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For now it still questionable and still have on doubters that there are indeed rigged games and I do believe the same thing.It might not be that too obvious but there are instances The questionable and speculations are just on few games so NBA as a whole is not rigged. Calling NBA as rigged because of those conspiracies videos is unfair at those who made the organization to where it is today. I agree with that as NBA represents the whole organization, one game being rigged does not mean every game is rigged, otherwise, it's easy to detect if they are consistently doing it, however, it's not proven yet, so it will remain an speculation. There might be at some few games way back classic days but during that time, it was sure addressed by the league.
Thing is, how do they addressed it when the NBA does not believe rigging games is happening inside?
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I have read a lot of theories about NBA being rigged and a little portion of me were convince, so I would like to ask you.
If you believe it's rigged, is it a disadvantage or advantage to us bettors?
Share your opinion and if you have some proof, kindly post.
There's no clear and strong evidence that can prove that NBA is rigged, the NBA organization is one of the most organized sports organization in the world and they will charge, fine, and ban for life those who will rig the game, millions of fans are still supporting it and media still trust that all the game are fair and besides it's hard to rig a game because millions of people are watching, every wrong call will be questioned. One of the best ways to have a credible games or competitions is to make them hard/impossible to rig. You could put in place fraud-proof system by making it very transparent, open, rule-based, participatory, hard-to-abuse/manipulate, consensus-driven (esp for quick rejection or acceptance of referee decisions), etc. I think It's OK for people to assume that certain games are rigged if they are indeed rig-able.
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I really can't imagine there is match fixing at this level. Those players who all earn a fortune in the NBA. then why would they participate in such a thing? keeping in mind that if anyone finds out, they could be suspended for life or at least end their career.
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I really can't imagine there is match fixing at this level. Those players who all earn a fortune in the NBA. then why would they participate in such a thing? keeping in mind that if anyone finds out, they could be suspended for life or at least end their career.
They are not really the one participating, it's the referees who are rigging the games, players don't know about it because they are just playing while referees are doing the calling, that's why sometimes there are bad calls and one bad all already have significant effect to the game. If you do some backreading, you'll be able to see videos shared of refs calling and not calling foul that should be called. They are in charge of the game, they say when the refs is with a certain team, most of the time that team will win, even how bad they are as a team.
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Depends on which part of NBA do you think it is rigged or not. If you think games are rigged, I do not agree with that, teams do fight as much as they can to win every single game, sure there are times players just do not care about the regular season game and best teams lose to worst teams because they just didn't cared enough, but it is not due to rigged games, it is just players being humans.
However if it comes to stuff like maybe changing a teams name, or location, or even draft draws as well, like Chicago getting rose was a big topic of discussion for being rigged, those things could be true, these are still important stuff obviously but it doesn't reflect specifically on one games result, and not things you usually can gamble on neither so it doesn't matter to us gamblers.
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November 16, 2020, 09:52:49 PM |
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I really can't imagine there is match fixing at this level. Those players who all earn a fortune in the NBA. then why would they participate in such a thing? keeping in mind that if anyone finds out, they could be suspended for life or at least end their career.
They are not really the one participating, it's the referees who are rigging the games, players don't know about it because they are just playing while referees are doing the calling, that's why sometimes there are bad calls and one bad all already have significant effect to the game. If you do some backreading, you'll be able to see videos shared of refs calling and not calling foul that should be called. They are in charge of the game, they say when the refs is with a certain team, most of the time that team will win, even how bad they are as a team. Bad calls or decisions will really be a big factor on a certain game thats why if you've been a fan of basketball and been watching for a while and know the rules then you would really be having that question in mind on how the heck they do call it a foul if it wasnt.Rigging up games via referrees had been already prove out and one of them had really admitted on what the association is trying to do so.Rigging up games isnt that something surprising but on todays era where i cant see any games that do have some shady decision calls by refs.
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November 16, 2020, 11:16:32 PM |
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Rigging up games isnt that something surprising but on todays era where i cant see any games that do have some shady decision calls by refs.
There's still a lot today mate, but they are careful with it as we already have a media where people can freely published what they see, so it will be easy for people to know and the organization as a whole will be affected. I know one ref admitted that he is rigging the game but he did not say it was the order by the organization or the top management, it was only for his personal interest.
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Rigging up games isnt that something surprising but on todays era where i cant see any games that do have some shady decision calls by refs.
