Can anyone give a wrong negative trust? Even when he is wrong?

[world1212]

Friends, I need your help I got a negative trust Which is completely wrong Which has given me a negative trust. I talked to him on his telegram. I asked him Why did you give me negative trust? He answered me I doubt you And then I asked him how He answered me Proof of registration you have given in bounty He matches someone else. I told him Thus many proofs of registration match with each other That's how they are all scammers Sir, this is wrong To give negative trust He replied, "I doubt you, and I gave it to you." Friends, I request you to help me with this To eliminate this negative trust

[hacker1001101001]

Is this your Twitter account ?

https://twitter.com/bitcoinfast1

Even the ETH address used in the spreadsheet linked to the negative trust reference match to the recently posted address of yours, it atleast means it's your address and you were the one who signed up and abused the bounty.

#PROOF OF REGISTRATION
Forum Username: world1212
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2792543
Telegram Username: @bitcoinfast1
Participated Campaigns: Twitter, Facebook, Article
ETH Wallet Address: 0x72F67Db9A7793252Bad63b22E37aC5c1E22F07BB

[Rikafip]

Trust is not moderated, so only person that can remove the negative trust is the person that left it. None of us can do much here in that regard, not even admins.

[AB de Royse777]

What language do you speak? You may ask someone who speaks in your language and also know English. Tell him what happened and ask him to give you the translation. It's hard to find a summary from your post.

[actmyname]

Trust is not moderated, so only person that can remove the negative trust is the person that left it. None of us can do much here in that regard, not even admins.

Well, that's untrue. Admins can remove negative trust. They just don't tend to do it unless it's egregious spam or something significantly malicious outside of words.

[dre1982]

Trust is not moderated, so only person that can remove the negative trust is the person that left it. None of us can do much here in that regard, not even admins.

Well, that's untrue. Admins can remove negative trust. They just don't tend to do it unless it's egregious spam or something significantly malicious outside of words.

Well then admins can remove all the negative trust spam of game-protect. He have been spamming negative trust to everyone who gave him negative trust which he deserved.

[Rikafip]

Trust is not moderated, so only person that can remove the negative trust is the person that left it. None of us can do much here in that regard, not even admins.

Well, that's untrue. Admins can remove negative trust. They just don't tend to do it unless it's egregious spam or something significantly malicious outside of words.

I had no idea that admins can do that, but I guess you learn something every day. Thanks for correcting me!


@world1212  Did bubbalex share you that proof of registration that you allegedly copied from another account, as I can't find anything wrong in that spreadsheet that is used as reference.

[YOSHIE]

@world1212, try to direct this thread to: @bubbalex, via telegram which you often use to communicate with him.

I am sure after you do, @bubbalex will see this thread, and will give clarity about you, that's what you can do right now, if he can't accept PM beginners.

[actmyname]

Well then admins can remove all the negative trust spam of game-protect. He have been spamming negative trust to everyone who gave him negative trust which he deserved.

Despite his negative feedback spam spanning three pages, this is still less spam than what I remember theymos removing.

If we take that as a lower bound, then game-protect's negative feedback will never be removed. It takes quite a bit of push for theymos to actually perform some restitution: see flags, spam, investor-based games board for examples.

[TheBeardedBaby]

I won't discuss the feedback itself, i think the neutral in this case could be enough for the evidence we have.
What i want to focus here is the usage of the reference link, it's pointing to a spreadsheet which for me is not a good practice at all.
Better open own thread with the all the proof and description and leave that as a reference link.

[bubbalex]

As far as I understand, I got into DT. I'm sending negative feedback only for myself in order to not allow these users into my further campaigns, I do sent feedback based on the suspicious activity, some of them are totally valid, some are not. Please, remove me from the DT list in order to not show my trust feedbacks by default, they might be totally inacurate.

In recent days, some people began to write to me with a request to remove feedback, I will not do this in general, because the situation with sarwari makes me think that in most cases I am right, but in some cases I'll change it to neutral. In any case, my goal was not to harm these people so that they could not participate in other campaigns too. Based on my feedback, I do not accept them in my campaigns and only in my own, based on the rules that are indicated in my bounty campaigns.

I will change some feedbacks to the neutral, instead negative.


UPD. Recent feedbacks without enough evidence changed to neutral, in future I will be more careful in giving negative feedbacks.

[TheBeardedBaby]

As far as I understand, I got into DT. I'm sending negative feedback only for myself in order to not allow these users into my further campaigns, I do sent feedback based on the suspicious activity, some of them are totally valid, some are not. Please, remove me from the DT list in order to not show my trust feedbacks by default, they might be totally inacurate.

