Bitcoin Forum
November 03, 2024, 12:03:54 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 28.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: Licensed bookmakers. Your cases of abuse?  (Read 237 times)
thermozz (OP)
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 9
Merit: 0


View Profile
September 07, 2020, 04:40:37 PM
 #1

Can you give an idea of the abuse of LARGE betting companies with serious licenses (like unibet,pinnacle etc). For example, such as the ones that exist 10 and years ago and much more. Please give up cases of abuse of curacao and balboa companies from my mother's island licenses...

Here it's not colourful and in my own time I had big limits imposed on bet365 and I associate betsson with medium fair practices as also ggbet too.. (on the border but still)

What are your unpleasant situations?
thermozz (OP)
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 9
Merit: 0


View Profile
September 08, 2020, 10:41:26 AM
 #2

Oh, I understand. Here are only bounty posters and bots.
ralle14
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3360
Merit: 1919


Shuffle.com


View Profile
September 08, 2020, 07:01:41 PM
 #3

This isn't an abuse but I had a bittersweet experience with Nitrogensports cancelling bets only because the lines are posted a few minutes longer after the match started. That was a long time ago though and now that they've upgraded the site recently I hope the others won't have the same experience. I still like their promotions but i'm never going to bet their regularly after losing those potential winning bets.

██████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
██████████████████████
.SHUFFLE.COM..███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
█████████████████████
████████████████████
██████████████████████
████████████████████
██████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
██████████████████████
██████████████████████
██████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
.
...Next Generation Crypto Casino...
Minus7point5
Jr. Member
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 191
Merit: 1


View Profile
September 08, 2020, 07:09:13 PM
 #4

This isn't an abuse but I had a bittersweet experience with Nitrogensports cancelling bets only because the lines are posted a few minutes longer after the match started. That was a long time ago though and now that they've upgraded the site recently I hope the others won't have the same experience. I still like their promotions but i'm never going to bet their regularly after losing those potential winning bets.


Agreed here.   For a while nitrogen was charging a $20 withdrawal fee until I started a thread about it.
Equivalent to price gouging and the support sucks.   I
pungopete468
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1470
Merit: 504



View Profile
September 09, 2020, 07:02:22 AM
 #5

I just don't know if I experience before a casino or bookmaker that abuses its players but I know 1xbet have a license right and yet they have so many scam accusations and problems in their platform before.

.
..1xBit.com   Super Six..
▄█████████████▄
████████████▀▀▀
█████████████▄
█████████▌▀████
██████████  ▀██
██████████▌   ▀
████████████▄▄
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
▀██████████████
███████████████
█████████████▀
█████▀▀       
███▀ ▄███     ▄
██▄▄████▌    ▄█
████████       
████████▌     
█████████    ▐█
██████████   ▐█
███████▀▀   ▄██
███▀   ▄▄▄█████
███ ▄██████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████▀▀▀█
██████████     
███████████▄▄▄█
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
         ▄█████
        ▄██████
       ▄███████
      ▄████████
     ▄█████████
    ▄███████
   ▄███████████
  ▄████████████
 ▄█████████████
▄██████████████
  ▀▀███████████
      ▀▀███
████
          ▀▀
          ▄▄██▌
      ▄▄███████
     █████████▀

 ▄██▄▄▀▀██▀▀
▄██████     ▄▄▄
███████   ▄█▄ ▄
▀██████   █  ▀█
 ▀▀▀
    ▀▄▄█▀
▄▄█████▄    ▀▀▀
 ▀████████
   ▀█████▀ ████
      ▀▀▀ █████
          █████
       ▄  █▄▄ █ ▄
     ▀▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
      ▀ ▄▄█████▄█▄▄
    ▄ ▄███▀    ▀▀ ▀▀▄
  ▄██▄███▄ ▀▀▀▀▄  ▄▄
  ▄████████▄▄▄▄▄█▄▄▄██
 ████████████▀▀    █ ▐█
██████████████▄ ▄▄▀██▄██
 ▐██████████████    ▄███
  ████▀████████████▄███▀
  ▀█▀  ▐█████████████▀
       ▐████████████▀
       ▀█████▀▀▀ █▀
.
Premier League
LaLiga
Serie A
.
Bundesliga
Ligue 1
Primeira Liga
.
..TAKE PART..
swogerino
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3332
Merit: 1248


