New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs

[arielbit]

I know that this are gddr5, but the memory is not the only thing. The R9 390 has 512bit memory interface, that is why i say incredible. Or you know much more cards with such a big memory interface like this?
Don´t compare only gddr5 with gddr6 or hbm, you must see the whole thing. memspeed is combination of memory interface and memspeed.

i like to keep things simple hehe, those memory interface speed differences are just minimal leap. major upgrades/purchases are only worthy with huge leap in performance.

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[sxemini]

I know that this are gddr5, but the memory is not the only thing. The R9 390 has 512bit memory interface, that is why i say incredible. Or you know much more cards with such a big memory interface like this?
Don´t compare only gddr5 with gddr6 or hbm, you must see the whole thing. memspeed is combination of memory interface and memspeed.

i like to keep things simple hehe, those memory interface speed differences are just minimal leap. major upgrades/purchases are only worthy with huge leap in performance.

XXXXDDDDD ok now i am out, I don´t discuss with persons they have really really really and really no knowledge about what they talking about. So you say, if i can halving the memory interface of an r9 390 to 256, this will change nothing in eth speed? you cut of the halve mem speed and this will do nothing with the speed? Ok dude you must learn much more, i don´t believe this, i know this.

How much cards you have for mining?

For example: R9 390 can reach over 40mh if you rise the core to the hell, an rx 580 with almost the same number of shaders, but halve mem interface cannot achieve these hashrate.
Next Example: R9 280x 384bit mem interface, can achieve 28mh on 1GB DAG, R9 380x same shader count, but interface cuted to 256bit, max it can achieve 25mh with some optimizations.

Can you prove anything or do you have any comparisons that prove your statements?

[arielbit]

I know that this are gddr5, but the memory is not the only thing. The R9 390 has 512bit memory interface, that is why i say incredible. Or you know much more cards with such a big memory interface like this?
Don´t compare only gddr5 with gddr6 or hbm, you must see the whole thing. memspeed is combination of memory interface and memspeed.

i like to keep things simple hehe, those memory interface speed differences are just minimal leap. major upgrades/purchases are only worthy with huge leap in performance.

XXXXDDDDD ok now i am out, I don´t discuss with persons they have really really really and really no knowledge about what they talking about. So you say, if i can halving the memory interface of an r9 390 to 256, this will change nothing in eth speed? you cut of the halve mem speed and this will do nothing with the speed? Ok dude you must learn much more, i don´t believe this, i know this.

How much cards you have for mining?

For example: R9 390 can reach over 40mh if you rise the core to the hell, an rx 580 with almost the same number of shaders, but halve mem interface cannot achieve these hashrate.
Next Example: R9 280x 384bit mem interface, can achieve 28mh on 1GB DAG, R9 380x same shader count, but interface cuted to 256bit, max it can achieve 25mh with some optimizations.

Can you prove anything or do you have any comparisons that prove your statements?

for example...bluah..blah..blee.bluu.blawr..

will you cut the memory interface from 512 to 256? LOL it is a product, engineers already decided what interface will do best for that product.

we just run it and see if it will profit. dude you are over complicating things just to win an argument that you will never win hehehehe

how many cards i run? well... that's the mystery dude  

[sxemini]

I know that this are gddr5, but the memory is not the only thing. The R9 390 has 512bit memory interface, that is why i say incredible. Or you know much more cards with such a big memory interface like this?
Don´t compare only gddr5 with gddr6 or hbm, you must see the whole thing. memspeed is combination of memory interface and memspeed.

i like to keep things simple hehe, those memory interface speed differences are just minimal leap. major upgrades/purchases are only worthy with huge leap in performance.

XXXXDDDDD ok now i am out, I don´t discuss with persons they have really really really and really no knowledge about what they talking about. So you say, if i can halving the memory interface of an r9 390 to 256, this will change nothing in eth speed? you cut of the halve mem speed and this will do nothing with the speed? Ok dude you must learn much more, i don´t believe this, i know this.

How much cards you have for mining?

