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February 29, 2024, 02:15:59 PM
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See the thing is not everything is dependent on the US , most countries are certainly capable of taking care of themselves, even though the US dollar is one of the most important asset in the world but we cannot really rely on anything right at that moment since coronavirus have shifted the economy in ways that we cannot reset. People have already sold their assets and are investing in cryptocurrencies. People are already okay with the fact that US is not the superpower anymore, therefore I do believe that in the future maybe some other countries will take over , since right now it's about surviving, keeping the economy stable and people safe , US economy going down is the least of the worries we should have , rather think about the underdeveloped countries which were struggling from way before.

The US dollar is the strength of almost every country,and right now we can't fully rely on it for economical survival due to  some
economical factors on ground.The US economy is shaky right now and that's why people are looking for better options like cryptocurrencies.
 Whether USA remains the superpower or not we can still opt out to better alternatives and choices to cope with as human beings.

I don't think i have a problem with France holding the superpower,and there are several countries that wants to be recognized as the world's superpower but whichever case as it may be,there should be a smooth running of the global markets,leading to a significant difference in the economic system at large.

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March 01, 2024, 06:24:32 PM
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The US dollar is the strength of almost every country,and right now we can't fully rely on it for economical survival due to  some
economical factors on ground.The US economy is shaky right now and that's why people are looking for better options like cryptocurrencies.
 Whether USA remains the superpower or not we can still opt out to better alternatives and choices to cope with as human beings.

I don't think i have a problem with France holding the superpower,and there are several countries that wants to be recognized as the world's superpower but whichever case as it may be,there should be a smooth running of the global markets,leading to a significant difference in the economic system at large.

The only way there would be a "smooth running of the global markets" is if geopolitical tensions and wars come down to a halt. And I don't see that happening anytime soon. Until Russia stops its invasion of Ukraine, and the Israel-Hamas conflict comes to an end, things will only get worse. The US has been showing signs of weakness for quite some time now. I believe the Biden administration has been the worse by far in its handling of foreign policy, the economy, and domestic issues.

One would hope a change in leadership would make the US stronger in the long run. Otherwise, we can say bye-bye to the US as the world's leading superpower. Its replacement could be either China, Russia, or the EU itself (in which France is gaining traction). We're living in uncertain times, so lets hope for the best. Smiley

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March 02, 2024, 11:35:18 AM
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Well, more than 3 years later, we can analyse the op's wild allegation. The USA is still number one economically and politically, although it's losing some ground politically, I believe, as we're moving towards a multipolar world. Economically, China is still #2, and still has a pretty long way to go to beat the US, not to mention that there seem to be some economic struggles that are just starting for China. France is a little over 10% of what the US has, so it's just ridiculous to say that it can beat the US economically. Russia and France are in pretty bad relations, probably the worst over a long time, because of the full-scale invasion of Russia into Ukraine.
We can agree that the US is now gradually losing its long-standing position as a world leader and that the Biden administration is doing a much worse job on foreign policy. Biden has proven hesitant about US assistance to Ukraine in defending itself against Russian aggression. In addition, the confrontation between Biden and Trump in the election campaign led to the delay of current military assistance to Ukraine through its blocking by Trumpists in Congress, and this makes the United States appear to be an unreliable ally in the eyes of other states.

At the same time, French President Emmanuel Macron gave a press conference on February 25 following the results of the Conference in support of Ukraine and during the conversation he admitted the possibility of introducing NATO troops into Ukraine to help Ukraine repel a Russian attack. Later, he also added that his position regarding the possibility of introducing Western troops into Ukraine is balanced and thoughtful.
https://24tv.ua/ru/makron-zajavil-o-vozmozhnosti-vvoda-vojsk-nato-ukrainu-objasnil_n2505243

Against the backdrop of US indecision, this raises the authority of France, especially since the Netherlands, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia and Canada supported him in this.
https://informator.ua/ru/pyat-stran-nato-dopuskayut-otpravku-svoih-voennyh-v-ukrainu-no-est-uslovie

But France is still very far from becoming world leader.

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March 02, 2024, 12:57:50 PM
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At the same time, French President Emmanuel Macron gave a press conference on February 25 following the results of the Conference in support of Ukraine and during the conversation he admitted the possibility of introducing NATO troops into Ukraine to help Ukraine repel a Russian attack.
I don't follow this closely but didn't all NATO members already say this was a lie and they had no plans on deploying any troops in Ukraine?

In any case neither France has what it takes to be taken seriously as a power on a global scale nor Macron has the capability or the charisma to lead the country into such a state. Not to mention that US will not allow them to grow in strength Wink

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At the same time, French President Emmanuel Macron gave a press conference on February 25 following the results of the Conference in support of Ukraine and during the conversation he admitted the possibility of introducing NATO troops into Ukraine to help Ukraine repel a Russian attack.
I don't follow this closely but didn't all NATO members already say this was a lie and they had no plans on deploying any troops in Ukraine?

