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September 04, 2020, 04:00:38 PM
Merited by LFC_Bitcoin (2), BitMaxz (1), TheBeardedBaby (1), YOSHIE (1), friends1980 (1)
 #1

What a struggle it has been to get my last 20 merits to get to my 2,000. Well, I guess I didn't really try too hard, as I wasn't posting in the merit earning threads. Merits are a recognition that a poster's opinions are of benefit to the forum, and I suspect that most members discredit the personal research that I have done into various health issues. But then, this is a Bitcoin and crypto forum, so I should really be contributing in those topics. I've just announced that I am going "Bitcoin only" in accepting payments for domain names in a domainers' forum, and I'll let you guys know how that goes.

Now the question is - can I behave myself, and stick to Crypto and economics. Maybe I will just slip in a few Knights Templar and the origins of Unicorns threads on the way.

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September 04, 2020, 04:12:29 PM
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Does this mean you're up 1500 merits since the systems introduction?

I'd say that's pretty impressive. I'm normally targeting "curious newbies" and people on the tech boards so I'm probably guilty of not being fair to some legendafies in my merit dispursements.

And meh on the health research stuff. Everyone gets an opinion and to make their own decisions when it comes to their health. Your autonomy rights are protected by law.
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September 04, 2020, 04:14:40 PM
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I suspect that most members discredit the personal research that I have done into various health issues.
I may disagree with some of your opinions on health issues but I have also gotten lots of helpful information; for one, I got connected to Dr. John Campbell's YouTube channel through your threads, and it has been a great resource for useful content related to global health situations.
Congrats on your merit achievement. Your contributions would be valuable whichever board you stick to.

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September 04, 2020, 04:27:00 PM
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I didn't even know you were posting specifically about health stuff. But anyway, if you like posting about health stuff and if you actually enjoy researching about it, then why stop? We don't really need merits as Legendary members anyway(though I'll admit receiving merits makes me feel good a bit).

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September 04, 2020, 04:32:09 PM
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Thanks for the kind words, and I did only get 500 merits in the air drop. 1,500 is pretty small beer when compared with the statisticians here. Smiley

I'm actually not too keen on John Campbell. I think John Bergman is far more useful when it comes to natural health issues, but he is anti-vax and anti-Pharma, so he gets demoted quite a lot. The Irishman, Ivor Cummins ( the Fat Emperor) interviews some very interesting and unusual medical people.

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September 04, 2020, 04:43:17 PM
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It is my congratulations for you JetCash!

Data is newest Friday merit data dump (hours ago).

From the weekly merit plot, I see a decrease since (second quarter, maybe) 2019 so I guess you are more actively posting in 2018 that reflects on your earned merits in that year.


