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October 02, 2020, 09:15:39 PM
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"Humans will not be replaced by robots very soon" --- yeah right !!!

Mof...kers did you watch the video on youtube with Atlas doing parkour ? 

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October 02, 2020, 10:25:49 PM
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Ok Iam impressed, I had not seen that particular one.   The balance is very good and mobility possible.    Still robots are behind humans in a majority of situations and that particular version is going to cost more then a supercar which should put it at some disadvantage.
   The main reasons robots will rise is economic and largely down to fiscal policies that do not allow easy employment.  Humans come with alot of red tape and this is down to government policy vs business basically and whether to impede or facilitate trade and production in a country.    Its the same reason alot of production goes over seas to countries that will lend favor to any requirements a business has where alot of the western economies constantly increase the requirements of employing any person, large liabilities make robots quite simple in comparison hence you will be right in some years.

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October 03, 2020, 02:25:56 AM
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"Humans will not be replaced by robots very soon" --- yeah right !!!

What do you mean by replace?

Manufacturing facilities and factories have been handled by robots to a certain extent but these robots are controlled by humans. Human products may be assembled by robots but robots are assembled by humans. 

But, yeah, a great deal of human labor is now displaced thanks to a more efficient robot force in the workplace.

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October 03, 2020, 04:28:48 AM
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Perhaps not yet the time for robots to replace humans in any sector, but as we know, in some big companies such as an electronic company, car manufacturer and company, and others already use a robot to help humans work. That company realizes that the robot can help them to produce a better product with accuracy and perfect, so we can see that in the market, many products available with good conditions.

Perhaps, robots will replace human works in the future when technology develops more than now. And we will see something different from what we watched in the movie. But that year still not predictable since many scientists still create a better technology to help humans.
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October 03, 2020, 05:27:52 AM
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Automation, especially in the manufacturing sector, is needed with the aim of being able to become a competitive and efficient country when facing difficult economic times. For many industries, as production standards increase, labor costs also become more expensive. This condition forces many industries to switch from manual to semi-automated or fully automated.

For repetition and memory jobs, robots are indeed the winner, but robots find it difficult to do complex problem solving because robots do not have the heart and cognitive intelligence. In addition, automation is indeed a government program and a necessity. So that the current government's task is to ensure comprehensive and relevant education so that in the next few decades, the workforce is absorbed according to the labor market.

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October 03, 2020, 05:34:20 AM
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Automation, especially in the manufacturing sector, is needed with the aim of being able to become a competitive and efficient country when facing difficult economic times. For many industries, as production standards increase, labor costs also become more expensive. This condition forces many industries to switch from manual to semi-automated or fully automated.

For repetition and memory jobs, robots are indeed the winner, but robots find it difficult to do complex problem solving because robots do not have the heart and cognitive intelligence. In addition, automation is indeed a government program and a necessity. So that the current government's task is to ensure comprehensive and relevant education so that in the next few decades, the workforce is absorbed according to the labor market.
Automation will not happen in a day. If it comes to that, I think the government will be addressing the problem of millions of workers getting replaced by machines. I am optimistic about automation because I see it as a gateway for more people to focus on endeavors focused on scientific research. With more people studying STEM related courses, we can further advance our civilization because most of the populace are scientist, engineers, chemist, physicist and other jobs that are fundamental for an advancing civilization.

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October 03, 2020, 05:38:26 AM
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What is robot for clarification,

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a machine capable of carrying out a complex series of actions automatically, especially one programmable by a computer.

-https://www.google.com/search?q=robots&rlz=1C1CHBF_enPH917PH917&oq=Robots&aqs=chrome.0.0j46j0l3j46j69i61l2.1372j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

And what is Artificial Intelligence,

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Artificial intelligence (AI) refers to the simulation of human intelligence in machines that are programmed to think like humans and mimic their actions. The term may also be applied to any machine that exhibits traits associated with a human mind such as learning and problem-solving.

-https://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/artificial-intelligence-ai.asp#:~:text=Artificial%20intelligence%20(AI)%20refers%20to,as%20learning%20and%20problem%2Dsolving.

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"Humans will not be replaced by robots very soon" --- yeah right !!!
might be wrong in some ways. Robots can't ever replace humans cause robots are only programmed to do certain tasks designed by a human being. Maybe what you are referring to are the artificial intelligence who can uncover logics behind a series of actions and knowledge.

But hell yeah, that Atlas is impressive for doing those things, the calculations for the amount of force and tension to be exerted is superb.

