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September 22, 2020, 04:57:17 PM
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at 133.33mhs x3 card rig will be 400mhs. comparable to x4 3080 rig, but much expensive. not worth the density vs x4 3080.

but if you think about it, it is still better purchase than "500mhs eth asic is 4689$ at 750w" hehe

I do prefer the 3080 cause the gddrx6 on the 3090 is the same memory slightly binned, everything is better than asics because in the end has resale value and can mine other algos. ETH will soon halve the fees and mining rewards per block and then the 0.75 cents of usd per gpu today with the rx 570 will become 0.15 cents of usd or less per day per gpu, gpus are so expensive to a point mining already lost 50% of its income, if it was before 2016 you could buy a rx 5700 nowadays for $180, no joking, that is how used to be, gpus like the 3080 would be $499 and 3070 around $300.

Just don't fry your VRAM, tests for custom RXT30XX cards coming in few days(after RTX3090 review/test).

https://www.igorslab.de/en/simple-pad-mod-for-the-force-rtx-3080-founders-edition-slowers-the-gddr6x-temperature-by-a-whopping-8-degrees/


Yeah, it seems nvidia and micron wants to clear inventory of bad binned gddrx6 memory then they will use better ones in few months.

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September 22, 2020, 05:24:29 PM
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at 133.33mhs x3 card rig will be 400mhs. comparable to x4 3080 rig, but much expensive. not worth the density vs x4 3080.

but if you think about it, it is still better purchase than "500mhs eth asic is 4689$ at 750w" hehe

I do prefer the 3080 cause the gddrx6 on the 3090 is the same memory slightly binned, everything is better than asics because in the end has resale value and can mine other algos. ETH will soon halve the fees and mining rewards per block and then the 0.75 cents of usd per gpu today with the rx 570 will become 0.15 cents of usd or less per day per gpu, gpus are so expensive to a point mining already lost 50% of its income, if it was before 2016 you could buy a rx 5700 nowadays for $180, no joking, that is how used to be, gpus like the 3080 would be $499 and 3070 around $300.

Just don't fry your VRAM, tests for custom RXT30XX cards coming in few days(after RTX3090 review/test).

https://www.igorslab.de/en/simple-pad-mod-for-the-force-rtx-3080-founders-edition-slowers-the-gddr6x-temperature-by-a-whopping-8-degrees/


Yeah, it seems nvidia and micron wants to clear inventory of bad binned gddrx6 memory then they will use better ones in few months.

If block rewards are cut that much mining is over.
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If block rewards are cut that much mining is over.

Yeah, they have eips for both the fees and reduce block reward and if eth 2.0 is released then half reward will be for pos users and half for miners, hybrid.

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September 22, 2020, 06:00:24 PM
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If block rewards are cut that much mining is over.

Yeah, they have eips for both the fees and reduce block reward and if eth 2.0 iws released then half reward will be for pos users and half for miners, hybrid.

that is why miners who will survive the next culling need x2 hashrate to stay alive. 1080ti to 3080 is an example.

those who have low hashrate card but do not have physical space to add more cards and those who do not have electrical space to add more load will be the first to go.

if eth is no longer profitable to mine, the eth mining reliant cards (amd) will be on life support.

3080 cards (nvidia) that will do well on other algo will do better than others hehe


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that is why miners who will survive the next culling need x2 hashrate to stay alive. 1080ti to 3080 is an example.

those who have low hashrate card but do not have physical space to add more cards and those who do not have electrical space to add more load will be the first to go.

if eth is no longer profitable to mine, the eth mining reliant cards (amd) will be on life support.

3080 cards (nvidia) that will do well on other algo will do better than others hehe


Even if eth is around $1000, not sure if it will be enough to make up for, eth will have to be at least 1500 usd to be more or less profitable. Well on the positive side of things, 4gb gpus will be gone forever hehe but i dont think 4gb gpus comprise of 50% of total hashrate hehe, well there are 4gb asics that will die too and that is good.