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       |    week   weekly_merit   summerit |
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   90. |  2018w4             37       1499 |
  160. |  2018w5             34       1499 |
  450. |  2018w6             36       1499 |
  486. |  2018w7             65       1499 |
  662. |  2018w8             16       1499 |
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  785. |  2018w9              3       1499 |
  911. | 2018w10             40       1499 |
 1165. | 2018w11             16       1499 |
 1229. | 2018w12             19       1499 |
 1407. | 2018w13              9       1499 |
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 1625. | 2018w14              6       1499 |
 1651. | 2018w15              6       1499 |
 1820. | 2018w16             24       1499 |
 1980. | 2018w17             14       1499 |
 2241. | 2018w18              7       1499 |
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 2293. | 2018w19              1       1499 |
 2473. | 2018w20             37       1499 |
 2613. | 2018w21              9       1499 |
 2752. | 2018w22             14       1499 |
 2858. | 2018w23             25       1499 |
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 3019. | 2018w24              5       1499 |
 3265. | 2018w25             18       1499 |
 3348. | 2018w26             29       1499 |
 3452. | 2018w27             36       1499 |
 3634. | 2018w28             30       1499 |
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 3835. | 2018w29              4       1499 |
 3928. | 2018w30             18       1499 |
 4083. | 2018w31             32       1499 |
 4288. | 2018w32             17       1499 |
 4467. | 2018w33             23       1499 |
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 4642. | 2018w34             13       1499 |
 4658. | 2018w35             10       1499 |
 4838. | 2018w36             19       1499 |
 5005. | 2018w37             12       1499 |
 5141. | 2018w38             32       1499 |
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 5255. | 2018w39             15       1499 |
 5411. | 2018w40              3       1499 |
 5688. | 2018w41             15       1499 |
 5821. | 2018w42              2       1499 |
 5970. | 2018w43             10       1499 |
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 6029. | 2018w44             11       1499 |
 6269. | 2018w45              7       1499 |
 6334. | 2018w46             20       1499 |
 6580. | 2018w47             14       1499 |
 6622. | 2018w48             19       1499 |
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 6820. | 2018w49             13       1499 |
 6931. | 2018w50              1       1499 |
 7152. | 2018w51              6       1499 |
 7296. | 2018w52              9       1499 |
 7406. |  2019w1             14       1499 |
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 7600. |  2019w2             57       1499 |
 7694. |  2019w3             19       1499 |
 7830. |  2019w4             12       1499 |
 8009. |  2019w5             21       1499 |
 8249. |  2019w6              4       1499 |
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 8291. |  2019w7             28       1499 |
 8505. |  2019w8             19       1499 |
 8682. |  2019w9             15       1499 |
 8716. | 2019w10             30       1499 |
 8869. | 2019w11             27       1499 |
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 9091. | 2019w12              7       1499 |
 9177. | 2019w13              3       1499 |
 9322. | 2019w14              0       1499 |
 9506. | 2019w15             11       1499 |
 9634. | 2019w16              2       1499 |
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 9767. | 2019w17              3       1499 |
10035. | 2019w18              2       1499 |
10134. | 2019w19              2       1499 |
10248. | 2019w20              6       1499 |
10367. | 2019w21              0       1499 |
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10601. | 2019w22              3       1499 |
10683. | 2019w23              9       1499 |
10818. | 2019w24              7       1499 |
11017. | 2019w25             12       1499 |
11205. | 2019w26              4       1499 |
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11311. | 2019w27              3       1499 |
11515. | 2019w28             13       1499 |
11637. | 2019w29              6       1499 |
11731. | 2019w30              2       1499 |
11872. | 2019w31              3       1499 |
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12092. | 2019w32              2       1499 |
12239. | 2019w33              4       1499 |
12313. | 2019w34              8       1499 |
12526. | 2019w35              8       1499 |
12618. | 2019w36              8       1499 |
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12816. | 2019w37             11       1499 |
12925. | 2019w38              6       1499 |
13175. | 2019w39              5       1499 |
13246. | 2019w40             10       1499 |
13416. | 2019w41              2       1499 |
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13532. | 2019w42              3       1499 |
13680. | 2019w43              7       1499 |
13826. | 2019w44              5       1499 |
14017. | 2019w45              0       1499 |
14103. | 2019w46             12       1499 |
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14352. | 2019w47              2       1499 |
14495. | 2019w48              0       1499 |
14607. | 2019w49              7       1499 |
14814. | 2019w50              0       1499 |
14919. | 2019w51              2       1499 |
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15141. | 2019w52              2       1499 |
15246. |  2020w1              1       1499 |
15383. |  2020w2              4       1499 |
15497. |  2020w3              4       1499 |
15702. |  2020w4             38       1499 |
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15855. |  2020w5              1       1499 |
15940. |  2020w6              2       1499 |
16164. |  2020w7              6       1499 |
16213. |  2020w8              6       1499 |
16390. |  2020w9              2       1499 |
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16643. | 2020w10              7       1499 |
16751. | 2020w11             12       1499 |
16811. | 2020w12              4       1499 |
17025. | 2020w13              1       1499 |
17117. | 2020w14             10       1499 |
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17386. | 2020w15              7       1499 |
17450. | 2020w16              0       1499 |
17566. | 2020w17              0       1499 |
17832. | 2020w18              0       1499 |
17977. | 2020w19              0       1499 |
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18099. | 2020w20              0       1499 |
18279. | 2020w21              0       1499 |
18337. | 2020w22              1       1499 |
18594. | 2020w23              0       1499 |
18627. | 2020w24              0       1499 |
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18786. | 2020w25              0       1499 |
18999. | 2020w26              0       1499 |
19131. | 2020w27             10       1499 |
19211. | 2020w28             25       1499 |
19461. | 2020w29             20       1499 |
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19525. | 2020w30              6       1499 |
19668. | 2020w31             11       1499 |
19921. | 2020w32              3       1499 |
20021. | 2020w33              2       1499 |
20161. | 2020w34              4       1499 |
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20398. | 2020w35              0       1499 |
20481. | 2020w36              3       1499 |
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weekly_merit |       137  10.94161  11.79093         7         2        15         0        65
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September 04, 2020, 04:56:23 PM
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I think quite a lot came from my fit to talk and other projects,and I became a bit disenchanted with those. The blogs and forums were getting a lot of spam, and very sporadic support. I wouldn't mind reviving Fit to Talk and the Crypto Coin Tree.  The lock downs changed a few things for me, and I decided to move further into off grid living. It is a far healthier life style, but I need to install a couple if solar panels to generate my own electricity. Maybe I could use those to power that ASIC miner that I was given, that is if I can find what I did with it. Smiley

