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Question: Do you need a coin that does not have negative volatility?
Is it possible? - 3 (27.3%)
If not possible, why? - 3 (27.3%)
Questions of an amateur, what do you think? - 5 (45.5%)
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September 07, 2020, 07:11:41 PM
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I think thats very unlikely because trading law is not the case. When the demand for a coin goes up, the price will go up, and if there are many people selling at the same time the price will go down. Even a stable coin will still experience volatility according to current market condition. Watch the USDT price when the bitcoin price goes up and the bitcoin price goes down. So whatever your opinion is about a coin that doesnt have negative volatility, I think its very unlikely for the community to accept it. I would think its part of a scam with false promises.

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September 07, 2020, 11:55:31 PM
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In fact, stable coins also experience the same thing.
Especially if it is a cryptocurrency where volatility is one of the basic characteristics. It's true as others have said, it will be difficult to get coins that are always on a positive trend, especially because the price really depends on the market. of course, the sell and buy orders will continue. And can you and want to buy and hold a coin without selling it? Someone will of course sell them, especially traders, where they take advantage of the volatility to get profits. Here, I haven't found any crypto that does not have negative volatility.

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September 08, 2020, 12:17:57 AM
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Do you need a coin that does not have negative volatility?

1. Is it possible?
2. If not possible, why?
Questions of an amateur, what do you think?
What do you mean by negative volatility? Volatility means the price will go up and down, but if you weigh the overall movement of bitcoin for instance, you can say it's positive especially for long term.

For other coins, it's hard to find that as if bitcoin is already volatile, altcoins are more volatile.


Not a stablecoin pegged to the dollar or fiat.

There's no volatility for stable coins, so for sure this is not what you are trying to imply or ask.
You are right that stablecoins have no volatility, they have another drawback, they can be reset to zero, all Stablecoins that are allegedly provided by the "ghost of money" buried in an unknown place and whose action can be covered up at any time, as they are manually controlled and who is responsible for their release, is prohibited then personal responsibility.
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September 08, 2020, 12:45:23 AM
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For cryptocurrency there is always going to be volatility, that's part of it. Investors profit from those fluctuations

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If the cryptocurrency is considered as not a stable asset for playing on the stock exchange, then you are right, but then it is not suitable as a reliable currency that can be stored, which means that it will not be accepted as a reliable collateral and settlements on it.

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September 08, 2020, 04:15:50 AM
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How would be a volatility be negative? If you mean very low volatility, for a such to coin exist, it should be pegged to an index of a lot of stable assets and currency. A coin that derives it's value from say a lot of fiat and commodities could be less volatile. The volatility also depends on what you compare it with. For anything with a supply and demand, there would be volatility.
Here, negative volatility most likely means a periodic decline in the price of a cryptocurrency, that is,  not only an upward price movement. Of course this is not possible. Cryptocurrency attracts the attention of participants in the cryptocurrency market not only by the fact that it is growing rapidly in price, but also by its price decrease. In this case, we have the opportunity not only to sell cryptocurrency at an increased price, but also buy at a low price during periods of its fall.
Cryptocurrency operates on the basis of supply and demand, and this always implies the rise and fall of its price.

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September 08, 2020, 07:43:09 AM
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In the market, prices will always move positively and negatively and I think these price movements are common. Prices are influenced by supply and demand if the token does not have a balanced supply and supply, the price will always move towards positive or negative and in my opinion it depends on market or investor sentiment

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September 08, 2020, 10:57:53 PM
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1. Possible and you can see this but with a regulated coin by the government.

They were not considered as the stable coins but they're called the CBDC backed up by the government. Well, any developer can do this as long as they want to make but without strong backing up, it will still be useless.

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September 08, 2020, 11:21:43 PM
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Do you need a coin that does not have negative volatility?

1. Is it possible?
2. If not possible, why?
Questions of an amateur, what do you think?

Not a stablecoin pegged to the dollar or fiat.

Definite no!

1. Yes, its possible but its definitely a ponzi
2. Healthy market does really involved organic traffic or market activity via sellers and buyers.

No comment about stablecoins since i didnt able to touch this stuff since im on this crypto world.

Coin doesnt have negative volatility is just simply a scam or it cant really be called a market in the first place.

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September 08, 2020, 11:28:54 PM
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In the market, prices will always move positively and negatively and I think these price movements are common. Prices are influenced by supply and demand if the token does not have a balanced supply and supply, the price will always move towards positive or negative and in my opinion it depends on market or investor sentiment

Almost all alts went thru these 2 phases, positive and negative. So I'm not really sure what the OP is trying to ask here. One should not look into the volatility aspect of the coin, as it depends on the market situation. However, if you will look more in the actual use case of the coin, you will get the idea if they will survive long or not.

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September 08, 2020, 11:39:35 PM
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Do you need a coin that does not have negative volatility?

For what's the use or purpose?

From an investment point of view, mainly for traders, it's a good choice that a coin that is heavily volatile in order to take advantage of buy and sell. That's what makes them be called a trader in the first place.

Maybe, try to broaden your concern for much better response. What are you really trying to pinpoint?

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September 09, 2020, 12:57:34 AM
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Do you need a coin that does not have negative volatility?

For what's the use or purpose?

