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Some bounty managers have been known to promote scam projects and I believe because they have users who rush to sign up, they keep being agents of scam project and not escrowing rewards.
More is that, the reasons bounty has been paying shit is because you rushing over it and they decide to list below, compare it with 2017 coins.

I believe some users are getting worried and fade up on lack of fulfilment of bounty promises at the end because the promises are not met as you either get scammed or the worth of your thousand units is = to a dollar ($1) at the end of many weeks.

When you work for months and dump total worth for $15 (rare case) if you get up to that, you have just paid for your data usage. What about your time? Inconveniences etc.

They take advantage of hunters that participated and not pay reward with different excuses which are :

1. KYC introduced while it was not started from beginning:
Know your customer is actually not necessary in a decentralized setting, all you need is to guide yourself or company because decentralized system should guarantee freedom. Why then introduce it at the end, to prevent participants from receiving their labour. I believe most times, this is to push out because if they are genuine, they should state it clearly from beginning that KYC is a necessary factor to receive reward. Example is bubbalex, his bounty has been one of the most sincere type I have read, from beginning to end is the way it is done. To
time for listing, times and dates for distribution.
All information about the growth of the project in different SM channels, medium, Twitter, telegram. No KYC introduced at the beginning and to the end.

2.The excuses of launch of website, app, main net, sales , soft cap are all reason you should understand you are wasting your time especially when you get shit pay.

What you can do if you like the project and you are not sure of  the promises

Save up to buy if you don't have money, you can wait for it when it is listed and dumped, you buy cheap.


If you have not checked this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230885.msg53975958#msg53975958

You are very right and the community should boycott such bounty managers but the problem is that now they create new id for a new project bounty with the name of the project to hide themselves so it is difficult to point out who is the manager.
Also i agree with you on the reward and i think there should be a minimum reward and that should be decent enough keeping in mind the time, the effort, the internet/data, electricity, the depreciation of devices used  by the hunters. So my personal estimation is that the reward amount should not be less than $200 per month of work.

Introduction of new rules after bounty campaign ends whether it is the requirement of the KYC or reward tokens lockup or payment in small installments or trying to intentionally delay reward distribution are highly condemnable acts from the campaign owners and managers and all these excuses should be compiled as a charge sheet against these project and campaign owners and community should shame them publically.

I think most people do avoid the campaigns run by people or managers who have promoted scam projects or campaigns in the past.
I have seen no or low participation in campaigns by such managers ending in failed campaigns and due to this reason i have seen such managers totally disappearing.
So i think community does take action and such managers do not get new work.

That's the main problem that faced by almost all of the bounty participants. Some hunters were not even watching the awareness about how to do a good analyzation before try to participating in the any bounty.
So many members in here have already made various awareness about this but they didn't care about that.

That means if you can't dictate them to follow your awareness and then let them decide what they have taken like participated in the scam bounties.
The problem is people lack of DYOR.

It doesn't help at all  if the promotion they have completed already and the money is already in thier hands. So whatever complain you throw to them they will not listen and even dt give them negative trust for that it will not change anything. It's hard to determine which campaign is good to join in early stage you will only see worse campaign when it's all ended. thats why many hunters doesn't want to be active again in promoting a project because of many shit things happen when the campaign is ended  .

yes, there are so many projects that sometimes we don't read who the manager is and what the track record is, because sometimes bounty hunters are only interested in the rewards offered. This cannot be denied, but you should start now to be more careful, besides Bubbalex, there is another bounty manager who I think is also a good thats called bounty detective.

The suggestion of waiting and buying the dump on the exchanges work only in bear market while as you have seen the current defi trend investors are rushing to buy the private and presales to make sure their hit the jackpot with 100x gains and the ones who miss presales have to buy expensive from exchanges with less chances of big profits.
As far as your concern of blacklisting scam campaign bounty manger i totally agree and i think it is high time that bounty managers become professional and they do complete due diligence and only after 100% satisfaction take a new project for promotional campaign.

There are some reasons behind their acceptance to promote projects, bounties.

- Requirements are too easy: low weekly post quota, low requirements on post quality, no restriction on burst-posting.
- Payment are promising high (in tokens or altcoins), not in bitcoin definitely. Scammers never run their bounties from their money, bitcoin. They run bounties and pay from their scam coins or tokens. Sometimes, if scammers are successful with their scam projects, price of coins/ tokens are high and can bring high payments for promoters but the high price won't last too long.
- They already have red tag, negative feedback so they don't care if they will get more by promoting scam projects.

I see few reasons.

First they are simply familiar with the bounty managers, and already know his bounty have easy rules. They see a familiar nickname, something triggers in their head and they join his bounty, partly join and giving this manager "a last chance".

