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Like my title, what is the covid-19 virus vaccine if there would be any for? When the virus was at its infancy stage of mass world wide acknowledgement there was tension, chaos some country heads not giving-in into lockdown and got lashed for it. But months gone and it SEEMS like the virus potency has gone down. Not too long the gaffer of London club west ham David moyes tested positive to the virus, and he is an elderly man, but yesterday he was clear to be in the dug out, controlling the team again.
Again I ask what is the vaccine for when + There is still an unclear part of the virus transmission + People strolling into the virus isolation and strolling out.
We are the vaccine + We not panicking. + We living healthy life at all ages + We knowing we need to work to be able to provide essential to lead a healthy lifestyle
You can get harm by panicking to media, living unhealthy, hunger/poverty faster than the covid-19 virus.
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October 02, 2020, 01:00:30 PM |
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Come on - you know its purpose.
Actually there are two. One is to suck more money away from the tax payers and give it to the elite dynasties. The other is to reduce fertility and to create dependence on pharmaceuticals to preserve the new sub-normal lives that are being created.
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October 02, 2020, 03:51:31 PM |
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The vaccine is meant for people who have not been infected, especially in the danger groups (elderly, those with respiratory issues, etc). While a few countries have "big pharma" making money, most other countries either decree a state of health emergency or just ignore/don't accept drug patents. They'll copy them, be it Russian, Chinese, Indian, American or from anywhere else as long as it works and can be reproduced.
Since the first vaccine was (accidentally) discovered, they have saved millions of lives. They do have a place and are not placebo. Smallpox was eradicated completely (not sure that was good, tho they kept the vaccine). Its not snake oil...
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There are many nano-metal particles of different kinds in the vaccines. The vaccine makers have admitted that these are there. But they won't say why, or how they were made. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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October 02, 2020, 05:11:13 PM |
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Arrival of vaccine for the public usage is expected to be at the end of first quarter, at least in my country as per the politicians say.Surely the panic created by media about the corona virus dropped a lot but the infections aren't really dropped a lot.
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October 03, 2020, 06:49:16 PM |
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Arrival of vaccine for the public usage is expected to be at the end of first quarter, at least in my country as per the politicians say.Surely the panic created by media about the corona virus dropped a lot but the infections aren't really dropped a lot.
The infections are called "cases" in the medical. It turns out that almost all the cases are people who are NOT sick. It also turns out that the cases are determined by the PCR test. This test simply multiplies any virus that is searched for by the testers. If a person has a measels virus, or a chicken pox virus, or a swine flu virus, or any other virus, and such virus is the one that is tested for, that person will have a case of that virus. In other words, all PCR tested people that are positive for Covid, are also positive for whatever other virus is found in them... even if they aren't sick at all. People are full of various kinds viruses, since there are millions of kinds of viruses floating around in the air all the time, and people are breathing them in all the time. This means that the world is a place of full-time pandemic for all kinds of things, and always has been for thousands of years. The medical is taking advantage of this... going from one so-called pandemic to another. The viral pandemic is a big fat lie, and the medical is making it look more and more like a lie all the time with their PCR testing. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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October 03, 2020, 08:45:23 PM |
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badecker you are wrong
the PCR test is not a yes or no. the PCR test is a count of how much. this is why there are false negatives because when people have it in the early stage before symptoms and get tested the count is low. so they say its negative. but days later when the virus multiplies it shows that they did have it but the PCR declared it as negative because of low count
those having a low count are those asymptomatic people. the ones with symptoms obviously have an high count which is why they test is very accurate for those. the inaccuracy of a positive test is not in the count. but in the small exceptions where the test viles got cross contaminated in the process. but this sortof thing of 'bad batches' got sorted out months ago. so positive tests of actual symptomatic people is very high accuracy
again if your asymptomatic you probably wont show as positive which is why most testing centres think its a waste of lab time testing asymptomatic people. because they could show as negative one day but then progress into symptoms and be positive the next so it just wasted a good test over for no reason
but one thing is sure. if you have a virus and you have symptoms. the test wil display that. so stop fooling around thinking a measles test will show everyone has measles.. thats not how it works and you have had months and months to find that out. but yet again your ignorance has stopped you.
