you're making bitcoin complicated

[yulchatar]

Basically, I agree with some of the points of the author. When I decided to get to know bitcoin better, I was advised to start with free faucets, after which I was drawn into it. I wasn't disappointed, I didn't leave, as some write here. On the contrary, I got a passion, an incentive. I began to look for other methods to earn bitcoin, since I had no money to buy it. But of course I was lucky to have a senior teacher who helped me understand what bitcoin is and what to do with it.

[stomachgrowls]

If a newbie asks what is a good wallet to use?

Just simply talk about custodial and non-custodial wallets and give out some examples and he would do the rest yet it isnt really that much hard to understand if you do really have that common sense.
Even on the most basic example or definition.A human being would able to catch up. 

If a newbie asks how to earn bitcoin?

This is where lots of answers that you can possibly give on thats why i agree on the point that it shouldnt be directly point out on signature campaign.
Start from basic like on faucets even though it isnt really worth for the time anymore but it would be a stepping stone for him to learn.

If a newbie asks what good thing about bitcoin? anonymity?

Just give out the bitcoins whitepaper and just able to to read up that abstract or few sentences then he would completely understand.
No need to spoonfeed or explain it detail by detail because it isnt really hard for someone to understand.

[Viscore]

It gets complicated if a newbie would not listen carefully nor tried to understand what they heard or read. A teacher couldn't be good and see the good result of his/her student don't even understand what he/she teaches. Similarly, it gonna be a listener who has a problem or a coach itself.

It was a normal thing that newbie will be puzzled enough of what they've heard, that is why they keep asking but it does not mean that everything they've heard it makes them complicated, it is just them not clearly understand as they are bothered to the negativity and mix emotions.

[EdenHazard]

When things go against your ability then yeah people will start babbling.. it's complicated.. it's something you can't afford etc

Then how to deal with this matter? Simply upgrade yourself and there's no more words such complicated or something. It's not that hard to fully understand the whole concept of cryptocurrency, the whole concept of bitcoin!
You'll only feel struggling when you do nothing but wondering that 'this thing is too complicated to understand'

[BeManga]

im not just babbling that bitcoin is complicated
i can upgrade myself by learning more because im interested in it but what about those not interested
because to be honest bitcoin is really complicated especially to those not interested
i start this topic to learn how to make it interesting and easy and im still in the process
but thanks to the some of the reply i learn some from your opinion

[witcher_sense]

im not just babbling that bitcoin is complicated
i can upgrade myself by learning more because im interested in it but what about those not interested
because to be honest bitcoin is really complicated especially to those not interested
i start this topic to learn how to make it interesting and easy and im still in the process
but thanks to the some of the reply i learn some from your opinion

Bitcoin can be interesting for those searching for new investment opportunities. Bitcoin has proven many times that it can survive no matter how severe market conditions are. Bitcoin can be interesting for those searching for disruptive technologies. These technologies are often unnoticed by the vast majority of people. But later they change the world albeit it is usually a slow process. Bitcoin can be interesting for those searching for a tool with which they would be able to transact freely. It is a sad truth for people living under oppressive regimes or in sanctioned countries. They are out of the world economy, but still they are humans like you and me, they have a right to free speech and freedom of transactions. Necessity is driving them to learn bitcoin, not just curiousity. When your life depends on bitcoin, it doesn't matter for you how complex it is.

[shamimal93]

There is enough logic in your words.  Despite having enough arguments, I could not agree with your complete statement.  Although many of us are making Bitcoin harder and harder, there are some things we have to say hard.  If a new user asks which wallet is safe to keep bitcoin in, I think it is better to say the hardest wallet.  Because it reduces the fear of losing bitcoin.  If a new user asks me how to earn bitcoin, I will tell him about the signature. By doing so, he will get a much better idea about bitcoin.