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September 04, 2020, 06:03:25 PM
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(...) I suspect that most members discredit the personal research that I have done into various health issues.

I for one do agree with a lot of your personal points of view concerning the Covid hype. It's just that I don't see any reason why I would come to the Bitcointalk forum to discuss other stuff except for crypto stuff. I see the Serious and Ivory boards also as boards where crypto stuff can be debated with people who at least try to read the whole thread and do not spam or post one-liners. It's why I post my judicial topics in there, otherwise they are spammed to off-topicness within hours. I do not see these boards as "Off-Topic for high leveled members" and I think some of the subjects you post about in Serious and Ivory are imho off-topic. Do not be offended plz, because "off-topic" is in no way synonymous of "low-quality", and I'd never claim for a second that your posts are of low quality. It's just that they are not about crypto directly (but maybe they are indirectly).

Anyway, congratz with your impressive Merit level - and if you're in lack of love with 2000+ Merits, then how do I (and others) have to feel about having "only" 400+ Merit? Cool. I'm quite sure that you're getting all the love you need. Wink Let people disagree with you from time to time. You won't be receiving Merits for certain points of view, but at least you'll keep the debating flame burning, and that's what this forum is all about.

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September 04, 2020, 06:17:56 PM
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I think I use some of the threads and posts as an alternative bit of social interaction. Sometimes I spend quite long hours on the computer, and it makes a nice break. Often if I visit people, they seem to have the TV on all the time, and it isn't very often that there is anything interesting on there. Then I might get involved in researching things like the Knights Templar, and their subsequent evolution into controlling the EU and the UK amongst other countries. It's quite difficult to introduce that into a social conversation, as most people don't seem to go much further than talking about Trump's hairstyle or similar topics of world shattering importance. They also seem to be more concerned with the colour and decoration of their face masks, rather than their efficacy.

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September 04, 2020, 06:26:19 PM
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Maybe I will just slip in a few Knights Templar and the origins of Unicorns threads on the way.
Do whatever feels right to you, Jet Cash--I always enjoy reading your posts regardless of what they're about.

And yeah, I've slowed down a lot on the merit-earning myself, but I don't care one whit.  If there was a rank above Legendary that I could be striving for, then I might be more interested in earning them but there isn't.  Nor am I trying to compete with anyone else with respect to merits.  In fact, I'd prefer someone give a lower-ranked member some merits instead of me if it came down to a choice between the two.