You could remove yourself from eligible DT member if you don't meet the criteria, while i don't remember all the criteria, but the easiest way is remove your trust list.

I think it's easier just to sent a PM to theymos to blacklist you from the DT's, so you can keep your turst list as it is. If you remove your tust list and later you want to start building a new one, it's very easy to happen the same thing.

[TheBeardedBaby]

Would theymos blacklist you manually from DT? I never heard anyone trying to do that.

There are a few cases where people were blacklisted, some by request, some for abusing the trust.
I cannot give you example right now, but for sure I'll check it out when I have time, if someone doesn't do that before me.
But you can request to be removed from the DT lottery if you want, if theymos will approve it, that's a different story but if you have good enough reason, should be OK.

[bubbalex]

As far as I understand, I got into DT. I'm sending negative feedback only for myself in order to not allow these users into my further campaigns, I do sent feedback based on the suspicious activity, some of them are totally valid, some are not. Please, remove me from the DT list in order to not show my trust feedbacks by default, they might be totally inacurate.

You could remove yourself from eligible DT member if you don't meet the criteria, while i don't remember all the criteria, but the easiest way is remove your trust list.

I think it's easier just to sent a PM to theymos to blacklist you from the DT's, so you can keep your turst list as it is. If you remove your tust list and later you want to start building a new one, it's very easy to happen the same thing.

Would theymos blacklist you manually from DT? I never heard anyone trying to do that.

I just found out that one forum member added me to his trust list and therefore I became a DT, I asked him to remove me from there.

[Sanitough]

They can because they are in control of their account, they can put a feedback to any profile anytime they want, but the question should be, "is it ethical to put red trust without proof?, and my answer would be no, but like I said, we can't control what's on the mind of the rater but I'm sure DT members who trusted such account will remove him from their trust list if they found enough evidence a DT member abusing the trust system.

[bubbalex]

They can because they are in control of their account, they can put a feedback to any profile anytime they want, but the question should be, "is it ethical to put red trust without proof?, and my answer would be no, but like I said, we can't control what's on the mind of the rater but I'm sure DT members who trusted such account will remove him from their trust list if they found enough evidence a DT member abusing the trust system.

You can read my posts above to understand that I'm surely not going to abuse DT powers and already asked to remove me from DT.

[bubbalex]

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I removed, but ... your explanation that you give someone negative tags for yourself, not being sure that this user is who you think he is, may be regarded by someone as a trust abuse. Still, the trust system was not invented for personal experiments, but for the real reflection of the behavior and actions of a particular user.

You give people in some situations false negative tegs, even if not trustworthy. But I can show you many examples when DT members have negative tags similar users for such tags.

If you want to tags someone, do it in a neutral color, if you are sure of something, then red. Because if some user complains about you that you wrote to him unreasonably in the trust and you could prove it, you yourself can be painted for trust abuse.

Yes, I have already changed some feedback to the neutral and will be giving neutral feedback in future in case I'm not sure that user deserves negative feedback. That's why I don't want to be in DT, I don't have enough time and knowledge to be DT member now, I'm still learning. Thank you.

[Little Mouse]

Trust is not moderated, so only person that can remove the negative trust is the person that left it. None of us can do much here in that regard, not even admins.

Well, that's untrue. Admins can remove negative trust. They just don't tend to do it unless it's egregious spam or something significantly malicious outside of words.

Is there any such case where admin removed any feedback left by other user? It would be good to have an example of such case. I have one neg tag although I'm nit much concerned about that as it is not in trusted feedback (Have tried to reach him but no response).

[actmyname]

Is there any such case where admin removed any feedback left by other user? It would be good to have an example of such case. I have one neg tag although I'm nit much concerned about that as it is not in trusted feedback (Have tried to reach him but no response).

I do not recall the username, and it would be difficult to figure out who it was without directly asking theymos.

I'm certain that any rule-breaking feedback will be removed. For example, links to malware would definitely be something considered for removal.All in all, I would just toss out the blanket statement, "if there's any doubt, it's not happening."

[TheBeardedBaby]

I don't think feedback which are not "urgent" or unsafe will be removed. If you have been doxxed in your feedback which can lead to personal harm in a way, those things will be removed, but if we are talking about bullsh!t feedback like fake accusations, spam and even advertising, and do not have a higher risk for the user, will most likely not be.