Boris is right a second lockdown could cripple UK economy.

[Juggy777]

Anthony Costello (ex who expert) has sensationally claimed that there’re 38k cases of covid infections taking place daily in UK, and there have been claims about lack of testing too. It is due to these claims that Chief Medical Officer for England Chris Whitty is pushing for a 2 week strict lockdown, but Boris is resisting this and like it or not I feel that he’s taking the correct decision at this stage. While I understand that covid effects are dangerous, but UK’s economy currently is fragile, and shutting it now could completely cripple whatever is left of their economy, hence I support Boris call that UK should not do a fresh lockdown.

Ex-WHO expert Anthony Costello tweeted: "I’m hearing from a well-connected person that government now thinks, in absence of testing, there are 38,000 infections per day.

"Chris Whitty is advising PM for a two week national lockdown."

Source:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/chief-medical-adviser-chris-whitty-22696770#source=breaking-news

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[jackg]

But it's fine for the Cumbrics (Manchester and Yorkshire) to have to go through a month of a lockdown?.

Nimby (not in my back yard) culture has returned then apparently....

So their intent was just to cripple the North... Nice!

Phasing in and out of lockdown might be possible for reducing spread. A month of people socialising like normal followed by a 2 week lockdown (or even people socialising like normal and isolating for 3 days afterwards)...

[AjithBtc]

UK has got around 38K covid-19 cases on regular basis. With this Boris coming up with the statement of lockdown crippling the economy is true. Already governments suffer a lot to recover from the economic downfall. In my country we've got more than 80k covid-19 cases regularly. Our Prime Minister is clear on his decision, there is no more lockdown anymore. Upon this I don't find the statement of Boris a big thing.

[audaciousbeing]

Anthony Costello (ex who expert) has sensationally claimed that there’re 38k cases of covid infections taking place daily in UK, and there have been claims about lack of testing too. It is due to these claims that Chief Medical Officer for England Chris Whitty is pushing for a 2 week strict lockdown, but Boris is resisting this and like it or not I feel that he’s taking the correct decision at this stage. While I understand that covid effects are dangerous, but UK’s economy currently is fragile, and shutting it now could completely cripple whatever is left of their economy, hence I support Boris call that UK should not do a fresh lockdown.

Ex-WHO expert Anthony Costello tweeted: "I’m hearing from a well-connected person that government now thinks, in absence of testing, there are 38,000 infections per day.

"Chris Whitty is advising PM for a two week national lockdown."

Source:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/chief-medical-adviser-chris-whitty-22696770#source=breaking-news

Eventually, the UK authorities will have to take a decision and choose which one they are going to save. The economy is very important at this point and its not the fault of the PM to take that stand eventually if the economy should collapse a lot of lives might be further lost that goes beyond the people that would be infected by COVID-19. The PM thoughts goes beyond health but the impact on every sector on the country should the lockdown happened again.

[mu_enrico]

I bet after the second lockdown (if implemented), there will be the third, fourth, and so on. Lockdown doesn't work except the military strictly disallows people to get out or get shot on sight. And after all the hassle and obvious massive economic problems, it takes only one zombie to infect the people.

I think Boris's decision wasn't mainly motivated by the economy, but just common sense and for liberty reason.

[dimonstration]

UK has got around 38K covid-19 cases on regular basis. With this Boris coming up with the statement of lockdown crippling the economy is true. Already governments suffer a lot to recover from the economic downfall. In my country we've got more than 80k covid-19 cases regularly. Our Prime Minister is clear on his decision, there is no more lockdown anymore. Upon this I don't find the statement of Boris a big thing.

80k is big there is a need for lockdown if it happens regularly, the econmony can soon to survive but the lives of the people mlatters at these Time, but if the people will not still follow any protocols or observed their self and surroundings to keep them safe then better not do it and prioritize recovering the economy.
Boris may come up to the idea of lockdown to flatten or atleast lower the number of people infected but it will only be useless if it will not be implemented stricter that before or make it more stricter so the virus will not spread fast.

[jacafbiz]

I can tell you that if testing is romped up these expert will still tell you that we need another lock down. Most of these so called expert have never experience limelight like this before and they are enjoying it because people are talk their opinion serious, once this is over they are forgotten. Boris should resist this and wait for vaccine or herd immunity take over

[abhiseshakana]

Eventually, the UK authorities will have to take a decision and choose which one they are going to save. The economy is very important at this point and its not the fault of the PM to take that stand eventually if the economy should collapse a lot of lives might be further lost that goes beyond the people that would be infected by COVID-19. The PM thoughts goes beyond health but the impact on every sector on the country should the lockdown happened again.

