More Support for Covid as Engineered Financial Reset

[BobK71]

As I wrote here, my working theory is that China and the West were both responsible for deliberately releasing the coronavirus in order to reset the global financial and economic systems, and blame the pain on the virus.

We now have additional evidence to support this theory.

As we know, in recent days, US Democrats have been accusing President Trump of knowing the seriousness of the virus in January and February but minimizing the problem in public.  But if we look at the record, Dr Fauci and Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi were doing pretty much the same thing.

Doesn't this begin to look like a 'bipartisan' policy to get the US into the Covid crisis?

(P.S. I am not defending Trump at all -- I'm only saying people like Fauci, for sure, knew at least as much as Trump about how serious it was, and that the entire Western media and political class effectively ensured that early containment would be impossible.  Fauci and others may have been better at covering for themselves by saying 'this may get worse,' but no one was calling for actions to contain the virus early enough to avoid the large number of infections and deaths we have seen.)

[pokeronlinestatus]

I’ve seen a few people talk about this global financial reset, but I don’t really get what they are trying to say about it. So what does that mean, does it mean that the world is tired of using the USD as a hegemony? If that’s what it means, why would the US government be in support of an action that is going to bring a fall to their currency and replace it with another currency?

Unless maybe I don’t fully understand this, and moreover, I have tried doing a few search on Google and the articles I saw are not really explaining things the way I am going to understand it. And moreover the reason you have stated here is not a proof, they don’t have any proof as to whether Trump knew how serious the virus is, they are just assuming that he does.

[Coyster]

Firstly, I don't think China and most countries of the western world can come to any agreement on anything, even impossible when we're talking about spreading a virus deliberately. I know Trump can pretty much be silly most of the time, but how many countries took the proactive action of closing their borders and invariably their economy on time to nip the virus in the bud, the number is zero.

Having established that, it has to be a last resort to close your borders, stop your work force and ask everyone to stay at home, and thats why there was a considerable delay, or why it looks like most presidents were reluctant to act, to stop the spread of the virus. That being said, "knowing how serious the virus is" and it still spreading, isn't enough proof to call this a deliberate act of resetting the economy system, you forget how fast covid-19 passes from one person to another, before the government got a hold of it's seriousness, thousands of people were already infected. Come to think of it, this reset isn't favoring the United States or the Western world, so what did they stand to gain.

[inoes]

What I am amazed at is that President Trump has let his people catch the virus up to> 6 million people. this indicates that he does not think too much about how dangerous this virus is, instead underestimating it. There is likely a plan for the Trump. because the Trump has increasingly led to opinion that this pandemic was the fault of China, so that its political opponents were also affected

[20kevin20]

Putting everything related to any kind of conspiracies on the side, there is a lot of information we're missing on and a lot of stuff that feels weird/wrong. I would have not minded pandemic-related rules as long as they were logical, but there's so many things that don't add up.

Now that so many months have passed and I yet have to hear from any of my friends about some person they knew who died from COVID, the feeling that this has been at least partially orchestrated really does get more and more pronounced.

The "financial reset" is coming whether we like it or not, but it may not be the same way some people see it. For example, I don't really see a global currency to be adopted because of different countries/continents not agreeing to working with them. China may not agree to the specs United States' digital currency has. A lot of people also believe in the idea that a financial reset will mean erasing all the world's debt off. This sounds just too good to be true - so it most likely is.

The "new normal", in my opinion, also means going cashless. This started from very basic stuff like being told everywhere that card payments are preferred. Seeing "we recommend you to pay card in favor of cash" everywhere gets under your consciousness at one point. Is cashless better? For us, obviously not. However, how many people do you think will really care? What they really have to get fixed up in order to push for digital fiat is the fact that a lot of the old people have no idea how tech works. But I guess there's a plan for that as well.

If that’s what it means, why would the US government be in support of an action that is going to bring a fall to their currency and replace it with another currency?

Honestly, if I was to compare USD with a digital currency as if I was a politician, digital obviously wins without a doubt. Main reason is control and lack of privacy. That's pretty much everything you need in order to gain a significant amount of power over your citizens.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Doesn't this begin to look like a 'bipartisan' policy to get the US into the Covid crisis?

Not really.  Trump is a fucking idiot to begin with (although he's a brilliant businessman) and at the beginning of the coronavirus outbreak he just gave reassuring words to the public and sort of poo-poo'ed the whole situation.  And remember, in the early days the information that was coming out was that the average person would only get cold-like symptoms if they got infected and it was only later that the public started reacting to COVID-19 as if it were ebola.

