Anyone know a dice game that is actually fair?

[maxreish]

You mean, dice are being so rigged after you withdraw some coins?
 If you wanted to check if your bets are fair, you can always verify bets so you may know if it's really a fair dice game or not. I've been experiencing many worst losses after withdrawing, but that has nothing to do with the fairness of dice, I think.
 As you know, we tend to win in a casino. It's just that, most of us don't know when to stop after winning ended up losing.
 
 Check this out, it may help you understand how probably fair dice explained and work as fair.

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[Rengga Jati]

The house will always win so no matter what strategies you are using they will still find a way to collect money from you but of course many are still offering at least a fair gambling site.

I think it's too much to say that. Because, if this always happened, then no one would want to play at Dice.

The chance to win at Dice is still there. We may indeed have a smaller chance than the house. However, that does not mean "never".
Whatever the strengths and weaknesses in this Dice should really be considered. I think the main factor here is probably about "luck", the rest is strategy and opportunity.

We can see various sites with trusted and professional dice gambling. Many gamblers can enjoy and play very well. But, once you don't believe in Dice gambling, never come to them again and never gamble at dice again. because, if you force to do so, you will get hurt every time you lost.

[Google+]

You mean, dice are being so rigged after you withdraw some coins?
 If you wanted to check if your bets are fair, you can always verify bets so you may know if it's really a fair dice game or not. I've been experiencing many worst losses after withdrawing, but that has nothing to do with the fairness of dice, I think.
 As you know, we tend to win in a casino. It's just that, most of us don't know when to stop after winning ended up losing.
 
 Check this out, it may help you understand how probably fair dice explained and work as fair.

well the problem is that when you have benefited from the winnings you get it will be difficult to stop and keep trying to get more profit, but sometimes gambling places have installed several scrpits which may not be easy to know by making the user who already has profit from the capital used will be made to lose and always lose, I think when you get 50% profit, it's better to leave and don't use that account again.

[Ucy]

What exactly do you mean by "real provably fair feature" here?

Sites can definitely pretend to be using actual provable fair feature, while they don't. So any site that implement the fair/good provable feature can be said to be using the real feature. That is what I mean above.

Provably Fair" has absolutely nothing to do with statistical probabilities of how often you win or lose.

I didnt say that^. Read my post carefully to understand it.
I think what Op means by statistically fair games, are games he thinks are fair, probably with his own/sites measurement of fairness. A real Provable Fair feature would be a proper way to check a betting site's provable fairness

[mu_enrico]

I think the problem with all the accusations is about the wrong understanding of provably fair. Let's say there is no HE so that the odds would be 50:50. People like to think that after ten bets, the result would be five highs and five lows. That's not the case. People should think that every bet is an independent event.

Provably fair guaranteed after users change the seeds, the outcome of the next bet would be unknown (even to the casino operator if users use their own client seed). It doesn't matter if the result would be ten consecutive highs or lows.

[Amel]

All of these supposedly statistically fair games seem to rape you when you cash anything out or just when you decide to bet bigger than some micro level.

Curious if anyone has ever beat one without getting crushed the second they take some off the table?

The first thing you need to keep in mind here is which site you are betting on. First of all you need to prioritize a good betting site to find out. The dice games are on the many betting site but you need to know better about the betting site first. But if you can choose the right site, then there is no chance of being cheated.

[leea-1334]

I will not talk about yolodice since it is obvious I am a supporter and investor there of course I will be biased about it. I also will not talk about any other site where I have investment but my experience has actually been,,, if the site has a provably fair algorithm and it does check out, I have never had problems.

I overall lost money of course, but at some sites overall I am in profit, so obviously in long term I know I must lose to house edge. Which is also why overall I see profit in investments.

Many dice sites here on this forum are fair. Everyone of them has people complaining but you cannot challenge mathematics.

[Ridwan Fauzi]

Did you get this situation when you play dice only?

I play dice a couple of times in a week but until now I never feel that I was rigged or whatever it says although I got lost many times. Because I play gambling which has a decent percent to get win and the rest it all about my luck. Yeah, I often, and until now even I always use my strategy in all my bet but the chance to get win is smaller than I got loss. This is why I never have a high expectation to get win, just play and use money that I can afford to lose, and that is enough to me.

[Shasha80]

Even if gambling sites prove fair in dice games, it's still impossible to beat the house edge in the long run. So if you have managed
to get a large enough profit, don't continue playing dice with that account. That's what I did when playing dice games, but from several
gambling sites that were promoting on this forum. All proved fair when I checked.

[matchi2011]

Even if gambling sites prove fair in dice games, it's still impossible to beat the house edge in the long run. So if you have managed
to get a large enough profit, don't continue playing dice with that account. That's what I did when playing dice games, but from several
gambling sites that were promoting on this forum. All proved fair when I checked.

The management manage to advertise around the forum to attract gamblers, providing ways to let gamblers to check their
system in terms of fairness.
And like what you have said, in the long run even how fair the house was H.E will kill you if you played longer, you need to
quit while you are still in positive.

[South Park]

All of these supposedly statistically fair games seem to rape you when you cash anything out or just when you decide to bet bigger than some micro level.

Curious if anyone has ever beat one without getting crushed the second they take some off the table?

