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August 30, 2020, 08:54:58 AM |
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Yesterday there was a massive protest in Berlin, Germany against the draconian measures taken by the govt against the citizens. In Lonodn yesterday a similar protest took place in Trafalgar Square.
There were already protests in the Netherlands, Ireland and other countries - all calling for the governments to stop the lockdown, stop issuing fines against those who don't want to wear a mask and most importantly - stop lying to the public with fabricated numbers about "new cases" etc.
This is not a pandemic, by all means.
Is the virus real? Yes, it's real - but panic is not the answer.
Lockdowns are not the answer. Masks are not the answer.
What would it take for the world to change its stance against the Coronavirus?
It seems like it was so easy to brainwash so many people and make them believe as if we're dealing with apocalypse here -
Well, the apocalypse is how the governments are terrorizing people's lives.
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August 30, 2020, 09:08:35 AM |
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b]stop lying to the public with fabricated numbers about "new cases" etc.[/b]
They indeed lie about the case numbers in where I live. Also mayors of 2 of our biggest cities said the actual case&death numbers are greater than the official numbers. My own experiences everyday confirm this too. Many governments lie about the numbers (not the US, Brazil and India and a few others) What the hell actually happened in China and they stopped reporting any case numbers? Did they really win against covid19? Did they run out of old people? China reported only 9 new cases lol. You are a fool if you believe that. Just checked Spain and I see they still report thousands of new cases but for some reason, they didn't report any cases yesterday. Anyway, if you think covid19 is a hoax, why don't you go to the nearest hospital and lick a patient?
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August 30, 2020, 09:42:50 AM |
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Yesterday there was a massive protest in Berlin, Germany against the draconian measures taken by the govt against the citizens. In Lonodn yesterday a similar protest took place in Trafalgar Square.
There were already protests in the Netherlands, Ireland and other countries - all calling for the governments to stop the lockdown, stop issuing fines against those who don't want to wear a mask and most importantly - stop lying to the public with fabricated numbers about "new cases" etc.
This is not a pandemic, by all means.
Is the virus real? Yes, it's real - but panic is not the answer.
Lockdowns are not the answer. Masks are not the answer.
What would it take for the world to change its stance against the Coronavirus?
It seems like it was so easy to brainwash so many people and make them believe as if we're dealing with apocalypse here -
Well, the apocalypse is how the governments are terrorizing people's lives.
If lockdown and mask is not the answer then what is, you mean we have to go out and think that this Covid is nothing I think you are the one brainwashing the people that mask is not the answer when it is, why not go out and do not wear a mask and lets in a matter of weeks if you are not infected, it's ok to wear mask it's a proven way to keep the virus from spreading.
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August 30, 2020, 09:49:35 AM |
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stop lying to the public with fabricated numbers about "new cases" etc.
This is not a pandemic, by all means.
Is the virus real? Yes, it's real - but panic is not the answer.
Lockdowns are not the answer. Masks are not the answer.
Governments did not want to implement lockdowns, because of the economic damage they cause. This is why most (all?) countries brought in lockdowns too late, they waited and waited in the hope the virus would just go away. Of course if they'd just put in an early quarantine system for new entrants, lockdowns would not have been necessary. Governments do care about the lives of their citizens, but they care far more about the economy. Lockdowns were a last resort, not a desired outcome. They were implemented because the alternative was no lockdown, pandemic running wild, overrun health system, many many more deaths and, the most important government consideration, even more economic damage. Why do you think a government would implement a lockdown if there was no need to do so? It's not a compelling conspiracy theory if there is no-one who benefits. What would it take for the world to change its stance against the Coronavirus?
Evidence.
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August 30, 2020, 10:05:20 AM |
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Yesterday there was a massive protest in Berlin, Germany against the draconian measures taken by the govt against the citizens. In Lonodn yesterday a similar protest took place in Trafalgar Square.
There were already protests in the Netherlands, Ireland and other countries - all calling for the governments to stop the lockdown, stop issuing fines against those who don't want to wear a mask and most importantly - stop lying to the public with fabricated numbers about "new cases" etc.
In this part you have Mentioned the Protest but how many people are there in protest?how much are against and how many are in favor?the problem with you people is your are looking Only for your benefits but what about the whole country or the whole community you represent?they have lives too and they can die with this Virus,If you are not afraid of dying or being infected Well Majority of the people does so please Listen to others and not for your own sentiments. This is not a pandemic, by all means.
Is the virus real? Yes, it's real - but panic is not the answer.
Since you admit that Birus is real then i am telling you Government is not panicking instead they are doing is preventive measures for this virus not to spread more and that is the part that your are denying them to Do. Lockdowns are not the answer. Masks are not the answer.