I'm only saying people like Fauci, for sure, knew at least as much as Trump about how serious it was

Not necessarily.  The COVID-19 strain is a novel one, which means that it's new.  If people start getting infected with a brand new virus (or a new strain of an old virus in this case), how is anyone supposed to have complete information about all the variables that a politician would need to know in order to make policies and use resources to combat the outbreak?  Acquisition of that information takes time.

Fauci knows more about coronavirus, viruses in general, and anything to do with human health than Trump does--so yeah, he probably knew more than Trump in the beginning but he still had to learn how this novel virus operated.

I'm generally not a conspiracy theorist, and I don't think COVID-19 was an engineered attack on anybody's part.  I reserve the right to change my mind if new information comes out, though.

[BobK71]

Here's a bit more information...  in Jan. and Feb. the mainstream media was as guilty as Trump in spreading the 'this is no problem' story.  A sampling of story titles:

- USA Today, Feb. 1: 'Coronavirus is scary, but the flu is deadlier, more widespread' by Megan Henry and Grace Hauck.

- MarketWatch, Jan. 30 opinion: 'For now, the flu is a bigger risk than coronavirus'

- Los Angeles Times, Jan. 31: 'For Americans, flu remains a bigger threat than coronavirus' by Soumya Karlamangla.

So again I ask, was it not the top Western establishment that wanted the virus to be an issue?

[BobK71]

I’ve seen a few people talk about this global financial reset, but I don’t really get what they are trying to say about it. So what does that mean, does it mean that the world is tired of using the USD as a hegemony? If that’s what it means, why would the US government be in support of an action that is going to bring a fall to their currency and replace it with another currency?

Unless maybe I don’t fully understand this, and moreover, I have tried doing a few search on Google and the articles I saw are not really explaining things the way I am going to understand it. And moreover the reason you have stated here is not a proof, they don’t have any proof as to whether Trump knew how serious the virus is, they are just assuming that he does.

I'm really glad you asked these questions, as you're probably not alone.

By global financial reset, in very general terms, I meant that the values of financial assets (money, debt, equity, real estate, etc.) and the values of real wealth (goods and services) have to come back together.  Since the last big reset (Great Depression and World War II,) the rich and powerful have issued far too many financial assets (because they are the biggest beneficiaries of this issuance.)  At current prices, there is far too much financial asset wealth, compared to real wealth.  But the financial assets are simply a claim on real wealth, nothing more.  So this is like a theater having issued many more tickets than there are seats for a show.

To keep their system stable, the elites have found it necessary to take a lot of ad hoc action (such as bailing out banks) that ended up creating financial instability, inequality, etc.  There's only so much you can do with tricks, and ultimately, the two values have to come back together to enable long-term stability.

Since any reset must be one or more of: financial asset values coming down (default/deflation,) goods and services prices going up (inflation), plus possibly other unpleasant policies and outcomes, it would be nice to have something to blame for the pain and turmoil of the reset.  As for the dollar, many things are possible, but my guess is that it will still be the best fiat currency, after a big devaluation against gold, silver, Bitcoin, etc.

It's not that the elites want such a reset, it's that they must have it.  An uncontrolled crash of financial assets would not only be likely even more painful, but would also point the blame directly at the design of the world system.  We can't have that, can we?

BTW, the theme of next year's World Economic Forum at Davos has been decided for a while now: 'The Great Reset.'  So, it's official.

[verita1]

I think the alerts from major players like the World Health Organization, China and the USA did not work properly and in a timely manner.

China seems to be struggling alone with its problem without warning of an unknown and dangerous virus in time.
I did not see the red alert from China to warn other countries.

USA the most affected country, Trump minimized the danger of the virus. Because we have already realized that Covid19 is devastating. We still haven't gotten out of it and we're already seeing a second wave being created.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-51839944

Coronavirus confirmed as pandemic by World Health Organization

March 11, 2020

[BobK71]

Firstly, I don't think China and most countries of the western world can come to any agreement on anything, even impossible when we're talking about spreading a virus deliberately.

There's no need for any agreement.  A reset greatly benefits all countries' elites, since all countries are financially unstable in a fundamental sense.  (See my last reply.)  All that's needed is some degree of co-ordination, with each step benefiting the party that takes it.

What we've seen was that, at first, the West covered for China by arguing strenuously that the virus was natural.  As more evidence came out that it is not, and with possibly new conflicts brewing, which put pressure on any co-operation, the tune was changed.  A good portion of the Western elites (Trump and the Republicans, etc.) started saying the virus was made in a Chinese lab (but still maintaining, at least for now, that the release was probably accidental.)  For its part, the Chinese began circulating theories that Americans brought the virus to China.  This is all to be expected.