Secondly no every bounty hunters checks his past bounties in telegram group. After bounty is finished, bounty hunter just sit and wait. Some ask in bounty telegram group "when distribution?" and after reading "soon" or "wait for announcement", forget about this bounty for few weeks and then everything repeats.

Thirdly - dont forget our beloved bots and account farms. They join everywhere automatically and without a research, creating and information hype around the bounty (making it popular).

This is the sad reality about working Bounty Campaigns nowadays, All of you mentioned are happening in the background some Bounty Managers are not even honest in the very beginning of the campaign by adding some requirements after the campaign was done, The Bounty Campaigns in this forum are the cheapest form of marketing strategy, especially in Altcoins Section which is paying only worthless project tokens, that has no guaranteed value after the distribution which is taking 6 months to 1 year. In other points some Bounty Hunters are also unreasonable by calling Bounty Campaign as FREE MONEY I think thats not appropriate because when you promoting any Bounty Campaigns you need an Internet connection and the Internet Connection is not FREE, plus your effort and time that was spent including the sleepness nights while promoting Bounty Campaigns thats why its not a FREE MONEY.

#2 is quite common reasons these days as an announcement. Either it is done in a Telegram channel or here in the forum.
This is why I don't do them before.
The 3 month work you made could just be destroyed in just a blink of an eye by a single announcement and there's not even a dang thing that you can do about it even if you make a Scam Accusation because they pretty much just did their exit scam as well.

I guess if you didn't aware about the the team has already put the rules if they can change the rules anytime as they want. this makes the hunters have no power as they can decide what they wanna try to do for the next step.

Remember the team is a party who has created the rules.

in this case the problem should be there were even hunters who were still lack of educations about how to choose the right one and try to avoid the scam bounties.

If you are sure of the project, then by all means promote it, because it will also likely pay you as promised and the payment will be worth it especially if kept for a long while. If you are not sure of the project, don't promote it and don't buy. The problem with bounty hunters is that they are not sure of the project they are promoting and they are also not interested of the project. They just promote for the sake of the payment.

I do not agree with that. Why should the bounty manager be punished? He's just doing a job and is a service provider. As long as he gets the bounties, holds them well and then distributes them properly to the participants, he is doing a good job. It can and should not be his job to check whether this is a scam project or not. Often it is also not immediately obvious if a service is legit or not. In my opinion it is rather the responsibility of the users who participate in the bounty campaign. In the end they are the ones who advertise the service and make others aware of it.

The big rewards offered are always the most telling attraction to lure bounty hunters to participate in the projects they are running, some bounty hunters forget to track down who is the manager, and how the track record is.  usually the ones who always fall into a trap like this are the participants who just joined Crypyo.  I used to get a scam project, at first it looks normal, but after the project ended, I don't get any pay for my work.

Although things can work out for this bounty manager who just do his job and get paid in BTC or ETH. He should have the decency to at least check whether the project is a potential scam or not. Not helping them to scam people and waste the time of bounty hunters I guess will help the crypto market in general than alllowing the investors money go in the nads of the bad actors in crypto.

Also bounty hunters could really help if they see the project is a potential scam like having fake teams an plagaiarized whitepaper, take time to warn others and move to another campaign. Bitcointalk and crypto space as a whole will be a beter place without scams.

Honestly if they pick a good bounty manager that would basically be the only thing you need, bounty managers are good enough and smart enough to know that they should get a portion of up front so that people wouldn't work for free and they can distribute early and when it is distributed they will ask for more and if denied they will stop and warn everyone. That is how proper bounty managers work, I know few of them and they worked with few scam places and they warned people the moment they realized and they said the worst was working one week without pay and not more.

So, instead of picking projects, go pick bounty managers and check who they work for, if they work for someone proper that would be all you need honestly and you wouldn't really worry about anything else.

I don't think all projects are good or you compare it wrongly when in 2017, at that time the price of all coins was forced to go up because BTC went through an extreme increase so no matter the project is good or not they will go up too.
and actually to see whether a project is good or not when the market is stable.

No wonder, if someone expects fast money or big rewards in a bounty program, I mean always rushing to join high reward projects, including not researching the developer's background in managing previous projects, the products they offer in the market and many again the reason related to this. Yes, the famous manager like bounty detective is pretty good, I was involved in the Hacken.ai project which he managed.

I quite agree with OP, this should be the first duty for a bounty hunter to choose a reputed manager. That's how you can save your time. I have seen few bounty managers who have been promoting multiple scam projects and eventually hunters got nothing to except a waste of time. I have remembered we have punished such managers previously. But lately, we haven't seen many accusations against bounty managers. Perhaps hunters become tired or they don't care if a project turns into a scam.

