New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs

[Metroid]

and I will make it worse then amd cards due to no availability.

Miners should never pay more than $749 for it, up to $749 is okay. The best thing at moment is walk away from it and await patiently.

There is a video about its hashrate on eth, guy got 100 mhs using 250 watts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMVLTECQoZc

[DavidC1]

and I will make it worse then amd cards due to no availability.

Miners should never pay more than $749 for it, up to $749 is okay. The best thing at moment is walk away from it and await patiently.

There is a video about its hashrate on eth, guy got 100 mhs using 250 watts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMVLTECQoZc

We'll see if it actually gets that. On Ampere, rather than crashing the memory will generate more and more errors. Actually it probably was somewhat true in the previous generation too, but to a much lesser degree.

I have 3 Polaris cards running. 1 card is weaker in this aspect than the rest. None of the cards get memory errors nor do they get incorrect shares. But the weaker card needs the memory clock to be backed down little bit further otherwise the effective hash rate drops compared to the reported hash rate because it'll get less shares.

I've seen other systems on Etherscan where the effective hash is consistently 5-7% lower than the reported hash rate. This is what happens when the card is pushed too hard but not so much that monitoring utilities are able to see the problems.

[wOvAN]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OHK9JSiTAo

~100mh - 240w

[rdluffy]

guy got 100 mhs using 250 watts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMVLTECQoZc

It's a good hashrate, but there's a choice to be made, maybe 2 5700xt hashing 54Mhs each one will be a better choice, with bios mod people are getting 56Mhs
Here in my country 2 radeon 5700 are cheaper than one RXT 3080 and it's easy to buy

I'll probably buy one if I have the chance with a reasonable price

[arielbit]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-gaming-performance-review-leaks-out

3090 benchmarks vs 3080

games +10%
synthetic +20% (3d mark)


mining performance tends to reflect to synthetic performance in difference. if 3080 is 100mhs, then probably 3090 is 120-130mhs.

if 3090 will hash efficient enough @ 133.33mhs.. in a 3 card rig setup, will work like 4x 3080 @ 400mhs..

but i hope 120-130mhs is for 3080ti not for 3090, 3090 will be sweet for 150mhs.

if these asics are still getting bought, a x3 3090 rig and x4 3080 rig is close enough in density. also if you think about resell value and being able to mine other coins 3080 is already a winner and 3090 is reasonable enough versus ETH ASIC.  

500mhs eth asic is 4689$ at 750w

https://www.cryptominerbros.com/product/innosilicon-a10-pro-500mh-s-ethash-miner/

knowing these ASICs are getting bought, 3080 is a no brainer to purchase for mining eth

I will not be surprised if ASIC trolls will come full force against 30xx series for mining LOL

[Metroid]

guy got 100 mhs using 250 watts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMVLTECQoZc

It's a good hashrate, but there's a choice to be made, maybe 2 5700xt hashing 54Mhs each one will be a better choice, with bios mod people are getting 56Mhs
Here in my country 2 radeon 5700 are cheaper than one RXT 3080 and it's easy to buy

I'll probably buy one if I have the chance with a reasonable price

The problem with 2x more video cards is management, twice more risers, twice more problems, twice more psu cables. The 3080 is easily the best buy, now yeah prices vary depending on the country but I believe once this turmoil is over, things will get back to normal and the price of the 3080 will be very close to msrp which in turn will make it attractive again.

