Trump has Coronavirus :(

[franky1]

couple points to make
1. american leader has it. and cant even be bothered to actually stay self isolated for a whole 7 days
https://www.youtube.com/embed/iu7_05tVfHM?start=41&end=73
yep. they say this 5 minute car journey now means his entourage is supose to now self isolate away from their own families for 14 days.
(whether they do or dont is one thing. but he couldnt even wait a few extra days before risking them)

2. UK leader had it months ago. so chances of getting it again so soon is lower. and while he gets temperature tested to be able to open a door to a BBC news studio. his entourage who have not had it yet to be at low risk, dont wait and then get temperature checked to gain entry individually. as meant to happen. but they rush through the door trying to slip passed the temperature sensor before the door closes.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/oJYtLBWLmt4?start=161&end=173
thus if one of the entourage did have it. they can now pass it to others within the BBC building.

kind of hard for people to follow rules if the leaders themselves are not following the rules the leaders set people to follow

[Spendulus]

....appointing pence to run as president and his daughter as the vp.

I could actually vote for that ticket.

I'd see that as a strong ticket, but with two relatively unknown persons. However, "two relatively unknown" on a ticket is what the Dems should have done this time around. They didn't and have two with known issues.

But from the point of view of identity politics, Ivanka wouldn't qualify...

yeah I know. But I have seen first hand what the covid does. At best Trump won’t be good to go for a month.

Forget the show being put on. It is a strong set back for two- four weeks for most people over 65.

So if he gets out in two or three days and runs around like he is okay I will be impressed.

I'm sorry for what you went through. I expect sooner or later to get it, likely everyone will. It may be a mild or a severe case, who knows. Yeah, forget the show being put on. Hope he gets better and lucked out with a mild case. Maybe people will interpret that as he's really strong, but the mechanics of virus don't work that way.

[BADecker]

Trump having Coronavirus is a much bigger triumph than...

Coronavirus having Trump!

 

[PonziSkeem]

....appointing pence to run as president and his daughter as the vp.

I could actually vote for that ticket.

I'd see that as a strong ticket, but with two relatively unknown persons. However, "two relatively unknown" on a ticket is what the Dems should have done this time around. They didn't and have two with known issues.

But from the point of view of identity politics, Ivanka wouldn't qualify...

So if he gets out in two or three days and runs around like he is okay I will be impressed.

Called it.... at least the two/three days part. It's hard not to be cynical when this man goes for a joyride and then the very next day is allowed to go home.

[elisabetheva]

....appointing pence to run as president and his daughter as the vp.

I could actually vote for that ticket.

I'd see that as a strong ticket, but with two relatively unknown persons. However, "two relatively unknown" on a ticket is what the Dems should have done this time around. They didn't and have two with known issues.

But from the point of view of identity politics, Ivanka wouldn't qualify...

So if he gets out in two or three days and runs around like he is okay I will be impressed.

Called it.... at least the two/three days part. It's hard not to be cynical when this man goes for a joyride and then the very next day is allowed to go home.

is there any guarantee that he will be able to do this if he is hit by covid-19? because the standard is clear that after experiencing healing after 14 days, there will be another 14 days of self-isolation.
what does it mean if he can walk and come home the next day !!! There are things that need to be questioned when something like this happens, and this is certainly something strange and unusual that should happen.

[squatz1]

Little update here, not sure if it's been chatted about yet. Though I expect it has been:

Donald Trump has been discharged from the hospital and has returned to the White House today. There are some conflicting reports regarding what the medical staff was advising him to do, some are saying that Walter Reed medical staff wanted him to say there and others are saying that he is totally fine to be discharged. I'm going to assume that he is still contagious at this time, and he is also (not assuming here) still going to be under the care of the WH medical staff.

Hopefully President Trump is okay and he makes a full and speedy recover. Tough thing to get as a 72 year old overweight person who may have other underlying conditions. I pray that him and the members of his staff that tested positive have a speedy recovery as well.

https://www.axios.com/trump-coronavirus-leaves-hospital-white-house-06eac9f3-93fd-435a-9ab8-f403e216a65c.html

[nutildah]

The hatred in this thread and elsewhere on social media is disgusting, and should be condemned in the strongest way possible.

The appropriate reaction to this is to wish the Trump family a quick recovery.

Hopefully President Trump is okay and he makes a full and speedy recover. Tough thing to get as a 72 year old overweight person who may have other underlying conditions. I pray that him and the members of his staff that tested positive have a speedy recovery as well.

That's nice of you to say. And I mean that sincerely. After all the shit he talked about Hillary being sick, and basically all the ill will he's wished upon millions of Americans (and millions more around the world) over the years, I honestly can't find any compassion in my soul to spare for him. But I'm glad that you can.

[squatz1]

The hatred in this thread and elsewhere on social media is disgusting, and should be condemned in the strongest way possible.

The appropriate reaction to this is to wish the Trump family a quick recovery.

Hopefully President Trump is okay and he makes a full and speedy recover. Tough thing to get as a 72 year old overweight person who may have other underlying conditions. I pray that him and the members of his staff that tested positive have a speedy recovery as well.