[Oilacris]

im not just babbling that bitcoin is complicated
i can upgrade myself by learning more because im interested in it but what about those not interested
because to be honest bitcoin is really complicated especially to those not interested
i start this topic to learn how to make it interesting and easy and im still in the process
but thanks to the some of the reply i learn some from your opinion

Bitcoin can be interesting for those searching for new investment opportunities. Bitcoin has proven many times that it can survive no matter how severe market conditions are. Bitcoin can be interesting for those searching for disruptive technologies. These technologies are often unnoticed by the vast majority of people. But later they change the world albeit it is usually a slow process. Bitcoin can be interesting for those searching for a tool with which they would be able to transact freely. It is a sad truth for people living under oppressive regimes or in sanctioned countries. They are out of the world economy, but still they are humans like you and me, they have a right to free speech and freedom of transactions. Necessity is driving them to learn bitcoin, not just curiousity. When your life depends on bitcoin, it doesn't matter for you how complex it is.

It will really be on case to case basis and we do know that people does have different mindset and views in particular things that they do encounter.Some might get interested and some wont able to do so due to some factors that they are facing.

We can say that it isnt really that much complicated but the hardest thing to tell into someone is into those people who doesnt even know on what technology is or even the simpliest idea on how to deal with tech
specially on older people but since we are on a more hi-tech era then we can expect that there would be lots that who can easily catch up.

Telling them the basics might do but it will depend on how you do deliver or do explain up things to them.

[South Park]

Bitcoin user is making bitcoin complicated for a newbie
I discover that bitcoin is becoming more and more complicated not because it is really hard to understand
but instead those who are not new in bitcoin are making it complicated. (Even Myself  )
as I think a little bit deeper I realized it and plan to change my approach to the newbie as a self-reflection.
I want to learn more how can i make bitcoin newbie friendly as simplest as possible.

Example:

If a newbie asks what is a good wallet to use?
Bitcoin User will answer the hardware wallet which is not free. Yes it is safest but not a newbie-friendly

Instead of a web wallet that is free and easy to use. Every wallet has its own flaws in order to secure your bitcoin you have to learn how to use it and make it secure.

Sorry but this is not true, as people that have been in the market for a longer amount of time than a newbie we have the obligation to give the facts, if I was asked about the different wallets that exist I will without a doubt mention online wallets but I will not recommend them at all, and we all know the reasons why, not only you are trusting another entity with your private keys, the risk you get hacked with an online wallet grow up exponentially, in fact if you take the time to look at most of the hacks that are reported on the forum you will see in most cases people were using an online wallet so I cannot recommended them no matter how easy to use they could be.

[Rengga Jati]

You may think that telling newbies about Bitcoin and this forum should be in a friendly-easy newbie. But remember to tell them the truth, tell them the safest and best ways to be in. They are newbies and need to tell the ways to become better I reaching or earning the BTC.

If a newbie asks what is a good wallet to use?

Well yeah, hardware wallet may be friendly-newbies, but doesn't mean that you are better to suggest web wallets. Hw if they got scammed or their BTC lost? Will you take the responsibility if they are asking for it?
You may not need to make them use a hardware wallet, but there is an electrum wallet to be better.

If a newbie asks how to earn bitcoin?

Tell them that there is no easy way to earn Bitcoin if you are newbies. You know, it is better to tell them about the signature campaign or other campaign. Will they be only newbies or they are better to learn and learn more? I think that better tot ell about the knowledge at first because they can start learning from the basics and try to make a good member here. Doing faucet is very wasting your time and you may not get much money for it. SO, I personally will not suggest this.

[JuSayCo]

Let's better put it this way, when a newbie first entered in a crypto currency world, she/he should not expect that everything here is so easy. Its not being so harsh or something, but a newbie needs to understand the kind of environment, features and risk that bitcoin have. So she/he will be ready/prepared to some difficult scenarios along the way. Its also best that a newbie will take much research and not just relying to someone to teach him/her. Personal research and constant reading about bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies can help a lot for the crypto journey. For me, its better to struggle at first knowing all the difficult things here and learned from my mistakes, and become better as times goes on, reaping the fruit of my labor.