Bitcoin Casino Est. 2013


View Profile
September 09, 2020, 08:30:03 AM
 #6

Can you give an idea of the abuse of LARGE betting companies with serious licenses (like unibet,pinnacle etc). For example, such as the ones that exist 10 and years ago and much more. Please give up cases of abuse of curacao and balboa companies from my mother's island licenses...

Here it's not colourful and in my own time I had big limits imposed on bet365 and I associate betsson with medium fair practices as also ggbet too.. (on the border but still)

What are your unpleasant situations?

We here love crypto gambling and I more than everyone else compared to Fiat for a simple reason.Bet365 did limit my accounts old and new when I was winning back then.I thought it was only me but after reading different forums this was and is common practice from bet365 to limit winning accounts.In crypto and trusted casinos this will never happen.I don’t know about the other bookmakers as I haven’t used them.

███▄▀██▄▄
░░▄████▄▀████ ▄▄▄
░░████▄▄▄▄░░█▀▀
███ ██████▄▄▀█▌
░▄░░███▀████
░▐█░░███░██▄▄
░░▄▀░████▄▄▄▀█
░█░▄███▀████ ▐█
▀▄▄███▀▄██▄
░░▄██▌░░██▀
░▐█▀████ ▀██
░░█▌██████ ▀▀██▄
░░▀███
▄▄██▀▄███
▄▄▄████▀▄████▄░░
▀▀█░░▄▄▄▄████░░
▐█▀▄▄█████████
████▀███░░▄░
▄▄██░███░░█▌░
█▀▄▄▄████░▀▄░░
█▌████▀███▄░█░
▄██▄▀███▄▄▀
▀██░░▐██▄░░
██▀████▀█▌░
▄██▀▀██████▐█░░
███▀░░
Welsh
Staff
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3304
Merit: 4115


View Profile
September 11, 2020, 07:34:46 PM
 #7

I'm assuming you're refering to when betting websites have not paid out, and you're classing those sort of experiences by abuse? The thing is, many gambling websites have it written in their terms that they can reject a bet for whatever reason they see fit, and there's been instances of them banning overly successful betters. I've never experienced this personally, but that's because I rarely bet these days, but I've heard cases of people being banned. However, you never know if they are abusing the system themselves or placing what we call matched betting (which is illegal, but gambling websites aren't particularly encouraged by those that do it)
dothebeats
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3766
Merit: 1354


View Profile
September 11, 2020, 08:57:15 PM
 #8

Cancelled several bets on Nitrogen with the reason that I haven’t bet on time even though I have placed them hours before the line closed. Nitrogen isn’t one of those huge bookies but they are certainly significant in the cryptobetting industry. Up to this day, I still don’t know the exact reason why they cancelled bets using that excuse but I’m glad that some were removed since the outcome is a loss anyway. The insane $20 flat withdrawal fee on the same site a while back was also an issue that many users found outrageous. Good thing they removed that restriction else people would have moved their habits elsewhere even though Nitrogen has been around for a long time.