There's still a lot today mate, but they are careful with it as we already have a media where people can freely published what they see, so it will be easy for people to know and the organization as a whole will be affected. I know one ref admitted that he is rigging the game but he did not say it was the order by the organization or the top management, it was only for his personal interest. That ref was caught decades ago and there's been no proof of cheating or fixed games since. I am aware that there is cheating someway somehow in every sport, but for there to be refs constantly fixing games in the NBA, I think the players would pick up on this. Players care a lot about the outcome of game, they make a ton of money as is..if anyone knew it was going on they would and they wouldn't stand for it as a whole.
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I really can't imagine there is match fixing at this level. Those players who all earn a fortune in the NBA. then why would they participate in such a thing? keeping in mind that if anyone finds out, they could be suspended for life or at least end their career.
They are not really the one participating, it's the referees who are rigging the games, players don't know about it because they are just playing while referees are doing the calling, that's why sometimes there are bad calls and one bad all already have significant effect to the game. If you do some backreading, you'll be able to see videos shared of refs calling and not calling foul that should be called. They are in charge of the game, they say when the refs is with a certain team, most of the time that team will win, even how bad they are as a team. It's clear that once the refs make things like this the entire game is affected. The outcome will favor the team that the ref are eyeing to win, no question about that. As there's really underrground things that may happened as there's a huge money that even this people(ref) are willing to sacrifice everything. One good game over another means huge money to pocket while working inside NBA.
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I really can't imagine there is match fixing at this level. Those players who all earn a fortune in the NBA. then why would they participate in such a thing? keeping in mind that if anyone finds out, they could be suspended for life or at least end their career.
They are not really the one participating, it's the referees who are rigging the games, players don't know about it because they are just playing while referees are doing the calling, that's why sometimes there are bad calls and one bad all already have significant effect to the game. If you do some backreading, you'll be able to see videos shared of refs calling and not calling foul that should be called. They are in charge of the game, they say when the refs is with a certain team, most of the time that team will win, even how bad they are as a team. Yes, its actually some of the referees that are messing up the tempo of the game. They would create this bad calls that are not even worth calling just to lower the morale of the team. Players would not even attempt to rig a game since it would be bad for their name and reputation however some referees are just bad and wanted more money from this kinds of establishments.
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November 18, 2020, 04:56:28 PM |
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I really can't imagine there is match fixing at this level. Those players who all earn a fortune in the NBA. then why would they participate in such a thing? keeping in mind that if anyone finds out, they could be suspended for life or at least end their career.
Sincerely, i can't see such take place with the consent of the players. Things like such do happen, though when they are happening only very few member boards are only aware and not the players, mostly the referees are the most dubious in the rigging. No one can debug rumors about fixed matches in the past and this can still happen to any league.
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I really can't imagine there is match fixing at this level. Those players who all earn a fortune in the NBA. then why would they participate in such a thing? keeping in mind that if anyone finds out, they could be suspended for life or at least end their career.
They are not really the one participating, it's the referees who are rigging the games, players don't know about it because they are just playing while referees are doing the calling, that's why sometimes there are bad calls and one bad all already have significant effect to the game. If you do some backreading, you'll be able to see videos shared of refs calling and not calling foul that should be called. They are in charge of the game, they say when the refs is with a certain team, most of the time that team will win, even how bad they are as a team. Yes, its actually some of the referees that are messing up the tempo of the game. They would create this bad calls that are not even worth calling just to lower the morale of the team. Players would not even attempt to rig a game since it would be bad for their name and reputation however some referees are just bad and wanted more money from this kinds of establishments. Never knew that referee can be involved on this unethical act but i don't also believe that the players rig the game their self if without the instruction of their so called master Mind . players won't be afraid because of that because they are protected but they can be more afraid if they won't do it . they are already rich and why will they be afraid when they get kicked out but they can get more richier if they keep on doing this but this was only a conspiracy . Nba is too big and formal to be rigged but local sports can possibly be
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November 19, 2020, 09:05:32 PM |
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Never knew that referee can be involved on this unethical act but i don't also believe that the players rig the game their self if without the instruction of their so called master Mind . players won't be afraid because of that because they are protected but they can be more afraid if they won't do it . they are already rich and why will they be afraid when they get kicked out but they can get more richier if they keep on doing this but this was only a conspiracy . Nba is too big and formal to be rigged but local sports can possibly be
It's only a conspiracy theory that everything is like that. People are good to catch scenes like this but all of those if for show, they'll be busted soon. Some other not famous leagues can be said of being rigged. But to assume that NBA is, conspiracies.
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November 19, 2020, 09:21:16 PM |
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Rigging up games isnt that something surprising but on todays era where i cant see any games that do have some shady decision calls by refs.