[arielbit]

guy got 100 mhs using 250 watts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMVLTECQoZc

It's a good hashrate, but there's a choice to be made, maybe 2 5700xt hashing 54Mhs each one will be a better choice, with bios mod people are getting 56Mhs
Here in my country 2 radeon 5700 are cheaper than one RXT 3080 and it's easy to buy

I'll probably buy one if I have the chance with a reasonable price

The problem with 2x more video cards is management, twice more risers, twice more problems, twice more psu cables. The 3080 is easily the best buy, now yeah prices vary depending on the country but I believe once this turmoil is over, things will get back to normal and the price of the 3080 will be very close to msrp which in turn will make it attractive again.

mining rig:

1 psu: 10-12 years warranty               (enough pcie for 1200-1600w models)
1 motherboard: 2-3 years warranty     (3-4 pcie slots are common)
1 ram: lifetime warranty
1 boot disk: cheap, can be usb, ssd hdd.
1 processor: very high chance it won't have problems
3-4 risers: easy management

note: typically psu will run their best efficiency at 50% load, 3080 @ 100mhs 250w is 750w. with 1600w psu is very near the peak efficiency of psu, of course just tweak it out for personal preference but the setup is within the range of peak efficiency curve

[Metroid]

guy got 100 mhs using 250 watts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMVLTECQoZc

It's a good hashrate, but there's a choice to be made, maybe 2 5700xt hashing 54Mhs each one will be a better choice, with bios mod people are getting 56Mhs
Here in my country 2 radeon 5700 are cheaper than one RXT 3080 and it's easy to buy

I'll probably buy one if I have the chance with a reasonable price

The problem with 2x more video cards is management, twice more risers, twice more problems, twice more psu cables. The 3080 is easily the best buy, now yeah prices vary depending on the country but I believe once this turmoil is over, things will get back to normal and the price of the 3080 will be very close to msrp which in turn will make it attractive again.

mining rig:

1 psu: 10-12 years warranty               (enough pcie for 1200-1600w models)
1 motherboard: 2-3 years warranty     (3-4 pcie slots are common)
1 ram: lifetime warranty
1 boot disk: cheap, can be usb, ssd hdd.
1 processor: very high chance it won't have problems
3-4 risers: easy management

note: typically psu will run their best efficiency at 50% load, 3080 @ 100mhs 250w is 750w. with 1600w psu is very near the peak efficiency of psu, of course just tweak it out for personal preference but the setup is within the range of peak efficiency curve

Yeah I agree with everything you said, you do your homework ehhe, still, mining is a lot of work, I prefer trading, much more money and risks too. The warranty if honoured makes things easier to roi.

[arielbit]

guy got 100 mhs using 250 watts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMVLTECQoZc

It's a good hashrate, but there's a choice to be made, maybe 2 5700xt hashing 54Mhs each one will be a better choice, with bios mod people are getting 56Mhs
Here in my country 2 radeon 5700 are cheaper than one RXT 3080 and it's easy to buy

I'll probably buy one if I have the chance with a reasonable price

The problem with 2x more video cards is management, twice more risers, twice more problems, twice more psu cables. The 3080 is easily the best buy, now yeah prices vary depending on the country but I believe once this turmoil is over, things will get back to normal and the price of the 3080 will be very close to msrp which in turn will make it attractive again.

mining rig:

1 psu: 10-12 years warranty               (enough pcie for 1200-1600w models)
1 motherboard: 2-3 years warranty     (3-4 pcie slots are common)
1 ram: lifetime warranty
1 boot disk: cheap, can be usb, ssd hdd.
1 processor: very high chance it won't have problems
3-4 risers: easy management

note: typically psu will run their best efficiency at 50% load, 3080 @ 100mhs 250w is 750w. with 1600w psu is very near the peak efficiency of psu, of course just tweak it out for personal preference but the setup is within the range of peak efficiency curve

Yeah I agree with everything you said, you do your homework ehhe, still, mining is a lot of work, I prefer trading, much more money and risks too. The warranty if honoured makes things easier to roi.

you as a trader is wise to monitor the mining world hehehe, what happens in the "trading dimension" (where is full of shit and "abstract-manipulative-secret" words) correlates with the "mining dimension" ...in short, "mining dimension" is "one of the signals" where a trader should watch  