█████████████████████████████████
████████▀▀█▀▀█▀▀█▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀████████
████████▄▄█▄▄█▄▄██████████▀██████
█████░░█░░█░░█░░████████████▀████
██▀▀█▀▀█▀▀█▀▀█▀▀██████████████▀██
██▄▄█▄▄█▄▄█▄▄█▄▄█▄▄▄▄▄▄██████████
██░░█░░█░░███████████████████████
██▀▀█▀▀█▀▀███████████████████████
██▄▄█▄▄█▄▄███████████████████████
██░░█░░█░░███████████████████████
██▀▀█▀▀█▀▀██████████▄▄▄██████████
██▄▄█▄▄█▄▄███████████████████████
██░░█░░█░░███████████████████████
██████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██████
████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
 Crypto Marketing Agency
By AB de Royse

████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
██████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██████
██████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██████
██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
WIN $50 FREE RAFFLE
Community Giveaway

██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
██████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██████
████████████████████████
██
██████████████████████
██████████████████▀▀████
██████████████▀▀░░░░████
██████████▀▀░░░▄▀░░▐████
██████▀▀░░░░▄█▀░░░░█████
████▄▄░░░▄██▀░░░░░▐█████
████████░█▀░░░░░░░██████
████████▌▐░░▄░░░░▐██████
█████████░▄███▄░░███████
████████████████████████
████████████████████████
████████████████████████
livingfree
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2968
Merit: 580


Hire Bitcointalk Camp. Manager @ r7promotions.com


View Profile
September 11, 2020, 10:24:48 PM
 #9

This isn't an abuse but I had a bittersweet experience with Nitrogensports cancelling bets only because the lines are posted a few minutes longer after the match started. That was a long time ago though and now that they've upgraded the site recently I hope the others won't have the same experience. I still like their promotions but i'm never going to bet their regularly after losing those potential winning bets.
I have the same experience.

It was disappointing to see that you have bet and it went through but after the game you've bet on, you are late to know that they have cancelled the bet you're happy with and expecting that you have made well on it.

No other bad experience I have than that.

█████████████████████████████████
████████▀▀█▀▀█▀▀█▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀████████
████████▄▄█▄▄█▄▄██████████▀██████
█████░░█░░█░░█░░████████████▀████
██▀▀█▀▀█▀▀█▀▀█▀▀██████████████▀██
██▄▄█▄▄█▄▄█▄▄█▄▄█▄▄▄▄▄▄██████████
██░░█░░█░░███████████████████████
██▀▀█▀▀█▀▀███████████████████████
██▄▄█▄▄█▄▄███████████████████████
██░░█░░█░░███████████████████████
██▀▀█▀▀█▀▀██████████▄▄▄██████████
██▄▄█▄▄█▄▄███████████████████████
██░░█░░█░░███████████████████████
██████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██████
████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
 Crypto Marketing Agency
By AB de Royse

████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
██████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██████
██████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██████
██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
WIN $50 FREE RAFFLE
Community Giveaway

██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
██████
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██████
████████████████████████
██
██████████████████████
██████████████████▀▀████
██████████████▀▀░░░░████
██████████▀▀░░░▄▀░░▐████
██████▀▀░░░░▄█▀░░░░█████
████▄▄░░░▄██▀░░░░░▐█████
████████░█▀░░░░░░░██████
████████▌▐░░▄░░░░▐██████
█████████░▄███▄░░███████
████████████████████████
████████████████████████
████████████████████████
dimonstration
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2730
Merit: 698

Dimon69


View Profile
September 11, 2020, 11:02:29 PM
 #10

This is not my experience but I see it as abuse. Some establish casino is not paying a big win without undergoing KYC. I don't know if this part is in ToS but those players that experience this is already playing on that same site many times, they already lose and win multiple times without requiring KYC. But when they hit jackpot, they automatically require KYC for verification. This is the common abuse which I see on establish casino which I don't want to name.

Some scenario are user was accused by multiple account which might be conflict because many gamblers are using vpn which can give a common IP if they are using same VPN. This is very dangerous because they can use this everytime a player win big amount of money.
Fundamentals Of
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2380
Merit: 366


View Profile
September 12, 2020, 06:34:15 AM
 #11

I am not a victim of a bookmaker's abuse. I never experienced not getting paid for a bet wagered. I also did not experience being blocked or having my bet cancelled. I was also never asked to undergo a KYC for no reason at all. In other words, I have gotten no negative experience about gambling, aside from losses of course.