In any case neither France has what it takes to be taken seriously as a power on a global scale nor Macron has the capability or the charisma to lead the country into such a state. Not to mention that US will not allow them to grow in strength Wink
What does it mean that the US does not allow France to increase its military power? This is exactly what is welcomed among NATO members. On the contrary, a scandal recently erupted in the United States when Trump said that many NATO members in Europe do not allocate two percent of their GDP to defense needs, hoping for US assistance in the event of a military threat.

In addition, the French Parliament on Thursday, March 14, approved a multi-billion dollar increase in military spending over the next 7 years against the backdrop of Russia's invasion of Ukraine. The draft military programming law, which includes 413 billion euros in spending for 2024-2030, received final approval from the National Assembly, the lower house of parliament, on Wednesday by a vote of 244 to 37.
  President Emmanuel Macron has pushed to increase the military budget to 413 billion euros, the biggest increase in spending in half a century. The new budget is more than a third higher than the previous military spending plan of 295 billion euros for 2019-2025.
Do you think that in this case France received consent to increase its military budget from the United States?
https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/rus/news/2023/07/13/7165723/

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At the same time, French President Emmanuel Macron gave a press conference on February 25 following the results of the Conference in support of Ukraine and during the conversation he admitted the possibility of introducing NATO troops into Ukraine to help Ukraine repel a Russian attack.
I don't follow this closely but didn't all NATO members already say this was a lie and they had no plans on deploying any troops in Ukraine?

In any case neither France has what it takes to be taken seriously as a power on a global scale nor Macron has the capability or the charisma to lead the country into such a state. Not to mention that US will not allow them to grow in strength Wink
What does it mean that the US does not allow France to increase its military power? This is exactly what is welcomed among NATO members. On the contrary, a scandal recently erupted in the United States when Trump said that many NATO members in Europe do not allocate two percent of their GDP to defense needs, hoping for US assistance in the event of a military threat.

In addition, the French Parliament on Thursday, March 14, approved a multi-billion dollar increase in military spending over the next 7 years against the backdrop of Russia's invasion of Ukraine. The draft military programming law, which includes 413 billion euros in spending for 2024-2030, received final approval from the National Assembly, the lower house of parliament, on Wednesday by a vote of 244 to 37.
  President Emmanuel Macron has pushed to increase the military budget to 413 billion euros, the biggest increase in spending in half a century. The new budget is more than a third higher than the previous military spending plan of 295 billion euros for 2019-2025.
Do you think that in this case France received consent to increase its military budget from the United States?
https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/rus/news/2023/07/13/7165723/


I allmost ignored but when. I look at news macron and russia head lines.... I see now that OP predicted something here and we see now france are very active in this situation
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May 02, 2024, 08:12:49 PM
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The only way there would be a "smooth running of the global markets" is if geopolitical tensions and wars come down to a halt. And I don't see that happening anytime soon. Until Russia stops its invasion of Ukraine, and the Israel-Hamas conflict comes to an end, things will only get worse.

These are not the only conflicts in the world as of the moment.

These might be the biggest ones right now but our world is full of nations in conflict with each other. I feel like all nations have an enemy or two at least. Some countries are not exactly violent with each other (just yet) but there are lots of tensions among different continents. If one should break out into a war we would all be in trouble.









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May 02, 2024, 09:31:03 PM
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The only way there would be a "smooth running of the global markets" is if geopolitical tensions and wars come down to a halt. And I don't see that happening anytime soon. Until Russia stops its invasion of Ukraine, and the Israel-Hamas conflict comes to an end, things will only get worse.

These are not the only conflicts in the world as of the moment.

These might be the biggest ones right now but our world is full of nations in conflict with each other. I feel like all nations have an enemy or two at least. Some countries are not exactly violent with each other (just yet) but there are lots of tensions among different continents. If one should break out into a war we would all be in trouble.

War are actually good for economy and they are needed to have a rapid shift on geopolitical balance.
I don't see US losing its economic and military power anytime soon. Or France taking over. Or Russia or China. France had been a US puppet for quite a time and they are too depended on US. They are in words trying to get on their feet but I don't see that happening anytime soon. And as they try to decouple with US, their economy would suffer further.
Another reason why Europe can not challenge US anytime soon is geography. US if controlled the limited border, is geographically isolated by Atlantic and Pacific oceans, don't have a potent nation by its side to threaten it while Europe is a hotpot of conflicting nations which would have an eternal conflict one way or other.