Also, a hunter is the same responsible if a project turns into a scam. Because before choosing a project hunters should do their own diligence. So we can prevent at least some scam projects. All the peoples aren't the same intelligent on the forum. If all hunters spend their time researching projects, then I believe someone would detect if something wrong there. Hunters spreading words about projects and investors notice a project from hunters advertisements. So hunters can't just simply skip since investors following them and lost fund.

So if hunters and managers do their own diligence before taking a project then we can reduce scams although it wouldn't possible to prevent 100%.

Because they believe they will get paid. Little do they know they are going to be scammed (they aren't scammed directly. They do get paid, but the amount they receive is just worth nothing). They still think that they can make the same amount of profit like some were able to do three years ago. They spend a lots of months promoting them. In the end the result is them receiving nothing worth the time they spent behind those bounty program and all they did was promote a scam project!
We can stop them from "rushing". There is no way we can control dimwits.

Because they don't have any other choice for now. 8)

Any reputed manager still looking to promote a shit coin project? I don't think so that is why newbie accounts or random high ranked account started to promote projects with less knowledge about analysis so at the end both get fucked up and investors lose their money to fake and shit projects.

Well, when you spent 2 months by promoting some campaign and they at the end changed their rules, would you give up everything just because they changed rules? No! You will do as much as possible to see your desired reward!  :)

Unfortunately many hunters are too desperate some of them even almost appear like they are beggers ^{sorry to say} but the truth, hunters are the reason why project team treating hunters as irrelevant once the bounty campaign is over, despite the unusual rules from some project, many people will rush in without reading or carrying.

Majorities of these hunters are newbies who accept whatever was thrown to them hook, line and sinker, some of them enters as many bounty campaigns as possible especially social media campaign irrespective of whether they are going to get paid or not thus look like being treated like beggars as you rightly said 'a beggar has no choice' who will caution them against promoting scam bounty campaigns? of course nobody their projection is that participating in like 50 campaigns perhaps they might get half paid while the rest might be scams they wouldn't bother.

The last project of bubbalex is DIA, which campaign already broke one promise "first distribution". The first distribution has already been postponed for 2 weeks, let's see the next date. As op said KYC problem, the popular manager bountydetective campaign is a "Clipx" bounty. Clipx bounty didn't mention KYC but now they need the KYC process. Even the "injection protocol" campaign is doing several processes to reject more hunters.

Basically, if I were to be among the hunters on the bounty I will quit the promotion with immediate effects. There should be a trust between the project team and the manager, also, there should equally be an iota of truth from the bounty managers to bounty hunters. Some of the bounties they extend their promotion sometimes end in scam, waiting for desire rewards while others trapped your reward is meaningless in my opinion.

They will keep coming in like moths to a flame just like people keep sending money to ponzis even when they know what they are.

As long as boyntry hunters will keep promoting scammers these scammers will continue to exploit others.

Bubbalex is a good manager but had not gone to take the role of escrow in bounty management, I think if he had the token with him he will distribute in due time but How does he handle the terrible transaction fee in the market now, some manager face this problem now. Bubbalex do not request for KYC but the way I see him he could demand for it if the team request. Injective protocol is over, Eth and USDT were given as reward and they team had poor management in reward distribution.

You can't blame bounty hunters when it comes to rushing things. They are expecting their rewards and bounty hunters know that they deserve to be paid and sell it on time because of their own reasons. Maybe rushing into things will really make their payment as shit but the project itself should be the one to make a move if they really want to increase the value of their coin or product.

Other bounty hunters wouldn't care for this. As long as that they are hoping that there's something that's waiting for them for projects that they join, they will continue to join even if they know the reputation of the bounty manager.

No matter how good or bad the reputation, they will come and join. It's because if they see the project that can potential make them money, they will join so that's no reason for them. If the efforts are worthless, they wouldn't mind as long as they have tried.

at least, by reading and analyzing the project in depth can reduce losses.
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1) a responsible bounty manager will definitely carry out an in-depth analysis of the project that will be handled, 2) a trusted bounty manager will definitely try to make rules that can prevent potential fraud, both manipulation by bounty hunters, and project owners. with the right strategy, everyone will benefit, 3) we all have to know that being a bounty hunter is also risky, our hard work in supporting the project can not be appreciated at all, either because of a scam or irresponsible management. thus we will be more energetic when our expectations are not as expected. And remember, the manager's bounty is not the main guarantee that the project "will" be a success, there are many factors that influence it, so dwyor.

Almost all of hunters know that but remember so many times hunters have been complaining or try to boycott the campaign but the final decision will be on the team as the team itself is a party who was holding the payment. The different situation can happen when the funds have already escrowed by in fact we rarely seen the campaign that escrowed the payments before.

I think that most bounty hunters have already accepted those risk as being "part of the game", so usually they dont get overly disappointing or upset when it happens. But this cannot be avoided completely, even if all bounty managers implement the escrow system, you can still receive worthless tokens or even the fake ones as the team behind the project can create multiple tokens with different contracts.

