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September 11, 2020, 06:55:43 PM
Last edit: September 13, 2020, 03:16:40 PM by YOSHIE
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This topic is addressed to: Campaign Manager: DEGO. Defi Finance with Sustainability-100,000 DEGO.

Campaign manager: Fatemablabla

The rules that are treated in the campaign:

4. Using multiple accounts, cheating and spamming are not allowed. You will be disqualified from the bounty program immediately and all of your accounts will be banned permanently.

The users that I display below are specifically Alt accounts that commit (2) violations.
1. Ban Evasion.
2. Cheating in the campaign; DEGO.Finance Defi with Sustainability-100,000 DEGO.

account Alt involved in the violation.
The first case: (1).


1. chavhanabhay00
2. Puravipawar
3. Pankaj82 (Archived)
4. pankajdp

Proof:

Username in Bitcointalk: chavhanabhay00
ERC20 wallet address: 0xF7F9Bdb24ffc9f80D77b1EEe5dbD06d1a40eCc0f

{ archive }

BTT Username: Puravipawar
Telegram Username: @pawar8208
ETH Address: 0xF7F9Bdb24ffc9f80D77b1EEe5dbD06d1a40eCc0f

{ archive }

Related Addresses:
Code:
ETH Address: 0xF7F9Bdb24ffc9f80D77b1EEe5dbD06d1a40eCc0f
ETH Wallet Address: 0xD1B189a196eCcd6FFC92D7F1255F6236AE90fFa2

Evidence: they committed violations in the campaign.

@chavhanabhay00 & @Puravipawar: page:(21).
Topic: [Bounty]DEGO.Finance Defi with Sustainability-100,000 DEGO Token[Total 8 weeks]

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Another proof of ETH address is also used by other Alt accounts.

Forum Username: Puravipawar
Telegram Username: @iampankaj_pawar
ETH Wallet Address: 0xD1B189a196eCcd6FFC92D7F1255F6236AE90fFa2

{ archive }

Telegram : @pankaj820870
Eth Address : 0xD1B189a196eCcd6FFC92D7F1255F6236AE90fFa2

Post by: pankajdp
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Telegram username: @Pankajjio
Twitter username: @pankajpawar23
ETH wallet address :0xD1B189a196eCcd6FFC92D7F1255F6236AE90fFa2

{ archive }




account Alt involved in the violation.
the second case: (2).


1. Mysally
2. Syunusa

Proof:

Forum Username: Mysally
Telegram Username: mysally
ETH Wallet Address: 0xA50aA5b2b2A31F483C42585588954bB3628Da93D

{ archive }

Telegram-- @plentylovee
Twitter--https://twitter.com/mysally7
Wallet address--0xA50aA5b2b2A31F483C42585588954bB3628Da93D

{ archive }

Evidence of campaign fraud:

@Mysally: page:(22).
Topic: [Bounty]DEGO.Finance Defi with Sustainability-100,000 DEGO Token[Total 8 weeks]

@Syunusa: page:(26).
Topic: [Bounty]DEGO.Finance Defi with Sustainability-100,000 DEGO Token[Total 8 weeks]

spreadsheets@Mysally:(318) & @Syunusa:(368).

Related Addresses:
Code:
ETH Wallet Address: 0xA50aA5b2b2A31F483C42585588954bB3628Da93D

For a while:
(08): Cheating account.
(04): blocked.
(01): not active.

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September 11, 2020, 07:02:52 PM
Last edit: September 12, 2020, 04:41:45 AM by YOSHIE
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account Alt involved in the violation.
the third case: (3).


1. Wolfers
2. earnincrypto1

#PROOF OF REGISTRATION
Forum Username: Wolfers
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2849831
Telegram Username: @KivinLee
ETH Wallet Address: 0x450894fe208a8870f9557b2D30819034C32C1A8B

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#PROOF OF REGISTRATION
Forum Username: earnincrypto1
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1888075
Telegram Username: @KivinLee
ETH Wallet Address: 0x450894fe208a8870f9557b2D30819034C32C1A8B

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Evidence of involvement in campaign fraud;

@earnincrypto1: page:(12).
Topic: [Bounty]DEGO.Finance Defi with Sustainability-100,000 DEGO Token[Total 8 weeks]

@Wolfers: page:(35).
Topic: [Bounty]DEGO.Finance Defi with Sustainability-100,000 DEGO Token[Total 8 weeks]

spreadsheets @earnincrypto1:(163), @Wolfers(489).

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ETH Wallet Address: 0x450894fe208a8870f9557b2D30819034C32C1A8B

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September 11, 2020, 07:11:44 PM
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Thanks for finding out these alt accounts in my bounty campaign. As a new bounty manager, my plan is after the ending of all weeks I will check every proof of authentication they submitted and the profiles too. I think it's the easiest way and it will take less time for that. However, I have marked these accounts in my spreadsheet and I won't allow any of these accounts in my bounty campaign.