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September 22, 2020, 06:05:41 PM
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If block rewards are cut that much mining is over.

Yeah, they have eips for both the fees and reduce block reward and if eth 2.0 iws released then half reward will be for pos users and half for miners, hybrid.

that is why miners who will survive the next culling need x2 hashrate to stay alive. 1080ti to 3080 is an example.

those who have low hashrate card but do not have physical space to add more cards and those who do not have electrical space to add more load will be the first to go.

if eth is no longer profitable to mine, the eth mining reliant cards (amd) will be on life support.

3080 cards (nvidia) that will do well on other algo will do better than others hehe




You need cheap power, once eth is done theirs so much GPU power no matter how much power you have your margins will be very thin.  I have 135 gpus started in late 2016, 90 of the gpus are almost 4 years old.  Not sure what I'm going to do.  The bright side of gpus is they maintain their resale value.  Pretty amazing I can sell my 1070s for over $100 and I paid $340 for them over 3 years ago. 
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September 22, 2020, 06:09:39 PM
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If block rewards are cut that much mining is over.

Yeah, they have eips for both the fees and reduce block reward and if eth 2.0 iws released then half reward will be for pos users and half for miners, hybrid.

that is why miners who will survive the next culling need x2 hashrate to stay alive. 1080ti to 3080 is an example.

those who have low hashrate card but do not have physical space to add more cards and those who do not have electrical space to add more load will be the first to go.

if eth is no longer profitable to mine, the eth mining reliant cards (amd) will be on life support.

3080 cards (nvidia) that will do well on other algo will do better than others hehe




You need cheap power, once eth is done theirs so much GPU power no matter how much power you have your margins will be very thin.  

yup. crypto mining is monetizing cheap power, plus gear management.

gear management involves "strategic upgrades" among others..
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September 22, 2020, 06:52:29 PM
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Pretty amazing I can sell my 1070s for over $100 and I paid $340 for them over 3 years ago.  

Yeah but you need to understand gpus prices are not like used to be, gtx 1070 used to be sold for $349, now $499. Yeah, if you buy a 3070 today for $499 and then gpus prices increase once again to a 4070 $699 then yes you will have a resale value better than when you bought and that will hold but pay attention that $349 you paid in 2016 is today $499, inflation and other things. A good example is when you could buy a 3 bedroom house for 500 dollars some decades ago and today that money is worth a 3070 ehhe

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September 22, 2020, 07:10:16 PM
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Pretty amazing I can sell my 1070s for over $100 and I paid $340 for them over 3 years ago.  

Yeah but you need to understand gpus prices are not like used to be, gtx 1070 used to be sold for $349, now $499. Yeah, if you buy a 3070 today for $499 and then gpus prices increase once again to a 4070 $699 then yes you will have a resale value better than when you bought and that will hold but pay attention that $349 you paid in 2016 is today $499, inflation and other things. A good example is when you could buy a 3 bedroom house for 500 dollars some decades ago and today that money is worth a 3070 ehhe

Yep, that's the speed of money. A dollar today is worth 2 in the future. A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush, or something like that haha. Mining is a good hedge against all the crypto's value going to poop.

Getting $100 for a video after 4 years might sound great now until you consider in 4 years it's 1/2 of what it is right now. As always it's good to diversify - own different types of wealth (property, equities, rentals) and even in mining own nVidia and AMD cards in a mix.
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September 22, 2020, 07:10:53 PM
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Pretty amazing I can sell my 1070s for over $100 and I paid $340 for them over 3 years ago.  

Yeah but you need to understand gpus prices are not like used to be, gtx 1070 used to be sold for $349, now $499. Yeah, if you buy a 3070 today for $499 and then gpus prices increase once again to a 4070 $699 then yes you will have a resale value better than when you bought and that will hold but pay attention that $349 you paid in 2016 is today $499, inflation and other things. A good example is when you could buy a 3 bedroom house for 500 dollars some decades ago and today that money is worth a 3070 ehhe

If you apply inflation, the 100$ resale value is around 30-50$ when that card is still brand new years ago. That's why for people who ROI their cards many times over, they just want those old card out of their precious space, so they can put the new cards in their place.
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September 22, 2020, 07:14:21 PM
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Pretty amazing I can sell my 1070s for over $100 and I paid $340 for them over 3 years ago.  