I know Trump can pretty much be silly most of the time, but how many countries took the proactive action of closing their borders and invariably their economy on time to nip the virus in the bud, the number is zero.

If you're trying to say early containment is simply impossible, the excellent results in Eastern European countries, South Korea, Hong Kong, Singapore, etc. seem to contradict that.  Certainly their containment is not 100%, but if most Western countries and China had been able to achieve even a fraction of what they have, there would be a lot fewer deaths and sick.

On the other hand, the fact that no major Western country has been able to contain the disease early seems to indicate deliberate failure, since these are not fundamentally weaker countries, compared to the above.

Having established that, it has to be a last resort to close your borders, stop your work force and ask everyone to stay at home, and thats why there was a considerable delay, or why it looks like most presidents were reluctant to act, to stop the spread of the virus. That being said, "knowing how serious the virus is" and it still spreading, isn't enough proof to call this a deliberate act of resetting the economy system,

Correct.  But short of being a fly on the wall in some important conversion (which itself might be spoken in code only,) we'll have to deal with circumstantial evidence.  I'm saying that such evidence is overwhelming, if you look at how everyone who was important or had a big audience basically allowed Trump and China to say this is no big deal, and basically allowed the virus to get into their countries.  (This when some blogger like Chris Martensen had enough information to determine this was serious and everyone needed to protect themselves.)

you forget how fast covid-19 passes from one person to another, before the government got a hold of it's seriousness, thousands of people were already infected. Come to think of it, this reset isn't favoring the United States or the Western world, so what did they stand to gain.

Again, a fundamental reset like this will fundamentally favor elites of all countries.

[abhiseshakana]

There's no need for any agreement.  A reset greatly benefits all countries' elites, since all countries are financially unstable in a fundamental sense.  (See my last reply.)  All that's needed is some degree of co-ordination, with each step benefiting the party that takes it.

I assume that the COVID-19 pandemic will generate a momentum "you are on your own". In the name of the national threat and to protect the interests of the state, there are many emergency decisions and actions that can be taken by the state, to save the condition of its people. So each country can reset within the scope of their authority.

To reset the global economy. It is not America or China that can do it but the groups that control the world, more precisely the bankers who have controlled the world's wealth long before the dollar became the single currency. Only those who own and create the system can reset the system. Those in the system can only carry out a revolution even though the success rate is very small. A system reset is a repetition of a certain period caused by malfunctions of parts of the system, in different ways. As long as there are conventional banks, the bank interest system, as well as the stock and commodity markets, the system reset will always occur, due to over production and speculative actions.

[BobK71]

Now that so many months have passed and I yet have to hear from any of my friends about some person they knew who died from COVID, the feeling that this has been at least partially orchestrated really does get more and more pronounced.

Thanks for mentioning this.  Same here.

The "financial reset" is coming whether we like it or not, but it may not be the same way some people see it. For example, I don't really see a global currency to be adopted because of different countries/continents not agreeing to working with them. China may not agree to the specs United States' digital currency has.

No, I don't see a global currency either, and for the same reason, plus, a global, centrally controlled money would be a clumsy way for the top globalists to dominate the world by controlling its money.  (E.g. the IMF's fiat-based Special Drawing Rights never amounted to anything close to global money.)  The 400-year history of the modern imperial system has always seen the dominant centralized money being nationally based, where patriotism in that country can be utilized to justify aggressive actions to help prop up that money.

However, it's possible that the basic global reserves will be a set of decentralized monies, in effect if not in name.  I say 'in effect' because the management of exchange rates between centralized and decentralized monies may be hidden, but effectively be the same thing as a flexible version of the gold standard, or whatever-standard.  For example, devaluation of centralized money can be done via a fast and furious 'market rally' of the decentralized monies that looks like a bubble and goes past the target future rate, so that, over those future years, the decentralized monies will be made to lose ground gradually, as long as the system stays stable.  Gold has been 'managed' this way since 1971, and this has been not essentially different from the old gold standard, even though the narrative fed to the public is completely different.

A lot of people also believe in the idea that a financial reset will mean erasing all the world's debt off. This sounds just too good to be true - so it most likely is.

Agreed, but wiping out or reducing the heavy debt levels today will have to be a major feature of the reset, no matter what.  You could even say this is the point of the exercise.  There are many ways of doing it, and it needs not be a 100% cleanup.  If the new supports for the system will tolerate the remaining debt well (say, the remaining value after a massive inflation,) then that debt might stay.

