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October 21, 2020, 10:34:04 PM
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Interesting.
Is that (the bolded) just an observation or it certainly happens? Will be disappointed if it does happen in major football/soccer leagues.

Sure, it happens in major football leagues a lot. It's more like match fixing problem rather than ratings though. We know certified cases in Italian league etc., big clubs got relegated after that scandal was exposed.
I don't think NBA has that kind of problem because it's bigger platform and different challenge but I believe that happens occasionally and it's almost impossible to prove.
It is a big shame for the NBA if does it happens. I can't tell or to believe that it actually exists in basketball, a sort of manipulation, well, it talks differently when it comes to money and how the business moving on but doubtedly it happens.

For a game that has been set-up already, will it sees to be boring. I'm not sure how both teams dramatically performing the game until the end which very unlikley to see when both teams wanted to gain winnings and championship. So for now, I'm holding the trust that NBA haven't rigged.
We do have the rights and decisions on our own on what to believe and whats not but how can you explain about this game wayback in 2002 WCF?
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Try to watch the video of said finals and decide and see it for yourself if this is something normal that you do normally we believe?
Rigged games do exist as long theres money do circulate then these events are pretty norm.

Look at Divac's face here, he was laughing like he really know something was going on, players know as they are in the game and sometimes we see them complain while some just let the game flow as they know they would still not win and they might just threw out of the game.

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October 22, 2020, 08:35:40 AM
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Interesting.
Is that (the bolded) just an observation or it certainly happens? Will be disappointed if it does happen in major football/soccer leagues.

Sure, it happens in major football leagues a lot. It's more like match fixing problem rather than ratings though. We know certified cases in Italian league etc., big clubs got relegated after that scandal was exposed.
I don't think NBA has that kind of problem because it's bigger platform and different challenge but I believe that happens occasionally and it's almost impossible to prove.


I guess it will be pretty easy to prove if a referee intentionally officiate in certain way in favour or against a team. But it'll be abit hard to prove if two experienced teams agree to play in certain way to achieve a predetermined score/result.
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October 22, 2020, 09:08:29 AM
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At some point I think the NBA was rigged before not quite sure when was that but if you are referring to current playoffs we can how really both Heat and Lakers do their best in games we can see also how Butler works and we can see how LeBron and his teammates do the same thing to win. I really don't think it is rigged

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October 22, 2020, 09:55:17 AM
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At some point I think the NBA was rigged before not quite sure when was that but if you are referring to current playoffs we can how really both Heat and Lakers do their best in games we can see also how Butler works and we can see how LeBron and his teammates do the same thing to win. I really don't think it is rigged
Heat did everything but I think ref somehow help them to win games, if there's a good call, Lakers could finish the heat in 4, we've seen it but sometimes best players are going to be out of rhythm if the calls are all against them, just like what Davis experience, he also had some off games in the series.

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October 22, 2020, 12:56:49 PM
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Interesting.
Is that (the bolded) just an observation or it certainly happens? Will be disappointed if it does happen in major football/soccer leagues.

Sure, it happens in major football leagues a lot. It's more like match fixing problem rather than ratings though. We know certified cases in Italian league etc., big clubs got relegated after that scandal was exposed.
I don't think NBA has that kind of problem because it's bigger platform and different challenge but I believe that happens occasionally and it's almost impossible to prove.


I guess it will be pretty easy to prove if a referee intentionally officiate in certain way in favour or against a team. But it'll be abit hard to prove if two experienced teams agree to play in certain way to achieve a predetermined score/result.

Definitely a quiet so true, sometimes it is hard to tell whether the game was rigged or not. I dont think that NBA game was rigged since as what we have seen in the last game of Lakers and Heat both team has played the game well. Every players did their best to make their respective team stand till last. I couldn't think how to say that NBA game was rigged, can't see it while on a live game, maybe some regulations of the game were worked behind the scene.

