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November 07, 2020, 07:17:45 AM
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The SCOTUS actually just ordered that ballots received after the statutory deadline should be both kept and counted separately.

The SCOTUS ordered "ballots received after election day be
segregated so that if the State Supreme Court’s decision is
ultimately overturned, a targeted remedy will be available."

That's what's happening.  Election officials are following the orders of both PA State and SCOTUS.

Trump is arguing that they they are already fraudulent and should not be counted and a whole bunch of other nonsense.

They should be accepting the ballots, counting them, and keeping them separate from the votes received on or before election day.

Here's the ruling: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/20-542_i3dj.pdf

And no, I'm not being paid to post 'propaganda talking points', silly.

if the democrats get to power and get their puppet biden to become president everyone that voted democrat will have to feel ashamed of himselves.

only traitors would vote for someone like biden if they live in america

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November 07, 2020, 08:04:12 AM
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Here is an interesting article debunking the fake news (oh the irony) and propaganda spread by Trump: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/06/donald-trumps-speech-all-the-false-claims


Sometimes back, i remember there was a poll which had many options , one clause being that will trump leave the white house if he lost  the election?
The number of votes on that were very less but now i think trump doesn't want to leave the white house and will go to any level for this. Sad

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November 07, 2020, 08:52:26 AM
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Trump doesn't want to go away the White House if the vote count isn't over now because he's hopeful he will win the vote. But Biden is way before Trump the planet is now watching the ultimate results of the US presidential election. But there are still many votes to be counted meanwhile Donald Trump has declared himself the winner and accused his opponent of electoral fraud. But the many votes cast legally haven't yet been counted that seems to be the truth now which can provoke outrage among the opposition and lead the country to an extended and bitter legal battle.
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November 07, 2020, 09:37:03 AM
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Well Trump should practice what he preaches and follow on what he proudly tweeted about Putin and the Democrats.

Trump is a narcissist on a scale that has never been seen before in a president of the USA, he will not go quietly and will try to pull as many diversion tactics as possible to delay the inevitable. He actually thinks he will cling on to power but he is a deluded and mentally weak fool who should never have won the presidency in the first place because he was (and still is) unsuitable for the roles and responsibilities attached to the post.


The SCOTUS ordered "ballots received after election day be
segregated so that if the State Supreme Court’s decision is
ultimately overturned, a targeted remedy will be available."

That's what's happening.  Election officials are following the orders of both PA State and SCOTUS.

Trump is arguing that they they are already fraudulent and should not be counted and a whole bunch of other nonsense.

They should be accepting the ballots, counting them, and keeping them separate from the votes received on or before election day.

Here's the ruling: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/20-542_i3dj.pdf

And no, I'm not being paid to post 'propaganda talking points', silly.


Now would be a good time for Trump to go back and read this tweet:


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November 07, 2020, 04:06:46 PM
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Well Trump should practice what he preaches and follow on what he proudly tweeted about Putin and the Democrats.

Trump is a narcissist on a scale that has never been seen before in a president of the USA, he will not go quietly and will try to pull as many diversion tactics as possible to delay the inevitable. He actually thinks he will cling on to power but he is a deluded and mentally weak fool who should never have won the presidency in the first place because he was (and still is) unsuitable for the roles and responsibilities attached to the post.


The SCOTUS ordered "ballots received after election day be
segregated so that if the State Supreme Court’s decision is
ultimately overturned, a targeted remedy will be available."

That's what's happening.  Election officials are following the orders of both PA State and SCOTUS.

Trump is arguing that they they are already fraudulent and should not be counted and a whole bunch of other nonsense.

They should be accepting the ballots, counting them, and keeping them separate from the votes received on or before election day.

Here's the ruling: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/20-542_i3dj.pdf

And no, I'm not being paid to post 'propaganda talking points', silly.


Now would be a good time for Trump to go back and read this tweet:


Calm down and take a breath.

I'm sure that once it's all been analysed and found to be in order Trump will do what is required.
Those that seem to worry and complain about scrutiny are often found to be hiding something.

1. If it the rules have been provably broken = Trump and the US majority have a right to be upset and demand fair treatment.
2. If there is strong corroborating evidence the rules may have been broken = Then time must be allowed to thoroughly investigate.
3. If the rules themselves have not been broken but holes have been found and used to unfairly and inaccurately misrepresent the will of the majority then they must be fixed but it must be legally decided upon when they will be fixed.

There is no point either Trump or Biden trying to claim this until full analysis and investigation has been completed.
Anyone trying to rush or skimp on thorough investigation and analysis looks dirty.

Surely nobody can disagree that there is no harm in rooting out the truth.
Some shady sounding events have seemingly taken place. If there are not conclusively and thoroughly debunked you will end up with some very disgruntled people believing genuinely they have been scammed.

Some people make it sound very easy to cheat this voting by mail system. If it is then this could provide the impetus to plug the holes.
Trump or Biden? Let the genuine votes decide.

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November 07, 2020, 04:17:18 PM
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<snip... toxic troll drivel>

hopefully americans will be able to free themselves from those traiterous fools.

Americans were indeed able to free themselves from a “traitorous fool”
They voted him out and he will be vacating the premises come next year.

Also...take your toxic posts and put em all where the sun don’t shine.
Then do us all a favor and take a long walk off a short pier.

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November 07, 2020, 04:58:17 PM
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Thank you for capturing the mood in a nutshell with that excellent post. Trump lost, he is a bad loser, he wants to cling on to power by starting lawsuits but he lost the election - that is all that matters.

And as for that user, I added him to my ignore list a very long time ago, he is not worth being given even an iota of attention.


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hopefully americans will be able to free themselves from those traiterous fools.

Americans were indeed able to free themselves from a “traitorous fool”
They voted him out and he will be vacating the premises come next year.