Sometimes even the project managed by reputed manager had issues with paying the rewards and even many of them didn't have any value when token got distributed to bounty participants but still people are okay to accept any of their terms and start promoting the bounties without any knowledge about that project.

Some bounty participants like the project but don't have the money to invest, so instead of investing their money, they will invest their time in participating bounty campaign.

I think some of them aware of what is the risk of joining. And some of them just joining and hoping their time will be paid off.

those participants in the bounty campaign will only provide full support for the project provided, while for investment sometimes there are several bounty participants who invest in the project depending on whether the project has good development or not, because usually only good projects get such supporters.

Bounty is usually something free, I know that you may not get paid and that is still scam because your efforts do have a cost and that is why you should be paid, but in reality since you do not spend any money on it, people rush to it. There are too many people in the world that doesn't get a lot of money, few dollars is few dollars for them and they will do anything to make that income, I wouldn't bother with it for few bucks but they do and that is why they are quite easy to get scammed this way as well.

If they had to spend money on it, you will see that they will stop rushing, but since it is free and only requires effort they find their efforts to be something to risk and when they risk their efforts sometimes they get paid but sometimes they get scammed, as long as they do not get scammed out of money, they are fine with it.

The wholesome truth is that most bounty manager end up getting scammed just like the bounty hunters and they are as vulnerable as everyone else. The fact that one is a senior member and bounty manager does not make him immune to deceptions. It feels really bad for the bounty managers because it seems like they laid so many persons to be slaughtered.

Once the bounty system cleans up then higher quality projects will be able to shine.

I think bounty hunters should avoid promoting scam projects .One should make research on a project before deciding to promote it  even though sometimes it is difficult to identify all the scam projects.It is just important to investigate no matter how little before participating in any bounty.

It does not mean that once a project is managed by a reputable manager, the project will always end up successful. Sometimes, bounty managers are just making their tasks because they are just being paid but when the project turns into a scam one once the project ends, it is already the team behind the project that should be blame and not the bounty manager alone. Same with those bounty hunters, they will surely render their services and keeps promoting the project not knowing what will be the future of the said project.

Recently, a manager rejected my article.  Although everything was done according to the rules.  I read other articles he accepted and saw that some of them are worse than mine.  One gets the impression that only the articles of their people were accepted.  There was a vague explanation to my question, and in the end I did not understand why my article was not accepted.  I decided not to contact such managers anymore and to choose projects only from honest managers.

Nah, I don't think they will make a research first before jumping in simply because it takes time to do so. Of course, every bounty hunters want to be first in the line thus they are joining suddenly as soon as the opportunity opened. And when things get f*cked up, boom! Instant regrets.

I feel sorry for your experience but at least you already learned a lesson there. That is more important than anything else. So next time, don't be hasty. If you find the manager not trustworthy then don't apply, lots of time and effort will be saved by doing so ;).

The solution is simple - promote bounties only that are managed by reputed manager or a team member. But you should have a strong believe in if. Otherwise dont spend time on them.

Scam projects are like real nowadays, as you've said its hard to identify it because it seems legit and you wont even think its a scam.

But I agree we need to do a research before promoting the project, verify their legitimacy and only follow a trusted bounty manager. It is one of an indication that the project is legit since reputed bounty manager wont risk his reputation for a scam project.

That's just the last solution which is very simple and has been widely used by everyone in this forum, but for now it is very difficult to find bounties that are managed by the best managers and by the project team itself, even if there are only a few, and because of this. making bounty participants must always analyze and make research repeatedly to find out that the bounty is really good, because the best managers can also be fooled by smart project teams.

Yeah, that's why we should not join the campaign that doesn't provide escrowed payment for the participants.
I think the most important thing we should know before join the campaign is that we know we will be paid.
otherwise, we will just wasting time if join campaign then it turning to a scam project later.

For this situation, my advice for hunters, check Ann thread, white paper and partnership. Some managers are very unique, you shouldn't wait to join. In other campaigns you can wait and check very deeply some week. Some legit projects can scam in different ways, like payaccept campaign, injective protocol. Some projects didn't make pin post this important news.

This is sadly true and the KYC angle is the killer for me. I have refused going through the processes of submitting KYC documents for several bounties I slaved for because of this. The AMZ project team had to remove my 3771 or so tokens which were initially sent to my account on their site because I refused to give up my personal data. That happened to all hunters who didn't process the KYC requirement with them. I don't know if the project later got listed on any exchange or not after that. I also reported ClipX steals KYC data and shuts down (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276354.0). That was a project that ran away with investors money and hunters' personal data. Really, it's a sad outing for bounty hunters who submit KYC for mere paltry rewards for which they aren't even sure it will be worth more than a dollar at the end. Hunters should stop rushing into bounties like their lives depend on them because most of these bounties eventually end up worthless.