For example: R9 390 can reach over 40mh if you rise the core to the hell, an rx 580 with almost the same number of shaders, but halve mem interface cannot achieve these hashrate.

will you cut the memory interface from 512 to 256? LOL it is a product, engineers already decided what interface will do best for that product.

we just run it and see if it will profit. dude you are over complicating things just to win an argument that you will never win hehehehe

how many cards i run? well... that's the mystery dude  

Oh man please let it rain brain. Your knowledge is incredible XD it is product. What an answer. You know the difference between 512bit und 256bit? You know that 256bit produce halve memspeed as 512bit can do?

dude i don´t answer you anymore and set you on my ignore list. I can´t read your shit anymore

And i will never win? What will i win? A trip? You have no arguments and nothing and with your 3 cards running you think you are a big player XD

This is sentence from you (arielbit) say all about your knowledge:

anyway my point is about 150mhs "possibility" from gddr5x to 6 to 6x. that's two vram generation leaps. understand the analogy. then you will understand why it is a "possibility"

Yes and gddr5 to gddr5x brings double memspeed. man dude you must compare the real memspeed and not gddr5 to gddr6x.   some people will learn nothing but thats it. i am out sorry dude and have fun with your killer 1080ti´s that can produce 50mh, wow impressive   and you compare it with the RX5700 and say that Nvidia can do this many years ago. Ok AMD can do over 100mh many years ago with vega7. And by the way, the Rx5700 can do over 55mh at 120w, how much watt needs the 1080ti´s?

And next argument: Miners not optimized for RTX3080. Ok the miners are also not optimized for AMD vega7, Navi and so on. Miners optimized for the RTX20X0 series? Some other algo miners yes, but not for ETH.
You say i only speak about ETH hashrate and nvidia can do more algos than AMD, but why you still compare the ETH hashrate  


There are many algos for AMD and Nvidia, i prefer no Manufacturer, i only buy cards with a good hash per watt ratio.

How can I calculate the memory bandwidth thats important for ETH mining:

(memory clock in Hz × Memory Interface ÷ 8 ) × memory clock type multiplier = Bandwidth in MB/s

memory clock type multiplier:
HBM1 / HBM2: 2
GDDR3: 2
GDDR5: 4
GDDR5X: 8

[arielbit]

I know that this are gddr5, but the memory is not the only thing. The R9 390 has 512bit memory interface, that is why i say incredible. Or you know much more cards with such a big memory interface like this?
Don´t compare only gddr5 with gddr6 or hbm, you must see the whole thing. memspeed is combination of memory interface and memspeed.

i like to keep things simple hehe, those memory interface speed differences are just minimal leap. major upgrades/purchases are only worthy with huge leap in performance.

XXXXDDDDD ok now i am out, I don´t discuss with persons they have really really really and really no knowledge about what they talking about. So you say, if i can halving the memory interface of an r9 390 to 256, this will change nothing in eth speed? you cut of the halve mem speed and this will do nothing with the speed? Ok dude you must learn much more, i don´t believe this, i know this.

How much cards you have for mining?

For example: R9 390 can reach over 40mh if you rise the core to the hell, an rx 580 with almost the same number of shaders, but halve mem interface cannot achieve these hashrate.

for example...bluah..blah..blee.bluu.blawr..

will you cut the memory interface from 512 to 256? LOL it is a product, engineers already decided what interface will do best for that product.

we just run it and see if it will profit. dude you are over complicating things just to win an argument that you will never win hehehehe

how many cards i run? well... that's the mystery dude  

Oh man please let it rain brain. Your knowledge is incredible XD it is product. What an answer. You know the difference between 512bit und 256bit? You know that 256bit produce halve memspeed as 512bit can do?

dude i don´t answer you anymore and set you on my ignore list. I can´t read your shit no more

And i will never win? What will i win? A trip? You have no arguments and nothing and with your 3 cards running you think you are a big player XD

yeah, my super expert scientist and engineering brain knows that 3080 has a hidden rx480 inside, because if you slide the msi afterburner bar a little bit to the right it generates another 25-30 mhs of extra hashrate

you....while owing rx 480 cannot accept the fact that 3080 buyers will have a rx480 inside their 3080 cards for free.