I am always choosing the popular betting sites. And I guess if those certain sites are abusive or even randomly blocking and cancelling bets they wouldn't have reached their current popularity level.
thermozz (OP)
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 9
Merit: 0


View Profile
September 23, 2020, 11:39:25 AM
 #12

This is not my experience but I see it as abuse. Some establish casino is not paying a big win without undergoing KYC. I don't know if this part is in ToS but those players that experience this is already playing on that same site many times, they already lose and win multiple times without requiring KYC. But when they hit jackpot, they automatically require KYC for verification. This is the common abuse which I see on establish casino which I don't want to name.

Some scenario are user was accused by multiple account which might be conflict because many gamblers are using vpn which can give a common IP if they are using same VPN. This is very dangerous because they can use this everytime a player win big amount of money.
but tell me why play in suspicious casinos? Even at a licensed one with a long tradition you do not know what is underneath, let alone a new one? What is the point ?
Sadlife
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1400
Merit: 269



View Profile
September 23, 2020, 12:04:12 PM
 #13

So far my experience with big gambling site's is good, i have no issue about them. Although the difficulty in winning is much higher when you do arbitrage gambling in popular gambling casino's.
I guess my only bad experience in a gambling site was in a sports bookie, the name was 1xbit. Luckily, some users warned and posted some red flags about it, that's how i avoided getting scammed.

         ▄▄▄▀█▀▀▀█▀▄▄▄
       ▀▀   █     █
    ▀      █       █
  █      ▄█▄       ▐▌
 █▀▀▀▀▀▀█   █▀▀▀▀▀▀▀█
█        ▀█▀        █
█         █         █
█         █        ▄█▄
 █▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄█▄▄▄▄▄▄▄█   █
  █       ▐▌       ▀█▀
  █▀▀▀▄    █       █
  ▀▄▄▄█▄▄   █     █
         ▀▀▀▄█▄▄▄█▄▀▀▀
.
CRYPTO CASINO
FOR WEB 3.0
.
▄▄▄█▀▀▀
▄▄████▀████
▄████████████
█▀▀    ▀█▄▄▄▄▄
█        ▄█████
█        ▄██████
██▄     ▄███████
████▄▄█▀▀▀██████
████       ▀▀██
███          █
▀█          █
▀▀▄▄ ▄▄▄█▀▀
▀▀▀▄▄▄▄
  ▄ ▄█ ▄
▄▄        ▄████▀       ▄▄
▐█
███▄▄█████████████▄▄████▌
██
██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀████▀▀▀▀▀▀████
▐█▀    ▄▄▄▄ ▀▀        ▀█▌
     █▄████   ▄▀█▄     ▌

     ██████   ▀██▀     █
████▄    ▀▀▀▀           ▄████
█████████████████████████████
████████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
▀███████████████████████▀
██████▌█▌█▌██████▐█▐█▐███████
.
OWL GAMES
|.
Metamask
WalletConnect
Phantom
▄▄▄███ ███▄▄▄
▄▄████▀▀▀▀ ▀▀▀▀████▄▄
▄  ▀▀▀▄▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄▄▀▀▀  ▄
██▀ ▄▀▀             ▀▀▄ ▀██
██▀ █ ▄     ▄█▄▀      ▄ █ ▀██
██▀ █  ███▄▄███████▄▄███  █ ▀██
█  ▐█▀    ▀█▀    ▀█▌  █
██▄ █ ▐█▌  ▄██   ▄██  ▐█▌ █ ▄██
██▄ ████▄    ▄▄▄    ▄████ ▄██
██▄ ▀████████████████▀ ▄██
▀  ▄▄▄▀▀█████████▀▀▄▄▄  ▀
▀▀████▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄████▀▀
▀▀▀███ ███▀▀▀
.
DICE
SLOTS
BACCARAT
BLACKJACK
.
GAME SHOWS
POKER
ROULETTE
CASUAL GAMES
▄███████████████████▄
██▄▀▄█████████████████████▄▄
███▀█████████████████████████
████████████████████████████▌
█████████▄█▄████████████████
███████▄█████▄█████████████▌
███████▀█████▀█████████████
█████████▄█▄██████████████▌
██████████████████████████
█████████████████▄███████▌
████████████████▀▄▀██████
▀███████████████████▄███▌
              ▀▀▀▀█████▀
rodskee
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 2548
Merit: 205