[Metroid]

you as a trader is wise to monitor the mining world hehehe, what happens in the "trading dimension" (where is full of shit and "abstract-manipulative-secret" words) correlates with the "mining dimension" ...in short, "mining dimension" is "one of the signals" where a trader should watch  

hehe, well I have been in this website since 2013, yeah good traders are well informed about mining because that is where have been the source of the coins, they need to be, trust me, but things have been changing due to pos and that has been bad to the ecosystem, any coin that doesn't need to be mined is bad, look what happened in 2017-2018, icos, none of them needed to be mined, look what happened, it crashed everything, people had no idea about it, they thought icos were like eth or btc and they bought without thinking, mining at least there is a total number of minted coins everyday, with things like defi we have no idea about if billions of coins can be created at whim, so you can't invest on that thing if you dont know where that thing is headed, defi and icos rules can change anytime, with pow rules take time to change and that is not easily changed. So if you understand about mining, you will be a good trader because you know the depths of it, its limitation and from where it can go. To me all coins that can't be mined are scams, personal opinion of course.

[rdluffy]

The problem with 2x more video cards is management, twice more risers, twice more problems, twice more psu cables. The 3080 is easily the best buy, now yeah prices vary depending on the country but I believe once this turmoil is over, things will get back to normal and the price of the 3080 will be very close to msrp which in turn will make it attractive again.

There's no doubt, less cards = easier to deal with
And Nvidia ones are easy do tweak and maintain than AMDs, but at least in my case, I'm only mining in a small rig, with the USD price, is worthing again in my country
In another countries, we have to wait a lot of time to have a good price on these cards, but even with the suggested price here, it's only 12 months to "roi" RTX 3080, a good deal in my opinion

[aesma]

I almost want to buy a 3080 now, but fortunately for my wallet it's not available anywhere !

I will wait for AMD's offering to make a more informed choice, and maybe benefit from better prices/better cards.

[philipma1957]

I almost want to buy a 3080 now, but fortunately for my wallet it's not available anywhere !

I will wait for AMD's offering to make a more informed choice, and maybe benefit from better prices/better cards.

So you plan to wait until Oct 28th.?

I guess a really large farm or one rig should wait.

But if you are doing two,three or four rigs.

why not do 1 rig now with the amd 5600

they make for very good four card rigs.

I use eight slot boards with a intel 4400t a stick of ram and a bitmain apw3+
four amd 5600 gpus
the rigs are about 1250 to build.

they use around 458  they do about 160mh they earn around $6.40 a day 12kwatts power at 10 cents is 1.20

so 5.20 profit so 240 days for payoff.

[Dowper_]

I almost want to buy a 3080 now, but fortunately for my wallet it's not available anywhere !

I will wait for AMD's offering to make a more informed choice, and maybe benefit from better prices/better cards.

So you plan to wait until Oct 28th.?

I guess a really large farm or one rig should wait.

But if you are doing two,three or four rigs.

why not do 1 rig now with the amd 5600

they make for very good four card rigs.

I use eight slot boards with a intel 4400t a stick of ram and a bitmain apw3+
four amd 5600 gpus
the rigs are about 1250 to build.

they use around 458  they do about 160mh they earn around $6.40 a day 12kwatts power at 10 cents is 1.20

so 5.20 profit so 240 days for payoff.

5600 are 6GB, I wouldn't buy them.

[aesma]

I almost want to buy a 3080 now, but fortunately for my wallet it's not available anywhere !

I will wait for AMD's offering to make a more informed choice, and maybe benefit from better prices/better cards.

So you plan to wait until Oct 28th.?

I guess a really large farm or one rig should wait.

But if you are doing two,three or four rigs.

why not do 1 rig now with the amd 5600

they make for very good four card rigs.

I use eight slot boards with a intel 4400t a stick of ram and a bitmain apw3+
four amd 5600 gpus
the rigs are about 1250 to build.

they use around 458  they do about 160mh they earn around $6.40 a day 12kwatts power at 10 cents is 1.20

so 5.20 profit so 240 days for payoff.

In truth it would be a gaming rig that would mine when I'm not gaming (so most of the time).