[Janation]

If you are new to crypto world, it would be advisable to spend some time to learn about this topic. I dont think that it is nice to blame old users for topics which are common, but you still dont understand them well

If you are interested in cryptocurrency, you'll find a way to gain knowledge.

There are a lot of ways for you to gain knowledge since Bitcoin is not a new technology anymore. A lot of books that could explain well what it is, the more you are interested in these cryptocurrencies the deeper your interest is in this, and the more you are desperate to gain more things about it. It is not always this forum, there are a lot of other sources we can use.

[LogitechMouse]

Instead of a web wallet that is free and easy to use. Every wallet has its own flaws in order to secure your bitcoin you have to learn how to use it and make it secure.

If you are a newbie, you would need the most secured wallet possible because chances of getting scammed are high.
Why would you entrust your Bitcoin to a wallet that is being held by a company itself. Web Wallet?? Just teach the newbie how to use hardware wallet in the simplest way instead of letting them store to a wallet where it isn't trusted. They always say, not your keys not  your coins.

If a newbie asks how to earn bitcoin?
Bitcoin user will say Signature campaign which is also not newbie friendly because you cant join the signature campaign now if you are a newbie.until they discover the altcoin campaign where they can join but will be disappointed sooner or later because of not getting paid and leave bitcoin and tell that it is a scam.

Instead, teach them one of the basic ways to earn bitcoin which is micro earning where they can earn small amount of bitcoin like faucets for them to test bitcoin

I'm against the people who are saying that Signature campaign is the only way to earn Bitcoin.
Instead of teaching them that way, I'd rather let them know the basics of Bitcoin first until they will know how to earn it themselves. Faucets?? They are a complete waste of time. Your time isn't worth it if you are doing faucets unless you opened maybe 100 sites and doing it simultaneously.

instead, teach them the basic about bitcoin which is a payment method where they can use online or they can do a person to person transaction

Basics.
Just teach them the basics of it and let them do the rest. In my part, I learned the basics of it myself. I did some research and at least I know most of the basics of it. A newbie needs to do a research if they really want to learn and don't spoonfeed them.

[The cure]

Bitcoin is not difficult to understand, it just need some effort for them to learn about it. They will need much of patience in learning or ask someone who know more about it.

[Ucy]

im not just babbling that bitcoin is complicated
i can upgrade myself by learning more because im interested in it but what about those not interested
because to be honest bitcoin is really complicated especially to those not interested I start this topic to learn how to make it interesting and easy and im still in the process
but thanks to the some of the reply i learn some from your opinion

Maybe we could make them interested in Bitcoin?


Concerning your main post:

If a newbie asks what is a good wallet to use?
Bitcoin User will answer the hardware wallet which is not free. Yes it is safest but not a newbie-friendly
Instead of a web wallet that is free and easy to use. Every wallet has its own flaws in order to secure your bitcoin you have to learn how to use it and make it secure.

I think I would only recommend webwallets newbies can safely use without sacrificing their fund's safety, self-custody right, privacy/anonymity, trustlessness/permissionless, etc. I wonder how many web wallets can offer those ^.

... because if im the newbie why do I need to become anonymous if im not planning to do bad things.

Informing them about the importance of having true privacy while they use Bitcoin would be necessary.    In regards to Anonymity, i don't think it's really wise to attach your real name to the funds or assets in your public addresses, on a public network. I think that's part of reasons it'd be important to inform them about the anonimity feature of Bitcoin... or wallets could just guarantee the anonymity by default so we don't bother too much telling them about the feature until maybe they're grown in this space.

I think there should be ways to simplify things without omitting those important features of Bitcoin

[blckhawk]

If a newbie asks how to earn bitcoin?
Bitcoin user will say Signature campaign which is also not newbie friendly because you cant join the signature campaign now if you are a newbie.until they discover the altcoin campaign where they can join but will be disappointed sooner or later because of not getting paid and leave bitcoin and tell that it is a scam.

