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October 15, 2020, 11:14:35 AM
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You are right, now a days it seems the project are handled by experienced BM, but could able to find best bounty and this may lead them to lose their reputation in the market. Most of the bounty project we are seeing in the market are loosing their reputation due to their intention is to scam the investors and promoters who are promoting it.

I love how BountyDetective decided to restore its reputation on the forum among bounty hunters by launching bounties for those who had not previously received payment for their work: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281562.0 As a reward for your work BountyDetective offers $ 5,000 worth of BNB, which they indicate is guaranteed to be paid to members.

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October 15, 2020, 12:12:15 PM
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Therefore it's clearly mentioned in almost every bounty that the team and bounty manager has rights to make any kind of changes in bounty I wonder why some of us don't read this important point it's bounty participant's responsibility to read the rules properly so there won't be confusions at the end of bounty campaign.
Yes, and some of the participants who are not observant in reading the rules are those who still know very little about bounties or bounty rules in general, but for those who have worked in bounties for a long time, of course they always pay attention to this important point so that they don't get it wrong.
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October 15, 2020, 01:14:25 PM
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Sometimes you can't know if a bounty manager is promoting a scam project even if you do research until it's time to pay bounty hunters, few bounty projects are very good but the main problem is the bounty manager, it's better to create room and do research on bounty managers with high reputations on this forum like Hhampuz, wapinter, arteezy and bubbalex
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October 15, 2020, 01:22:40 PM
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I agree that people need to pay more attention to bounties and stop jumping on everything that comes by. Its the only way you'll be able to sort through scams and real projects. Check whitepaper, website, team, manager background, partnership etc. Ask yourself whether you would personally invest in the project before joining their bounty. If the answer is no, then guess what? Time is money, so don't waste it.

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October 15, 2020, 01:27:41 PM
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The best solution to be saved from participating in scam bounties is to ask a prepayment from the team  Grin But hunters should sign an agreement that obliges them to do tasks.

Or projects should transfer rewards to hunters address in advance, but unfreeze them manually for each hunter, after they check if hunters has done tasks.

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October 15, 2020, 01:35:53 PM
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I agree that people need to pay more attention to bounties and stop jumping on everything that comes by. Its the only way you'll be able to sort through scams and real projects. Check whitepaper, website, team, manager background, partnership etc. Ask yourself whether you would personally invest in the project before joining their bounty. If the answer is no, then guess what? Time is money, so don't waste it.

Sometimes the project just didn't get successful at the end of the day and so that's still considered as a waste of time right?
A bounty hunter should always bear in mind the level of risks when joining bounty campaigns. If you wanna be careful of not landing into a scam manager but lazy in terms of checking the project's background, then better be patient and wait for the bounty projects that's being handled by the reputable managers in this community. Because these managers don't easily approves offer from a suspicious team.

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October 15, 2020, 02:00:31 PM
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The best solution to be saved from participating in scam bounties is to ask a prepayment from the team  Grin But hunters should sign an agreement that obliges them to do tasks.

Or projects should transfer rewards to hunters address in advance, but unfreeze them manually for each hunter, after they check if hunters has done tasks.
no one could guarantee hunters will do their job correctly although sign agreement. this is online and remote job which is no one need to meet and sign agreement, and ofcourse there is no developer team will pay hunter before they finished all task. in bounty campaign history there is no model like this, the fair one only using trusted escrow so no one will harmed about bounty reward.
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October 15, 2020, 02:36:34 PM
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Some bounty managers have been known to promote scam projects and I believe because they have users who rush to sign up, they keep being agents of scam project and not escrowing rewards.
More is that, the reasons bounty has been paying shit is because you rushing over it and they decide to list below, compare it with 2017 coins.

I believe some users are getting worried and fade up on lack of fulfilment of bounty promises at the end because the promises are not met as you either get scammed or the worth of your thousand units is = to a dollar ($1) at the end of many weeks.

When you work for months and dump total worth for $15 (rare case) if you get up to that, you have just paid for your data usage. What about your time? Inconveniences etc.