There are many websites like that, I am not going to recommend you one of them because they are very easy to find, just look for dice sites that are popular and that have been around in the market for years, if they were cheating their customers then we will know by now, however I do not know if you have a mistaken idea of what it means probably fair, that does not mean you have the same winning chance than the house, those games still have a house edge and you will still lose your money over the long term.

[dothebeats]

Provably-fair has nothing to do with your odds of winning or losing. It’s there for you to check whether the session that you are playing currently is valid and legitimate by checking the hash and see if the expected outcome is the same as what the site displays. Withdraws have nothing to do with your luck, and perhaps those are just coincidences that happen at the same time. Same with increasing the size of your bet. These are completely unrelated to the outcome of the dice session, and if it is rigged then people would have noticed and have investigated immediately and these sites would be down by now.

[Saint-loup]

I know they all have an edge. I am talking about a game where the stated odds are 49.7% meaning a house edge on of 0.3%. In that environment what are the odds of losing 11 in a row? 17 in a row? or 6 out of 7 bets repeatedly?

I should preface this with that I did have a couple incredible runs on this game in the past. Variance just catching up?

Losing 11 times in a row at a dice game is something that happens very rarely.
You should think about a tree diagram
You have 50.3% chances to lose at the first round, 50.3% x 50.3% the 2 first rounds, 50.3%³ to lose the 3 first rounds etc.
It means you have (50.3%)¹¹=0.052% chances to lose 11times in a row

           win (49.7%x49.7%)
 win (49.7%)
           lose (49.7%x50.3%)

           win (50.3%x49.7%)
 lose (50.3%)
           lose (50.3%x50.3%)

[Viscore]

Have you said that winning over the house is fair for you? It is likely not. They will make gambling as a milking place from every player. Yes, someone won the jackpot but don't we think that they collected more than the jackpot prize. It actually, gambling can't be fair, they are benefiting from this and they run their business successfully because of what they did. Isn't a way fo scamming, we don't have luck all the time that is why our winning chances are very slim but they are (always)?

[danherbias07]

All of these supposedly statistically fair games seem to rape you when you cash anything out or just when you decide to bet bigger than some micro level.

Curious if anyone has ever beat one without getting crushed the second they take some off the table?

There's no such thing.
The house always wins.
It's like you want to rob them away with their business. Gambling sites will always have the upper hand.
But if you want to try your luck then you might really have it.
As long as you stop when you make profits. It will still depend on you.

[k@suy]

All of these supposedly statistically fair games seem to rape you when you cash anything out or just when you decide to bet bigger than some micro level.

Curious if anyone has ever beat one without getting crushed the second they take some off the table?

There's no such thing.
The house always wins.
It's like you want to rob them away with their business. Gambling sites will always have the upper hand.
But if you want to try your luck then you might really have it.
As long as you stop when you make profits. It will still depend on you.

Nobody can tell of the game you are up into is legit or not because the cheats or the hidden are cannot be seen by our eyes co'z usually the game masters are good at manipulating the game and most of the games are literally manipulated by the game operator and they are just tricking us to earn a great amount of money.

[semobo]

All of these supposedly statistically fair games seem to rape you when you cash anything out or just when you decide to bet bigger than some micro level.

Curious if anyone has ever beat one without getting crushed the second they take some off the table?

Here is a complete guide to find the fairness of your dice site : https://dicesites.com/provably-fair

But it seems you are not sure about the fairness in the crypto gambling sites where the sites cannot change the results which could beneficial for them, its just your factor and when you got luck then the bet will be on your side.

[Twinkledoe]

Have you said that winning over the house is fair for you? It is likely not. They will make gambling as a milking place from every player. Yes, someone won the jackpot but don't we think that they collected more than the jackpot prize. It actually, gambling can't be fair, they are benefiting from this and they run their business successfully because of what they did. Isn't a way fo scamming, we don't have luck all the time that is why our winning chances are very slim but they are (always)?

That's gambling business. The reason why casinos are thriving and we already know it. And yet, gamblers still play even if they know the odds of winning. Casinos have the advantage, the house edge. So if you don't want to lose money in gambling, then don't play. I guess, as simple as it is. And dice is a pure luck-based game, so don't expect that you will get rich from this game.

[Saint-loup]

I know they all have an edge. I am talking about a game where the stated odds are 49.7% meaning a house edge on of 0.3%. In that environment what are the odds of losing 11 in a row? 17 in a row? or 6 out of 7 bets repeatedly?

I should preface this with that I did have a couple incredible runs on this game in the past. Variance just catching up?

CMIIW but it's the union of all the 6 out of 7 losing bets.
That is to say
LLLLLLW
LLLLLWL
LLLLWLL
LLLWLLL
LLWLLLL
LWLLLLL
WLLLLLL

The probability to get LLLLLLW is (50.3%)⁶x49.7%=0.8%
The probability to get LLLLLWL is (50.3%)⁵x49.7%x50.3%=0.8%
And it's the same for the 5 other combinations.

So the chances to get 6 losing bets out of 7 are 0.8%+0.8%+0.8%+0.8%+0.8%+0.8%+0.8%=7x0.8%=5.6%

[Ayiranorea]

Every Casino promote their service to be provably fair. Every Casino too have their own procedure to check the fairness of the roll. Just on the coincidence people believe in it. No one is sure, to what extent this is fair. With the trusted gambling site, it is good to spend unlike the fair functioning.