Thanks for your hard work
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September 11, 2020, 07:33:36 PM
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OP, I get that you found linked ETH addresses by separate accounts in a single campaign, but what if they come here and complain that they're different people pooling their funds into one wallet?  If I recall correctly I've seen legitimate instances of that (though don't ask me to provide links, because I wouldn't know where to start). 

Not that I think it's likely, but that's the reason I stopped tagging suspected bounty cheaters based on this kind of evidence.  And frankly I think Fatemablabla should ban them, but I also think there probably should be some sort of  rule in bounties that members have to use unique addresses to avoid this sort of doubt.  That's just my opinion, though.  I still think most bounty participants have alts and that a lot of them are cheaters, so taking a harsh stance doesn't bother me one way or another.

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September 11, 2020, 07:47:21 PM
Last edit: September 12, 2020, 09:07:58 AM by Fatemablabla
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Not that I think it's likely, but that's the reason I stopped tagging suspected bounty cheaters based on this kind of evidence.  And frankly I think Fatemablabla should ban them, but I also think there probably should be some sort of  rule in bounties that members have to use unique addresses to avoid this sort of doubt.  That's just my opinion, though.  I still think most bounty participants have alts and that a lot of them are cheaters, so taking a harsh stance doesn't bother me one way or another.

I already marked those accounts on my spreadsheet. And in my bounty rules, I have that nobody can join with any alt account. But most of the bounty hunters who have alts use different addresses in different accounts. So catching them is not very easy. Only a few get caught because they don't know that many people keep eye on them. However, I will try my best to keep alt accounts away from my bounty. Thanks for your suggestion. Smiley
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OP, I get that you found linked ETH addresses by separate accounts in a single campaign, but what if they come here and complain that they're different people pooling their funds into one wallet?
Grandmother, uncle, aunt, sister-in-law, wife, husband, I see....!
That is a common reason for cheaters to do in campaigns, but I am too deaf for that reason, I know very well the transactions they made, flowed into one hole, only one person drank.

And frankly I think Fatemablabla should ban them,
Already cleaned.

so taking a harsh stance doesn't bother me one way or another.
While Alt accounts adhere to campaign rules, I think it's fine, greedy self-destruct.

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Grandmother, uncle, aunt, sister-in-law, wife, husband, I see....!
That is a common reason for cheaters to do in campaigns, but I am too deaf for that reason, I know very well the transactions they made, flowed into one hole, only one person drank.
I know, I've heard all of those reasons as well--and I have no problem with what you're doing here, so my previous post was not intended as criticism.  I never bought that "but but but...it's my cousin/dad/friend's account" stuff, because while it could be true, most likely it's not (IMO).

I've seen too many admissions of guilt by members who've gotten caught to take these bounty cheaters at their word.

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OP, I get that you found linked ETH addresses by separate accounts in a single campaign, but what if they come here and complain that they're different people pooling their funds into one wallet?  If I recall correctly I've seen legitimate instances of that (though don't ask me to provide links, because I wouldn't know where to start). 

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there are group of bounty hunters that are doing exactly that, sharing the same address and selling tokens all together to save few bucks (especially now when sending tokens on eth network ain't cheap) but this excuse has been so overused by real bounty abusers that no one buys that story anymore. Some people probably even lost the account over that, but well, they are collateral damage and should blame those that abuse the campaigns.

Same address=same account. Except in those rare cases when someone applies to bounty campaign using address of a well known user, trying to frame him, but no one will buy that anyway.

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Good find again YOSHIE !
It could be they are using same address to save on ethereum fees, but think again if they would trust single person to keep all their coins?
I don't think so.
More likely it is one person, using one browser and one metamask wallet, with multiple bitcointalk profiles.
Using same wallet in bounty campaigns is like many people wearing same dirty underwear or using same toothbrush.

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I can agree with The Pharmacist that many people can pool their funds into one wallet. But in this case, YOSHIE did not account for specific transactions that can be combined into one wallet. This is true?
Here you can see regular multi-accounts belonging to one, well, if you like, two people.
And this is a violation of the rules of bounty companies.
Assuming people can use one wallet, you can suggest that they use shared social media Grin.
Although bounty campaigns have become less popular on the forum, many have become more lenient with bounty hunters. But rules remain rules? Or why write them then?

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I dunno whether they cheated or not and I leave it to the manager to judge; but usually a bounty gets you like 100-200$ worth of tokens and recently transaction on ETH network touched 35$ for a single transaction; even I did a few pools to invest in ICOs recently due to high fees; so it is logical for ppl to use a single account to reduce transaction fees; the more the merrier.

For those who might doubt my case; I did it for Nucypher which had us staking ETH worth 2K and everyday we need to send a transaction for staking confirmation.
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account Alt involved in the violation.
the third case: (3).


