are being paid
just to let this operate and not being disturbed.That is the reason why These people are consistent and seems like not afraid of being Fined or Jailed
and this is reality.
and the hardest part now is the Virus in which they can accumulate getting close to other gamblers in cock scene.

[Janation]

I support our president's initiative to fined or even send these people to jail so they will serve their lessons and people will take the President's action and orders seriously the Philippines has a very high number of infection because of the people's disobedience and lack of disciple it cannot continue or all our hospitals will be closed for lack of beds for new infected, something that the government does not want to happen.

I think it is not that they disrespect or do not want to follow the President.

Its been months since we are in this -CQ series and I think people are really itching to do things they usually do. I guess they can't just contain their urges to gamble that is why they've done that.

[FlightyPouch]

I support our president's initiative to fined or even send these people to jail so they will serve their lessons and people will take the President's action and orders seriously the Philippines has a very high number of infection because of the people's disobedience and lack of disciple it cannot continue or all our hospitals will be closed for lack of beds for new infected, something that the government does not want to happen.

But those people being disobedient and lack of discipline is not because of gambling, but because it is the nature of them though I agree that the government is really shouldering what is happening even though it is their fault or not. But another thing is that we can't actually stop these guys so all of this will fall to the hands of those people gambling.

[livingfree]

They will only worry after they get infected by the virus so as for now, enjoying is what matters.

Everyone will if they knew that they were already infected and becomes a carrier. What does it take to be a carrier? self quarantines, medication, expensive medication with the expensive hospital bills.

They haven't thought of it but they want to gamble in the midst of the pandemic.

They wouldnt regret nor mind it off first until they do get infected and when things gets messy specially on financial aspect because hospitalization is costly then this is where regrets do come out that they shouldnt have played nor visit out of the crowd just to fill out their gambling addiction.People are very hard headed even if they do know that virus is very highly contagious but still they do ignore just for them to play.
Im not saying that all are just like that but there are people who dont really care until they do get infected. Violation fees or penalties should really be set out high same as others been suggesting.

Regret is always in the end.

They will only realize that those warnings and health protocols are very much important once some of those attendees on that mass gambling event will start to feel the symptoms. Although I'm not wishing it.

But mostly in the news, the infection happens mostly in crowded areas.