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At some point I think the NBA was rigged before not quite sure when was that but if you are referring to current playoffs we can how really both Heat and Lakers do their best in games we can see also how Butler works and we can see how LeBron and his teammates do the same thing to win. I really don't think it is rigged
Heat did everything but I think ref somehow help them to win games, if there's a good call, Lakers could finish the heat in 4, we've seen it but sometimes best players are going to be out of rhythm if the calls are all against them, just like what Davis experience, he also had some off games in the series.
No one can tell, it's just how you think but I'm pretty sure many people think the game is fair.

Prior to the Finals, Lakers was already expected to win as teams in the East are really weak, sorry just saying the truth.

But Heat had a great journey, they beat the best team in the regular season, that was the bucks where they almost swept, so I don't think they can't win against the Lakers although Lakers was obviously playing well.

Anyway, what you see is what you believe, we might see the same game but look it differently.  Grin

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October 22, 2020, 02:10:31 PM
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With so many games that will take place that might be so hard to find out, rigging the games are unpredictable and can happen in a certain live games, we can't say or assess it right away unless you have insiders that will tell you exactly which games will be manipulated.

You have to extend your time doing deeper research to anticipate to possibilities of this claims.

I am sure the referee will do their best to guard the match, even if some referees try to rig the games by giving punishment to some players. But if we want to do deeper research, that will not be easy, since that will need to watch closely for each of them. We can let the match run while we can enjoy the game without thinking about the rig because we are not sure about that.

Well, there are times that the referee are making these weird calls that might be a proof that there are games that are rigged. We don't know actually know what is happening but if there are those people that bet huge amount of money into these sports, I think there are those times where it is being rigged by either the players themselves or the referees.

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October 22, 2020, 02:25:43 PM
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At some point I think the NBA was rigged before not quite sure when was that but if you are referring to current playoffs we can how really both Heat and Lakers do their best in games we can see also how Butler works and we can see how LeBron and his teammates do the same thing to win. I really don't think it is rigged
Heat did everything but I think ref somehow help them to win games, if there's a good call, Lakers could finish the heat in 4, we've seen it but sometimes best players are going to be out of rhythm if the calls are all against them, just like what Davis experience, he also had some off games in the series.

I agree with how Heat tried everything but with some rigged calls not sure about that, both sides claimed to have a bad calls respectively and we can't removed that.

The fact that both teams really wanted to win over another, there are calls that they've think its favors the other side, and busting the game.

It's done and we all seen the outcome, Lakers line up really dominates the game
they are more solid compared to Heat's lineup where all are still young.

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October 22, 2020, 02:55:29 PM
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Definitely, NO.
I still believe in the fair play that they showed to us despite some rumors.

Some win and some lose, that is the reality in every game. And it was obvious that the Lakers is better than Heat, so the best wins...
Heat players need time to develop their teammates and to be more aggressive. Hope they can make a good/better play next season.
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October 22, 2020, 09:35:07 PM
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Heat did everything but I think ref somehow help them to win games, if there's a good call, Lakers could finish the heat in 4, we've seen it but sometimes best players are going to be out of rhythm if the calls are all against them, just like what Davis experience, he also had some off games in the series.

I think not. On those 2 games where the Heat won, try to check the foul call stats at each team and we can say no involvement of referees to that just to increase the chance of Miami Heat winning on that games.

I also expected a sweep but after watching the whole series, we have seen how positive Heat players to avoid being swept. And that's a 4-1 if only Danny Green
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October 22, 2020, 09:39:46 PM
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Definitely, NO.
I still believe in the fair play that they showed to us despite some rumors.

Some win and some lose, that is the reality in every game. And it was obvious that the Lakers is better than Heat, so the best wins...
Heat players need time to develop their teammates and to be more aggressive. Hope they can make a good/better play next season.
The best for each season wins.

But many are believing that by the next season, they can still be the one who'll become the champs again. A back to back as their roster is really strong.

I don't believe that it's rigged too.



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October 22, 2020, 09:58:31 PM
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Heat did everything but I think ref somehow help them to win games, if there's a good call, Lakers could finish the heat in 4, we've seen it but sometimes best players are going to be out of rhythm if the calls are all against them, just like what Davis experience, he also had some off games in the series.

I think not. On those 2 games where the Heat won, try to check the foul call stats at each team and we can say no involvement of referees to that just to increase the chance of Miami Heat winning on that games.