So what you wanted?Living normal while there are Spreads?while the infected is doubling each month? Sorry mate but People like you and other protesters are not helping in this situation. What would it take for the world to change its stance against the Coronavirus?
It seems like it was so easy to brainwash so many people and make them believe as if we're dealing with apocalypse here -
Well, the apocalypse is how the governments are terrorizing people's lives.
You will change your mind once Your own family members got infected and Hoping not to comes worst,Because we are aware of the consequences thats why we are following what the government are ordering us and besides can't you see?this is happening the whole world andd not Only in few countries so please bear with this.
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August 30, 2020, 02:51:08 PM |
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What would it take for the world to change its stance against the Coronavirus?
It seems like it was so easy to brainwash so many people and make them believe as if we're dealing with apocalypse here -
Well, the apocalypse is how the governments are terrorizing people's lives.
You will change your mind once Your own family members got infected and Hoping not to comes worst,Because we are aware of the consequences thats why we are following what the government are ordering us and besides can't you see?this is happening the whole world andd not Only in few countries so please bear with this. Not when we know that it was government and the medical that made them sick in the first place through previous, poisonous vaccines and medicine and pollution. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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August 30, 2020, 03:30:46 PM |
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There are protests like that in other countries as well. Corrupt politicians make money manipulating the marke. One month they say we don't need to stay at home or wear masks, then we need to stay at home or we'll be fined, even put in jail, then it's again all fine, no need to stay at home but we have to wear masks, then suddenly we don't have to wear masks anywhere but inside stores and offices... At the same time people who buy those masks in China and import them make millions.
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August 30, 2020, 07:57:21 PM |
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The biggest Coronavirus lie is that there is a Covid virus. The bigger lie is that there are any viruses at all! Start at 37 minutes, and watch for 10 minutes - https://www.andrewkaufmanmd.com/vids/Hippocratic%20Hypocrisy.m4v. If you don't understand it, get somebody who as a bit of technical, medical training to listen. Then find something to contradict what Dr. Kaufman says... something that truly contradicts with verifiable chemical, medical, research info. Then let me know about where that "something" can be found, and I will see that Dr. Kaufman is informed. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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August 30, 2020, 09:46:10 PM |
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The truth about the whole thing is, the numbers are fabricated just to scare people. No doubt the pandemic is very real but the actual count remains unknown. Though, we understand the intentions behind the fabricated numbers but, the masses have got to know the truth.
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August 30, 2020, 10:06:41 PM |
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I think we're all with the same sentiment about the number of cases. While the epicenter of the virus has been calmed down. Why is it that there's no sharing of how they've extinguished the virus and there's even a pool party just to proclaim they were able to overcome the pandemic.
And the rest of the world is still struggling with growing cases every day. I have no problem wearing masks going outside because I have my mask ready when I travel before the pandemic occurred.
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August 31, 2020, 08:51:05 AM |
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The truth about the whole thing is, the numbers are fabricated just to scare people. No doubt the pandemic is very real but the actual count remains unknown. Though, we understand the intentions behind the fabricated numbers but, the masses have got to know the truth.
In fact, it is possible that the data graph of pandemic exposure is not very correct, but this can make the public more respectful and concerned about the fact that this pandemic cannot be taken lightly. because the transmission that occurs is quite scary because it is too easy, what is feared is that someone is sick but he does not feel it and ends up transmitting to other people. the problem may be that for young people with good immunity they don't have much of an impact at all, but what we are afraid of is that when someone already has congenital disease and is old enough, it will certainly have a fatal impact if infection occurs to him.
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Some of you guys are starting to sound like that Jet Cash character, and he is under attack for noy accepting the Anglophone empire narrative, and trying to fins out the real facts for himself. It isn't the number of infections that matter, despite the government fear mongering. I believe that all of the developed nations, and most of the others, will eventually end up with all of the population being infected. The good news is that the virus in itself is not life threatening ,and as evidence if this, you don't see people dying like flies in the street. This means that the numbers of infected are heavily manipulated, and almost certainly under reported. They still haven't got an accurate testing system for those who have been infected by the virus, and have gained long term immunity. The most frightening thing about the virus is the emerging government actions that purport to be in our interests, but seem to be aimed at wealth transfer,and the expansion of the Anglophone Empire's eugenics programme.