There are so many shitty bounties nowadays and the reason why this type of bounty still exist is due to the participants encouraging it by promoting their project.
I am not shocked by this since there seems to be more people who got interested in crypto back in 2017 when bounties was paying good.
And those people seems to only join any bounty that they could without even looking for details about the project.

Yes, what you say is good because it is for the sake of not detrimental to the time of bounty hunters, but I see that there are not many bounty campaigns that implement that including the bounty campaign that you participate in.

I think circumstances differ, and there are most times clear indications or intents. Every Bounty manager most times do not have access to token theirself.

So if you find yourself a transparent Bounty manager, that keeps you updated every moment, even if a project ends of failing to pay, you note that it wasn't the bm fault.

Example can be Digitalbits bm, or perhaps arteezy, who has ups and downs in Bounty management

Yes, the solution is very simple indeed, there are only two things that are very different in this case, first to find out the famous manager will obviously be very easy, but to find out the original project team is still very difficult because remembering the scammers who are still very clever at tricking their data that could seem like a real team.

I agree with OP. There are some managers who intend to scam, so they bring a scam project in bitcointalk in various ways and promote it with bounty hunters. And bounty hunters help those scam projects with free big promotions. So I think bounty hunters also have some responsibility to research whether the project is good or bad before joining bounty. Scam projects managers will always look for your weaknesses, add new rules and try to cut your payment.

That's why the most important thing for bounty hunters is to choose reputed managers. I have seen that reputed managers do not launch much bounty because they launch a bounty after a lot of research, as a result all the bounty launches are solid projects. I think now is the time for bounty hunters to use their time wisely.

Lots of bounty hunters are just blindly joining hoping for luck to come out and bring them huge rewards, most probably the scam developers gained attentions since promoters are willing to participate even there's no assurance of possible rewards.


Indeed, and they are all thinking the same, hoping for the one that will bring them an easy catch.


Sad true, there are just jumping in without doing any research, just join and hope for luck and not the real development.

There are a fine lines between scam manager, a manager that promotes scam or a manager that was tagged by community for promoting scam.

We all know reputed bounty manager bubbalex. Almost all of projects, that run bounty campaign under his management are successful. His last bounty - DIA. Great project. Its token value price increased multiple times and everything was great until KuCoin hack. DIA tokens happened to be among stolen funds. Because of that, team postponed first batch of bounty distribution. Then, while KuCoin were investigating the hack (I think this was the reason), DIA postponed distribution for few more days. Yesterday was the day of distribution and nothing happened. Some bounty hunters started to blame bubbalex for not distributing reward, stealing rewards, not receiving tokens when price was high and etc. Some were going to create scam accusation topics here against DIA and bubbalex. Luckely tokens were sent today.

Is bubbalex a scam manager ? In someone's eyes yes, because he was not able to give them what they expected. For other (and for me) - an excellent manager. Everything is individual. So mentioning someone as a scam manager wont really help others.

Another example Sylon. Many participated in bounties under his management in 2017-2018 and got profitable rewards. I've participated in 2 of his campaigns and got nothing. Because projects turned scam and he gave me 0 stakes because I've promoted many other bounties.

I think some of the bounty participants are not aware of the past history of the manager running the bounty that they just join. They get right away attracted by the amount of rewards promised by the campaign not checking if indeed they will receive stakes from they hard work later on. There should be a way these managers will be tag as scammers also.

for bounty hunters it is good to check the bounty to be promoted, if you feel there is an obstacle or there are things that contain an element of fraud such as very expensive coin prices, giving large amounts of prizes, and poor project websites also the possibility that the project is a scam.

I agree with some of the points that you have said above, especially related to KYC. if the project is valid then there is no need to change the rules for doing KYC at the end of the project. , if the project is honest then say it at the beginning when the project is just launched. for managers like Bubbalex he is very kind, honest, thorough and precise in project token payments.

And how to determine that a bounty manager is a fraud. I think that knowing this for sure, no one will work with such a project and such a manager. And you can only determine by taking part in the project.

Right now it's hard to determine if the project is fraud if you will  only base on who's manager manage the campaign . There are many newly created account right now that are managing a bounty if you visit bounties altcoin more of them only use newbie because they know that there is a risk if they will use high ranked account and theybcan also be tagged if someone think you are promoting fraud campaign.

Some projects look very interesting and even large investors are dying in them.  In fact, at the end of the ICO, the price of the token is zero.  I think that bounty managers also trust the project team.  you yourself need to be able to distinguish a scam from a normal project.

Of course I completely agree with the OP. We promoters should not promote all coins taht are here but we should do a round of checking and make sure they aren't obvious scams.