gpu mining/gpu technology has another major leg up, going sour and rampaging in altcoin mining section while being phased out in the game is not the way to go sxe..mini dick LOL    

hehehe ignore my ass....all these years in bitcointalk...they always read  

[aesma]

arielbit you're not making much sense. These cards are for gaming, it's totally possible that the memory bus is tailored for that, for cost reasons, and that if you could have more memory bandwidth it would help for mining. If you look at the RTX 3080 vs 3090, it's the same chip, so the 3080 could be run on the same PCB as the 3090 with the same memory bus (you'd have to not fuse off parts of the memory controller of course) and you would get a gain for mining. However the card would be more expensive, and games wouldn't benefit much, so nvidia doesn't do it.

In the past it has happened that a high end GPU was remade on a smaller process, the memory bus cut, and that was the new middle end GPU.

[arielbit]

arielbit you're not making much sense. These cards are for gaming, it's totally possible that the memory bus is tailored for that, for cost reasons, and that if you could have more memory bandwidth it would help for mining. If you look at the RTX 3080 vs 3090, it's the same chip, so the 3080 could be run on the same PCB as the 3090 with the same memory bus (you'd have to not fuse off parts of the memory controller of course) and you would get a gain for mining. However the card would be more expensive, and games wouldn't benefit much, so nvidia doesn't do it.

In the past it has happened that a high end GPU was remade on a smaller process, the memory bus cut, and that was the new middle end GPU.

that's why i said it is already a "product", nvidia/amd engineering and marketing department has already sorted it all out.

you can all throw your mumbo jumbo tech interpretations and examples out there with your basic arithmetic but the fact is we just follow what these gpu manufacturers throw out there.

example: sxemini dick, got a phd in memory interface says 3080 is 65mh, but 3080 can deliver 93mh (mining software and driver not yet optimized) LOL

the bottom line is..its the hashes per card we want (efficiency included).

How can I calculate the memory bandwidth thats important for ETH mining:

(memory clock in Hz × Memory Interface ÷ 8 ) × memory clock type multiplier = Bandwidth in MB/s

memory clock type multiplier:
HBM1 / HBM2: 2
GDDR3: 2
GDDR5: 4
GDDR5X: 8

me:...writing this in my palm

come here sxemini....i slap this on your stupid face.

who the fuck cares? you are already wrong and you give me this stupid fucking formula like some Einstein piece of shit haha


here let me show you my formula.

buy 3080, plug it in your computer, mine with it. 

[jmigdlc99]

^ That escalated quickly.

Anyway, did anyone here get to buy a 3080? I was refreshing Nvidia, Amazon, Newegg, Bestbuy, and Lazada like crazy. But all out of stock within seconds! Nvidia is good at creating extreme demand for their GPUs lol.

[Metroid]

^ That escalated quickly.

Anyway, did anyone here get to buy a 3080? I was refreshing Nvidia, Amazon, Newegg, Bestbuy, and Lazada like crazy. But all out of stock within seconds! Nvidia is good at creating extreme demand for their GPUs lol.

It escalated because nvidia itself said stock would be limited. If they have said, do not worry we have lots in stock then people would have calmed down. Limit 1 gpu per household, truth here is that people bought to resell them, buy for $699 and sell for $999 on ebay or other places easy.

[wOvAN]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRxlTxysbQk

95mh - 240w

[Metroid]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRxlTxysbQk

95mh - 240w

Thanks for the video. I wonder how safe is 800+ memory overclock. So without any drastic change, 2.52 watts per megahash, incredible, certainly the gpu king of mining for now.

[btcshiner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRxlTxysbQk

95mh - 240w

Nice video thanks!

[badbart]

Need to see other alogs, slightly less efficient then a 5700 on eth but density is a winner and I would assume much better on other algos.

[geck]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRxlTxysbQk

95mh - 240w

Thanks for the video. I wonder how safe is 800+ memory overclock. So without any drastic change, 2.52 watts per megahash, incredible, certainly the gpu king of mining for now.

It definitely isn't the king of mining in terms of efficiency for ETH. 2.52W/MH puts it roughly equal to my 2080.
If it is hampered by the gddr6x, then the 3070 should fare better at ETH - 60MH @ 150W? That would be rx5700 level.

