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October 24, 2020, 03:26:07 AM |
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Today i request you all to give your inputs on what features should be there in a DEX so that the price of a token does not crash on day of launching and how it can sustain momentum.
It's not in the power of the exchange to prevent this from happening, it has to been the doings of the project developers. They have to make their project very promising that early investors won't have to dump the tokens on the market in the early begining instead be more interested in buying more from the market. If an exchange decide to manipulate the market by prevent its natural course from happening, than it'll reflect on the market in the future as the project will still dump immediately they lose the backing of the exchange or other whales. The latest market crashed review that irrespective of the dirty games played by the exchange as it was way obvious with the DeFi hype, still the natural course of the market plays out when the time was suitable for it.
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October 25, 2020, 05:00:54 PM |
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I got your point, but one thing is different, the SEC will regulate the stock market stocks but not the cryptocurrencies popping up everyday. When companies get delisted or liquidated the money of the investors is protected and returned to them properly but does this happen in crypto-projects which have been failures? Have any of the scams that happened got the money stolen, returned to the investors? Very few.
That is a fair point, in fact of all the projects that have ended in failure the only ones that I remember giving whatever money they still had were the icos that had an escrow which was independent from the team and that only liberated a part of the funds once certain goals have been reached, this could be a good way to decrease the losses investors could suffer, but obviously many developers and scammers will be against this. A token being listed based on whatever the project may be will never be comparable to mainstream markets because they are having a much bigger funding, fanbase, marketing and market making than any crypto project. Hence the point that most people coming in it are in there for the gains on listing day and not long term holding. Because even they know that the project is a failure in the first place. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) How I wish this was not true but I know that you are right, and while I know the main motivation behind those actions is their greed I wonder why people are still willing to go through that? What I mean is that they are basically gambling with their money with terrible odds and yet it seems as if they are completely blinded to the fact a bad scenario is way more likely than one that is positive, and when we consider they use all their money when investing in those awful coins it becomes clear they cannot afford themselves to lose that money and yet they use it as if that was the case.
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October 25, 2020, 06:31:19 PM |
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Here are some ways you can survive token price launching in the market: 1) Season : Every market has is own luck of launching new prices that will attract more customers to release or hold their coins to their self base of the price. Many investors that sustain are those who really understand the season in the market. 2) holding: long coins holding can also help us to sustain token price because once the supply is low and the demand is high the market must surely change hand. Many investors will be rushing to release their coins on time before the demand will reduce. 3) Information: clear information can make you survive in token price launch. All you need is to check very well where and where the information about that project is coming from before release to market.
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October 25, 2020, 07:25:55 PM |
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Today i request you all to give your inputs on what features should be there in a DEX so that the price of a token does not crash on day of launching and how it can sustain momentum.
It's not in the power of the exchange to prevent this from happening, it has to been the doings of the project developers. They have to make their project very promising that early investors won't have to dump the tokens on the market in the early begining instead be more interested in buying more from the market. If an exchange decide to manipulate the market by prevent its natural course from happening, than it'll reflect on the market in the future as the project will still dump immediately they lose the backing of the exchange or other whales. The latest market crashed review that irrespective of the dirty games played by the exchange as it was way obvious with the DeFi hype, still the natural course of the market plays out when the time was suitable for it. Only projects that actually had the potential will really sustain in the end on where they didnt pull off something in manipulative manner.Investors or supporters arent that blind not to see on what project is really worth to hold on and which is one isnt.Its true that never ever in this market even these platforms are the main places where trade market do happen but theres no way that they can control out when it comes to demand of a certain project.They can manipulate but those are just on temporal basis and once its over then you would see the true support where everyone had already cashed out their tokens and you do see up some recovery after that.
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October 26, 2020, 12:27:00 AM |
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It has come into the moment that new coming projects have less chance to survive, investors had never seen their potentiality. Besides, many of them have taken shortly and become dead after. It comes to the point as well that people are now knowledgeable enough in choosing projects to invest with and it very unfortunate to take look into new projects instead, they are mostly ignored.
DEX exchanges have given it shots already but somehow, it was then ruined up by these new projects. Will, its hopes that the DEX will have to figure it out before listing to their platform before the worst thing to happen.