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October 03, 2020, 06:06:25 AM
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In the description of the YouTube video, they wrote that they have achieved a success rate of 80% with this prototype;
"we developed the routine significantly faster than previous Atlas routines, with a performance success rate of about 80%."
This is quite high and shows incredible development from a couple of years ago. Research must have gone far ahead of this design currently, and we would likely be witnessing fully automated machines in the future with huge growth in the Artificial Intelligence sector.

Change is imminent and technology has been advancing from when first discoveries of wave motion and the basic laws of motion were made. These lead to further inventions and has been causing disruption in various sectors by making work easier and production faster and more efficient - This has been the bedrock of civilization.
Humans also have an insatiable hunger for development, so it is unlikely we would hit an epoch in technological advancement, there would always be new prototypes and better inventions till we get to a fully automated era.

"Humans will not be replaced by robots very soon" --- yeah right !!!
I commented on a similar post some time back; that humans are already being replaced. Mechanization of the manufacturing industry has lead to an increase in unemployment in that sector, as well as a much higher production rate. This impact would be more felt in the future and is a direct consequence of invention.
A fully or largely automated workforce is futuristic, and before that time, I would assume adaptations would be made in the system to accommodate such changes.

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October 03, 2020, 08:10:00 AM
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See as long as artificial intelligence takes over and forces humans out to extinction, the word replace comes out a little strong.

The thing is :
Not everyone would be able to afford it
How many of you have that cleaning robot thing in your house ? Not everyone will like it ! Try changing the perception of old people, they prefer everything made by hand and such.
Humans will stop them in advance if they reach the level where they might start replacing them. You would need people to actually take care of them too, clean them, charge them, make sure there are no complications, this large scale replacement would further need more people to be in charge of it.
Yes, there are robots capable of doing human tasks, even in the surgery BUT you need to understand that , they lack the general ability to make decisions, which would always make a human more important!!

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October 03, 2020, 08:45:22 AM
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Humans have already been replaced by robots in various daily tasks. How many of you already have Roomba or some other automatic vacuum cleaner in your household? Or maybe an automated lawn mower?
Just as cars gradually replaced horse-drawn carriages a hundred years ago, so will robots replace human labor in many physically strenuous and tedious jobs.

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October 03, 2020, 11:23:44 AM
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Yeah, AI in the recent years conquered a lot of fields, but it still is nowhere near competing with humans in the most important one - creativity. If AI can't create something new, it's just a parrot, a monkey that does tricks. Yes, it will replace a lot of jobs, especially the low skilled ones, but without creativity a huge amount of jobs will be off-limits for AI, and it's very likely that the new future jobs will require creativity in some form. So, I'm really not worried that AI and robots will make us all unemployed.

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October 03, 2020, 11:26:08 AM
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So is that a bad thing? Robots can replace heavy, monotonous, low - skilled or dangerous professions-movers, welders, work in the melting factory, and so on. What's wrong with that? Is it a bad thing that people will have to do less and less hard low-paid work? This is much more positive than not. Yes, at first there may be problems with the rise in unemployment and other things, but robots also need to be designed, assembled, repaired, maintained, monitored, and prepared for these robots workspaces.
The problem of unemployment here will be the first time before the transition from one labor formation to another (as well as during the industrial revolution) ends, after which everything will return to normal. Remind me where are luddites now who shouted that machines would replace man and the hard workers would have nothing to eat?
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October 03, 2020, 12:04:18 PM
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In areas where manufacturing efficiency and precision is concerned--especially on large manufacturing sites--robots have already replaced humans, but the humans still control them in some way to ensure that nothing wrong will ever happen while they are doing their work. Also, the 'robots' that you are pertaining to are far from being the robots that Skynet portrayed. While the advancements on robotics these last few decades is really great, if we are to relate the current gen robots' movements and decision making to a human, they are still far-off.

So far, the most useful AIs are found on the field of data science and machine learning. Robots, on the other hand, are for physical activities that normal humans cannot achieve on their own thus requiring extra mechanical effort to complete. The dystopian Skynet takeover is far from reality--or will never be a reality IMO.

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October 03, 2020, 12:09:12 PM
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Skynet is coming !!! Arm yourself's.

With what? sticks and stones?
In the EU it's getting more and more difficult to get firearms. The left is gaining more power and coming up with theories that it's not people who kill but weapons and that if we allow people to have firearms they'll keep killing each other... That said, firearms won't stop self-learning machines. How do you arm yourself against an evolving virus that lurks in the Internet and takes over your tesla autopilot to crash you into a fuel truck?

