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September 14, 2020, 08:56:16 AM
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My first Lightning Payment Request for 200 satoshis Smiley
Eh, payment failure on my side (Wallet of Satoshi). Will try Blue Wallet in a moment.

EDIT: Blue Wallet fails too. If you installed Electrum, please try either Wallet of Satoshi or Blue wallet. They technically much easier.

I managed to pay this invoice using Electrum just now:


Maybe he's offline when you tried to send him funds (both tries), he didn't have inbound capacity at that moment or both wallet's channels doesn't route quite well.

BIG THANKS for that.

In any way, I found a good workaround if the receiving part could be offline. You just send a Lightning gift (www.lightning.gifts) and the receiving party can redeem it when they want.

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September 14, 2020, 09:19:06 AM
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Good thing that there are features you have just been discovered OP to give funds even when the receiving party is offline. The developer has been observed seeing this already and created a feature that will satisfy users and will remain user friendly as it could be like other bitcoin wallets. Anyway, I am starting to like the bitcoin lightning network and probably this could be the future of bitcoin transfer in the future or one of the best choice for bitcoin transfer.
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Good thing that there are feautures you have just been discovered OP to.give funds even when the receiving party is offline. This has been observed by the developer after seeing the feature that could not be likely as user friendly as it could be like other bitcoin wallets. Anyway, I am starting to like the bitcoin lightning network and probably this could be the future of bitcoin transfer in the future or one of the best choice for bitcoin transfer.

Especially, for micro- and minipayments! Lightning is quick and cheap.

Just for fun, I am hosting a Live Lightning Dice for people to try Lightning micropayments (bet=100 sats) (disclaimer: it's a non-profit project, i run it for promoting Lightning ):

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For the new Lightning users, first 200 sats are free from me to play around with Receiving/Sending Lightning payments.

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September 14, 2020, 08:40:44 PM
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Also checkout a simple faucet giving you 100 LN satoshis:

https://lnpay.co/t/27bad6/web

You need to have a Lightning Wallet installed and configured.

To avoid initial configuration issues, I would advise to start easy with custodial wallets like Blue Wallet or Wallet of Satoshi.

You will be able to migrate to Electrum later (I didn't because Wallet of Satoshi is fully OK for my micro- and mini-payments via LN).

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First time trying using wallet of Satoshi...

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Never tried LN before... Am I doing it correctly?

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September 15, 2020, 07:19:35 AM
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@bpovtmg Mind if I step in? (I already did actually, yesterday)
These three invoices have the same NodeID: 02004c625d622245606a1ea2c1c69cfb4516b703b47945a3647713c05fe4aaeb1c
I've also paid one of the invoices.

Never tried LN before... Am I doing it correctly?

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First time trying using wallet of Satoshi...

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Thanks!
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If anyone knows 'Wallet of Satoshi', does it use a single NodeID for all of the user's wallet?

For newbies, please enclose your invoice inside [code][/code] tags so the forum wont format it with spaces.

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September 15, 2020, 08:50:40 AM
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@bpovtmg Mind if I step in? (I already did actually, yesterday)
These three invoices have the same NodeID: 02004c625d622245606a1ea2c1c69cfb4516b703b47945a3647713c05fe4aaeb1c
I've also paid one of the invoices.

Never tried LN before... Am I doing it correctly?

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First time trying using wallet of Satoshi...

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Thanks!
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If anyone knows 'Wallet of Satoshi', does it use a single NodeID for all of the user's wallet?

For newbies, please enclose your invoice inside [code][/code] tags so the forum wont format it with spaces.

Thanks for your help! You think it's the same guy using different accounts?

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September 15, 2020, 08:59:51 AM
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If anyone knows 'Wallet of Satoshi', does it use a single NodeID for all of the user's wallet?

It is very likely since it is a custodial wallet. I have looked up their name on the 1ml.com explorer and found two nodes (#1 and #2). The former is the one which generated those invoices. The latter has a much lower capacity so it might not belong to that service at all.
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September 15, 2020, 09:11:50 AM
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Thanks for your help! You think it's the same guy using different accounts?
I didn't jump to conclusions since I'm not familiar with "Wallet of Satoshi".
There's a possibility but if it's a custodial wallet as pointed above, it can be the server's node.

Anyways, I'll try to pay some active invoice to help you with this very good initiative and to increase their LN micro funds.

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September 15, 2020, 09:51:29 AM
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Thanks for your help! You think it's the same guy using different accounts?
I didn't jump to conclusions since I'm not familiar with "Wallet of Satoshi".
There's a possibility but if it's a custodial wallet as pointed above, it can be the server's node.

Anyways, I'll try to pay some active invoice to help you with this very good initiative and to increase their LN micro funds.

Thanks, really appreciate your help.

I think I have a kind of a similar problem here with my 100 sats Lightning faucet:

https://lnpay.co/t/27bad6/web

One destination node drained the faucet in a short time (node 037cc5f9f1da20ac0d60). I suspect it's just one guy doing that. I am checking with the LnPay guys if we can solve that

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Great initiative to make Lightning Network more popular!
Most of the people don't have any idea how LN is working and never even tried to send or receive coins.
Now is the perfect time we all start using it.