They take advantage of hunters that participated and not pay reward with different excuses which are :


1. KYC introduced while it was not started from beginning:
Know your customer is actually not necessary in a decentralized setting, all you need is to guide yourself or company because decentralized system should guarantee freedom. Why then introduce it at the end, to prevent participants from receiving their labour. I believe most times, this is to push out because if they are genuine, they should state it clearly from beginning that KYC is a necessary factor to receive reward. Example is bubbalex, his bounty has been one of the most sincere type I have read, from beginning to end is the way it is done. To
time for listing, times and dates for distribution.
All information about the growth of the project in different SM channels, medium, Twitter, telegram. No KYC introduced at the beginning and to the end.

2.The excuses of launch of website, app, main net, sales , soft cap are all reason you should understand you are wasting your time especially when you get shit pay.

What you can do if you like the project and you are not sure of  the promises


Save up to buy if you don't have money, you can wait for it when it is listed and dumped, you buy cheap.


If you have not checked this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230885.msg53975958#msg53975958

I would like to add that not only scam bounty projects can waste your time. Ive experienced once in a seemingly legit project to be kicked out of the project itself for their shit security. Some a-hole copied my wallet and posted it as theirs, even tho i havent missed a single task ive been kicked out for having double accounts, which i dont. Its just sht security that threw my hardwork to the dumps.




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October 15, 2020, 02:47:21 PM
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Some bounty managers have been known to promote scam projects and I believe because they have users who rush to sign up, they keep being agents of scam project and not escrowing rewards.
More is that, the reasons bounty has been paying shit is because you rushing over it and they decide to list below, compare it with 2017 coins.

I believe some users are getting worried and fade up on lack of fulfilment of bounty promises at the end because the promises are not met as you either get scammed or the worth of your thousand units is = to a dollar ($1) at the end of many weeks.

When you work for months and dump total worth for $15 (rare case) if you get up to that, you have just paid for your data usage. What about your time? Inconveniences etc.

They take advantage of hunters that participated and not pay reward with different excuses which are :


1. KYC introduced while it was not started from beginning:
Know your customer is actually not necessary in a decentralized setting, all you need is to guide yourself or company because decentralized system should guarantee freedom. Why then introduce it at the end, to prevent participants from receiving their labour. I believe most times, this is to push out because if they are genuine, they should state it clearly from beginning that KYC is a necessary factor to receive reward. Example is bubbalex, his bounty has been one of the most sincere type I have read, from beginning to end is the way it is done. To
time for listing, times and dates for distribution.
All information about the growth of the project in different SM channels, medium, Twitter, telegram. No KYC introduced at the beginning and to the end.

2.The excuses of launch of website, app, main net, sales , soft cap are all reason you should understand you are wasting your time especially when you get shit pay.

What you can do if you like the project and you are not sure of  the promises


Save up to buy if you don't have money, you can wait for it when it is listed and dumped, you buy cheap.


If you have not checked this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230885.msg53975958#msg53975958
I do get confused and hesitate to join even a good project campaign by a bounty manager who ran a bounty campaign previously that did not pay bounty hunters or making excuses even after months. So reward distribution is like the most important part or step of a bounty campaign and bounty manager should be responsible for it.

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OP is right and I also noticed that mostly newbie bounty hunters don't know where to join they are just joining all the campaigns they can join without checking any background of a project and the bounty manager and actually I have a good suggestion it must be better if newbies will be restricted on bounty section and only allow Jr member and up will be allowed In this way those new members who joins random bounty will be reduced they must spend more months first or rank up to Jr member to be able to join in bounty.

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It's an act of cheating if a bounty project ask for KYC all of a sudden after they announced that their bounty don't need KYC, the reason why they get away with this easily is the rules that always says that it can be changed at any time, some bounty managers are intentionally using this rules to get away with unfairness behaving over Bounty Hunters

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October 15, 2020, 06:32:27 PM
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Some bounty managers have been known to promote scam projects and I believe because they have users who rush to sign up, they keep being agents of scam project and not escrowing rewards.
More is that, the reasons bounty has been paying shit is because you rushing over it and they decide to list below, compare it with 2017 coins.


When will this BS stops?why always Bounty hunters are there to be blamed?
Actually, it will never stop because 95% of all bounty hunters dont do adequate reaearch about the project they advertise and what they do is rely on the bounty manager research about the project which does proof the project not to be scam. Besides, if you check the patrol page of this forum which is used to check the newbies recent posts you'll that newbies are joining bounty like bots.