I also expected a sweep but after watching the whole series, we have seen how positive Heat players to avoid being swept. And that's a 4-1 if only Danny Green
able to hit that supposed open big clutch shot on Game 5.
Indeed, it is a clean fight between the both teams. However, we all know that there are some instances that referees di really have their favorable team which they will give a lot of advantages of the game.

And to answer OP, no it is not. As I said, there are only times that the referee will have a favorable team but it doesn't mean that the whole NBA games are rigged.



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October 22, 2020, 10:58:24 PM
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Heat did everything but I think ref somehow help them to win games, if there's a good call, Lakers could finish the heat in 4, we've seen it but sometimes best players are going to be out of rhythm if the calls are all against them, just like what Davis experience, he also had some off games in the series.

I think not. On those 2 games where the Heat won, try to check the foul call stats at each team and we can say no involvement of referees to that just to increase the chance of Miami Heat winning on that games.

I also expected a sweep but after watching the whole series, we have seen how positive Heat players to avoid being swept. And that's a 4-1 if only Danny Green
able to hit that supposed open big clutch shot on Game 5.
Indeed, it is a clean fight between the both teams. However, we all know that there are some instances that referees di really have their favorable team which they will give a lot of advantages of the game.

And to answer OP, no it is not. As I said, there are only times that the referee will have a favorable team but it doesn't mean that the whole NBA games are rigged.

What would the fer get if he will favor a certain team?

Money, or winning from his bet?

I think that is just too small considering millions of money are being wagered in just one game in the NBA, and no refs would risk his job for that small amount of money, we should also be talking of hundreds of thousands or even millions given to the refs if NBA is not involved in rigging games. For me, if refs has a favorable team, that's not doing is job, we can still categorized that to game rigging.

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October 22, 2020, 10:59:25 PM
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Interesting.
Is that (the bolded) just an observation or it certainly happens? Will be disappointed if it does happen in major football/soccer leagues.

Sure, it happens in major football leagues a lot. It's more like match fixing problem rather than ratings though. We know certified cases in Italian league etc., big clubs got relegated after that scandal was exposed.
I don't think NBA has that kind of problem because it's bigger platform and different challenge but I believe that happens occasionally and it's almost impossible to prove.
It is a big shame for the NBA if does it happens. I can't tell or to believe that it actually exists in basketball, a sort of manipulation, well, it talks differently when it comes to money and how the business moving on but doubtedly it happens.

For a game that has been set-up already, will it sees to be boring. I'm not sure how both teams dramatically performing the game until the end which very unlikley to see when both teams wanted to gain winnings and championship. So for now, I'm holding the trust that NBA haven't rigged.
We do have the rights and decisions on our own on what to believe and whats not but how can you explain about this game wayback in 2002 WCF?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITDJBr-iN1I

Try to watch the video of said finals and decide and see it for yourself if this is something normal that you do normally we believe?
Rigged games do exist as long theres money do circulate then these events are pretty norm.

Look at Divac's face here, he was laughing like he really know something was going on, players know as they are in the game and sometimes we see them complain while some just let the game flow as they know they would still not win and they might just threw out of the game.
Its pretty obvious and even Lakers fan do already notice it out that something shit is going on with the game. All those foul calls are indeed controversial.
How the hell an offensive foul on a player which is only standing? 0.04- 0.06 seconds of the video itself you can tell that was a shitty call.
Even myself watching on that playback do just end up on having a smile on my face and i can feel out on the situation they are in.  Cheesy

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October 23, 2020, 07:51:11 AM
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Definitely, NO.
I still believe in the fair play that they showed to us despite some rumors.

Some win and some lose, that is the reality in every game. And it was obvious that the Lakers are better than Heat, so the best wins...
Heat players need time to develop their teammates and to be more aggressive. Hope they can make a good/better play next season.
The best for each season wins.

But many are believing that by the next season, they can still be the one who'll become the champs again. A back to back as their roster is really strong.

I don't believe that it's rigged too.

Each has their own opinion but we cannot remove the fact that there are really bad calls or bad plays in NBA which makes audiences doubt about the game.
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October 23, 2020, 08:21:05 AM
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Definitely, NO.
I still believe in the fair play that they showed to us despite some rumors.