Well i had a lot experiences about fraud project. But for now i join a bounty project based on the bounty manager. I trust on some bounty managers because they already proof that his projects is legit. Dont follow hype project or high reward project.

Change of rules have been the practice with many bounties. The funny aspect is, they like to include the clause that they have the right to change it in the thread. This is not a good practice. With such clause, I feel is intentional of the team.

I've heard it also a lot of users get scammed by projects in bounty campaign but we can't stop the bounty hunters since it's one of the best way to earn free doing bounty works so they risking their time and efforts in chances of finding a good project even though they know majority of them is scam.

Bounty managers have an obligation to ensure that they carry out due diligence before presenting a project to their community for promotion. Even when series of due diligence are carried out, it's still possible to end up promoting a scam project. So my advice is to consider the amount of scam projects which a bounty manager has promoted before deciding whether to boycott his bounties. We need to understand that the space is quite risky and it may be impossible to always make the right moves when it comes to security.

I just learned this before that it isn't their full responsibility to find legitimate projects to manage at. That's why I mostly avoid long time ago those BMs that are fully affiliated with the project.
Bounty managers only have the most power from that to stop the bounty, but from the start of the bounty, they aren't the responsible for a scam bounty unless that said project is visibly scam in the naked eye like it was reported multiple times already.

even though using the data that has been provided in the forum that you mentioned, I don't think I can guarantee payment to the bounty campaign participants so in my opinion you have to stay alert when you want to participate in any bounty campaign, it's better if you can see the manager first and consider all the equipment so that it can give confidence that the campaign bounty will be given to the campaign participants.

Before we decide to promote the project and join the campaign, we must verify the campaign manager first.
Trusted manager will be good because they usually deliver what they promised and we should not join the campaign who managed by untrusted manager.
Joining in a campaign that manages by unreliable manager will waste our time only, or even lost our data due KYC requirement.

Thhe problem is some bounty hunters are not careful when choosing a project to join. As long as the rewards are good enough then they will promote the project regardless if its a scam or not.

A reputed manager is one of the indication of a good bounty so choose only reputed managers to avoid scam. Of course its not a 100% guarantee but somehow you can lessen the chance of joining in scam.

You cant stop people from joining these campaigns. They are desperate in need of money and thats why they can not make a precise decision. Most of them still think that we are living in 2017 whereas you can make money easily with bitcoin or any other scam project. Its quite painful mentioning those old days.

BItcointalk is likely a place where people can do whatever they are capable of in order to earn money. If you have talent, surely making money is no as hard as other people say. But joining blindly to any campaign can not give you the amount of money you deserve. Try to be more flexible and creative on this forum. I have stayed away from alt bounty campaign for many years

When will this BS stops?why always Bounty hunters are there to be blamed?

Are you serious that the team will listen to bounty Hunters even if they shout 24/7 a day about Listing of the send project?
That is a Joke and besides when the bounty campaign starts,the manager and the team deals to promise the Hunters to be paid month after the campaign but mostly ends up to 6 months to 1 year of waiting and sometimes it took longer than 1 year.

If the project is scam,then from the beginning the plan is to scam people.

You are absolutely right, what I feared about bounty rules is that the rules can be changed at any time, this is what gives many bounty managers the right to ask for KYC even when the bounty thread says NO KYC, they are simply abusing the rules tbh

The only thing we can do is follow bounty managers that takes their reputation very serious, like bubbalex who doesn't joke with his fellow bounty hunters and he makes sure they get paid as promised, find good bounty managers and wait to they introduce new campaigns

It's pretty hard to find scammed bounty project or a manager also no one will intent to work for a scam project, investing in bounties is always depend on us like we need to research about the project and it's specifications. We can't blame a bounty manager for a scammed project because even he works like us.

We can't stop such people's because this forum is very independent and gives opportunities to everyone. Before investing always keep In mind that we are taking risk.

Therefore it's clearly mentioned in almost every bounty that the team and bounty manager has rights to make any kind of changes in bounty I wonder why some of us don't read this important point it's bounty participant's responsibility to read the rules properly so there won't be confusions at the end of bounty campaign.

You are certainly right. Recently, there are a lot of fraudulent bounty companies and many participants are left without payment. But the problem of bounty participants is much deeper than just participation in a fraudulent project. The fact is that at the initial stage it is very difficult to understand whether this project is fraudulent or not until you take part in it. This is called risk. When an investor invests his funds in a particular cryptocurrency and loses his funds, he is not accused of taking part in a deliberately fraudulent project, but simply sympathizes. So why, then, are the participants in the bounty companies accused? Moreover, the project does not say that it is fraudulent, which means that there is no evidence yet, you can take part in any project. Personally, I try to focus on my knowledge, and this forum also helps me a lot in identifying fraudulent companies, for which thanks to everyone who takes part in catching scammers.

