Searching information about child porn block

[konfuzius5278]

Hi,

I just remember an german article in a good technical newspaper that apart from strange links a real child porn pic should be foundable at one of the early blocks.

A german university find out. (RWTH Aachen/Goethe University)

Its german dont wanna change original text, you can use google translator

https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Bitcoin-Forscher-finden-Kinderpornographie-in-der-Blockchain-4000693.html

Forscher haben in der Bitcoin-Blockchain mehrere illegale Inhalte entdeckt, die von Nutzern eingeschleust wurden und aufgrund der Funktionsweise nicht mehr gelöscht werden können. Wie sie in ihrem Paper ausführen, haben die Forscher der RWTH Aachen und der Goethe-Universität Frankfurt/Main verschiedene Methoden zusammengetragen, mit denen nicht direkt zu Transaktionen gehörende Informationsbrocken in der Blockchain abgelegt werden können. Insgesamt haben sie mehr als 1600 Dateien gefunden, die auf diese Weise in die Blockchain geschleust wurden: Darunter seien zwei Linklisten, die auf kinderpornographische Inhalte verweisen, eine sei ein Bild, das selbst kinderpornographisch sei.

My interest:
Does anyone know more about that pic and which block it can be found? Want more verification....

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[Lorence.xD]

If this is a real CP, this might be sickening. Report this to the authority or cybertip.org, this is considered an online child exploitation. In the first place why put it here first without reporting it first? Curiousity can be a good excuse but you should report this.

[hugeblack]

Why do you republish this misleading story, the first time I heard about this story in the world 2017, which dates back to 2013, and that for the alleged research is what earns it legitimacy for many organizations.

All of these claims are based on the fact that the blockchain is open-source, anyone can write to it and cannot be modified.
It's like saying government websites are full of CP.

[konfuzius5278]

If this is a real CP, this might be sickening. Report this to the authority or cybertip.org, this is considered an online child exploitation. In the first place why put it here first without reporting it first? Curiousity can be a good excuse but you should report this.

Its already reported. The university worked together with the german police in that case.

Maybe its not 100% clear, thats my question.

If its real, having the blockchain on a computer is illegal. And thats the way the goverment can attack it

[konfuzius5278]

Why do you republish this misleading story, the first time I heard about this story in the world 2017, which dates back to 2013, and that for the alleged research is what earns it legitimacy for many organizations.

All of these claims are based on the fact that the blockchain is open-source, anyone can write to it and cannot be modified.
It's like saying government websites are full of CP.

Its not goverment its everyone. And its no link its a pic (based on that information). Thats makes the problem much bigger.

[HeRetiK]

If its real, having the blockchain on a computer is illegal. And thats the way the goverment can attack it

Probably real, still doesn't make storing the blockchain illegal.

It's been discussed time and again, whatever illegal content may be stored on the Bitcoin blockchain is merely there as an unreadable blob of binary data and can not be accessed without considerate technical effort. Unless you go through the effort of extracting this content and converting it into a format that can be read by media software there's no laws being broken.

Imagine a rogue Microsoft Engineer steganographically including CP in a DLL that gets updated during a Windows update. Obviously that engineer would have to answer some questions, but that wouldn't make Windows users liable for having this hidden data on their hard drives.

[konfuzius5278]

If its real, having the blockchain on a computer is illegal. And thats the way the goverment can attack it

Probably real, still doesn't make storing the blockchain illegal.

It's been discussed time and again, whatever illegal content may be stored on the Bitcoin blockchain is merely there as an unreadable blob of binary data and can not be accessed without considerate technical effort. Unless you go through the effort of extracting this content and converting it into a format that can be read by media software there's no laws being broken.

Imagine a rogue Microsoft Engineer steganographically including CP in a DLL that gets updated during a Windows update. Obviously that engineer would have to answer some questions, but that wouldn't make Windows users liable for having this hidden data on their hard drives.

In germany we have very hard laws for CP. The form of CP is free even writing a CP Text is forbidden or having a encrypted code. The point is not the technic, olny the sexual aspect of minors.

So yes , a windows that would need that CP dll file would be illegal to store.

Thats my point. I think goverment knows about that, maybe some goverment even placed it there.

And when they need to forbid Bitcoin, they do with this argument

[konfuzius5278]

And still searching this block for jut proof myself

[HeRetiK]

In germany we have very hard laws for CP. The form of CP is free even writing a CP Text is forbidden or having a encrypted code. The point is not the technic, olny the sexual aspect of minors.

So yes , a windows that would need that CP dll file would be illegal to store.

Thats my point. I think goverment knows about that, maybe some goverment even placed it there.

And when they need to forbid Bitcoin, they do with this argument

Well, the good news is that looking at the paper itself it seems like the researchers didn't even find CP, there was only a claim they found on an online forum that they didn't actually verify for ethical (and possibly legal) reasons:

Bitcoin’s blockchain contains at least eight files with sexual content. While five files only show, describe, or link to mildly pornographic content, we consider the remaining three instances objectionable for almost all jurisdictions: Two of them are backups of link lists to child pornography, containing 274 links to websites, 142 of which refer to Tor hidden services. The remaining instance is an image depicting mild nudity of a young woman. In an online forum this image is claimed to show child pornography, albeit this claim cannot be verified (due to ethical concerns we refrain from providing a citation).

The bad news is that of course that's not stopping anyone from adding CP in the future.

The good news is that it's still unlikely that German courts (or any court, really) would put anyone behind bars for a binary blob of data on the Bitcoin blockchain. Law is based on the legislative intent rather than technicalities and in this case it's about content rather than binary data.


This Heise comment said it best:

pi = 3,141 592 653 589 ...

In den Nachkommastellen soll jede Zahlenfolge die es gibt abgebildet sein.

Damit auch die Zahlenfolge von jedem in Zahlen kodiertes KiPo Bild.

Nur an welcher Stelle sich diese Zahlenfolge befindet muss man selber suchen.

-> also Pi verbieten!

Let's ban the number Pi because it contains every kind of CP imaginable! All you need to do is find the correct starting point in its digits.

[konfuzius5278]

So espcially BTC Maxis say its not illegal I personal need a check.

So without the right block its not checkable if its CP or just porn.

Anyone can help?