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August 31, 2020, 10:33:32 AM |
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getting low dose contact by social distancing and wearing masks means you will get infected at some point but with such a low dose you wont have to battle it much
idiots like jetcash(who is also kuffy under his other username) is not trying to find out facts. instead he is trying to get people to actually lick other peoples faces and get high dose infections
jetcash doesnt care about health. nor does he care about economy. he avoid independant small business retailers and prefers to hand money to the big national chains.
his problem is that while people are social distancing/working from home. he cant run his scrap metal business because there is less strap being requested to be removed.
he wants people to start interacting normally so that he can make money. and thats it.
the virus is real and although with social distancing and masks the rate at which those infected end up going to hospital has dropped due to the low dose infection rate
(in march it was 33% hospital risk for some. now its ~10% risk of hospitalisation) so it proves that social distancing and masks do work
we seen that in may-june a rise in cases happened due to idiots gathering together and protesting, increasing the risk this was mainly due to daily protests meaning a sick person gathering near 20 people in a cluster thus making 7people sick enough. and doing this for 5 days meaning 1 person making 35 people sick and combined 100 asymptomatically infected
which caused spikes in june-july there were spikes in different places that mainly had airports. where sick people were on planes passing it onto other passengers
.. i say all this because i f there is too much high dose infection due to close proximity. more people end up in hospital. and if more people end up in hospital there becomes a critical point where hospitals cant cope and a full lockdown is needed.
so if you want to live without constant lockdowns. if you want to reduce the hospitalisations. if you want to not have to think about a vaccine.. then be smart and think of ways to protect yourself and others from high dose infection.. keep your distance and stay safe
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August 31, 2020, 10:46:17 AM |
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Some of you guys are starting to sound like that Jet Cash character, and he is under attack for noy accepting the Anglophone empire narrative, and trying to fins out the real facts for himself. It isn't the number of infections that matter, despite the government fear mongering. I believe that all of the developed nations, and most of the others, will eventually end up with all of the population being infected. The good news is that the virus in itself is not life threatening ,and as evidence if this, you don't see people dying like flies in the street. This means that the numbers of infected are heavily manipulated, and almost certainly under reported. They still haven't got an accurate testing system for those who have been infected by the virus, and have gained long term immunity. The most frightening thing about the virus is the emerging government actions that purport to be in our interests, but seem to be aimed at wealth transfer,and the expansion of the Anglophone Empire's eugenics programme.
whatever you say may be a separate perception and you can assume that this virus is not as dangerous as expected and I don't understand why there are still many who believe that this is a conspiracy that happened. in my country there have been many medical workers who are directly related to the pandemic who have experienced fatal things and it is helpless how should I tell that this is a lie. These medical personnel are not arbitrary, he is a young husband and wife doctor, with lung specialists who have devoted themselves to being able to handle the pandemic voluntarily at a special covid-19 referral hospital, and he ended up contracting and not being helped and his wife is still being treated. and of course many other similar medical personnel, how could this be a lie, I can't say anymore if this is said to be a lie just because I want to find sensations.
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August 31, 2020, 10:59:50 AM |
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I think we're all with the same sentiment about the number of cases. While the epicenter of the virus has been calmed down. Why is it that there's no sharing of how they've extinguished the virus and there's even a pool party just to proclaim they were able to overcome the pandemic.
wuhan locked down its domestic flights in febuary (US/UK didnt take the hint and instead done repatriation flights to bring it to america/UK) wuhan implemented social distancing and created hospitals in february (US/UK didnt. they waited to march/april) wuhan implements track and trace to find out all the people the sick came into contact with and put those on self isolation for 14 days US/UK didnt. UK is kind if doing it but with only 60% success rate. and only from june onwards if they implemented all of this in february US/UK would have been able to do just social distancing+track and trace without the need of the lockdown for 4+months wuhan managed to not have any cases fr a few months due to the hard work involved so they celebrated it. plus the pool party was for one day so it was not a continuous infection risk every day that would go out of control. UK/US do daily gatherings thus someone sick on day 1. is passing it on day 2 3 4 5 the people on day one that got infected. gets sick on day 3 and passes it on day 3 4 5 the person on day two that got infected. gets sick on day 4 and passes it on day 4 5 and so on so that 1 person on day one making ~25 infected and 7 sick so that 1 person on day two making ~25 infected and 7 sick so the 8 people on day three making ~200 infected and 56 sick so the 16 people on day four making ~400 infected and 112 sick so the 74 people on day five making ~1850 infected and 647 sick yep they estimate that at a protest. has a protester within proximity to ~20 people with a 33% high dose risk (7 people really close for long periods of time a day) so yea if those same people keep going to daily protests every day for a week. the numbers rise quite fast however if they had true 'peaceful protests' respecting persona space. the rate would not be 1 infecter making 7 sick. butonly 2 sick and if those only went to one protest that week instead of 5 the numbers would be only a dozen. not over 600 .. so if you want to actually protest. do not squeeze 10k into a street. spread out. stay safe keep respect for eachothers personal space. and guess what. you can cover 20km of road with just 10k people this is much better . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . is better than this :::: :::: just look at the amount of streets you can block up id organised