Also...take your toxic posts and put em all where the sun don’t shine.
Then do us all a favor and take a long walk off a short pier.

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November 07, 2020, 06:31:05 PM
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Trump: “Pennsylvania Democrats have gone to the state supreme court to try and ban our election observers … They don’t want anybody in there. They don’t want anybody watching them while they are counting the ballots.”

The Facts: That is false. The president is wholly misrepresenting the court case. No one tried to ban poll watchers representing each side and Democrats did not try to stop Republican representatives from being able to observe the process.

The main issue was how close observers representing the parties could get to election workers who are processing mail-in ballots. The Trump campaign sued to let observers to get closer than the guidelines had allowed. A court ruled in favour of that request.

to add to the drama. idiot fanboy trumpist voters some how think just by saying they love trump, earns them the position of being trumps 'observers' and they wanted to be allowed into the counting facility. however the officials are the ones allowed in. the counting facility had to cover the glass windows because of the dumb idiotic chanting and screaming and window tapping the idiots outside were doing
this stemmed from trump telling normal NON officials to try to get inside the facility. yet legally they are not allowed.
only official observers are allowed in and all ballot counting facilities had official observers from both sides

sorry fangirls of trump but just being a fan does not make you official. get over it

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November 08, 2020, 09:01:20 PM
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 "COUNT THE VOTES...   COUNT THE VOTES!!"

Oh wait, no .... "STOP THE COUNT, STOP THE COUNT!!'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krur4xLPxD4

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November 08, 2020, 09:38:59 PM
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Election officials are following the orders of both PA State and SCOTUS.
The last time I checked, PA election officials declined to allow poll watchers watch the ballot counting, even after a PA appellate court ordered them to.  (this is a different case)
Trump is arguing that they they are already fraudulent and should not be counted and a whole bunch of other nonsense.
The state law is clear, in PA, the deadline to receive ballots is 8 PM on election day. Any vote received after this deadline is not a legal vote, and as such should not count. The term "fraudulent" may or may not be appropriate, however, these are not votes that should be counted.
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November 08, 2020, 09:45:47 PM
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I have to say, seeing those Trump supporters standing outside the ballot counting buildings chanting and waving placards made me think how desperate both Trump and those supporters really must be.

After all, the man himself was too busy playing golf when he was advised of Biden officially winning the presidency and after he was told... well he just.... carried on swinging those golf clubs. So my point is if Trump was not bothered about Biden winning then Trump supporters should stop for a second and look at the bigger picture and think about moving on.


Trump: “Pennsylvania Democrats have gone to the state supreme court to try and ban our election observers … They don’t want anybody in there. They don’t want anybody watching them while they are counting the ballots.”

The Facts: That is false. The president is wholly misrepresenting the court case. No one tried to ban poll watchers representing each side and Democrats did not try to stop Republican representatives from being able to observe the process.

The main issue was how close observers representing the parties could get to election workers who are processing mail-in ballots. The Trump campaign sued to let observers to get closer than the guidelines had allowed. A court ruled in favour of that request.

to add to the drama. idiot fanboy trumpist voters some how think just by saying they love trump, earns them the position of being trumps 'observers' and they wanted to be allowed into the counting facility. however the officials are the ones allowed in. the counting facility had to cover the glass windows because of the dumb idiotic chanting and screaming and window tapping the idiots outside were doing
this stemmed from trump telling normal NON officials to try to get inside the facility. yet legally they are not allowed.
only official observers are allowed in and all ballot counting facilities had official observers from both sides

sorry fangirls of trump but just being a fan does not make you official. get over it

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November 09, 2020, 12:06:52 AM
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The state law is clear, in PA, the deadline to receive ballots is 8 PM on election day. Any vote received after this deadline is not a legal vote, and as such should not count. The term "fraudulent" may or may not be appropriate, however, these are not votes that should be counted.

Before the election, the PA Supreme Court ruled 4-3 that "Ballots are to be treated as timely if they are postmarked on or before election day and are received within three days thereafter."

GOP asked SCOTUS to reverse it.

SCOTUS chose not to reverse it, but ordered that the ballots accepted after election day be treated as timely and segregated in case they ended up hearing the case after the election.

The votes should be treated as valid until a judge rules them as invalid.  This isn't a matter of whether or not you agree with the ruling, it's a matter of following the judges orders or not.  The scenario where your argument would be valid is If the SCOTUS reversed the PA State Court ruling, and then they accepted the ballots after election day anyway.

Pretty sure it would actually be a crime if they didn't accept them as you and Trump are suggesting - can't just do what you want because you don't like how the judicial system handled it.  


The last time I checked, PA election officials declined to allow poll watchers watch the ballot counting, even after a PA appellate court ordered them to.  (this is a different case)
Trumps lawyers have already admitted in court, under oath, that poll watchers on behalf of the president actually were allowed in the room.

There have also been a lot of now debunked false claims involving voter fraud.  I think it's likely one of those is your source.

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November 09, 2020, 12:24:14 AM
 #33

<snip... toxic troll drivel>

hopefully americans will be able to free themselves from those traiterous fools.

Americans were indeed able to free themselves from a “traitorous fool”
They voted him out and he will be vacating the premises come next year.

Also...take your toxic posts and put em all where the sun don’t shine.
Then do us all a favor and take a long walk off a short pier.

what traiterous fool?

the traitors that will let foreign criminals into the country while defunding the police and army, letting vulnerable citizens exposed to criminals and beggers,

are now getting into power.

migration itself isnt a crime,

but migrating and then containing yourself at the expense of others (social justice begging) and environmental consumption however is.

communists are fools because they want to open the border and sell out everyone until they then get unseated themselves by their migrant hordes.


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