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October 27, 2020, 08:53:39 AM |
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what features should be there in a DEX so that the price of a token does not crash on day of launching and how it can sustain momentum.
Nothing you can do as a DEX to make sure that doesn't happen, simply because that's not your job to make sure a token that is listed on your "decentralized" exchange doesn't crash and lose its price otherwise you couldn't call your exchange decentralized. If it was a centralized exchange I believe sometimes there are some arrangements to be made between exchange and the token/coin to make sure that the price of the said token or coin would not go lower than a certain price or something like that and that is being done by the exchange by using market makers, and what they do is they usually put huge walls using bots on buy orderbooks to control the price and ensure that no crash or sudden drop in price will happen.
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October 27, 2020, 02:18:34 PM |
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what features should be there in a DEX so that the price of a token does not crash on day of launching and how it can sustain momentum.
It needs a firm strategy that a developers must have to implement before bounty hunters and investors will dump their coin after receiving their rewards. In most case it happen is because their is no strong support from the owner of the project, they let it happens and no wonder why it gonna losses its value. I saw some developers are using other platforms just to control the trading flow and price, some did lock the token for quite long until they'll see the stability of the price trend. But one reason why we gonna expect such downtred motion when a new token had launch is mainly because they are not worthy enough for a better price.
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October 27, 2020, 06:03:09 PM |
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Continuing to pump liquidity, i.e. increasing demand for the currency is the key, whether it is a real demand or by pumping more liquidity with it.
There is nothing more important once you launch your token than trying to maintain that liquidity pool as high as possible, being through making the right partnerships and people trust you project or having a great marketing team that know what they're doing. Without a successful maintenance of this liquidity, pumping won't happen, and you need that for price rise. Generally, if you are not a scammer and your project is well programmed that has a good roadmap, the fluctuations that occur from time to time will not affect the price in the long run.
This second point is just as important as the first. And that is if the project isn't backed up well and people don't see value in it you can artificially pump it all you want it won't sustain that high price no matter what you do. As soon as a few minutes goes past, the dump will follow.
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October 27, 2020, 08:08:15 PM |
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A true bounty hunter shouldn't look behind, there is a bounty and there is a reward for that bounty and when you get the reward your ties with the bounty team is over so you are not responsibility for the price at all.
If the team wants to keep the price higher, they should constantly have some bounties, if others sell there should be more marketing to make more people buy, but if you want to give people money for their work and you also want them to think that it would go super high and should hold it, you have to find someone else then people who are willing to do few hours of work for either almost no money, or potentially a job that won't even pay. This is the reason why I keep saying that the token price launch dump is something regular for every single project and will always happen.
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October 28, 2020, 08:09:38 AM |
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New tokens are often scammed in the crypto market and their demand is lower not able to pump too much due to scam in the case of dex tokens team campaigns need to be better if the group or team shows their tokens in the market well the demand will increase. And if the demand increases it will pump a lot tokens often do not survive because of differences within the group.
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October 30, 2020, 01:51:57 PM |
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what features should be there in a DEX so that the price of a token does not crash on day of launching and how it can sustain momentum.
Nothing you can do as a DEX to make sure that doesn't happen, simply because that's not your job to make sure a token that is listed on your "decentralized" exchange doesn't crash and lose its price otherwise you couldn't call your exchange decentralized. If it was a centralized exchange I believe sometimes there are some arrangements to be made between exchange and the token/coin to make sure that the price of the said token or coin would not go lower than a certain price or something like that and that is being done by the exchange by using market makers, and what they do is they usually put huge walls using bots on buy orderbooks to control the price and ensure that no crash or sudden drop in price will happen. Even in a centralized exchange there is nothing to do, if there is no demand for a token then that token is going to go down, for example there have been exchanges being accused of faking their volume and how people know this is the case? When the volume of the exchange is high but when you put your order there it stays for days without begin fulfilled despite the fact that the price of the coin went below your level and you see a lot of orders begin fulfilled at that price. Also a CEX is not going to waste their time with such things as it is better for them that a coin crashes all the way to zero and make their investors lose a lot of money because if they were using leverage the exchange gets to charge them additional money, so for all of those that want to survive a coin at launch then do not invest in any coin at launch.