Yeah but you need to understand gpus prices are not like used to be, gtx 1070 used to be sold for $349, now $499. Yeah, if you buy a 3070 today for $499 and then gpus prices increase once again to a 4070 $699 then yes you will have a resale value better than when you bought and that will hold but pay attention that $349 you paid in 2016 is today $499, inflation and other things. A good example is when you could buy a 3 bedroom house for 500 dollars some decades ago and today that money is worth a 3070 ehhe

Yep, that's the speed of money. A dollar today is worth 2 in the future. A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush, or something like that haha. Mining is a good hedge against all the crypto's value going to poop.

Getting $100 for a video after 4 years might sound great now until you consider in 4 years it's 1/2 of what it is right now. As always it's good to diversify - own different types of wealth (property, equities, rentals) and even in mining own nVidia and AMD cards in a mix.

Diversify? Looks more like a portfolio to me, you add healthy foods in the mix because wherever you are going with all the poverty prevention, if that one and only body fails-game over.
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September 22, 2020, 07:28:02 PM
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Pretty amazing I can sell my 1070s for over $100 and I paid $340 for them over 3 years ago.  

Yeah but you need to understand gpus prices are not like used to be, gtx 1070 used to be sold for $349, now $499. Yeah, if you buy a 3070 today for $499 and then gpus prices increase once again to a 4070 $699 then yes you will have a resale value better than when you bought and that will hold but pay attention that $349 you paid in 2016 is today $499, inflation and other things. A good example is when you could buy a 3 bedroom house for 500 dollars some decades ago and today that money is worth a 3070 ehhe

Yep, that's the speed of money. A dollar today is worth 2 in the future. A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush, or something like that haha. Mining is a good hedge against all the crypto's value going to poop.

Getting $100 for a video after 4 years might sound great now until you consider in 4 years it's 1/2 of what it is right now. As always it's good to diversify - own different types of wealth (property, equities, rentals) and even in mining own nVidia and AMD cards in a mix.

Diversify? Looks more like a portfolio to me, you add healthy foods in the mix because wherever you are going with all the poverty prevention, if that one and only body fails-game over.

Well to be able to play 'both" sides of the table you need to have troops or support on both sides. Being able to respond quickly to changes often leads to better outcomes. More options equals more chances to get to a point of success.
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Well to be able to play 'both" sides of the table you need to have troops or support on both sides. Being able to respond quickly to changes often leads to better outcomes. More options equals more chances to get to a point of success.

Exactly that is the reason i never stay 100% in cryptocoins, I always hold 20 to 30% in cash in case the price crashes and I have that money to buy more.

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October 13, 2020, 11:53:35 AM
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Some Updates of values in Ethash:

NbMiner = 95.32Mhs (1% Fee)
PhoenixMiner = 94.82Mhs (0.65% Fee)
TTminer = 89.88Mh (0% Fee)

Values in HiveOS:

CORE  50
MEM 1500
PL   215


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October 14, 2020, 04:27:37 AM
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hi all , any1 have equihash 192,7 hashrate for 3090 3080     ....cheers
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October 14, 2020, 06:18:57 AM
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That 3090 is really expensive. Would you guys be willing to part with $1400 to get your hands on RTX 3090? Don't you guys think mining with RTX 3080 would be much better $$$ wise?

