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August 30, 2020, 09:46:52 PM
Last edit: September 07, 2020, 10:16:51 PM by fuzzymix
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Hi everyone! I would like to present a new kind of mixer that utilises Telegram's resilience as a platform, in order to improve the user's security and privacy!
I encourage you to try it! In case of bugs or malfunctioning, please contact us immediately.

INTRO
FuzzyMix is an advanced bitcoin mixer that uses a Telegram bot as
UI, avoiding more traceable webservers.
Like other mixers, it uses many anti-chain analysis techniques to avoid
bitcoin source tracing.
First, the main transaction pool is divided in three pools:
• Alpha Pool, containing tx coming from compromised
sources and having amounts less than 10 BTC.
• Beta Pool containing tx coming from compromised
sources and having amounts higher than 10 BTC or coming from semi-clean input.
• Gamma Pool containing tx coming from clean input exclusively.
The user can set up to 10 output addresses and delay for each address as well.
Moreover, thanks to SafeID, the user won't get  the same previously sent BTC back.

Fuzzymix declines every responsibility in case of:
1) Illegal use of the mixer. Fuzzymix doesn't effectuate chain
analysis and doesn't block specific addresses, so it doesn't have
any knowledge on which source the bitcoins come from, especially
the ones from Alpha and Beta pools.
2) Safe ID loss or theft.
3) Fuzzymix could avail itself of external services for transactions or
other informations, so Fuzzymix declines every responsibility in
case of errors due to those services.
However, in case of errors, FuzzyMix will give back already sent Bitcoin without further expenses if provided with the operation's SafeID by the user.
4) Fuzzymix doesn't keep track of users data and the few
transactions data gets deleted every 72 hours.
5) Fuzzymix declines every responsibility in case of Telegram
account theft.
6) Complaints or refund applications won't be taken into account if
sent after 72 hours.

@fuzzymix_bot

Q: What is FuzzyMix?
A:  FuzzyMix is a Bitcoin mixer/tumbler that obtains in flowing Bitcoins from unknown sources (or "at stake") and hands out Bitcoins which origin variates based on the user's choice, so other "at stake" Bitcoins, Bitcoins coming from exchange/miners or mixed with a 50% probability.


Q: How does FuzzyMix work?
A: All the system is based on three different transaction pools, coming from different sources. Not secure, secure and  mixed respectively. Transactions coming from not secure sources (denominate Alpha) come from the mixer's users. Transactions coming from secure sources (denominate Gamma) come from exchange or from mining pools. Talking about exchange transaction, we have to point out that nowadays more and more platforms are getting extremely selective towards inflowing Bitcoins and automatically reject transactions coming from addresses associated to notorious mixing services, like Wasabi for example. So, Bitcoins coming from those platforms can be considered secure. Mixed pool (Beta) contains both non secure transactions up to 10 BTC, and secure transactions. So, the user has a chance to obtain Bitcoins both secure and non secure. For every pool, the user pays a different fee based on the security level.

Q: Which techniques are used to anonimify both the user and the mixing Bitcoins? And which anti-chain analysis are used?
A: FuzzyMix uses various techniques. Not only a conjoin with a minimum level 2 anonymity and the exchange between the pools are used, but also a lot of effort is put into opposing the chain-analysis according to the currently used heuristic algorithm.
First of all, the user can choose up to 10 different output addresses, and, for each one of them, he/she can set a delay time from 1 to 72 hours. Also, a SafeID is present, in order to keep the user from getting back the same deposited Bitcoins, jeopardizing the mixing operations. The change address is always different from the inputs.

Q: Are there any other measures to guarantee user's privacy?
A: Yes. First of all, user interface doesn't consist of a classic HTML page or a website, but rather a Telegram bot, which  security policy are high and allow an elevate security rate.
Moreover, the servers are situated in different nations with high user's privacy guarantee, and the logs in our servers get deleted periodically, even if they do not contain sensitive data.

Q: Are you planning any update to get it even better in the near future?
A: Of course. First of all, we will augment contrast measures regarding the chain-analysis, adapting the outgoing addresses' script with the ones inserted by the users and diversifying the output values which represent the partition of the amount sent to the final user, avoiding, for example, round numbers.
Moreover, we will add a system which lets you choose the type of Bitcoins you want to mix with specific features, like letting users decide between depositing Bitcoins on exchange services who use filters and who wants to get the Bitcoin out in a completely anonymous way, without knowing the Bitcoins source.

Q: How will you prove the fact that this is not a scam?
A: We will get the mixer tested by different excrows, and, in particular cases, we could decide to show the source code to trusted excrows.
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September 02, 2020, 12:47:11 PM
Last edit: September 02, 2020, 03:24:13 PM by fuzzymix
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We will be posting the presentation post written in various languages in the major country sections in the following days
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September 02, 2020, 09:06:40 PM
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Posting automated translations in various boards is violating most of local rules. Automated translations are also forbidden on the forum as a whole apart some exceptions.

I would advise you remove these, or get them properly translated.
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September 02, 2020, 09:28:48 PM
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Do you seriously think people are going to trust you with their coin when you do not even have a website?

Forum members tend to be more paranoid about trusting others with their coin than the population as a whole. The number of scams the forum has seen means this paranoia is not unwarranted.
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September 02, 2020, 10:02:05 PM
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Posting automated translations in various boards is violating most of local rules. Automated translations are also forbidden on the forum as a whole apart some exceptions.

I would advise you remove these, or get them properly translated.

member of our staff take care on issue of translation! we use native speakers translator
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September 02, 2020, 10:08:42 PM
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Do you seriously think people are going to trust you with their coin when you do not even have a website?