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October 30, 2020, 02:47:08 PM |
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This is the reason why I keep saying that the token price launch dump is something regular for every single project and will always happen.
Honestly I will not go for dumping my bounty rewards if the project is still seeming like having good potential and the devs are keeping their promises with respect to road map and other updates. Only when people are not finding enough reasons to hold, they go for dumping right away once the coin/token hits exchanges. I mean launch-dump may not be a regular thing but we got used to it just because of many scamming devs which pushes investors and bounty hunters need to compete themselves to book profits before someone else will do. for all of those that want to survive a coin at launch then do not invest in any coin at launch.
You mean they must wait for the dumping to happen and then must try to catch the lowest possible price levels? Because, if you're not going to invest at launch then you may need to wait for dumping to happen and the problem is, you cannot assume what will be the exact low to enter. Most times, you may face to catch the falling knife ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) .
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October 30, 2020, 06:16:16 PM |
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When the volume of the exchange is high but when you put your order there it stays for days without begin fulfilled despite the fact that the price of the coin went below your level and you see a lot of orders begin fulfilled at that price.
Exactly, that's how you can easily find out they have fake volume in their exchange, when you put orders on their exchange that do not match any orders in the sell and buy orderbooks your order is going to be stuck for a very long time until the orderbook prices changes and get to your order price. Also a CEX is not going to waste their time with such things as it is better for them that a coin crashes all the way to zero and make their investors lose a lot of money because if they were using leverage the exchange gets to charge them additional money, so for all of those that want to survive a coin at launch then do not invest in any coin at launch.
Well it really depends on which exchanges we're talking about, but I know for a fact that if there is good money for them many exchanges have very big market makers that can move the price of a specific toke/coin up or even down literally whenever they want and you can be sure that they can easily liquidate those high leverage traders as well while doing so, it is kind of a more advanced way of increasing volume and price comparing to those trading competitions that various exchanges have from time to time and reward traders based on their trading volume.
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October 30, 2020, 07:35:14 PM |
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A true bounty hunter shouldn't look behind, there is a bounty and there is a reward for that bounty and when you get the reward your ties with the bounty team is over so you are not responsibility for the price at all.
If the team wants to keep the price higher, they should constantly have some bounties, if others sell there should be more marketing to make more people buy, but if you want to give people money for their work and you also want them to think that it would go super high and should hold it, you have to find someone else then people who are willing to do few hours of work for either almost no money, or potentially a job that won't even pay. This is the reason why I keep saying that the token price launch dump is something regular for every single project and will always happen.
You are believing on a different manner where theres no need for something like making more bounties or marketing to make the price higher.If they had done bounties or some sort of exposure then that would be enough. Success lies with the project relevance itself even though you had done the minimal of advertising but you do still able to get that attention due to your project relevance then that what matter most.Its not something depend on how much the team spend up on bounties yet they don't even know on what would be the price for their project to reach on.
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Here are some ways you can survive token price launching in the market: 1) Season : Every market has is own luck of launching new prices that will attract more customers to release or hold their coins to their self base of the price. Many investors that sustain are those who really understand the season in the market.
I would add that token trading should be launched on the right month and on the right day. Sometimes the developers of the top-rated coins report very good news, for example, about blockchain technology improvements or about migration to the new advanced protocol, etc. At this time most traders start pumping these highly capitalized cryptocurrencies, so some investors with " weak hands" can decide to sell a large part of their tokens on the DEX in order to buy well-known coins. As a result, the price of the launched token may crash. But such a dump won't happen if the project is credible and managed by a professional and trusted team, because other traders are likely to buy these cheap tokens as soon as possible. To be honest, it is weird if the price of a token listed on the DEX is regulated by a third party.
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How I wish this was not true but I know that you are right, and while I know the main motivation behind those actions is their greed I wonder why people are still willing to go through that? What I mean is that they are basically gambling with their money with terrible odds and yet it seems as if they are completely blinded to the fact a bad scenario is way more likely than one that is positive, and when we consider they use all their money when investing in those awful coins it becomes clear they cannot afford themselves to lose that money and yet they use it as if that was the case.