The "new normal", in my opinion, also means going cashless.

Again, agreed.  Cashlessness will be such a powerful tool for future financial repression (negative interest rates making standard monetary policy possible around the zero-rate point,) that it's hard to see it missing from the Great Reset.

I fantasize about a scenario where the current US dollar is massively printed, while the Fed issues a new, blockchain based electronic dollar.  The exchange rate between the old and new dollars will 'float in the marketplace.'  Over time, the old dollar is gradually killed by massive devaluation, but at a controlled speed.  Since most of today's debt is denominated in the old dollar, this will in effect wipe out most debt as well.  It's the new dollar whose exchange rates against decentralized monies will be 'managed.'  I hope I've not missed anything important here, but don't know.

If that’s what it means, why would the US government be in support of an action that is going to bring a fall to their currency and replace it with another currency?

Honestly, if I was to compare USD with a digital currency as if I was a politician, digital obviously wins without a doubt. Main reason is control and lack of privacy. That's pretty much everything you need in order to gain a significant amount of power over your citizens.

[BobK71]

Doesn't this begin to look like a 'bipartisan' policy to get the US into the Covid crisis?

Not really.  Trump is a fucking idiot to begin with (although he's a brilliant businessman) and at the beginning of the coronavirus outbreak he just gave reassuring words to the public and sort of poo-poo'ed the whole situation.  And remember, in the early days the information that was coming out was that the average person would only get cold-like symptoms if they got infected and it was only later that the public started reacting to COVID-19 as if it were ebola.

But didn't the mainstream media, Fauci, Pelosi, etc. basically go with Trump's program (ie minimal response?)  As I said, they might have been better at covering for themselves, by saying 'this may get worse,' but basically no important person or group made enough of a stink.  And we're not even talking about attempting to change policy. We're only talking about trying to appeal to everyday Americans to avoid indoor gathering or to wear masks.  (And Fauci and others even told people not to wear masks.)

I'm only saying people like Fauci, for sure, knew at least as much as Trump about how serious it was

Not necessarily.  The COVID-19 strain is a novel one, which means that it's new.  If people start getting infected with a brand new virus (or a new strain of an old virus in this case), how is anyone supposed to have complete information about all the variables that a politician would need to know in order to make policies and use resources to combat the outbreak?  Acquisition of that information takes time.

Fauci knows more about coronavirus, viruses in general, and anything to do with human health than Trump does--so yeah, he probably knew more than Trump in the beginning but he still had to learn how this novel virus operated.

If some blogger out there like Chris Martensen knew how serious this was (as he funnily said, armed with a $100/month budget for internet access,)  you don't think the intelligence services and the connections of the media and politicians knew?  Even the average person could see people dying on the streets of Wuhan in the news.  Somehow, no one in a position of power or influence in major Western countries thought to try to contain the virus early, and to avoid economically costly lock-downs.

I'm generally not a conspiracy theorist, and I don't think COVID-19 was an engineered attack on anybody's part.  I reserve the right to change my mind if new information comes out, though.

IMO conspiracy theories exist because there are conspiracies.

[Yatsan]

The whole world is already aware that there is a certain deadly virus that have started in Wuhan, China which makes it the ground zero of the spread of virus. It is just that the threat have been disregarded by different countries around the world and did not have that coordination with the departments concerning health related issues that is why the virus have spread. Even here in our country, our government are already aware that there is such existing new strain of virus but it was neglected and the spread have been underestimated stating that such threat could be manageable but it is not. The strict protocols have not been early implemented on foreign affairs relations to avoid the spread of virus that can be potentially be brought by a carrier coming from a place where there is an infection that is already recorded.

I think this was not engineered to make a financial reset. It just so happen that the world government did not act early before the spread of virus got worst. Anyway, there is nothing to blame with since we are already at this situation. Such issues are still theories and allegations against China if they have really made up such virus.

[Xembin]

I think, not all countries will support this financial reset, country like China would not like to participate in this financial Reset.
According to some researcher, came to discovered that some countries are in competition, who is the most powerful country in the world. Corona virus has kill some many people in the world, which some country has found solution gradually while  some their cases is still increasing day by day with the virus.
Trump is looking for a way to find solution to the covid-19 cases that is increasing everyday and, so that, it  will not affect his re-election that is coming up.

[mindrust]

That's possible too. Maybe the US and China both are responsible.

If you examine the other big financial crises you'll see they always happened when the economy was at its peak.