yahoo62278


View Profile
September 23, 2020, 12:13:04 PM
 #14

So far my experience with big gambling site's is good, i have no issue about them. Although the difficulty in winning is much higher when you do arbitrage gambling in popular gambling casino's.
I guess my only bad experience in a gambling site was in a sports bookie, the name was 1xbit. Luckily, some users warned and posted some red flags about it, that's how i avoided getting scammed.
So you are a Victim of 1xbit?maybe this is long time ago because this site has been in all area of Scam accusation and reputation,so i guess none of us
will become a victim again.



I am not a typical gambler so less exposure in gambling ,But also i have no bad experiences in all my gambling activities online.

What i have is in Real life gambling when in Cockfight my opponent did not Pay me instead run away with His money lol.

Mauser
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1960
Merit: 534


View Profile
September 23, 2020, 02:19:10 PM
 #15


What are your unpleasant situations?


Most of my encounters with bookmakers where alright, nothing bad really happened.  I tend to go to physical betting casinos when I was younger and the sales clerk where usually very friendly. I didn't notice any real abuses in those places. Bad things later happened when I  started using online casinos and ended losing some money on a scam site.
yayayo
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1806
Merit: 1024



View Profile
September 23, 2020, 02:43:57 PM
 #16

What I read so far, is that even casino's with a big name can you scam customers. It seems to be not relevant anymore if somebody has a license, more important is they payout your winnings that you earned.
And all those TAC are so annoying, and I can imagine we are not going to read all the TAC when you register.

ya.ya.yo!

.
..1xBit.com   Super Six..
▄█████████████▄
████████████▀▀▀
█████████████▄
█████████▌▀████
██████████  ▀██
██████████▌   ▀
████████████▄▄
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
▀██████████████
███████████████
█████████████▀
█████▀▀       
███▀ ▄███     ▄
██▄▄████▌    ▄█
████████       
████████▌     
█████████    ▐█
██████████   ▐█
███████▀▀   ▄██
███▀   ▄▄▄█████
███ ▄██████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████▀▀▀█
██████████     
███████████▄▄▄█
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
███████████████
         ▄█████
        ▄██████
       ▄███████
      ▄████████
     ▄█████████
    ▄███████
   ▄███████████
  ▄████████████
 ▄█████████████
▄██████████████
  ▀▀███████████
      ▀▀███
████
          ▀▀
          ▄▄██▌
      ▄▄███████
     █████████▀

 ▄██▄▄▀▀██▀▀
▄██████     ▄▄▄
███████   ▄█▄ ▄
▀██████   █  ▀█
 ▀▀▀
    ▀▄▄█▀
▄▄█████▄    ▀▀▀
 ▀████████
   ▀█████▀ ████
      ▀▀▀ █████
          █████
       ▄  █▄▄ █ ▄
     ▀▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
      ▀ ▄▄█████▄█▄▄
    ▄ ▄███▀    ▀▀ ▀▀▄
  ▄██▄███▄ ▀▀▀▀▄  ▄▄
  ▄████████▄▄▄▄▄█▄▄▄██
 ████████████▀▀    █ ▐█
██████████████▄ ▄▄▀██▄██
 ▐██████████████    ▄███
  ████▀████████████▄███▀
  ▀█▀  ▐█████████████▀
       ▐████████████▀
       ▀█████▀▀▀ █▀
.
Premier League
LaLiga
Serie A
.
Bundesliga
Ligue 1
Primeira Liga
.
..TAKE PART..
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!