The point is that there are risk takers and this becomes gambling to some extent, investing that is, not trading. With these shady tokens and no legally bound securities it is always going to be failures and looking for a profitable project would be like looking for a needle in a haystack. Thus what I always suggest people is that buy bitcoin because it is the only thing that matters. None of the other projects need your money, they already got enough. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Some may differ with this statement but they will also learn their mistake with time.
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November 02, 2020, 03:33:58 PM |
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such a dump won't happen if the project is credible and managed by a professional and trusted team, because other traders are likely to buy these cheap tokens as soon as possible.
Unfortunately most people are not ready to analyse about the credibility of the project nor about the professionalism of dev team. They simply contribute into ICO/crowdsale/IEO and then simply waiting for listing so that they will cash out at first place regardless of the future of that project. To be honest, it is weird if the price of a token listed on the DEX is regulated by a third party.
Kind of manipulation is mandatory in all type of exchanges so that you can get rid of those dumpers. If you look for traders and investors who will naturally keep your coin/token pumping, then you will get disappointed in the end because unless otherwise you are not pumping then no one will be interested in your token because for traders and investors there are a lot of other options are available to trade/invest with.
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November 02, 2020, 09:24:22 PM |
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I have been involved with few projects now and I have been checking them all out on their launch date and unfortunately there is almost none that survives this for a while.
However coins that actually have a long term projection for what they want to be just continues to grind. Maybe the first month of every coin is the thing we should look at? Why must we think about surviving? Maybe we should not care at all, just get in, do whatever you want and get out? Almost all of them ends up doing something like an airdrop or a bounty or something like that and in the end they do not make too much noise, even if they do they just gave away millions of coins to people, and when half of those people sell the price plummets so it is something expected and not shocking to anyone.
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November 02, 2020, 09:47:38 PM |
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Continuing to pump liquidity, i.e. increasing demand for the currency is the key, whether it is a real demand or by pumping more liquidity with it.
There is nothing more important once you launch your token than trying to maintain that liquidity pool as high as possible, being through making the right partnerships and people trust you project or having a great marketing team that know what they're doing. Without a successful maintenance of this liquidity, pumping won't happen, and you need that for price rise. Generally, if you are not a scammer and your project is well programmed that has a good roadmap, the fluctuations that occur from time to time will not affect the price in the long run.
This second point is just as important as the first. And that is if the project isn't backed up well and people don't see value in it you can artificially pump it all you want it won't sustain that high price no matter what you do. As soon as a few minutes goes past, the dump will follow. Mentioned factors are indeed the best ones when it comes on sustaining the price.It all matters with the projects true relevance and usage on where people do see its important which you can somewhat assure that price wont really go down to the floor since there would be people who would definitely support it out but of course that will be always be the main or biggest problem of most projects on how they would really get peoples trust and support.So its first matter on project relevance. Next, is on marketing and making out some hype in addition to projects potential.This do really play a great role yet you are making out awareness of your projects existence.If you do miss out on doing that then you cant attain such level of attention.In result? no so much support where in result to less liquidity. Survival is something that should be considered but there are variables which cant really be controlled thats why it do need effort for you to achieved it.
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November 03, 2020, 10:37:44 AM |
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I have been involved with few projects now and I have been checking them all out on their launch date and unfortunately there is almost none that survives this for a while.
However coins that actually have a long term projection for what they want to be just continues to grind. Maybe the first month of every coin is the thing we should look at? Why must we think about surviving? Maybe we should not care at all, just get in, do whatever you want and get out? Almost all of them ends up doing something like an airdrop or a bounty or something like that and in the end they do not make too much noise, even if they do they just gave away millions of coins to people, and when half of those people sell the price plummets so it is something expected and not shocking to anyone.
I believe it's mostly because the price that they set for their token/coin at ICO stage is not realistic at all in the current market condition which can be brutal for new projects of course assuming it's a good project and not just some random shitcoin with the exact same idea and more or less same whitepaper than 10 other previous projects, I don't know why these projects are so insistent on setting higher price for their tokens/coins knowing that if the price is not suitable for their coin it will go down in price very quickly after listing on exchange(will go down to the real price), it's not rocket science either it's just supply and demand and obviously if you have a new project with no use case yet that has the price of 1$ per token while the supply is at 1 billion or more you most definitely should expect a huge dump in price after listing.
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