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October 02, 2020, 06:01:28 AM
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How much cars he sold? Are his cars really good? He is smart guy but his projects are too optimistic.
Let's talk about the cyber truck, already more than 500K units were pre ordered and the expected launch will be in 2021.As far as they claim they are better car - semi truck and the cheapest in this category.It was already made so it is going to be launched for sure.
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October 03, 2020, 02:34:22 AM
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If you watch their latest presentation for shareholders you'll see that they just developed a new battery, which is changing everything. It is better than what they use, cheaper and lasts longer.

A large part of the price of electric cars are the batteries, so any reduction in cost of these batteries reduce the costs for electric vehicles. Also these better batteries are going to complement electric grids worldwide. Soon all those expensive peak fossil fuel plants will be replaced by battery banks everywhere. Solar/renewable are also getting a boost from these batteries, which use less space and can "deep" cycle as seen in the cars.

This new battery uses a new form factor invented by them, But the inside of it made for further improvements:



In short:

   
  • 14% improvement in cost/kWh coming from the change in cell form factor.
  • 18% improvement in cost/kWh as a result of the 10× manufacturing footprint reduction and 10× manufacturing energy consumption reduction. The new dry manufacturing process enables pressing the active battery powder material directly into a film. The new manufacturing process is based on Maxwell Technologies’ proprietary “proof of concept” process. Process is not at production scale yet, but there is a “clear path” to large scale production.
  • 5% improvement in cost/kWh coming from the increase utilization of silicon in the battery cells.
  • 12% reduction in cost/kWh coming from improvements in the cathode material.
  • 7% improvement in battery pack cost per kWh as a result of Tesla’s new integrated vehicle design. Tesla redesigned its vehicles using new front and rear castings that integrate with the battery pack. To accomplish this, Tesla developed a completely new alloy to enable casting of some of the largest components in the automotive space. These bolt directly into a new “structural battery,” eliminating the need for redundant, parallel elements in Teslas.

This not "the future", this is already here. They are manufacturing those.

Also, in this presentation they mentioned that during the pandemic, all other motor companies had loses, but not Tesla. But this is no just a "car" company anymore, do not underestimate these batteries.

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October 03, 2020, 02:42:14 AM
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Tesla and Musk will be trigger of the next financial crisis.
Tesla is more volatile even bitcoin. Musk haven't given positive reports for investors anytime for its history.
But people bringing their money to that company trusting that Tesla is the future. They are wrong!
How Tesla can be such expensive company? They haven't produced any high-quality products, they are not Mercedes or BMW.
This bubble will blow soon.
What am I reading? Tesla is far better compared to the BMW or Mercedes in terms of safety and the cost wise.

Tesla is one of the company is in profit even after the financial crisis we met due tpopandemic and he is one of the top 10 rich individuals due to his company.

Company is not in profit, company haven't seen profit from the time when it was established. Teslas shares are in profit and it is result of huge amount printed money by US. Don't look to Teslas prices its fake and soon it will be ended.
Musk is one of the richest people in the world but why?
I can tell you. Because a lot of people are investing their money in to his projects and they are unprofitable. Musk inflates biggest bubble.
How much cars he sold? Are his cars really good? He is smart guy but his projects are too optimistic.

my partner owes one it is nice. I will get back to you on durability of it.

he has it for 18-20 months.

I would own one if I could afford one.

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October 03, 2020, 05:05:11 PM
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my partner owes one it is nice. I will get back to you on durability of it.

he has it for 18-20 months.

I would own one if I could afford one.

You can probably get an used model S without fancy self driving features for a decent price. Otherwise look at the model 3.

Since you already use solar for mining, you should also install panels/wind in your home, and a powerwall or two... Then later get a tesla car as well. They say people with powerwalls will be able to sell back to the grid at peak hours, think of it as a sort of "mining" (you could even eventually phase out the asic miners for these).

Ideally you would get a new model of powerwall with the newer battery (type 4680). You can even start without any solar, just charge it when its cheap and sell it when its peak hour. I read somewhere they are devising or already have some sort of blockchain related software for this they are trialing in New Zealand or Australia forgot where.

So if you cannot afford the car yet, get a powerwall... Its like a big UPS with better batteries, and much faster response. It can take serious loads too (see cars: powerwall on wheels).

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October 05, 2020, 02:11:04 PM
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You can probably get an used model S without fancy self driving features for a decent price. Otherwise look at the model 3.

Since you already use solar for mining, you should also install panels/wind in your home, and a powerwall or two... Then later get a tesla car as well. They say people with powerwalls will be able to sell back to the grid at peak hours, think of it as a sort of "mining" (you could even eventually phase out the asic miners for these).