There are two reasons Johnson is taking steps to lean more towards the economy than on health. This is due to his overconfidence in the discovery of the vaccine and in fact, Johnson is a supporter of herd immunity. Not much different from Trump, who initially considered that a pandemic is a natural selection, in the end it is the strong who can survive. According to Johnson, freedom creates happiness which eventually becomes antibodies to fight the virus. Learning from China, Taiwan, Vietnam, New Zealand, the keys to handling a pandemic are experience, leadership, management & technology.

[Mauser]

Anthony Costello (ex who expert) has sensationally claimed that there’re 38k cases of covid infections taking place daily in UK, and there have been claims about lack of testing too. It is due to these claims that Chief Medical Officer for England Chris Whitty is pushing for a 2 week strict lockdown, but Boris is resisting this and like it or not I feel that he’s taking the correct decision at this stage. While I understand that covid effects are dangerous, but UK’s economy currently is fragile, and shutting it now could completely cripple whatever is left of their economy, hence I support Boris call that UK should not do a fresh lockdown.

Ex-WHO expert Anthony Costello tweeted: "I’m hearing from a well-connected person that government now thinks, in absence of testing, there are 38,000 infections per day.

"Chris Whitty is advising PM for a two week national lockdown."

Source:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/chief-medical-adviser-chris-whitty-22696770#source=breaking-news

I think another lockdown would cripple any country, not only the UK. Almost every country will have a negative growth in GDP this year due to corona and lock downs. We saw drops in all major countries between 7-30%, which is massive. We just can't afford another lock down. There needs to be a trade off between saving lifes and stabilising the economy. I believe we should be taking good care of high risk people and elderly people, but closing down the hole country for everyone is just too much. We still don't know how long corona will be around so it's better to adapt to a life with corona.

[fiulpro]

Crippling the economy is different and Saving people is another.

-lockdown is essential!!
-the jobs have to be shifted virtually
-jobs needs to be created in a bigger number now
-the wages have to be above a certain minimum
-people should be provided with less interest rates
-EMI and such things should be halted for a while
-It is needed to do more tests
-Vaccination will take a while thus I do believe we are in here for like 2 years

Lock down is essential but complete lockdown is very unnecessary , what we need is adaptive lockdown.

[exstasie]

In the US, I'd say don't even bother. It won't work. Half the country will ignore all the rules, enforcement will be nonexistent just like the first time around, and the economy will be bludgeoned to death for little to no benefit.

But in the UK, maybe? It worked the first time around, didn't it?

Spain and France look even worse than the UK:



...although death rates are better this time around. If we do see another round of lockdowns, it'll shake the markets hard. It would be a great catalyst for a selloff in stock markets, and therefore also in BTC.

[Renampun]

The new lockdown will only worsen the economy of the city or state...
Not only that, of course, the new Lockdown will also only turn citizens against the government because there is no certainty that the Lockdown is effective. Boris made the right decision.

[Lucius]

We have all seen what a complete lockdown means, and I think it should be avoided if at all possible - and what needs to be implemented are intensified measures in cities or regions where there are a large number of infected. These measures must include the mandatory wearing of protective masks in all enclosed spaces, the mandatory disinfection of hands and the maintenance of social contact - and a limited number of persons at all public gatherings.

What I see at the moment as a big problem are young people who behave completely irresponsibly because they know that the consequences of the infection are very small for them - so they are allowed to live an almost normal life that spreads the infection among the elderly population.

Some have not yet figured out exactly what this is all about and refuse to change their lifestyle even though we are very close to 1 million victims of this virus only in the first wave. For some countries, there may be no choice but to lockdown - otherwise we could watch scenes from some cataclysmic movies where the army goes from house to house and collects dead people.

[inoes]

it would not be possible to completely lock it. there are definitely some companies still operating that are sustaining life in the country. surely the country is implementing policies that can still make the economy survive. because Hancock said that the lockdown was a last resort. and he convincingly said that the government will do whatever it takes to contain the coronavirus ...

[mindrust]

I bet after the second lockdown (if implemented), there will be the third, fourth, and so on. Lockdown doesn't work except the military strictly disallows people to get out or get shot on sight. And after all the hassle and obvious massive economic problems, it takes only one zombie to infect the people.

I think Boris's decision wasn't mainly motivated by the economy, but just common sense and for liberty reason.

That's exactly how a lockdown should be enforced.

This infection doesn't like half measures.

This is how China fights Covid19:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfsdJGj3-jM

I didn't believe their low case numbers before but after watching this video above, it started to make sense.

[exstasie]

What I see at the moment as a big problem are young people who behave completely irresponsibly because they know that the consequences of the infection are very small for them - so they are allowed to live an almost normal life that spreads the infection among the elderly population.

Some have not yet figured out exactly what this is all about and refuse to change their lifestyle even though we are very close to 1 million victims of this virus only in the first wave.

Whether some people in their 20s infect each other doesn't matter all that much. The irresponsible part is where people coming into contact with elderly populations don't take precautions, or where elderly people themselves throw caution to the wind. I don't know how we address this exactly.