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August 31, 2020, 05:26:28 PM |
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getting low dose contact by social distancing and wearing masks means you will get infected at some point but with such a low dose you wont have to battle it much
idiots like jetcash(who is also kuffy under his other username) is not trying to find out facts. instead he is trying to get people to actually lick other peoples faces and get high dose infections
Lol. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Ask yourself this. Since viruses aren't really alive, why are there more than one virus at all? Don't they multiply in the cells of your body? And isn't it a fact that they are commandeering your body to multiply?... if you believe all that virus theory junk, that is? Do you want to get rid of viruses in yourself? Do a suicide number. That's the only way. You make your own viruses. They multiply, multiply, multiply... if you believe all that virus theory crap, that is. However, if your immune system can keep the number of them down, why do we need medicine or vaccines? After all, when you use medicine or vaccines, your body is weakened because it has to fight them as well as the virus. You talk against what you say, franky1.![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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oh badecker how silly are you yet again viruses are invaders. they are not natural to your body which is why you need an immune system to fight them off. i know your probably reading some weird conspiracy made by a cancer exdoctor who is trying to get an income from doing conspiracy tours. but viruses are not cancers
when you are over loaded with viruses its a heck of a fight your immune system has to put up. when its a virus not seen before due to it being a new strain. this is even more of a battle to fight because you need to train your immune system for this new strain
if the immune system recognised it as a virus thats been around seasonally then yes your immune system could 'keep it down' by reacting as soon as it seen it. but with new strains guess what. your body only reacts when the virus is doing damage. to realise the virus is a dangerous invader
if your immune response just reacted to anything you inhaled you would be worse. because every breath of air is not pure oxygen, its got lots of lil stuff in it. so reacting to anything thats not oxygen would be harmful your immune system only reacts when your body is being harmed and when it knows how to deal with it
so again the safest bet is to not allow high dose viral load to enter your body in the first place
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oh badecker how silly are you yet again viruses are invaders. they are not natural to your body which is why you need an immune system to fight them off. i know your probably reading some weird conspiracy made by a cancer exdoctor who is trying to get an income from doing conspiracy tours. but viruses are not cancers
when you are over loaded with viruses its a heck of a fight your immune system has to put up. when its a virus not seen before due to it being a new strain. this is even more of a battle to fight because you need to train your immune system for this new strain
if the immune system recognised it as a virus thats been around seasonally then yes your immune system could 'keep it down' by reacting as soon as it seen it. but with new strains guess what. your body only reacts when the virus is doing damage. to realise the virus is a dangerous invader
if your immune response just reacted to anything you inhaled you would be worse. because every breath of air is not pure oxygen, its got lots of lil stuff in it. so reacting to anything thats not oxygen would be harmful your immune system only reacts when your body is being harmed and when it knows how to deal with it
so again the safest bet is to not allow high dose viral load to enter your body in the first place
Except that nobody has proven anything that you say. It's all a story that has been built up over decades. It is based on assumptions as to what is going on with some invisible particles that have only been seen acting since the advent of the Microsphere Nanoscope in 2011. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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so you admit it has been seen in 2011
you flip at the start of your paragragh saying no one seen it you flop at the end of your paragraph saying its been seen in 2011
i know your just copying and pasting a lame script from someone thats not even a virologist. and then copying another script from another source
but when your 2 scripts contradict each other.. actually research and then pick one stop flip flopping
.. by the way viruses have been seen way before 2011 using lots of different technologies and your obsession to keep mentioning just one brand of microscrope just shows how little you actually research and how much you just repeat crappy scripts. sort yourself out. you have had 6-9 months to try learning a little
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so you admit it has been seen in 2011
you flip at the start of your paragragh saying no one seen it you flop at the end of your paragraph saying its been seen in 2011
i know your just copying and pasting a lame script from someone thats not even a virologist. and then copying another script from another source
but when your 2 scripts contradict each other.. actually research and then pick one stop flip flopping
.. by the way viruses have been seen way before 2011 using lots of different technologies and your obsession to keep mentioning just one brand of microscrope just shows how little you actually research and how much you just repeat crappy scripts. sort yourself out. you have had 6-9 months to try learning a little
What I am saying doesn't contradict. Rather, if you don't understand the language - which you obviously don't - one must attempt to talk in a language you understand, if they want you to understand (which really doesn't matter, of course). Since viruses and exosomes are the same thing, it doesn't matter which word is used. Since one doesn't repeat every word of what he said, he often allows lots of wording to be "contracted" with the understanding that it is there. In your case, you seem to have a difficult time speaking/writing good English. So it is totally understandable that you will be having a difficult time even comprehending English. But it is easy to understand why you have this problem. They say that various parts of the brain talk between themselves in 3-letter shortcut words. You must be so intelligent that you actually read and understand these 3-letter shortcut words jumping between the parts of your own brain. It's too bad that you can't get out of 3-letter words when you talk to other people. But it is to you credit that you keep on trying, anyway. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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