Ideally you would get a new model of powerwall with the newer battery (type 4680). You can even start without any solar, just charge it when its cheap and sell it when its peak hour. I read somewhere they are devising or already have some sort of blockchain related software for this they are trialing in New Zealand or Australia forgot where.

So if you cannot afford the car yet, get a powerwall... Its like a big UPS with better batteries, and much faster response. It can take serious loads too (see cars: powerwall on wheels).

I agree, electric cars are the future. And Tesla is the leading producer of electric cars. We all know how important the company is, otherwise the stock price wouldn't be so high. Using electric cars with solar panels at home and charging your car for free at home is the best we can do for the environment. Just look at China they opened now the second biggest solar farm in the world. We must all work together and use renewable resources as energy sources. My next car is definitely going to be an electric car.

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October 10, 2020, 08:34:33 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm7l3YxEF8g

The Past, Present, and Future of EV's


Good overview and analysis of Tesla and EV markets.


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October 11, 2020, 07:43:04 AM
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I agree, electric cars are the future. And Tesla is the leading producer of electric cars. We all know how important the company is, otherwise the stock price wouldn't be so high. Using electric cars with solar panels at home and charging your car for free at home is the best we can do for the environment. Just look at China they opened now the second biggest solar farm in the world. We must all work together and use renewable resources as energy sources. My next car is definitely going to be an electric car.

Tesla is the leading producer of electric batteries. Make no mistake, this is going into every home even faster than the cars.

This Australian made a very deep explanation of these new 4680 cells, its even better than what Tesla actually presented:


EEVblog #1340 - New Tesla 4680 Battery Cell EXPLAINED


This guy owns a Hyundai EV, so he is not a "Tesla fanboy".

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November 03, 2020, 04:09:09 PM
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Don't get me wrong, but ... Tesla is not the last light at the end of the tunnel. I respect this company for its real contribution to the development of solar energy and the development of battery volume. This is important now and will be even more important in the future. But ... I don't think Tesla and electric cars are generally more in demand than conventional gasoline options. Exclude those countries where there is a government subsidy for the purchase of electric cars. Exclude those countries where the network of electric stations is actively developing. And you will see that most of the users are still buying regular cars. Not even that. People buy used standard cars (or hybrids). This is clearly visible if you look at the longo site. My relatives bought used cars through this service. They say there is always a huge selection, but there are also enough buyers.
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November 05, 2020, 08:24:00 AM
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I'm from a long time a very strong fan of the Tesla idea of electric vehicles, i love the smart idea and designs and of course i will love to have mine in time. 38000 dollars for the recent release is less than the previous release but it's still quite expensive for an average Joe. I believe that i  time, electric vehicles will become more accessible and cheaper to people around the globe.
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I'm from a long time a very strong fan of the Tesla idea of electric vehicles, i love the smart idea and designs and of course i will love to have mine in time. 38000 dollars for the recent release is less than the previous release but it's still quite expensive for an average Joe. I believe that i  time, electric vehicles will become more accessible and cheaper to people around the globe.

That is my plan too, I am waiting for the Tesla cars to drop in price more until I can buy one. For me an electric car is perfect because I only need a car for short trips (<100km) and could easily charge in the garage at home. Unfortunately the cars are still so expensive that I will only switch once my old car dies. Tesla is definitely my favourite electric car. I have been a fan of Elon Musk for years, he is a great entrepreneur and pushing humanity in many fields.

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Its a Shame that the Hyperloop is a scam. Do not Trust Elon Musk.

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I cannot say that I really want a Tesla car, but they are definitely doing some incredible stuff. The battery tech is where they could really make the money, the automated driving is cool but I think there are lots of environmental factors that will make it tricky to master. Elon Musk is a very clever person, but I find him to be a pretty repugnant human being and it is terrible how he has been allowed to get away with things like blatant insider trading, after which he went on to taunt the securities regulator who were too weak to sanction him properly.

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November 12, 2020, 05:05:09 PM
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I think almost all would like an electric car to save on fuel but at the moment i don't think Tesla is the first choice there are also other car manufacturers that are making really great progress in the end i think it will be a battle over the price and the one that comes out with a cheap model on the market will be the real winner

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November 13, 2020, 07:12:11 AM
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Electric vehicles do not use any fossil fuels so they can be a good alternative to ordinary motor vehicles but if a coal-fired power project is used to charge batteries the risk is greater than the environmental benefits and fuel cell cars also use hydrogen to ensure that the environment is not harmed. Also the disadvantage of tesla electric cars is that they can run as long as the battery is charged while this is not a problem for short distances it will require frequent battery charging over long distances.
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November 13, 2020, 05:42:34 PM
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Tesla is the future especially In developed countries where there is available electric supply but in developing countries I don't think it will make a huge difference. Except if it's also developing alternative power source to power it cars in such areas.

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