My bitcoins completely disappeared and are gone

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

Usually my limit of sending merit to a post is 5 but in your case I thought to send out more just to help you out and with this hope that you make posts like this very often.

Thank you for your help in merit and kind words, Royse777. I will never forget this batch.

I am not proud of myself but I always try to make good posts. Mine are not as high as Legendary like you and others but sure I don't make shitposts.

[1714796974]

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[bittraffic]

Copy-pasting a wallet address is actually what most of us would do to avoid mistakes in sending BTC to a wallet. I do;t think there is going to be a problem with that if you are sure that is the wallet to send to. Its synchronizing wallets that are going to be an issue.  This is like downloading a blockchain on your computer which could take time. This is why I hate wallets that need syncing because of its time-wasting. Its a safe wallet but time wasting. You won't be even sending it again until you synchronize it again.

Its good for holders but if you keep making transactions every other day and you need to quickly do it to race against time because you wanted to buy a token, you'd miss a lot of things right when its synching.

[slaman29]

Let's wait for OP to just at least respond to this. Easiest way to get some reassurance for now is just to look up the receiving address on blockchain explorer like Blockchair. It will show if there's a balance and if the incoming transaction is confirmed!

[o_e_l_e_o]

I am still using the older version and it sync fine.

Versions older than 3.3.0 do not sync.

He also has mentioned about the new option on the latest version, address expiration (which is pretty misleading to the newbies, sometimes olders too).

Request expiration has been in Electrum since version 2.1, which was released in 2015.

Copy-pasting a wallet address is actually what most of us would do to avoid mistakes in sending BTC to a wallet. I do;t think there is going to be a problem with that if you are sure that is the wallet to send to.

Copy and pasting without double checking is one of the most common ways in which people lose their coins - to clipboard malware.

[The Cryptovator]

It Seems OP disappeared after made this post. There is a couple of question above made by other users that need an answer to get to give an appropriate solution. A few suggestions have been given on above replies, I can say that you may stay fearless if your wallet address is correct on the block explorer and if you are holding the seed of your Electrum wallet. Your money wouldn't go then. Since it was synchronized before yesterday means it should work today as well. Assuming you are using the latest version of the original software. You need to make sure your internet speed is enough to synchronize the wallet. Please help by giving more details to spot the problem.

[Lucius]

Simpler? What are simpler wallets than Electrum? Please help me with your list of simpler wallets.

It is widely believed that the Electrum is the simplest BTC wallet and so it was until version 3.3.8, and after that even some more experienced users were a bit confused with some of the options. If you claim that something is simplest, then why did the same wallet couse you basic problems - how to send coins and adjust fee?

I updated my Electrum wallet to the version 4.0.2 and I get troubles with it.

- I can not find where to activate the option "Set fee manually" as previous wallet version.
- I can not spend my coin. What I do is "Choose an address, click on spend from". Then, I have to click on Send tab (previous version, after I click on Spend from, it will automatically direct to the Send tab). Paste a receiving address, cick Max, click Save.

From the perspective of a complete beginner, Electrum is a nightmare, probably like most desktop/mobile wallets - so most use online wallets no matter how unsafe they are.

[vapourminer]

Even with the antivirus installed in your system, you still do not know what programs are running behind and which one is harmful to you.

most all antivirus programs look for malware based on signatures of the virus once its out in the wild (many employ other algorithms too of course) . once its been analyzed and verified its bad they will add its signature to the database. so its pretty easy to write something from scratch that no AV program has a signature for yet.

so dont rely on just AV, you can still get burned hard. reasearch the wallet you use before using it, even if its just an update. 10 minutes with your favorite search engine can save much grief (and coins). and make sure to verify the download with the verification hashes given by the project/dev.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

From the perspective of a complete beginner, Electrum is a nightmare, probably like most desktop/mobile wallets - so most use online wallets no matter how unsafe they are.

If only to use Electrum to receive and send bitcoin, it is simple.

Without care of change address, fee, wallet verification, fee estimation (Choose ETA or mempool), Replace by fee, Child pay for parent, Electrum is simple to use. I don't know what wallet is the simpliest wallet.

I agree the version 4.0.2 is different and can cause troubles for me if I am familiar with old versions. Newbies, do they have to start from empty mind? No familiarity with old version, begin with empty mind and experience the version 4.0.2. I think it is not bad for them.

How to Safely Download and Verify Electrum

[Lucius]

I agree the version 4.0.2 is different and can cause troubles for me if I am familiar with old versions. Newbies, do they have to start from ? No familiarity with old version, begin with empty mind and experience the version 4.0.2. I think it is not bad for them.

So let’s say Ledger Live is also a very simple wallet for those using Nano S/X, maybe even simpler than Electrum. However, I would not agree that newbies will find it easier to catch the strings because, as you say, they are "empty mind" in that sense - because you have a lot of examples where beginners have very basic problems with the first use of Electrum, and here is just one fresh example.

The user-friendly interface has definitely become less friendly after version 4.0.0, but it is something that experienced and inexperienced users have to adapt to.