1. Wolfers
2. earnincrypto1



Marked these two users also in my spreadsheet and will be banned with no rewards. Thanks again for your hard work and finding this alt accounts for me. I am taking these as one persons account. Because many of us said that due to high ETH network fees people are likely using 1 address to receive the token. But why would two people using the same telegram username? Does using two accounts in telegram also cost some money? NO, it's not. So, the owner of these two accounts is the same person.

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Because many of us said that due to high ETH network fees people are likely using 1 address to receive the token.

I don't think you should be lenient even in this case. By allowing people to use one wallet number, you enable cheaters to participate in your company with multiple multi-accounts. If the rules state that only one person is allowed to participate, then everyone needs to have everything unique.
I can guess, as many will start to make excuses, that they used the same telegram or social media name. They all say it was done by mistake. This is a very common lie. And who, if not a manager, needs to be very strict in maintaining order in his company? This is your reputation, and order will always be where there are strict control and accuracy from the staff.

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I don't think you should be lenient even in this case. By allowing people to use one wallet number, you enable cheaters to participate in your company with multiple multi-accounts. If the rules state that only one person is allowed to participate, then everyone needs to have everything unique.
I can guess, as many will start to make excuses, that they used the same telegram or social media name. They all say it was done by mistake. This is a very common lie. And who, if not a manager, needs to be very strict in maintaining order in his company? This is your reputation, and order will always be where there are strict control and accuracy from the staff.

I am not going to allow it to happen. I am not allowing multi people using one wallet. If they want to get payment from the company they have to use one address only in one account. Otherwise will be disqualified and will be known as an alt account of each other.

Thanks for your guide I am very strict on these things, will try my best that those alt account cheaters do not get any payment. Good day.
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account Alt involved in the violation.
the fourth case: (4).)


Account that is still active and cheating between Alt.

1. ivanovlb
2. arrowR

Account that has been blocked.

3. ronnis.gomes (Archived)
4. rickn (Archived)
5. supelle.born (Archived)

Address used by: @ivanovlb, in use by the account below.

Proof they are connected to the address they use.

ETH Wallet Address: 0xf204127E632f34714fb509FB12D7c02009feFdE9

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ETH wallet address: 0xf204127E632f34714fb509FB12D7c02009feFdE9

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Eth adress: 0xf204127E632f34714fb509FB12D7c02009feFdE9




Address used by: @arrowR, also used by the same account.

Proof they are connected to the address they use.

ETH Wallet Address: 0xb9799Ba09674166eF31eD336abEfEc34D83a7B09

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ETH wallet address: 0xb9799Ba09674166eF31eD336abEfEc34D83a7B09

Ethereum Address : 0xb9799Ba09674166eF31eD336abEfEc34D83a7B09

ETH address: 0xb9799Ba09674166eF31eD336abEfEc34D83a7B09

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Code:
Ethereum Address : 0xb9799Ba09674166eF31eD336abEfEc34D83a7B09
Eth adress: 0xf204127E632f34714fb509FB12D7c02009feFdE9

Proof they enrolled in the campaign:
@arrowR: page:(10).
Topic: [Bounty]DEGO.Finance Defi with Sustainability-100,000 DEGO Token[Total 8 weeks]

@ivanovlb: page:(11).
Topic: [Bounty]DEGO.Finance Defi with Sustainability-100,000 DEGO Token[Total 8 weeks]

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account Alt involved in the violation.
the fourth case: (4).)


Account that is still active and cheating between Alt.

1. ivanovlb
2. arrowR



Marked these accounts on my spreadsheet also. Thanks for tagging them.
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account Alt involved in the violation.
fifth case: (5).)


Just for information to campaign managers: DEGO.Finance.

The Alt users below are indeed cheating, but they have been blocked for some reason.

1. Sulman326 (Archived)
2. aqib180 (Archived)

Proof:

ETH Wallet Address: 0x34EF818D99e1C8686558a0F0025253C4Cd0520d5

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ETH address : 0x34EF818D99e1C8686558a0F0025253C4Cd0520d5

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Just proof that they Alt registered in the campaign.

@Sulman326 & @aqib180: page:(16).
Topic: [Bounty]DEGO.Finance Defi with Sustainability-100,000 DEGO Token[Total 8 weeks]

But I see they still get tokens / week, so, now they can be cleaned and marked in the spreadsheet.

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account Alt involved in the violation.
fifth case: (5).)


Just for information to campaign managers: DEGO.Finance.

The Alt users below are indeed cheating, but they have been blocked for some reason.

1. Sulman326 (Archived)
2. aqib180 (Archived)



Marked these two accounts in my spreadsheet. I will be checking this thread every Sunday after the update of spreadsheet done for the recent week. Thanks and a good job as always.
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