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May 03, 2024, 03:28:16 PM
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War are actually good for economy and they are needed to have a rapid shift on geopolitical balance.
I don't see US losing its economic and military power anytime soon. Or France taking over. Or Russia or China. France had been a US puppet for quite a time and they are too depended on US. They are in words trying to get on their feet but I don't see that happening anytime soon. And as they try to decouple with US, their economy would suffer further.
Another reason why Europe can not challenge US anytime soon is geography. US if controlled the limited border, is geographically isolated by Atlantic and Pacific oceans, don't have a potent nation by its side to threaten it while Europe is a hotpot of conflicting nations which would have an eternal conflict one way or other.

All good things come to an end. The US hegemony can't last forever. Empires like Babylon, Rome, and Greek saw their demise centuries ago. American decline is right before our eyes. It's just a slow process that will take years to complete. "De-dollarization" by some countries is just the start.

Europe would be better off distancing itself from the US for its own good. Either way, there's no denying that a US downfall will affect the global economy. One can only hope China nor Russia become part of the New World Order. Who knows what the future will bring?  Undecided

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May 09, 2024, 12:29:36 PM
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War are actually good for economy and they are needed to have a rapid shift on geopolitical balance.
I don't see US losing its economic and military power anytime soon. Or France taking over. Or Russia or China. France had been a US puppet for quite a time and they are too depended on US. They are in words trying to get on their feet but I don't see that happening anytime soon. And as they try to decouple with US, their economy would suffer further.
Another reason why Europe can not challenge US anytime soon is geography. US if controlled the limited border, is geographically isolated by Atlantic and Pacific oceans, don't have a potent nation by its side to threaten it while Europe is a hotpot of conflicting nations which would have an eternal conflict one way or other.

All good things come to an end. The US hegemony can't last forever. Empires like Babylon, Rome, and Greek saw their demise centuries ago. American decline is right before our eyes. It's just a slow process that will take years to complete. "De-dollarization" by some countries is just the start.

Europe would be better off distancing itself from the US for its own good. Either way, there's no denying that a US downfall will affect the global economy. One can only hope China nor Russia become part of the New World Order. Who knows what the future will bring?  Undecided


If we look latest news and hesdlines we can see france is active on this.
I been watching op predictions i have to ask what op knows what we don't know ? If op shares more we can become smart Smiley
Because Op Also said biden Will win and also said about Market bull run exacly time 100% accurate.
I start think that op has access to better info
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May 10, 2024, 02:59:53 PM
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If we look latest news and hesdlines we can see france is active on this.
France isn't "active" in anything. They are just being kicked out of Africa and losing $500 billion dollar that they were earning every day by enslaving Africans. Since Russia is one of the actors helping Africa kick France out, they are trying to increase the pressure on Russia inside Ukraine to try to strike a deal over Africa and get back some of their colonies and continue robbing Africa.

Otherwise French military is weaker than what they pretend. Cheesy

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May 11, 2024, 12:58:28 AM
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While I do not know so much about France’s current position in regard to this, I want to mention that overthrowing USA is a lot and it’s more than just having the biggest military force. I do not think they have attained it but nonetheless, USA is more than just that. The name alone has an impact of being seen as the leader of the world. You can’t just throw them under the bus so easily.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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May 12, 2024, 07:25:51 AM
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Honestly, every nation in the world that became the biggest eventually ended up going lower and lower and eventually not be that great. However, that doesn't happen within one lifetime span usually, it usually takes a lot longer, centuries. So, could we see USA becoming smaller in our life time? Is that just so happens to hit right now when we are alive? Or will it be another 200 years later?

I have absolutely no idea and can't know. I do agree that eventually one day in the future it will happen but I have no idea if that is in 20 years or 200 years which is why I wouldn't really hold my breath and expect them to get worse. I think the clearest situation here is the fact that we are going to end up seeing things change with time, and other nations just get more leverage over USA.

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May 12, 2024, 08:48:20 PM
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Honestly, every nation in the world that became the biggest eventually ended up going lower and lower and eventually not be that great. However, that doesn't happen within one lifetime span usually, it usually takes a lot longer, centuries. So, could we see USA becoming smaller in our life time? Is that just so happens to hit right now when we are alive? Or will it be another 200 years later?

I have absolutely no idea and can't know. I do agree that eventually one day in the future it will happen but I have no idea if that is in 20 years or 200 years which is why I wouldn't really hold my breath and expect them to get worse. I think the clearest situation here is the fact that we are going to end up seeing things change with time, and other nations just get more leverage over USA.
This is what I agree with as well, we are seeing that most nations are getting weaker, which is the power that USA has right now, if there was another nation that got super stronger while USA was getting worse, then we would definitely see that nation take over, but when you look at it every nation is getting worse and we should probably see USA getting worse while keeping that number one spot, I know that seems like not a likely thing in most parts of history but that is what we are seeing today.

This is why I agree that it may take decades, even centuries before anything else happens. Look at all the world powers in the world, none of them looks like they could rival USA at all turns, sure maybe better at some things, but be the power status that USA has.

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