next time you want to write something. research it using science reports. not conspiracy scripts. you have been linked plenty of them over the last few months. so spend some time actually reading the science reports and less time on conspiracy sites
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October 04, 2020, 12:43:46 AM |
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badecker you are wrong
the PCR test is not a yes or no. the PCR test is a count of how much. this is why there are false negatives because when people have it in the early stage before symptoms and get tested the count is low. so they say its negative. but days later when the virus multiplies it shows that they did have it but the PCR declared it as negative because of low count
Of course PCR isn't a yes or no test. We already know that a test isn't needed to find out that everybody has Covid... and millions of other viruses inside their body. The PCR is a multiplier test. It takes whatever virus you are looking for and multiplies it as many times as you adjust it to multiply them. Now, it would be kinda stupid to multiply the virus to look 10 times as large as the person the virus was taken out of. If you did that, anybody could see that the whole test was fakery. So, what do you do? You multiply the findings, say, about 40 times. This makes it look like the person has pandemic proportions of the virus. If you multiplied it much less, there wouldn't be any reason for a pandemic. And if you multiplied it much more, you would see that the whole PCR was fake. Simple people out there don't understand what you are doing. All they see is that there is enough virus for a pandemic. They don't realize that you CREATED enough virus for a pandemic, using the PCR test. Why Covid? You could do the same with any virus. Look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_virus_species. There are loads of viruses listed there. And there are millions more. Any of these that you can find in a person's body - as long as you can find one virus - can be multiplied in the PCR test to look like a pandemic. Any one of these viruses could be multiplied by the PCR test to make it look like you had a CASE. You could make a pandemic out of any one of these viruses using the PCR test, and a little manipulation. Covid simply happened to be convenient. Forget it, franky1. On the other hand, don't forget it. We want you to earn a living so you don't starve, just like any other person. Do they pay you enough for your paid trolling? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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October 04, 2020, 03:28:07 AM |
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badecker you have no clue
first of all covid has not been around for years to be a thing that everyone already has. i know you want to believe that herd immunity is already a thing but it is not
also people having tests thinking they may have it (wasting time) actually find out they dont have it yep UK for example does ~250,000 tests a day but only finds ~6500 positives
if you do the math of how many people have had it. its only a few percent.. .. why.. because its a novel virus.. yep its new people have not had it before so their immune system is not programmed to recognise it instantly which makes this novel virus a problem.
the whole point of a vaccine is to give people a safer version of the virus that does not replicate but does look like the virus. so that your body sees an invader. attack it safely without being overwhelmed. and then remembers to look out for things similar to it next time
in short you get herd immune by vaccination safely by not having the version that replicates and destroys your cells
and by the way. i dont get income from this thing. my interest is purely in the research/learning/logic the funny thing is your the one trying to sell products to people heck your advertising a big pharma product in your footer
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There are many nano-metal particles of different kinds in the vaccines. The vaccine makers have admitted that these are there. But they won't say why, or how they were made.
Seems most likely to make a person's body a more efficient antenna for absorbing some of the electromagnetic radiation which is all around us. More and more, scientists are starting to murmur this and it is a highly sensitive subject for which the 'scientific' publishing cartel has zero tolerance. Any info about it is censored immediately. This use explains the 1st day Hep-B riddle. This vaccine contains a whopping dose of what is often a nano-particle known as AAHSA (Amorphous Aluminum Hydroxyphosphate Sulfate) which is the right size and has the right properties to be transported into brain cells by macrophages. The medical establishment is very very persistent about getting that injected into every person born on day one of life. Even in the case of premature babies 25% of them will need to be physically resuscitated after the injection so they don't die from it. What is especially interesting is that babies are at zero risk of getting Hepatitis-B unless their mom has it and that is easy to test for. The excuse is that when they hit the streets having unprotected sex and shooting up meth, they won't come in to the clinic for their shots. Even that is a weak argument because the DOI (duration of immunity) means that the immunity has usually worn off by that time the baby has hit the mean streets. A better explanation is that making more people more 'tuned in' to not-so-random electromagnetic 'chatter' makes it more possible to pull off operations such as turning the seasonal common cold into a horrible world-wide pandemic so bad that people WANT to wear masks, face shields, social distance, destroy their economy, and generally set the table for the long planned 'great reset' cooked up by the 'World Economic Forum' (e.g., Rockefeller et-al...which circles right back around to vaccines and vaccine policy.) --- There is a school of thought where even within a complex species such as Homo sapien, there are some sub-species which are the predator class and others who are the prey. The concept is popular with those who found themselves sitting nearer the top of the pyramid, and usually by virtue of their lineage.
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October 05, 2020, 08:12:03 AM |
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What is clear is that the information I received from the news that I read in my country the vaccine was to make the human body's immune system higher so that the body with high immunity would be able to fight Covid-19. so the purpose of the vaccine is not for the purpose of completely curing but to be given to those who are seriously ill because the immune system is not functioning and is defeated by the covid-19 virus, when the vaccine is injected the body itself finally gets strong immunity to help fight the covid-19 virus.
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October 05, 2020, 11:10:48 AM |
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What is clear is that the information I received from the news that I read in my country the vaccine was to make the human body's immune system higher so that the body with high immunity would be able to fight Covid-19. so the purpose of the vaccine is not for the purpose of completely curing but to be given to those who are seriously ill because the immune system is not functioning and is defeated by the covid-19 virus, when the vaccine is injected the body itself finally gets strong immunity to help fight the covid-19 virus.