I've seen Bounty Managers paying from their own pocket to keep their reputation strong in the forum. Bounty Managers have their own way of analysing the potential and the team behind the project. Something happens in between, and the same makes the project turn to be a scam. This is where Bounty Managers suffer and gets bad image. Maybe there are people who does it with intention, but most trusted Bounty Managers won't get into such scam approaches.

I love how BountyDetective decided to restore its reputation on the forum among bounty hunters by launching bounties for those who had not previously received payment for their work: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281562.0 As a reward for your work BountyDetective offers $ 5,000 worth of BNB, which they indicate is guaranteed to be paid to members.

Yes, and some of the participants who are not observant in reading the rules are those who still know very little about bounties or bounty rules in general, but for those who have worked in bounties for a long time, of course they always pay attention to this important point so that they don't get it wrong.

Sometimes you can't know if a bounty manager is promoting a scam project even if you do research until it's time to pay bounty hunters, few bounty projects are very good but the main problem is the bounty manager, it's better to create room and do research on bounty managers with high reputations on this forum like Hhampuz, wapinter, arteezy and bubbalex

I agree that people need to pay more attention to bounties and stop jumping on everything that comes by. Its the only way you'll be able to sort through scams and real projects. Check whitepaper, website, team, manager background, partnership etc. Ask yourself whether you would personally invest in the project before joining their bounty. If the answer is no, then guess what? Time is money, so don't waste it.

The best solution to be saved from participating in scam bounties is to ask a prepayment from the team  ;D But hunters should sign an agreement that obliges them to do tasks.

Or projects should transfer rewards to hunters address in advance, but unfreeze them manually for each hunter, after they check if hunters has done tasks.

Sometimes the project just didn't get successful at the end of the day and so that's still considered as a waste of time right?
A bounty hunter should always bear in mind the level of risks when joining bounty campaigns. If you wanna be careful of not landing into a scam manager but lazy in terms of checking the project's background, then better be patient and wait for the bounty projects that's being handled by the reputable managers in this community. Because these managers don't easily approves offer from a suspicious team.

no one could guarantee hunters will do their job correctly although sign agreement. this is online and remote job which is no one need to meet and sign agreement, and ofcourse there is no developer team will pay hunter before they finished all task. in bounty campaign history there is no model like this, the fair one only using trusted escrow so no one will harmed about bounty reward.

I would like to add that not only scam bounty projects can waste your time. Ive experienced once in a seemingly legit project to be kicked out of the project itself for their shit security. Some a-hole copied my wallet and posted it as theirs, even tho i havent missed a single task ive been kicked out for having double accounts, which i dont. Its just sht security that threw my hardwork to the dumps.

I do get confused and hesitate to join even a good project campaign by a bounty manager who ran a bounty campaign previously that did not pay bounty hunters or making excuses even after months. So reward distribution is like the most important part or step of a bounty campaign and bounty manager should be responsible for it.

OP is right and I also noticed that mostly newbie bounty hunters don't know where to join they are just joining all the campaigns they can join without checking any background of a project and the bounty manager and actually I have a good suggestion it must be better if newbies will be restricted on bounty section and only allow Jr member and up will be allowed In this way those new members who joins random bounty will be reduced they must spend more months first or rank up to Jr member to be able to join in bounty.

It's an act of cheating if a bounty project ask for KYC all of a sudden after they announced that their bounty don't need KYC, the reason why they get away with this easily is the rules that always says that it can be changed at any time, some bounty managers are intentionally using this rules to get away with unfairness behaving over Bounty Hunters

Actually, it will never stop because 95% of all bounty hunters dont do adequate reaearch about the project they advertise and what they do is rely on the bounty manager research about the project which does proof the project not to be scam. Besides, if you check the patrol page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent;patrol) of this forum which is used to check the newbies recent posts you'll that newbies are joining bounty like bots.

You're right about this, many hunters don't read before joined campaign and this  has been one major problem with the sets. This issue has been outlined in the bounty campaign rules and should be digested while agreed with the rules. Though this is not the first time am seeing this happenings, some don't border to read rules before apply for a bounty campaign on the forum.

That is not the part people talk about, we are talking about bounty hunters who jump into everything they can find, without vetting anything. Sure there are some good ones that end up paying, those are not the topics here neither, and the ones like you said who failed are not the ones we are talking about neither, all of those happens and usually it is out of your hand if they will succeed or fail if they are a legit place.

However what we are talking about here is that a ton of bounty hunters do not even read properly what is the project and they jump in for a chance to make a dollar, that is not how it should be, everyone should look into it very well and make sure that it looks legit before they could jump in if they do not carefully check it, they are not going to be happy about the results.

We don't need to express impossibility on bounty issue here. It is a big type because of the scam true, but it can stop if we keep being conscious of it. Although the bounty hunters don't do proper research on their own but if managers that are honest keep taking good project, then that is enough protection for hunters.