I found one topic made by hugeblack with most LN supported wallets made by:






Name:CustodialAndroidIOSWeb walletLaunch DateGitHub repository
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BlueWalletYesDownloadDownloadNo2018iOS and Android
phoenixNoDownloadNoNo2019Android
BreezNoDownloadDownloadNo2019Android and iOS
zapNoDownloadDowlaodNo/windows2018Desktop | Android | iOS
ZeusNoDownloadDownloadNo2019Android
Eclair MobileNoDownloadNoNo2020Android
joule-extensionYesNoNoYes/in-browser2018Web extension
apolloNo/ 2-of-2 multisigNoNoYes¬-
CoinOSNoNoNoYes¬Web app
SparkNoDownloadNoYes2018Cross-platform
Peach Wallet *YesNoNoNo/Linux/windows2018Desktop
swiftlightning *NoNoIOSNo2018iOS
rawtx *No¬¬¬2018Web app
muun NoDownloadDownloadNo2019Android
Fulmo NoNoNo¬2018Fulmo
Lightning Mobile App NoDownloadNoNo2019Cross-platform
shockwalletNoDownloadNoNo2018Android





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Do your own research before using any of this wallets.

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I found one topic made by hugeblack with most LN supported wallets made by:

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I see that several popular wallets like Electrum and Wallet of Satoshi are missing from this list.
I did a little research on my own and these are the most popular LN wallets for the various platforms I have found:


LN-enabled Bitcoin Wallet||Platforms||Website
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Electrum [non-custodial]||Windows, Mac, Linux and Android||https://electrum.org/
Zap [non-custodial]||Windows, Mac, Linux, iOS and Android (alpha)||https://zaphq.io/
Breez [non-custodial]||iOS and Android||https://breez.technology/
Bitcoin Lightning Wallet (BLW) [non-custodial]||Android only||https://lightning-wallet.com/
Eclair Mobile by ACINQ||Android only||https://acinq.co/
Phoenix [non-custodial]||Android only||https://phoenix.acinq.co/
Zeus [non-custodial]||iOS and Android||https://zeusln.app/
Wallet of Satoshi [custodial]||iOS and Android||https://www.walletofsatoshi.com/
Tippin.me [custodial]||Chrome or Firefox browser extension||https://tippin.me/
Blue Wallet [custodial]||iOS and Android||https://bluewallet.io/

This is not a recommendation, so DYOR! Wink If anyone knows of any other wallet software that should be on the list, please let me know so I can add it.

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September 16, 2020, 01:23:31 AM
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Great to see this taking off and more people are joining in, I'm already part of this and joined the Telegram group, won the prize, didn't have time to play some dice with the gang Cheesy It is secondary anyway, fun though, but more important thing is that we are all learning about using LN.

Transactions are really fast though, I was pleasantly surprised, haven't tried sending any yet, so if there is someone new who wants to receive some satoshis, you can put your address here or on TG group and I'll give it a go and send some.

I have about 50000 satoshis at the moment.
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September 16, 2020, 01:31:14 PM
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Great to see this taking off and more people are joining in, I'm already part of this and joined the Telegram group, won the prize, didn't have time to play some dice with the gang Cheesy It is secondary anyway, fun though, but more important thing is that we are all learning about using LN.

Transactions are really fast though, I was pleasantly surprised, haven't tried sending any yet, so if there is someone new who wants to receive some satoshis, you can put your address here or on TG group and I'll give it a go and send some.

I have about 50000 satoshis at the moment.

Thanks, Crypto Warrior! It's really cool to see the LN thing lifting off!

Other members are cordially invited to join our LN (and other) fun here:
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September 19, 2020, 07:05:11 AM
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(3) I will send you 200 satoshis to get you started with the Lightning Network
Great initiative! I'll take some of the LN-requests if I see them (assuming you don't mind).

Also, for those who wants to try out Lightning without doing anything slightly complicated, I suggest trying out Phoenix Wallet. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5250677
I've tested several LN-wallets, and now prefer the ones that don't ask me to manually create channels. Out of all wallets mentioned in this topic, BlueWallet is my favourite custodial wallet, Phoenix is my favourite non-custodial wallet. Especially for small amounts, I don't mind trusting a wallet, and I don't want to go through the hassle of creating a channel and inbound capacity. As always, don't put in more than you're willing to lose!

Keep in mind that both of you need to have your wallets open when you are trying to send a payment. It is not possible to receive and route Lightning Network payments while being offline.
That only matters if you open your own channel. If you use a custodial wallet, it'll just work.

There is a good workaround using Lightning Gifts (www.lightning.gifts).
I've created a 200 sat gift. Free for whoever takes it first.
An alternatived is sat2.io. I haven't tested it because it sends funds to a phone number. I more or less trust it because it's promoted by BlueWallet on Telegram.



When posting a payment request, it's easiest if you add [code-tags] around it. Without that, it's easiest to copy the entire payment request from a mobile device by clicking the quote button first. This removes all spaces in between the long string.


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September 19, 2020, 07:14:25 AM
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I've created a 200 sat gift. Free for whoever takes it first.
An alternatived is sat2.io. I haven't tested it because it sends funds to a phone number. I more or less trust it because it's promoted by BlueWallet on Telegram.



When posting a payment request, it's easiest if you add [code-tags] around it. Without that, it's easiest to copy the entire payment request from a mobile device by clicking the quote button first. This removes all spaces in between the long string.




Join the TG group Cheesy  I'm posting again to say I'm open for requests here too since I don't see much activity now on Telegram.

I have a LN gift for first person that comes to this topic and join Telegram group - BPOVTMG Free LN.

When you join the Telegram group write your TG handle here and I will send you a LN gift.
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September 19, 2020, 07:19:05 AM
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Join the TG group Cheesy
I barely use Telegram. For security, I run it inside a VM, and don't often turn it on.

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Join the TG group Cheesy
I barely use Telegram. For security, I run it inside a VM, and don't often turn it on.

Seriously? But why? Are there any Telegram related security threats I should be aware of?

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