Some win and some lose, that is the reality in every game. And it was obvious that the Lakers are better than Heat, so the best wins...
Heat players need time to develop their teammates and to be more aggressive. Hope they can make a good/better play next season.
The best for each season wins.

But many are believing that by the next season, they can still be the one who'll become the champs again. A back to back as their roster is really strong.

I don't believe that it's rigged too.

Each has their own opinion but we cannot remove the fact that there are really bad calls or bad plays in NBA which makes audiences doubt about the game.

When you say audience that does not mean the entire audience, maybe few, and that is normal. Those who think NBA is rig should not just watch the game instead because it will not make them enjoy watching the game as all they think is just to criticize and that eliminates the excitement.

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October 23, 2020, 08:26:16 AM
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The best for each season wins.

But many are believing that by the next season, they can still be the one who'll become the champs again. A back to back as their roster is really strong.

I don't believe that it's rigged too.

Each has their own opinion but we cannot remove the fact that there are really bad calls or bad plays in NBA which makes audiences doubt about the game.

When you say audience that does not mean the entire audience, maybe few, and that is normal. Those who think NBA is rig should not just watch the game instead because it will not make them enjoy watching the game as all they think is just to criticize and that eliminates the excitement.
And that is different from being a watcher and a referee. Some did a bad call coz they are not perfect.
The bold one hurts, ouch. Yeah, they might stop watching NBA than hurting themselves and not to trust what the referee does.
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October 23, 2020, 08:42:09 AM
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Definitely, NO.
I still believe in the fair play that they showed to us despite some rumors.

Some win and some lose, that is the reality in every game. And it was obvious that the Lakers are better than Heat, so the best wins...
Heat players need time to develop their teammates and to be more aggressive. Hope they can make a good/better play next season.
The best for each season wins.

But many are believing that by the next season, they can still be the one who'll become the champs again. A back to back as their roster is really strong.

I don't believe that it's rigged too.

Each has their own opinion but we cannot remove the fact that there are really bad calls or bad plays in NBA which makes audiences doubt about the game.



I assume that after a match is played, spectators and others, point out bad decisions with their evidences (probably from their cameras) and official cameras. I wonder if this happens? If the evidence is compelling, then a match is replayed and victory reverted.
I think evidence would need to be authentic, and uploaded immediately on a public site as they are gathered. Such site would need to be decentralized I think, so evidences can't be tampered.
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October 23, 2020, 09:15:06 AM
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With so many games that will take place that might be so hard to find out, rigging the games are unpredictable and can happen in a certain live games, we can't say or assess it right away unless you have insiders that will tell you exactly which games will be manipulated.

You have to extend your time doing deeper research to anticipate to possibilities of this claims.

I am sure the referee will do their best to guard the match, even if some referees try to rig the games by giving punishment to some players. But if we want to do deeper research, that will not be easy, since that will need to watch closely for each of them. We can let the match run while we can enjoy the game without thinking about the rig because we are not sure about that.

Well, there are times that the referee are making these weird calls that might be a proof that there are games that are rigged. We don't know actually know what is happening but if there are those people that bet huge amount of money into these sports, I think there are those times where it is being rigged by either the players themselves or the referees.

But that will need more proof for the referee to be guilty, and the association can not judge the referee without having more proof. The audience will not know, but sometimes, the audience can see it clearly, but we can not do anything once again. But I hope that if the NBA games really get rigged, the person can be proved as a suspect, be punished, or be a prison.

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October 23, 2020, 11:01:14 AM
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But that will need more proof for the referee to be guilty, and the association can not judge the referee without having more proof. The audience will not know, but sometimes, the audience can see it clearly, but we can not do anything once again. But I hope that if the NBA games really get rigged, the person can be proved as a suspect, be punished, or be a prison.
The association can review the play since it's recorded, so even if the organization has no proof that the refs are rigging the game, but with inconsistent calls by the referee, they can fire the referee because he is not doing his job, and that would hurt the referee as that is their main income, so they'll certainly make sure they will do their job very well.

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