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From https://www.reddit.com/r/gpumining/comments/jasf43/nvidia_rtx_3080_founders_edition_mining/

Phoenix Miner - ETH
85 Mhs   0 core / 0 mem   TDP - 100%   320 Watt
91.5 Mhs   0 core / 500 mem   TDP - 75%   240 Watt
96.3 Mhs   0 core / 950 mem   TDP - 75%   240 Watt
95.4 Mhs   0 core / 950 mem   TDP - 70%   225 Watt
96.5 Mhs   50 core / 950 mem   TDP - 75%   240 Watt
96.5 Mhs   100 core / 950 mem   TDP - 75%   240 Watt

*Note*
1000 Mhz Memory Clock crashes the system.
Pushing TDP below 70%, the core clocks will fluctuate too much, bouncing between 300mhz up to 1700mhz.


T-Rex Miner - KAWPoW
43.8 Mhs   0 core / 0 mem   TDP - 100%   320 Watt
41.8 Mhs   0 core / 0 mem   TDP - 75%   240 Watt
43.7 Mhs   100 core / 0 mem   TDP - 80%   255 Watt
44.6 Mhs   100 core / 200 mem   TDP - 80%   255 Watt


T-Rex Miner - Zcoin - MTP
6.41 Mhs   0 core / 0 mem   TDP - 100%   320 Watt
4.97 Mhs   0 core / 0 mem   TDP - 75%   240 Watt
5.3 Mhs   0 core / 0 mem   TDP - 80%   255 Watt
5.56 Mhs   100 core / 0 mem   TDP - 80%   255 Watt
5.55 Mhs   100 core / 200 mem   TDP - 80%   255 Watt


Gminer - Zhash
153.9 Sols   0 core / 0 mem   TDP - 100%   320 Watt
130.5 Sols   100 core / 0 mem   TDP - 80%   255 Watt
130.7 Sols   100 core / 200 mem   TDP - 80%   255 Watt


Gminer - Cuckatoo32
0.91 G/s   0 core / 0 mem   TDP - 100%   320 Watt
0.83 G/s   0 core / 0 mem   TDP - 80%   255 Watt
0.84 G/s   100 core / 0 mem   TDP - 80%   255 Watt
0.87 G/s   100 core / 200 mem   TDP - 80%   255 Watt


Gminer - Aion - Equihash (210,9)
515 Sols   0 core / 0 mem   TDP - 100%   320 Watt
480 Sols   0 core / 0 mem   TDP - 80%   255 Watt
483 Sols   100 core / 0 mem   TDP - 80%   255 Watt
487 Sols   100 core / 200 mem   TDP - 80%   255 Watt


Gminer - Beam - BeamHashIII
47.7 Sols   0 core / 0 mem   TDP - 100%   320 Watt
43.4 Sols   0 core / 0 mem   TDP - 80%   255 Watt
44.1 Sols   100 core / 0 mem   TDP - 80%   255 Watt
44.7 Sols   100 core / 200 mem   TDP - 80%   255 Watt
45.4 Sols   100 core / 300 mem   TDP - 80%   255 Watt


Gminer - Beam - BeamHashIII
15.65 G/s   0 core / 0 mem   TDP - 100%   320 Watt
14.64 G/s   0 core / 0 mem   TDP - 80%   255 Watt
14.9 G/s   100 core / 0 mem   TDP - 80%   255 Watt
14.88 G/s   100 core / 200 mem   TDP - 80%   255 Watt

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October 14, 2020, 06:52:53 AM
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@ metroid

you double post the beamhashIII

anyway it seems 3080 is basically around x2 of 1080ti..as usual best settings are in the 70%-80% tdp.

3080 is the clear successor of 1080ti.
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@ metroid

you double post the beamhashIII

anyway it seems 3080 is basically around x2 of 1080ti..as usual best settings are in the 70%-80% tdp.

3080 is the clear successor of 1080ti.

The original poster did it, it seems both are somehow different, might have been a different version of beam.

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chill out guys 3000 series debate heats up  Grin

3090 doesnt make sense to buy for mining, even 3080/3070

at this point and future to come, efficiency less impact for profit gpu mining cause we are in bull run for next 1-2 years,

build up cheaper gpu for bucks more sense to me, rather than buying new cards with inflated price only for efficiency

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