I for one do agree with a lot of your personal points of view concerning the Covid hype. It's just that I don't see any reason why I would come to the Bitcointalk forum to discuss other stuff except for crypto stuff.
All of that stuff--COVID-19, the upcoming US election, and everything aside from bitcoin or altcoins should be relegated to the Off-Topic and P&S sections.  I don't post in Ivory Tower or Serious Discussion, because the crypto discussions there are usually over my head and everything else is non-crypto stuff that I don't care to share my opinions about.

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September 04, 2020, 07:09:00 PM
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I think I use some of the threads and posts as an alternative bit of social interaction. Sometimes I spend quite long hours on the computer, and it makes a nice break. ~snip~ Knights Templar, and their subsequent evolution into controlling the EU and the UK amongst other countries. It's quite difficult to introduce that into a social conversation ~snip~

I've made some random topics round here in the past (most on serious and ivory) - I remebmer a few chemistry topics and one on wind speeds.

I'm the same with the TV thing, I don't really unserstand leaving it on in the background but I know a lot of poeple do.

You're better off mading spontaneous topics and just leaving them where they are - even if theyre' not of interest now someone will probably comment something at some point.



There are no rules outside of the mining boards against making topics that are of a similar nation (but aren'tt he same in a material aspect).



Also on the antipharma aspect, I think a lot of drugs are overprescribed or cause other problems. I saw a ted talk on statins a while back that looked interesting but didn't look further into it, also knowing people from a clinical psychology background it seems some conditions are  over diagnosed (but I wouldn't want to comment much on that because most are meant to be on medication - it's a slim majority though who get an accurate diagnosis).
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September 04, 2020, 07:20:28 PM
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I don't think it matters anyways. There's no use to merits other than you sharing it to others. I'd honestly just tell you to post where you feel comfortable with, don't worry about merit, you're doing just fine even without it.

As someone who doesn't receive merit alot, it doesn't affect me at all, so just you do you fam.

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Jet cash doesn't need merits to get recognized, avatar is more than enough. Wink

Sometimes I had such thoughts as well, some legendaries are not receiving enough merits just because they had no more rank to reach so it is important to add one more rank to bring the race towards merits or legendaries should not worry about their merits anymore just be themselves forever?!

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September 04, 2020, 09:00:13 PM
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Also on the antipharma aspect, I think a lot of drugs are overprescribed or cause other problems.
Oh, I'd love to discuss that--but I'm not a member of this forum to chat with people about those sorts of issues.  I'm here to talk and learn about bitcoin (and crypto in general).  Unfortunately I spend so much time on bitcointalk that I don't think I'd have much time left to contribute to even one other forum.  Oh well.

Sometimes I had such thoughts as well, some legendaries are not receiving enough merits just because they had no more rank to reach so it is important to add one more rank to bring the race towards merits or legendaries should not worry about their merits anymore just be themselves forever?!
I'm not quite sure what you're saying as a whole here, but I really wish Theymos would add a rank above Legendary (or restructure the ranking system entirely--a complete overhaul wouldn't be too bad IMO).  Then again, I've said this before:  the number of Legendary members is probably going to shrink over time, as older ones drop out via attrition and new ones are made at an extremely low rate.  In a few years, you might not see a lot of Legendaries posting on bitcointalk, but we'll see.

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I think I use some of the threads and posts as an alternative bit of social interaction. Sometimes I spend quite long hours on the computer, and it makes a nice break. Often if I visit people, they seem to have the TV on all the time, and it isn't very often that there is anything interesting on there. Then I might get involved in researching things like the Knights Templar, and their subsequent evolution into controlling the EU and the UK amongst other countries. It's quite difficult to introduce that into a social conversation, as most people don't seem to go much further than talking about Trump's hairstyle or similar topics of world shattering importance. They also seem to be more concerned with the colour and decoration of their face masks, rather than their efficacy.

I stopped watching tv 8-9 years ago and I feel the same about it like you. I purposely turn the tv if it is on in my living room when I have people coming. I hate when I talk to people and they are half listening, half watching tv and not really engaged into a conversation. Naturally in that kind of environment and that type of people you can't hope to have a proper meaningful conversation, let alone reach topics like Templar Knights and such.