Except for projects that are paid for in bitcoin in the Services section where campaigns are escrow and managed by reputable managers, most of the other bonuses are only paid when the campaign is completed. .
Besides bounty campaigns are usually paid for by the tokens themselves, it is difficult to request a down payment from projects.

So introductions to KYC in a bounty means the bounty manager is a scammer? There are few moves like this from some old bounties and it's the project team fault not the bounty manager, if the team decide to change rules there is nothing that the bounty manager can do about it, if you don't want to work for nothing you will have to comply

Yes, I saw this reality, even in my previous experience of promoting the project for more than 2-3 months and ended up earning $ 30. This is very sad and totally not worth the time spent promoting the project. I no longer trust well-known gift managers, or promote long-term projects. I prefer and look for real projects. especially with payments using BTC / ETH.

I've heard 30$ for a 6 weeks bounty campaign duration, not very encouraging right? But after that I joined another bounty which ends a success and I earned over 120$, the fact is every bounties aren't the same, you will get different results from every single one of them, if you want to be a bounty hunter be ready for the worst because you won't get paid some times

This is much reason why hunters should also do background check on the manager before joining the campaign. There are many managers here who are conscious of not getting their name tainted. They have strict rules that makes they less patronise by dev team that might end up scamming the community. A lot of known managers have also end up quiting bounty management to also join signature campaign services because they could not cope with evolving scam coming from the bounty they have managed

Unfortunately, bounty hunter doesn't have an employment agreement or anything like that when he joins the campaign. In other words, it is not protected in any way and will not be able to do anything if the project representatives behave inappropriately. I don't even know what to come up with to protect us. Can someone have any ideas about this?

As said by the OP the KYC is decided by the team and not the bounty managers . It's on the users to decide if they want to participate in bounty if it's needing Kyc. Also the project should be clear about the Kyc requirements from the beginning.

When I see a bounty, the first thing I check is the manager username and rank, this will make my personal research easier about the project.
There are many things one should consider when doing Bounty for any project, it includes :

• The team is very important and their previous role in blockchain/CryptoCurrency.
• The Whitepaper ( This is very important )
• The website and their social channels ( some launch their channels as soon as they plan public and private sales which is red flag for me.
• The road map and exchange listing, I don't want to work and end up with a token or coin I wouldn't be able to sell.

I also think of the same thing why does some hunters rush on joining bounty when their previous bounty ended they should choose carefully or wait for a deserving bounty to promote.
I feel like some of them doesn't really care and just want to join any bounty that they could and try their luck on it.

If we are discuss the reason why people rush to promote scam bounty we cant exclude the expression of impossibility in bounty so that naive bounty hunter will be aware of their mistakes.

Conscious? Check the patrol link i posted and youll see that most bounty participants are not conscious just a little.

You can put all the job on bounty managers cause they are also a victim of scam project at some point.

Of course I agree with being patient and not to rush into any new bounty campaign as soon as the last one ends. But sometimes you can never avoid getting scammed if the project doesn't want to pay the hunters from the very start.

In fact, that if the KYC implementation will always be decided by the team at the end of the campaign. I can only mention some bounty that's fair to mention the KYC verification when it was getting started like radix.

So many bounties have decided this at the end of the campaign. The bounty manager must also ask this since it was getting started or try to make sure if there will be a high chance for the KYC to be implemented to the participants or it will become mandatory for the participants to complete the verification.

Well, I don't know if a day like this will ever come when bounty hunters will stop promoting scam projects,nowadays its hard to know which bounty manager can be trusted, because the scam bounty managers normally open new BTT accounts for every new scam bounty, so its hard to tell which one is gonna pay,but I believe if every bounty hunter do a good research about bounty project before joining, I bet that the rate of scam bounties will definitely decrease.

I believe that what anyone can do if they like a particular project and they aren't sure of the project's success is to invest on what they can afford to lose, there is no guarantee that the coin will surge, it's not about buying cheap, it's about the quality of the project and the team behind it, but to say the truth it's safer to promote the project if bounty campaign is available, you aren't investing money but only your time.

in some case it is the Hunters mistakes why they are becoming a victim of scam projects,Look at them being  hunter for long years now yet still putting their KYC and filling the form.
and also i know some of them already knew the risk but that is what it is since they use bounties as bread and butter.
also some of them has multiple account in which on going in other bounties so even if they lose in one the others will give them profit.
so basically the Thread is good but lets face it,sometimes hunters accepted being victimized even before they joined lol.

Some bounty managers have not properly contracted the agreement and that is why some come in the middle to ulter agreement. But KYC is not needed for bounty to be proven as genuine. Bubbalex in his bounty has not requested for KYC but email verification and rewards is released with ease, that is the way his is done.