There's still a lot today mate, but they are careful with it as we already have a media where people can freely published what they see, so it will be easy for people to know and the organization as a whole will be affected. I know one ref admitted that he is rigging the game but he did not say it was the order by the organization or the top management, it was only for his personal interest. Of course that referee will surely tell that he's been making bad calls due to his own personal interest and no one in the right mind on messing up a finals series just because he do really like for this team to win because that would really be a bullshit excuse if someone do really believe into those claims. When it comes to this then it will automatically involved the organization because they cant just let things happen without intervening even on the middle of the game if they do saw that something isnt right with those calls. Its just normal that he would protect and cover up those people who are on behind the curtains.
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November 19, 2020, 09:37:50 PM |
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I really can't imagine that the NBA is being rigged, and by that i mean that a whole team is involved to let another team win or something. That indivual players are bought to make 5 fouls before halftime or something like that is imaginable, you can also bet on stuff like that, but like i said the the whole league is rigged is impossible to me. Buying a referee also won't help you to win in basketball i think. There is just too much money involved just like in the NFL and in the european football (soccer) leagues that you can manipulate those completely.
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November 19, 2020, 10:33:03 PM |
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I really can't imagine that the NBA is being rigged, and by that i mean that a whole team is involved to let another team win or something. That indivual players are bought to make 5 fouls before halftime or something like that is imaginable, you can also bet on stuff like that, but like i said the the whole league is rigged is impossible to me.
It's definitely impossible if we are talking about the whole league being rigged, it's not a wrestling matched though. Buying a referee also won't help you to win in basketball i think. There is just too much money involved just like in the NFL and in the european football (soccer) leagues that you can manipulate those completely.
No, it would help, what if refs would make bad calls to favor a certain team, that would help a certain team to win as refs decision is final, they can call a foul even without a foul and every points in basketball matters a lot especially if the game is close.
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NBA was not rigged according to some of the observer of the match, that the new team play bass on experience to defeat the old team who claim they lose base on some players who just recover from isolation center 2 todays before the match. The game look like it was rigged before until second half were the new team put more effort to win the game.
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November 20, 2020, 07:20:28 AM |
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Rigging up games isnt that something surprising but on todays era where i cant see any games that do have some shady decision calls by refs.
There's still a lot today mate, but they are careful with it as we already have a media where people can freely published what they see, so it will be easy for people to know and the organization as a whole will be affected. I know one ref admitted that he is rigging the game but he did not say it was the order by the organization or the top management, it was only for his personal interest. That ref was caught decades ago and there's been no proof of cheating or fixed games since. I am aware that there is cheating someway somehow in every sport, but for there to be refs constantly fixing games in the NBA, I think the players would pick up on this. Players care a lot about the outcome of game, they make a ton of money as is..if anyone knew it was going on they would and they wouldn't stand for it as a whole. Exactly, the refs are caught cheating but it was not by the order of the organization, it was only his personal motive to cheat the game for his satisfaction, with that said, it means NBA is not rigged but only refs or players trying to rig the game, it's already out of their control but they'll sanction them if they find people guilty of doing it.
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November 20, 2020, 08:21:05 AM |
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I really can't imagine there is match fixing at this level. Those players who all earn a fortune in the NBA. then why would they participate in such a thing? keeping in mind that if anyone finds out, they could be suspended for life or at least end their career.
They are not really the one participating, it's the referees who are rigging the games, players don't know about it because they are just playing while referees are doing the calling, that's why sometimes there are bad calls and one bad all already have significant effect to the game. If you do some backreading, you'll be able to see videos shared of refs calling and not calling foul that should be called.They are in charge of the game, they say when the refs is with a certain team, most of the time that team will win, even how bad they are as a team. I usually assume that some/most of such decisions by refs are mistakes/unintentional. But I don't think the mistakes should be left uncorrected once found. If mistakes were found after a game, the victims of such mistakes could be awarded points, serious mistakes should lead to replaying of the games/matches involved. This measures will help prevent officials (and others) from allowing future mistakes from happening That should keep games credible, acceptable by most/all & future abuses reduced
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November 20, 2020, 08:48:57 AM |
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The league would not risk their billions of revenue just to rigged games, what would that help them? If they got caught, the entire organization will be shut down and that revenue will stop, let's be realistic here, refs, players, or one of the officials could influence the game but the whole organization is not making it, that's for sure.
i think you are right with this they won't destroy their reputation that easily and lose revenue just to rig the game i agree that if there would be a rig here the organizations have nothing to do with it.
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