Forum members tend to be more paranoid about trusting others with their coin than the population as a whole. The number of scams the forum has seen means this paranoia is not unwarranted.


im sure that in the time the people will trust in us, in next days we add more detail.
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September 03, 2020, 11:10:12 AM
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Do you seriously think people are going to trust you with their coin when you do not even have a website?

Forum members tend to be more paranoid about trusting others with their coin than the population as a whole. The number of scams the forum has seen means this paranoia is not unwarranted.


im sure that in the time the people will trust in us, in next days we add more detail.
Due to some good company in the Bitcoin tumbler business turning bad it will be hard for people to trust your project and I dont see any reason why people whose privacy is their top priority will use your mixer when you barely give hints about how the whole process will be done.

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September 03, 2020, 02:52:54 PM
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I don't get how those two are possible:

First, the main transaction pool is divided in three pools:
• Alpha Pool, containing tx coming from compromised sources and having amounts less than 10 BTC.
• Beta Pool containing tx coming from compromised sources and having amounts higher than 10 BTC or coming from semi-clean input.
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Fuzzymix declines every responsibility in case of:
1) Illegal use of the mixer. Fuzzymix doesn't effectuate chain analysis and doesn't block specific addresses, so it doesn't have any knowledge on which source the bitcoins come from, especially the ones from Alpha and Beta pools.

So you know that some transactions come from "compromised" sources, but at the same time, you have no knowledge where the funds come from.
Care to explain this a bit?

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September 03, 2020, 10:03:18 PM
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I don't get how those two are possible:

First, the main transaction pool is divided in three pools:
• Alpha Pool, containing tx coming from compromised sources and having amounts less than 10 BTC.
• Beta Pool containing tx coming from compromised sources and having amounts higher than 10 BTC or coming from semi-clean input.
<>

Fuzzymix declines every responsibility in case of:
1) Illegal use of the mixer. Fuzzymix doesn't effectuate chain analysis and doesn't block specific addresses, so it doesn't have any knowledge on which source the bitcoins come from, especially the ones from Alpha and Beta pools.

So you know that some transactions come from "compromised" sources, but at the same time, you have no knowledge where the funds come from.
Care to explain this a bit?


We apologize for the misunderstanding. We meant to write that, in the already mentioned pools, the users' Bitcoins come from unknown sources.
soon we will give more updates
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September 07, 2020, 10:15:50 PM
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Q: What is FuzzyMix?
A:  FuzzyMix is a Bitcoin mixer/tumbler that obtains in flowing Bitcoins from unknown sources (or "at stake") and hands out Bitcoins which origin variates based on the user's choice, so other "at stake" Bitcoins, Bitcoins coming from exchange/miners or mixed with a 50% probability.


Q: How does FuzzyMix work?
A: All the system is based on three different transaction pools, coming from different sources. Not secure, secure and  mixed respectively. Transactions coming from not secure sources (denominate Alpha) come from the mixer's users. Transactions coming from secure sources (denominate Gamma) come from exchange or from mining pools. Talking about exchange transaction, we have to point out that nowadays more and more platforms are getting extremely selective towards inflowing Bitcoins and automatically reject transactions coming from addresses associated to notorious mixing services, like Wasabi for example. So, Bitcoins coming from those platforms can be considered secure. Mixed pool (Beta) contains both non secure transactions up to 10 BTC, and secure transactions. So, the user has a chance to obtain Bitcoins both secure and non secure. For every pool, the user pays a different fee based on the security level.

Q: Which techniques are used to anonimify both the user and the mixing Bitcoins? And which anti-chain analysis are used?
A: FuzzyMix uses various techniques. Not only a conjoin with a minimum level 2 anonymity and the exchange between the pools are used, but also a lot of effort is put into opposing the chain-analysis according to the currently used heuristic algorithm.
First of all, the user can choose up to 10 different output addresses, and, for each one of them, he/she can set a delay time from 1 to 72 hours. Also, a SafeID is present, in order to keep the user from getting back the same deposited Bitcoins, jeopardizing the mixing operations. The change address is always different from the inputs.

Q: Are there any other measures to guarantee user's privacy?
A: Yes. First of all, user interface doesn't consist of a classic HTML page or a website, but rather a Telegram bot, which  security policy are high and allow an elevate security rate.
Moreover, the servers are situated in different nations with high user's privacy guarantee, and the logs in our servers get deleted periodically, even if they do not contain sensitive data.

Q: Are you planning any update to get it even better in the near future?
A: Of course. First of all, we will augment contrast measures regarding the chain-analysis, adapting the outgoing addresses' script with the ones inserted by the users and diversifying the output values which represent the partition of the amount sent to the final user, avoiding, for example, round numbers.
Moreover, we will add a system which lets you choose the type of Bitcoins you want to mix with specific features, like letting users decide between depositing Bitcoins on exchange services who use filters and who wants to get the Bitcoin out in a completely anonymous way, without knowing the Bitcoins source.

Q: How will you prove the fact that this is not a scam?
A: We will get the mixer tested by different excrows, and, in particular cases, we could decide to show the source code to trusted excrows.
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September 09, 2020, 07:12:36 PM
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Hi! I'm a fuzzymix staff member.
As you see, the mixer is developed with a high security standard and more upcoming features to increase users privacy.
Of course it's a centralized mixer, but it's different than other because we studied closed mixer fails and new chain analysis heuristics to improve our mixer at top level!
 Grin Grin
Soon we'll organize a test whit trusted escrows.
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