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October 03, 2020, 12:58:14 PM
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Industrial robots are something that is advancing very strongly and it is not uncommon for some production facilities to be robotized to the point that only two out of 50 employees remain - but this is a reality and it should come as no surprise that someone wants workers who don’t complain, don’t need pay and do not go on sick leave or vacation.


Up to 20 million manufacturing jobs around the world could be replaced by robots by 2030, according to analysis firm Oxford Economics. About 1.7 million manufacturing jobs have already been lost to robots since 2000, including 400,000 in Europe, 260,000 in the US, and 550,000 in China, it said. The firm predicted that China will have the most manufacturing automation, with as many as 14 million industrial robots by 2030. However, if there was a 30% rise in robot installations worldwide, that would create $5 trillion in additional global GDP, it estimated. At a global level, jobs will be created at the rate they are destroyed, it said.

As for industrial robots, according to this research, the situation does not seem so bad - people will do easier and less dangerous jobs, which should affect their quality of life, of course for the better.



And as for the skynet and similar SF scenarios, we will have to wait for that - such complex robots or better said androids exist and will exist for a long time only on the movie screen.



In the EU it's getting more and more difficult to get firearms. 

Somewhere it’s really hard, but in countries like Austria it’s pretty easy to buy firearms.

Austria is considered to have the most relaxed laws in the European Union.
From aged 18, Austrians can freely buy and own certain types of shotguns and semi-automatic rifles for sport and hunting. They only have to be registered with a licensed dealer within six weeks of purchase.
Non-repeating shotguns don't need a license.

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October 03, 2020, 01:37:41 PM
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Skynet like robots will be very unlikely now to be honest, why? because as robots now that are made for fighting isn't that agile enough to be compared to skynet robots, robots now that are made for fighting is equipped with big guns and bullet proof skins and what you showed us is just a robot that is made to replicate parkour that humans can do and yeah that is a very intelligent and well built robot but arming ourselves just because of those things is very unnecessary. the only thing that robots surpassed humans are production speed, calculating speed and just the things that makes works of human convenient and easy, what we need to fear is not robots taking over us or robots killing us but being unemployed because you have been replaced by a robot and i don't even need to explain it deeper for we are seeing it today.
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October 03, 2020, 02:57:50 PM
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Replace in what?

The one in the video is definitely awesome and I won't argue with that. If it's about the general aspect, even with the advancement of robots right now, their capabilities are still limited based on how humans program them for a specific activity compared to humans who can do a lot of different activities. But as for jobs, we can't erase that the purpose of this kind of advancement is really to make things easier for humans so we will definitely see in the future more companies will depend on AI for convenience and it may replace some jobs but not too soon.
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October 03, 2020, 03:26:12 PM
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Physical robots replacing humans for the execution of physical tasks started a long time ago. Think of car manufacturing plants for example. They don't have to look like humans, it's just that it can be quite unnerving when they do. The advances in robotics are impressive though, particularly the Boston Dynamics stuff. But I think the main area of advancement where humans are starting to be replaced by machines is in automation and improvement of human mental tasks. Increasing segments of the workforce will find their jobs under threat.

... but this isn't to say that physical robots aren't coming. For example, take a look at the robot that is already working as a sheep dog.






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October 03, 2020, 03:54:02 PM
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Robots will never fully replace human soon because governments are aware about the people's ability to work and get paid.

If technology will evolve like that economy will surely go down at the same time we adopt that kind of development.

Governments are not that dumb to let people suffer from famine and financial crisis when they utilize robots above laborers. We need workers and human labor to strengthen so that our economy will become stable and grow compared to an economy that uses robot in any businesses that they are working.

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October 03, 2020, 04:04:29 PM
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Pretty old vid, I also watched a robot vid in the testing back then, most of it was the robot going out of control and basically almost beating up the testers. Still, it is true in the sense that robots will replace humans, but let's be specific here. Humans would be replaced by robots in doing miscellaneous and repetitive tasks, but they won't replace humans as the leading being with intellect in the world. We may say that robots can develop their AI with enough calculations, but humans could do the same, and they could do it without any path, while robots need a path that is specifically made by humans. Besides, technically, any knowledge achieved by a robot is knowledge achieved by humans as well, we need to stop assuming that robots are and could be a third party in our path.

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