I very well remember at the beginning of this year the unemployed numbers for the US was record low. Everything was super fine.

Check this out:


https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-unemployment-rate.htm

This picture right above probably has all the information you need to know about the economy. It is the best TA that's been created.

2020 needed a pin to blow this bigbubble and somehow covid19 was it.

This graph above will be even more violent next time... if there is a next time.

[BobK71]

We now have direct evidence that the virus was engineered in a lab, in the form of a published paper by Dr Li-Meng Yan, open to peer review from around the world.

The interesting question is: why did establishment Western scientists argue so hard that the virus was natural?  And even more interesting: why did the entire Western mainstream media allow only that side of the argument to air?  Who have that kind of power?

On almost any issue, the West doesn't defend China.  Why do it now?  And on such an important issue?  Maybe revealing China as the engineer of the virus gets one step closer to the truth, and the truth is that the West and China collaborated on the virus?  (E.g. we know for sure Fauci himself has been involved in 'gain of function' research supported jointly by US and Chinese government labs, ie looking into how we can make viruses more transmittable, etc.)

Who knows, if China is made to look guilty, it will reveal evidence that the West was involved?

Anyway, as I said, the paper is open to peer review.  Oh, wait, sorry, but Twitter just suspended Dr Yan's account from where she published the link to the paper.  Oops.

Surely, the entire Western establishment can't be afraid of the writings of a 'rogue Chinese scientist?'

[BobK71]

I very well remember at the beginning of this year the unemployed numbers for the US was record low. Everything was super fine.

I remember too the story the media was pushing.  Come to think of it, if 'everything' was not super fine, then we couldn't blame 'everything' on the virus.

Check out the Epsilon Theory site.  Ben Hunt et al are professional investors who are trying to make a science, not of how to learn the truth by listing to the media (good luck on that!) but of how to learn certain truths by observing what stories the media is trying to push, and thereby getting an advantage.

[dothebeats]

The theory that this was engineered in a lab has been going around since late January and early February, with some of the articles already taken down due to misinformation. Even the Lancet has suggested against the idea, which is kinda surprising since they sometimes are the ones who digs deeper on the hole first before anyone else does. Several US Senators also don't want to 'point fingers' hastily on China since they think that that wouldn't be too nice.

Now with the emergence of a  'rogue scientist' from China, Dr. Li-Meng Yen, we may now have a closer look on how natural the virus really is. News flash: early findings show that it isn't, and the prevous SARS-CoV template may have been used to alter it and enhance the vector of infection of the virus even further by editing some of the proteins responsible for binding on our ACE2 receptors. Resulting product is an even infectious and stealthier virus than its predecessors.

If the collaboration is really true, then all of these aggression from China and the US fending off the bullies is just stage play to make it seem like they don't really like each other. A perfect cover-up, I should say, since no one is suspecting up until the dots are connected very recently.

[abhiseshakana]

We now have direct evidence that the virus was engineered in a lab, in the form of a published paper by Dr Li-Meng Yan, open to peer review from around the world.

The interesting question is: why did establishment Western scientists argue so hard that the virus was natural?  And even more interesting: why did the entire Western mainstream media allow only that side of the argument to air?  Who have that kind of power?

On almost any issue, the West doesn't defend China.  Why do it now?  And on such an important issue?  Maybe revealing China as the engineer of the virus gets one step closer to the truth, and the truth is that the West and China collaborated on the virus?  (E.g. we know for sure Fauci himself has been involved in 'gain of function' research supported jointly by US and Chinese government labs, ie looking into how we can make viruses more transmittable, etc.)

Who knows, if China is made to look guilty, it will reveal evidence that the West was involved?

Anyway, as I said, the paper is open to peer review.  Oh, wait, sorry, but Twitter just suspended Dr Yan's account from where she published the link to the paper.  Oops.

Surely, the entire Western establishment can't be afraid of the writings of a 'rogue Chinese scientist?'

The Indonesian government once found that the bird flu virus was developed by the United States in the NAMRU laboratory. In addition, there is an observer who states that Fauci is the person behind the biological warfare scenario. He was there and played in 6 presidents of America. It was found that the covid 19 virus has an enrichment element that affects the immunity of the victim like the elements in the aids virus. Fauci was familiar with the SARS, AIDS, and Covid 19 outbreaks.

China is not the most beneficiary from this virus, it's just that China is better prepared to face Covid because of the initial information is obtained from its intelligence and experience from the bird flu pandemic in 2003. Can we analyze who benefited the most from the pandemic? namely the global pharmaceutical elite and its donors, namely the globalists.