From an investment point of view, mainly for traders, it's a good choice that a coin that is heavily volatile in order to take advantage of buy and sell. That's what makes them be called a trader in the first place.

Maybe, try to broaden your concern for much better response. What are you really trying to pinpoint?
Such a coin is needed, first of all, for stable and reliable security or keeping or pledge of your investments. Then big business will come to the capitalization of the cryptocurrency if it is sure that its investments are reliably secured and under no circumstances can be zeroed or lost due to negative market volatility.
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September 09, 2020, 01:23:38 AM
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I think thats very unlikely because trading law is not the case. When the demand for a coin goes up, the price will go up, and if there are many people selling at the same time the price will go down. Even a stable coin will still experience volatility according to current market condition. Watch the USDT price when the bitcoin price goes up and the bitcoin price goes down. So whatever your opinion is about a coin that doesnt have negative volatility, I think its very unlikely for the community to accept it. I would think its part of a scam with false promises.
Strangely enough, everyone unanimously argues that the future of decentralized finance is a crypto currency and at the same time advocates its volatility. Would you like the crypto money you receive for your work tomorrow to cost less than today or even devalue depending on the market?
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September 09, 2020, 01:58:29 AM
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Any asset base is always subject to volatility, with fluctuations connected to the conditions and occurences happening in the rest of the world. what are you really basing your query on?
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September 09, 2020, 02:40:39 AM
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Do you need a coin that does not have negative volatility?

1. Is it possible?
2. If not possible, why?
Questions of an amateur, what do you think?

Not a stablecoin pegged to the dollar or fiat.

Definite no!

1. Yes, its possible but its definitely a ponzi
2. Healthy market does really involved organic traffic or market activity via sellers and buyers.

No comment about stablecoins since i didnt able to touch this stuff since im on this crypto world.

Coin doesnt have negative volatility is just simply a scam or it cant really be called a market in the first place.
Here is an example project where this can be implemented
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267705.0
Maybe someone can prove that this is a fraudulent pyramid.
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September 09, 2020, 04:51:35 AM
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There is nothing like that, a coin could be a stable coin which the price is always the same or if it goes high means it can go down too , up and down come to gather and unsepratable , or it can be like AMPL with rebase and negative rebase, still there is volatility in it .

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September 09, 2020, 08:07:17 AM
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There is nothing like that, a coin could be a stable coin which the price is always the same or if it goes high means it can go down too , up and down come to gather and unsepratable , or it can be like AMPL with rebase and negative rebase, still there is volatility in it .
Quite right, only the profitability of the acquisition gives rise in value. The absence of negative volatility does not mean that the coin always grows in price, it may not grow if it is not bought, but the trick of this coin is that it cannot become lower than the purchase price since it is minted by your real asset. For example, if you need to spend 100 bucks for the production of the first coin, and for the production of the next 110, it is unlikely that the price of the first will be cheaper than the second, and so on. The main thing is your real asset, and it is stored in this coin. This is what my project is about.
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September 09, 2020, 08:32:22 AM
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I mean a coin that has a steady growth in the quantity of ether, which I will keep as a safe deposit.
That's impossible, cryptocurrency or investment always have a risk. If you don't want to accept the risk because worried your investment will be in loss, don't try to invest then.

Gold has been exist for a long time, and still have a risk with it. While most of altcoins exist only 1-2 years, and you wanted to a coin give fixed amount profit. You'll only trapped on ponzi scheme project.

Yes, it will really look like a scam. No one can guarantee a stable income that is associated with cryptocurrencies. If we are talking about volatility, the only way to avoid it is if the price of the token is linked to the currency basket. Everything else is a scam.





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September 09, 2020, 09:19:32 AM
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 dont know whats the use of the 3rd choice on your poll  but anyways the first thing that came to my mind is a stable coin but you said its not a stable coin so what is it ?  volatility has two sides , one is it when the value increase and the other is when it decrease  . for the most of us its positive when the price rise and its negative when it falls down but there are also people that treat both sides as positive because they know how to use them  . not all times the increase is positive for them  .

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September 09, 2020, 09:30:06 AM
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Yes we need it but it is really hard to find and even so good to be true.
All if the crypto would always have a downfall the price of all crypto would always experience it.
If we have that kind of crypto then everyone would be rich since it wouldn't have a negative volatility and the price would only continue to grow so everyone only needs to hold it and take their profit.

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September 09, 2020, 09:34:35 AM
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I mean a coin that has a steady growth in the quantity of ether, which I will keep as a safe deposit.
That's impossible, cryptocurrency or investment always have a risk. If you don't want to accept the risk because worried your investment will be in loss, don't try to invest then.

Gold has been exist for a long time, and still have a risk with it. While most of altcoins exist only 1-2 years, and you wanted to a coin give fixed amount profit. You'll only trapped on ponzi scheme project.

Yes, it will really look like a scam. No one can guarantee a stable income that is associated with cryptocurrencies. If we are talking about volatility, the only way to avoid it is if the price of the token is linked to the currency basket. Everything else is a scam.
Anyone who can prove that it is so can say that this looks like a scam. Any pyramid has basic attributes.
1. You need to buy something.
2. Surely someone wins and someone loses.
3. In any case, you part with money.
If there is even one sign in this project?
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