Instead, teach them one of the basic ways to earn bitcoin which is micro earning where they can earn small amount of bitcoin like faucets for them to test bitcoin

Even they were a newbie they can still participate though. They might not able to eligible in a signature campaign but there's have twitter campaign, Facebook campaign, telegram, youtube, and more.
Even if you have a newbie account you could still use it to apply on those said type of campaign. And if you have other sets of skills like programming and such then you could post in the Service board and sell your service.
There's a lot of ways to earn even if you were just a newbie all you need to do is to explore all the board in this forum.

[DooMAD]

For the topic as a whole, it highlights the pitfalls that generally come with new users having preconceived ideas about how it should all work.  It's important to keep an open mind, as it helps when you're trying to understand the differences between Bitcoin and traditional payment methods that you might be more accustomed to.  There's normally a very good reason behind why we do things a bit differently in crypto and, for newer users, it's not always immediately clear what those reasons are until you really start to understand how it all works. 

It's certainly possible to fall back on old habits and try to treat Bitcoin in the same way you would handle your traditional banking and savings, but there are notable risks in doing that once you've realised that you aren't afforded the same consumer protections here.  It might seem easier to do what you've always done before.  But it's generally safer to learn some new habits and do things the right way.

As for the discussion around earning through bounty campaigns, please try to keep in mind that while some opportunities are there right now, don't expect that to always be the case.  Many of these bounties may well end up the same way as faucets at some point in future, meaning they may prove not to be worth the time and effort you need to invest over the long term.  Due to supply and demand, it's not realistic to believe the current payment rates will continue forever.  As competition increases and more people are trying to take part, it's only natural that people looking to advertise their service can get away with paying smaller amounts because they know some people will still be prepared to do the same work for less reward.  There's also going to reach a point of saturation where they simply don't need more participants for their campaign.  Consider yourselves warned, if you're going around telling everyone they can easily make money doing this, some of them are going to end up disappointed and might hold you responsible for offering bad advice.

[Zionatin]

Signature campaigns are not really a way to make bitcoin. Instead, it is a way to support altcoins and gain some in return instead of investing. It should be seen rather as a supportive investment than a method of making bitcoin. It's better to work online if you plan on making bitcoin. There many options available it's up to you.

[finaleshot2016]

Since this is a forum, I doubt that all of those replies have the same complex answers. That's the reason why we need to discuss a specific thing and he can ask again if he's still confused, and that how the discussion will work on this platform. People have different answers and experience of using bitcoin and for sure that there are complex and basic replies on someone's thread.

Bitcoin users don't make things complicated because they're always suggesting what's better for them unless the OP addresses some condition that won't be able to provide the suggestion.

If a newbie asks how to earn bitcoin?
Bitcoin user will say Signature campaign which is also not newbie friendly because you cant join the signature campaign now if you are a newbie.until they discover the altcoin campaign where they can join but will be disappointed sooner or later because of not getting paid and leave bitcoin and tell that it is a scam.

Instead, teach them one of the basic ways to earn bitcoin which is micro earning where they can earn small amount of bitcoin like faucets for them to test bitcoin

In this community, users are already assuming that they're here because of money and I guess newbie knows bitcoin as an asset. Therefore, it's obviously can't be achieved by simple things unless they risk their time and effort claiming free BTC without any idea if it's legit or not. Those simple questions can be search in google but if he/she asked it on this forum, therefore he's looking a way to earn here in this platform.

[BITCOIN4X]

A beginner can still use google to get information if he only asks simple questions like OP. Here we all need a process and so does a beginner. I don't think these people have made beginner feel complicated to get started with bitcoin as the answer given are exactly what beginner need.
So far I haven't listened to complaint from newbies that they are annoyed by answers provided by experienced contributors. I think all forum contributor have the best intention to teach as many beginners as possible, and beginner still need some effort and interest. There's nothing wrong with the answer and I don't take it as complicated as you think.