That's nice of you to say. And I mean that sincerely. After all the shit he talked about Hillary being sick, and basically all the ill will he's wished upon millions of Americans (and millions more around the world) over the years, I honestly can't find any compassion in my soul to spare for him. But I'm glad that you can.

??

I'd be able to find this compassion for Clinton as well.

Trump seems to be doing good from COVID. Very hard to know given the fact that he was being given a steroid and such. There hasn't been that much credible information coming out of the WH, which is a major issue given the fact that we really do like to have some transparency when there is succession on the line.

[Naida_BR]

Trump is out and not in quarantine which is very dangerous that he is going to infect more people.
He released a video a couple of hours ago saying that he got a medicine which made him feel healthy and that the US has a ton of this medicine. This doesn't mean that his body is clear from the virus and he will not infect more people...

[Spendulus]

Trump is out and not in quarantine which is very dangerous that he is going to infect more people.
He released a video a couple of hours ago saying that he got a medicine which made him feel healthy and that the US has a ton of this medicine. This doesn't mean that his body is clear from the virus and he will not infect more people...

So he's about in the same condition as 7 million other Americans?

[samputin]

Trump is out and not in quarantine which is very dangerous that he is going to infect more people.
He released a video a couple of hours ago saying that he got a medicine which made him feel healthy and that the US has a ton of this medicine. This doesn't mean that his body is clear from the virus and he will not infect more people...

Well, from the news on the previous day Trump wasn't allowed to be discharged yet but still went back to the White House. I think he still has the virus even though he says he's doing just fine. I personally believe that he went back immediately to the White House because he wants to do some campaigning. But of course, with that, more people would be infected if not careful.

[BADecker]

Trump is out and not in quarantine which is very dangerous that he is going to infect more people.
He released a video a couple of hours ago saying that he got a medicine which made him feel healthy and that the US has a ton of this medicine. This doesn't mean that his body is clear from the virus and he will not infect more people...

So he's about in the same condition as 7 million other Americans?

"The same condition as those 7 million," is mild symptoms. The rest of the people never had the symptoms, even though we all have Covid, since it was around the world already last year.

[franky1]

gotta love it.
trump via twitter and his doctors broadcast trump is doing great and has no symptoms and feels like he is 18 years younger
..
but
here is trump just yesterday coughing multiple times on a call
https://youtu.be/Lz_EHUgyVDI?t=76

[BADecker]

^^^ Gotta love it. franky1 thinks that Trump never got a cold 18 years ago. Lol.

[Spendulus]

Trump is out and not in quarantine which is very dangerous that he is going to infect more people.
He released a video a couple of hours ago saying that he got a medicine which made him feel healthy and that the US has a ton of this medicine. This doesn't mean that his body is clear from the virus and he will not infect more people...

Well, from the news on the previous day Trump wasn't allowed to be discharged yet but still went back to the White House. I think he still has the virus even though he says he's doing just fine. I personally believe that he went back immediately to the White House because he wants to do some campaigning. But of course, with that, more people would be infected if not careful.

I've personally seen a number of times where one person in a household caught a bad flu, and others had a mild case.

So what? Why read too much into it? He had a mild case of it, enough said.

Now we don't need to worry about Trump catching the virus. He's already had it.

[otto2012]

Trump would never admit that the virus is too dangerous because this would discredit all his prior frivolous statements on it. He's way too megalomaniac for that. He is obviously sick but we'll never know how bad it is for him. This man will be putting a brave face on a sorry business even in the teeth of death.

[BADecker]

Trump doesn't have Covid. The CDC even admits (since July) that they haven't isolated the virus. So, nobody even knows that it exists. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281098.msg55348172#msg55348172.

[franky1]

badeckers previous post got debunked.

funny part is
trump says he is 'free' because he has not had medication for 8 hours
um..
most people take medication in the morning. that does not mean they are 100% cured by the afternoon
remember he was still coughing yesterday and taking medication this morning. so doesnt sound free of the virus to me

..
i think trump took a single lesson of spin class(exercise bike) and thought because he could turn the peddles. he is now an expert at spin(twisting words)
sorry trump but we can easily untwist your words.. but please do try that exercise bike a few more times

[BADecker]

^^^ Talked too soon. Your debunking got debunked.

Trump isn't a medical specialist. He simply listens to medical specialists who don't look far enough into it to see that viruses are really expelled exosomes. You can't expect him to know what he is talking about when he mimics them.

It's a good thing that doctors have used trial and error. If they depended completely on virus isolation, they would fail miserably.

[franky1]

your weird obsession to repeat 'its not been isolated' is where you are quoting kaufman that wrote something in march-april.. about silly things he read in january..

when you can atleast understand its october now.
and then when you can stop just reading kaufman 20 times a day but the actual research he mis-represents and misunderstands. and then look at the actual research that occured after january. you will see why you have been wrong so many times and for such a long time

an exosome is like a golf ball shape and is under 100nm. covid is a spikey ball and is 150nm.
using the same scale thats like comparing a hedgehog to a hampster.
i know you dont understand the biological differences but there are many differences.

there is 10 months of research available for free everywhere. made by many countries. your ignorance to it and your obsession to only want to re-read one person that is not  virologist shows that you are not making any valid points

maybe actually try to do some research, find the actual facts. then maybe you wont be endlessly called an ignorant stupid troll