I can't really mine where I'm at now, or I would need to lease a hangar or something, which I don't really want to do. I'm looking at houses and will buy one large enough with some land to mine in part of the house, and maybe build a hangar for it later, get three-phases power to it, etc. The authorities might think I'm growing cannabis but since I won't be it doesn't matter.

Also my electricity is 0,19$/kWh

[DrG]

1 card is also easier to sell than 2 cards. nVidia is also easier to sell at a higher % of initial cost compared to AMD. It doesn't make sense because AMD cards typically increase in performance as times goes by relative to their nVidia counterparts but that's how the consumer market perceive the 2 brands.

Being able to sell 1060 3GB cards for $125 (purchased at $200) after 3 years of mining is wonderful. The RX 470s with 4GB of memory perform better in games and are still mining but don't command as much on resale market. The power of branding.

[DrG]

you as a trader is wise to monitor the mining world hehehe, what happens in the "trading dimension" (where is full of shit and "abstract-manipulative-secret" words) correlates with the "mining dimension" ...in short, "mining dimension" is "one of the signals" where a trader should watch  

hehe, well I have been in this website since 2013, yeah good traders are well informed about mining because that is where have been the source of the coins, they need to be, trust me, but things have been changing due to pos and that has been bad to the ecosystem, any coin that doesn't need to be mined is bad, look what happened in 2017-2018, icos, none of them needed to be mined, look what happened, it crashed everything, people had no idea about it, they thought icos were like eth or btc and they bought without thinking, mining at least there is a total number of minted coins everyday, with things like defi we have no idea about if billions of coins can be created at whim, so you can't invest on that thing if you dont know where that thing is headed, defi and icos rules can change anytime, with pow rules take time to change and that is not easily changed. So if you understand about mining, you will be a good trader because you know the depths of it, its limitation and from where it can go. To me all coins that can't be mined are scams, personal opinion of course.

This is what a lot of the naive new people don't understand. Mined coins take minutes and sometimes hours of work to create and have a group of people (miners, pools) who support the coin. Plopping out 10 billion coins of some wonderful new coin that says it can do a myriad of things without having any functional implementation just makes it hopium. The quick traders will pass it around like a hot potato taking equity from naive new entrants looking for a quick win.

[philipma1957]

I almost want to buy a 3080 now, but fortunately for my wallet it's not available anywhere !

I will wait for AMD's offering to make a more informed choice, and maybe benefit from better prices/better cards.

So you plan to wait until Oct 28th.?

I guess a really large farm or one rig should wait.

But if you are doing two,three or four rigs.

why not do 1 rig now with the amd 5600

they make for very good four card rigs.

I use eight slot boards with a intel 4400t a stick of ram and a bitmain apw3+
four amd 5600 gpus
the rigs are about 1250 to build.

they use around 458  they do about 160mh they earn around $6.40 a day 12kwatts power at 10 cents is 1.20

so 5.20 profit so 240 days for payoff.

5600 are 6GB, I wouldn't buy them.

good more for me.

 as there is no issue in them eating up the dag for at least 2 years.  in that time my money will be made 2 maybe 3x.

[P00P135]

People said they wouldnt buy 1660's cause they were 6GB and i've already made my money 4x over on those and they still have a decent resell value. 

[philipma1957]

People said they wouldnt buy 1660's cause they were 6GB and i've already made my money 4x over on those and they still have a decent resell value.  

yep.  I am getting amd 5600 under 250 usd.

so 80mh for 500.  130 for mobo ram psu cpu or 1130 a 4 cardrig

 I Make 4 card rigs easy peasy to cool,

 160 mh earns about 160 x 0.0389 or $6.22 usd power cost is 12 kwatts a day or 1.20 so I clear 5 a day payout

is about 226 days for roi as I have a free power deal.

 I put in 5000 since august 1 and have got back 1600.00 as some days payouts were higher.

Any luck at all and gear is paid off by Jan 1