The bottom line is older and more vulnerable populations need to segregate themselves from the population. That is where the emphasis needs to be. Putting unbearable restrictions on movement of the entire population not only destroys the economy, but younger people will find it irrational and they won't abide. They will even start protesting, as we saw last time.

I bet after the second lockdown (if implemented), there will be the third, fourth, and so on. Lockdown doesn't work except the military strictly disallows people to get out or get shot on sight. And after all the hassle and obvious massive economic problems, it takes only one zombie to infect the people.

I think Boris's decision wasn't mainly motivated by the economy, but just common sense and for liberty reason.

That's exactly how a lockdown should be enforced.

This infection doesn't like half measures.

This is how China fights Covid19:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfsdJGj3-jM

I didn't believe their low case numbers before but after watching this video above, it started to make sense.

How do you feel about that, morally?

[mindrust]

I bet after the second lockdown (if implemented), there will be the third, fourth, and so on. Lockdown doesn't work except the military strictly disallows people to get out or get shot on sight. And after all the hassle and obvious massive economic problems, it takes only one zombie to infect the people.

I think Boris's decision wasn't mainly motivated by the economy, but just common sense and for liberty reason.

That's exactly how a lockdown should be enforced.

This infection doesn't like half measures.

This is how China fights Covid19:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfsdJGj3-jM

I didn't believe their low case numbers before but after watching this video above, it started to make sense.

How do you feel about that, morally?

Morally? Is there something to feel bad about shooting people down during a lockdown? Because that's how lockdowns work.

Not saying lockdown is the only way to get rid of the virus but it damn sure would slow it down. (I'd prefer a medicine)

If people don't want to comply, make them comply. I don't know about you but I  liked the way how the Chinese dealt with the virus.

How is that working for the US where half of the population refuse to wear masks?

[South Park]

Anthony Costello (ex who expert) has sensationally claimed that there’re 38k cases of covid infections taking place daily in UK, and there have been claims about lack of testing too. It is due to these claims that Chief Medical Officer for England Chris Whitty is pushing for a 2 week strict lockdown, but Boris is resisting this and like it or not I feel that he’s taking the correct decision at this stage. While I understand that covid effects are dangerous, but UK’s economy currently is fragile, and shutting it now could completely cripple whatever is left of their economy, hence I support Boris call that UK should not do a fresh lockdown.

Ex-WHO expert Anthony Costello tweeted: "I’m hearing from a well-connected person that government now thinks, in absence of testing, there are 38,000 infections per day.

"Chris Whitty is advising PM for a two week national lockdown."

Source:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/chief-medical-adviser-chris-whitty-22696770#source=breaking-news

I think that lockdowns are not really the way forward what we need to do is to enforce more strictly the use of all the measures needed to prevent the spread of the virus, for example in most cities you can see everyone with face masks but many are wearing them incorrectly and while everyone knows that it is uncomfortable to wear the face masks correctly if you are in pubic you must do so in order to protect yourself and others, small things like that could help curb the advance of the virus with lockdowns being the last resort.

[palle11]

Another round of locking the UK is going to go heavy negatively to the economy that has really been hit already by covid-19. This is about choosing the best evil. As for the economy, their should be what will sustain people after the end of covid-19 and shutting down totally has not helped many economy.

[exstasie]

That's exactly how a lockdown should be enforced.

This infection doesn't like half measures.

This is how China fights Covid19:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfsdJGj3-jM

I didn't believe their low case numbers before but after watching this video above, it started to make sense.

How do you feel about that, morally?

Morally? Is there something to feel bad about shooting people down during a lockdown?

Yes. I'm a libertarian. I believe in unequivocal freedom of movement. Not letting people outside and not letting people work, particularly when the virus does not transmit well outside and where people can maintain social distance, is incredibly authoritarian. Shooting people over it? Insanity!

How is that working for the US where half of the population refuse to wear masks?

It doesn't seem that bad, honestly. At this point, the initial lockdown appears to have been complete overkill, crippling the economy for little benefit. Masks are pretty ubiquitous now and infections are consistently dropping in the US. Clearly masks are the answer, not lockdowns.

People are rational. When they realized the virus was not particularly dangerous, and that lockdowns threatened their livelihood and ability to feed their families and keep a roof over their head, they rationally decided that lockdowns were unacceptable. I honestly don't blame them. It's really messed up for governments to pick who gets to work and who doesn't, who has to burn through all their savings and who doesn't, who ends up broke and homeless and who doesn't. There are no bailouts for the poor, for renters. They have no choice. It's easy for middle class homeowners working from home or collecting $2,400 extra a month on unemployment while deferring their mortgage payments, to pass judgment on poor people who can't afford to stay locked down. It must be nice to get bailed out by the government!