[Metroid]

It definitely isn't the king of mining in terms of efficiency for ETH. 2.52W/MH puts it roughly equal to my 2080.
If it is hampered by the gddr6x, then the 3070 should fare better at ETH - 60MH @ 150W? That would be rx5700 level.

uh? you say equal and yet you did not say your hashrate, taking the value from whattomine, it says, 2080, 38 mhs 160 watts, rx 5700 or 3070 will not come close to price performance of the 3080 and density, you can deny all day long but when numbers are real, is time you trolls accept the reality, at moment there is nothing better than 3080 overall which yes makes it the gpu king of mining.

[aesma]

W/MH is an important measure, but you must also consider the price of the cards. I can find a 5700XT for about 350€ in Europe, meanwhile I can't find a 3080 , but if I could it would be more than twice that amount. How much electricity would the difference pay, accounting also for the density of cards on rigs ? You have to take everything into account.

[Metroid]

It depends the price now. $699 3080 10gb, lets hope maximum for a 20gb is $849.

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-20-gb-rtx-3070-16-gb-rtx-3060-8-gb-graphics-cards-confirmed/

[Eliovp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRxlTxysbQk

95mh - 240w

Thanks for the video. I wonder how safe is 800+ memory overclock. So without any drastic change, 2.52 watts per megahash, incredible, certainly the gpu king of mining for now.

Been reading some posts here, mostly reading a bunch of nonsense and speculation, usually not worth replying to but this one I just had to reply to.

2.52w the king of mining?

My almost 2 year old R7: 2.1W/Mh.
My 3 year old Vega 56: 2.5W/Mh (and this can be improved)
My 5700: 2.2W/Mh

Great king you've got there.

Is it a king for gaming purposes? Yeah, most probably! But so far, not for mining (efficiency wise).

Please try to be objective and don't let your fanboyism get the better of you.

Cheers ;-)

[Lucky - Luciano]

It depends the price now. $699 3080 10gb, lets hope maximum for a 20gb is $849.

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-20-gb-rtx-3070-16-gb-rtx-3060-8-gb-graphics-cards-confirmed/

The price of $ 699 (590 euros) is on paper only. In EU stores, the cheapest RTX3080 models cost around 750 euros ($ 887). Many models are 800 euros ($ 947) and more .

[Metroid]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRxlTxysbQk

95mh - 240w

Thanks for the video. I wonder how safe is 800+ memory overclock. So without any drastic change, 2.52 watts per megahash, incredible, certainly the gpu king of mining for now.

Been reading some posts here, mostly reading a bunch of nonsense and speculation, usually not worth replying to but this one I just had to reply to.

2.52w the king of mining?

My almost 2 year old R7: 2.1W/Mh.
My 3 year old Vega 56: 2.5W/Mh (and this can be improved)
My 5700: 2.2W/Mh

Great king you've got there.

Is it a king for gaming purposes? Yeah, most probably! But so far, not for mining (efficiency wise).

Please try to be objective and don't let your fanboyism get the better of you.

Cheers ;-)

"certainly the gpu king of mining for now." Is that really wrong? Do the numbers say I said bs? Is there a better GPU right now regarding efficiency and density?

Fanboyism, really? Do the numbers say is really fanboyism? on the contrary, the numbers support my statement, tell me a gpu that does 95 mhs and uses 240 watts and yes it can be improved it too. As per my post I clearly said efficiency and density here. See how i did not need to lower to your level. There is no need to attack the poster when the numbers clearly say it all.

It depends the price now. $699 3080 10gb, lets hope maximum for a 20gb is $849.

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-20-gb-rtx-3070-16-gb-rtx-3060-8-gb-graphics-cards-confirmed/

The price of $ 699 (590 euros) is on paper only. In EU stores, the cheapest RTX3080 models cost around 750 euros ($ 887).

What paper is this? if your country you live in has tax and other things to pay, like resellers getting a gold opportunity to get some extra money, do not blame nvidia, that does not mean is "paper only", check the US store websites, every manufacture had a $699 version or very close to it difference to it was marginally low, $730 or so.