My bubble of friends has shrinked to one hand in the last 5 years especially and to be honest it feels much better that way. You don't waste energy on zombies and energy vampires, focus more on yourself and talk only when you really want to. No more listening to shit about daily stuff that is spoon fed to regular Joe's.
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Sometimes I had such thoughts as well, some legendaries are not receiving enough merits just because they had no more rank to reach so it is important to add one more rank to bring the race towards merits or legendaries should not worry about their merits anymore just be themselves forever?!
I'm not quite sure what you're saying as a whole here, but I really wish Theymos would add a rank above Legendary (or restructure the ranking system entirely--a complete overhaul wouldn't be too bad IMO).  Then again, I've said this before:  the number of Legendary members is probably going to shrink over time, as older ones drop out via attrition and new ones are made at an extremely low rate.  In a few years, you might not see a lot of Legendaries posting on bitcointalk, but we'll see.
I meant to say that either we need to have one more rank above the legendary or the legendaries should not care about their merit counts anymore to overcome such feelings.If we didn't implement the merit system then by now we might have more legendaries than member and newbies, so the merit system is working but may need a tweak in this particular case but only theymos can decide what can be done.

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September 05, 2020, 01:19:23 AM
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I meant to say that either we need to have one more rank above the legendary or the legendaries should not care about their merit counts anymore to overcome such feelings.If we didn't implement the merit system then by now we might have more legendaries than member and newbies, so the merit system is working but may need a tweak in this particular case but only theymos can decide what can be done.
I don't really think of a new rank. It seems to be unnecessary (for me at least). I have been in the forum since 2017, not long enough compare to other old-era Legendaries but I can realize most of Legendaries on the forum. It is a kind of Recognition Badge that is enough.

My joy is fighting for my unofficial position in top ratings:
You know, it is more interesting and competitive than a new rank -- you can not surpass/ beat the others in one day, especially with stats like median & interquartile range.


More important: Merits, rank don't reflect exactly who you are and level of your contribution on the forum.

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I think quite a lot came from my fit to talk and other projects,and I became a bit disenchanted with those. The blogs and forums were getting a lot of spam, and very sporadic support. I wouldn't mind reviving Fit to Talk and the Crypto Coin Tree.  The lock downs changed a few things for me, and I decided to move further into off grid living. It is a far healthier life style, but I need to install a couple if solar panels to generate my own electricity. Maybe I could use those to power that ASIC miner that I was given, that is if I can find what I did with it. Smiley
Where ever it cam from -it. Should/must have been deserving- you are very much active in -serious discussion, ivory tower- board, and this board has less traffic/attention - which should not be - is it because of signature are not shown?. Having your  opinion -even if it doesn't tally with people 's opinion- is character, it might make you look -stubborn/grumpy-.  I think the value wasn't measured or appreciated in merit,  but for those who saw it -the post- and something new got known.
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I didn't even know you were posting specifically about health stuff. But anyway, if you like posting about health stuff and if you actually enjoy researching about it, then why stop? We don't really need merits as Legendary members anyway(though I'll admit receiving merits makes me feel good a bit).

Well he don't need merits to rank up because he is already at the highest possible rank and secondly he is not in any signature campaign which requires certain number of merits in the last 120 days.
He is posting good stuff about health and those who are interested follow his posts and may never look how many merits he is getting for his posts.
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I didn't even know you were posting specifically about health stuff. But anyway, if you like posting about health stuff and if you actually enjoy researching about it, then why stop? We don't really need merits as Legendary members anyway(though I'll admit receiving merits makes me feel good a bit).
Even lower ranks feel good when receiving merits like me when I got my merits few days ago. It may be true merits is not much use for legendary rank but merit doesn't have a rank barrier where you should only send merit to hero member rank and lower but it's not. Merit is for everyone who created a thread that is helpful and as what FIFA worldcup mentioned about merit within 120 days requirement  to join signature campaigns so legendary rank are no exception.

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