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October 15, 2020, 07:34:51 PM
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Therefore it's clearly mentioned in almost every bounty that the team and bounty manager has rights to make any kind of changes in bounty I wonder why some of us don't read this important point it's bounty participant's responsibility to read the rules properly so there won't be confusions at the end of bounty campaign.
You're right about this, many hunters don't read before joined campaign and this  has been one major problem with the sets. This issue has been outlined in the bounty campaign rules and should be digested while agreed with the rules. Though this is not the first time am seeing this happenings, some don't border to read rules before apply for a bounty campaign on the forum.

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October 16, 2020, 06:03:09 PM
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I agree that people need to pay more attention to bounties and stop jumping on everything that comes by. Its the only way you'll be able to sort through scams and real projects. Check whitepaper, website, team, manager background, partnership etc. Ask yourself whether you would personally invest in the project before joining their bounty. If the answer is no, then guess what? Time is money, so don't waste it.

Sometimes the project just didn't get successful at the end of the day and so that's still considered as a waste of time right?
A bounty hunter should always bear in mind the level of risks when joining bounty campaigns. If you wanna be careful of not landing into a scam manager but lazy in terms of checking the project's background, then better be patient and wait for the bounty projects that's being handled by the reputable managers in this community. Because these managers don't easily approves offer from a suspicious team.
That is not the part people talk about, we are talking about bounty hunters who jump into everything they can find, without vetting anything. Sure there are some good ones that end up paying, those are not the topics here neither, and the ones like you said who failed are not the ones we are talking about neither, all of those happens and usually it is out of your hand if they will succeed or fail if they are a legit place.

However what we are talking about here is that a ton of bounty hunters do not even read properly what is the project and they jump in for a chance to make a dollar, that is not how it should be, everyone should look into it very well and make sure that it looks legit before they could jump in if they do not carefully check it, they are not going to be happy about the results.
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Actually, it will never stop because 95% of all bounty hunters dont do adequate reaearch about the project they advertise and what they do is rely on the bounty manager research about the project which does proof the project not to be scam. Besides, if you check the patrol page of this forum which is used to check the newbies recent posts you'll that newbies are joining bounty like bots.


We don't need to express impossibility on bounty issue here. It is a big type because of the scam true, but it can stop if we keep being conscious of it. Although the bounty hunters don't do proper research on their own but if managers that are honest keep taking good project, then that is enough protection for hunters.
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October 21, 2020, 05:30:09 PM
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The best solution to be saved from participating in scam bounties is to ask a prepayment from the team  Grin But hunters should sign an agreement that obliges them to do tasks.

Or projects should transfer rewards to hunters address in advance, but unfreeze them manually for each hunter, after they check if hunters has done tasks.
Except for projects that are paid for in bitcoin in the Services section where campaigns are escrow and managed by reputable managers, most of the other bonuses are only paid when the campaign is completed. .
Besides bounty campaigns are usually paid for by the tokens themselves, it is difficult to request a down payment from projects.


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October 21, 2020, 05:35:27 PM
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So introductions to KYC in a bounty means the bounty manager is a scammer? There are few moves like this from some old bounties and it's the project team fault not the bounty manager, if the team decide to change rules there is nothing that the bounty manager can do about it, if you don't want to work for nothing you will have to comply
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October 21, 2020, 05:35:52 PM
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Yes, I saw this reality, even in my previous experience of promoting the project for more than 2-3 months and ended up earning $ 30. This is very sad and totally not worth the time spent promoting the project. I no longer trust well-known gift managers, or promote long-term projects. I prefer and look for real projects. especially with payments using BTC / ETH.

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October 21, 2020, 05:50:30 PM
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I've heard 30$ for a 6 weeks bounty campaign duration, not very encouraging right? But after that I joined another bounty which ends a success and I earned over 120$, the fact is every bounties aren't the same, you will get different results from every single one of them, if you want to be a bounty hunter be ready for the worst because you won't get paid some times

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October 21, 2020, 07:06:18 PM
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This is much reason why hunters should also do background check on the manager before joining the campaign. There are many managers here who are conscious of not getting their name tainted. They have strict rules that makes they less patronise by dev team that might end up scamming the community. A lot of known managers have also end up quiting bounty management to also join signature campaign services because they could not cope with evolving scam coming from the bounty they have managed
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