That is completely NOT the theory of operation behind any vaccine technology be it 'old school' wherein antigens are injected or 'new' wherein genetic code is injected in order to fool your body into making antigens. But that's obviously way way way over your head already. What you are describing is somewhat akin to the idea of boosting one's immune system with substances such as vitamin C. Probably because it could work to a degree, taking enough vitamin C to actually help is widely discouraged by the so-called 'p ublic health' authorities and people who suggest it are 'canceled' from big-tech's social media platforms. It isn't ' almost like' the powers that be have done everything possible policy-wise and propaganda-wise to ensure that 'covid-19' last year's common cold circulates around the globe as widely as possible. It is ' totally like'.
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October 05, 2020, 02:35:56 PM |
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We are the vaccine + We not panicking. + We living healthy life at all ages + We knowing we need to work to be able to provide essential to lead a healthy lifestyle
Unfortunately this is not a vaccine. A healthy lifestyle won't protect you from corona. The idea of a vaccine is to provide immunity against the virus. But we still don't know enough about corona to develop vaccines successfully. It might be another 1-2 years until we find a real vaccine. And we still don't know if a vaccine can provide complete immunity or if we need to get a new vaccine every year like with the flu? And what about the old people in retirement homes who can barely walk anymore. We tell them to just be healthy and everything is going to be alright? Or what about people with medical conditions. How are we going to protect them?
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October 05, 2020, 03:44:46 PM |
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Vaccines are made to fight disease. We cannot be aware of potential hazards in the community. We need to get all economic and social activities back to normal. The importance of vaccines should not be underestimated as there were many other epidemics in the past that caused more deaths than this Covid19 pandemic.
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October 05, 2020, 04:16:55 PM |
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It is vitamin "D" that is the important one. It is the food for the immature memory T-cells. and it allows them to convert into mature cells to generate antibodies. That is why it is madness to keep people out of the sunlight. and fresh air
It is very difficult to infect a healthy person with a virus. The human immune system has so many barriers and weapons to protect us. This is why the global eugenics sponsors like Bill Gates need to use vaccines, and other products to mess up out defences. He learnt the art with Windows computers, and now he is using his skills to take control of our health.
Have a look at the best possible success rates projected for vaccines, and compare those with the success of a healthy life style. It's no wonder that they are concerned that healthy people don't need pharmaceuticals.
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October 05, 2020, 07:29:30 PM |
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the gaffer of London club west ham David moyes tested positive to the virus, and he is an elderly man, but yesterday he was clear to be in the dug out, controlling the team again.
I don't think you can use one person as an example of a general trend. There are many people of that age and older who have died. And Moyes is not elderly anyway really, more middle-aged. We knowing we need to work to be able to provide essential to lead a healthy lifestyle
The cause of the problem is the government's irresponsible short-termism, coupled with the fact that they are only interested in keeping the economy going, and couldn't care less how many people die. What they should have done is bring in quarantine at national borders as soon as this thing started spreading beyond China. Result - brief minor economic hit, no global pandemic, no huge death toll, no lockdowns. Instead they weren't willing to take even minor economic damage, hoped everything would carry on as normal, and then reacted too late, leading to huge deaths, lockdowns, and the massive economic damage they had hoped to avoid.
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October 05, 2020, 07:33:41 PM |
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I am not going to have the covid19 vaccine unless I stick the same needle to the president of the US first. (Bill Gates would do the trick too.)
And I am not an anti vaccine person. I had a few vaccines before. I just don't trust this one.
I have no proof but I also believe those bird, schwein flu etc were also fabricated. A new flu virus every year and a new vax, just like a new fucking iphone. Those were the study steps. Now they released the endgame.
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Billions of dollars have been invested in vaccine production around the world it will also cost a lot of money to supply and buy vaccines are usually made to prevent disease there are many drugs that cannot be controlled without vaccines are weakened or dead bacteria that are injected into a patient's body through immunizations or injections building long-term immunity also facilitates conservation in the general cooling system.
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October 10, 2020, 09:44:33 AM |
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I have no proof but I also believe those bird, schwein flu etc were also fabricated. A new flu virus every year and a new vax, just like a new fucking iphone. Those were the study steps. Now they released the endgame.
Bill Gates learnt his trade with viruses on Windows. God gave us sunshine, Bitcoin and Linux. Stay with the natural choices that benefit the people.
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October 10, 2020, 11:21:49 PM |
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It is very clear that Covid is a health project If a vaccine can be produced in <1 year. the vaccine works to stimulate the body to form certain immunity and this will have to pass a lot of testing. so the vaccine is a last resort. but I have more faith in Herd immunity ... because it is proven that Covid patients recover not because of drugs, but because they are given intensive nutrition.
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