Steemit and STEEM are not Dead

[Tokenista]

This is going to be a deep dive into the History of Steemit's emergence in the Crypto world, and the emergence of the Crypto world itself so everyone can understand where Steemit is now.


Image from:
https://truthingrace.com/2012/08/23/under-new-management/


### The Birth of an Economy

I first heard about Cryptocurrency around 2008, when a friend of mine mentioned something called the "Silk Road", and I had no idea what either of these things were and had 0 understanding of what a Cryptocurrency is. That may be where you are now, or you may have some experience with Cryptocurrency. A few years later, maybe 2011, there were now news articles about the Silk Road again. After reading an Article, I went to reddit did the whole Onion Browser thing, and used the URL to get to the Silk Road. Where I saw the Bitcoin symbol for the first time. It was being used like a $ Symbol, so I was confused.


฿ 6.00


So I highlighted the symbol, and copied it into Google. And a bunch of discussion on a Forum called Bitcointalk.org appeared. So I started reading. I learned about Satoshi Nakamoto, and Cryptocurrency, there was a community goal that was an extension of Satoshi's initial release of the code as Open Source, the goal was that everyone would use Cryptocurrency. It would be a Decentralized currency, not issued as Fiat by a Government. When I first got there, Bitcoins were $5.00 each. Soon after they were $30.00, then $100.00. Some people said it was a Bubble and it would "be affordable again", and this was when everyone traded on MtGox, and trading platform which was an Acronym for "Magic the Gathering Online Exchange", and you had to use a Money order to buy them. Some people began to theorize that Bitcoin was going way up, that one day we would no longer trade Bitcoins, but much smaller segments of the Coins, and these smaller pieces were dubbed "Satoshis".


Then there was Butterfly labs, and the mining farms. It no longer became feas ible to mine with a laptop or number of laptops, and the Graphics cards that had been being used for mining were also being overtaken by the ASICs.


Litecoin was created. Then it was overtaken by ASICs, so Feathercoin and DOGE were created. Eventually came the CryptoNite Algorythm, to counter ASICs and weaken them, Monero is a CryptoNote based coin like this.


### Steemit Emerges

Then Ethereum. A Blockchain Cloud, with dApps in place of Apps. Ethereum is Infrastructure as a Service (IaaS) and Platform as a Service (PaaS). Bitshares was maybe created before this, but is more of an Organizational Blockchain to be used like a cloud to run 1 or a few websites, while Ethereum is more Decentralized. Bitshares hosts Assets on OpenLedger, these are Token Currencies, not mined but created and owned by the creator, to then be distributed like stocks, or coupons, or tickets, etc. These are then traded on the OpenLedger platform like Cryptocurrencies.


Bitsharestalk.org is similar to Bicointalk.org and is kind of where the ICO trend incubated, and was where the Steemit Witnesses came from. Bitshares was created by Dan and Ned, on what they named the Graphene Blockchain. Their Public release of this Blockchain is called OpenLedger Fabric. IBM uses it. And they used Graphene to create Steemit.


Steemit is a Graphene Blockchain, which can and should be copied into any website model. Any Forum or City or Charity, etc, could launch a Graphene Blockchain to run their website, have Witnesses and Nodes, a Currency, and Voting. Any website could reward their users with a currency like STEEM.


About 3 years ago, the Anarcho-Capitalists came to Steemit. They are like Libertarians to the extreme, and believe the Sidewalks and Roads around you should be Private property, to be used by you as the owner sees fit and for whatever fee they deem appropriate. No Public Property, just Anarchy and Capitalism. And Dan and Ned seemed to approve of this, creating an environment that switched from the most profitable posts being those about Steemit.com or STEEM or trading Crypto, to Anarchy Podcasts and Philosophy against Taxing anyone at all ever. It was a big change, and it was not for the better. I then left the platform.


### Under New Management

Ned then sold Steemit INC to Justin Sun, who founded TRON. And based on what I read from 7 months ago, Ned must have fully and completely implied that Justin had full and complete control of Steemit, without ever having told him about the situation where all the Witnesses, which can be seen as a Board of Directors (BoD), were Bitshares people.


Steemit is a Delegated Proof of Work Staking Chain. I will break this down.


Delegated = Voting, you Upvote posts, you Vote for Witnesses, etc


Proof of Work = Bitcoin itself is a PoW chain, this simply means there is mining. So Delegated Proof of Work means that the Mining is Voted on. So not everyone can Mine STEEM, only Witnesses who are Voted for can mine STEEM.


Staking = This can be equated with Interest. STEEM has Interest associated with Holding it.


So now Delegated Proof of Work Staking Blockchain makes more sense.



So now that Steemit is "Under New Managment" I wanted to explain where it is now. When Ned sold Steemit INC it started a War with the Witnesses and eventually they forked Steemit. This means a new STEEM currency and Blockchain were created, starting from before Justin owned it, and enough people began using it to make it viable. This Platform and Currency are called HIVE. So now there are basically 2 Steemits.



### These are the new Steemit Greeters



>Achievement 1:
@fendit - for Spanish speakers and other
@tocho2 - for Venezuelan newcomers.
@randulakoralage - for Indian subcontinents and other
@tarpan - for Bangladesh newcomers.
@beautychicks - for African continents.
@njaywan - for African continents.
@radjasalman - for Indonesian newcomers.
@cryptokannon - everyone

>Achievement 2:
@rishabh99946
@kiwiscanfly
@leveuf

>Achievement 3
@beautychicks
@njaywan
@kiwiscanfly
@leveuf

>Achievement 4:
@neerajkr03
@njiatanga

>Achievement 5:
@yohan2on
@neerajkr03
@sapwood
@leveuf

>Achievement 6:
@neerajkr03
@yohan2on
@sapwood
@leveuf

>The Greeter Fairy Team
They will be guiding the newcomers that is still outside of the Newcomers Community, into the Newcomers Community and also introduce you to the programs that we The Steem Greeters Team currently have for newcomers and the Steem Community.
@belenguerra
@girolamomarotta
@besticofinder

>The Greeter
They will be greeting you and introduce you the programs in the Steem Community and also by The Steem Greeters Team.
@toufiq777
@edlili24
@adeljose

>Curators for 500SP Minnow Support Program
@rex-sumon
@edlili24

>We looking forward to guiding you in your journey to get to know Steem Ecosystem better.


>Kind Regards,
The Steem Greeters Team.
*updated 21/9/2020

https://steemit.com/hive-172186/@cryptokannon/the-steem-greeters-team-introduction


### The Old Hardfork and how it applies now

When Steemit first launched, the Rules were different. It was called Steemit Beta, which means it was a test launch. The main users were those from OpenLedger, and as it launched they decided it was going to be more of a Blog Platform than Reddit is, even with it being named after Reddit. But a few problems emerged, a big one was that people did not think it was fair that posts paid out in 24hrs, so their posts hardly got any time to collect views and earnings. So a new Blockchain was forked from the old one, and the Witnesses elected to migrate to the new chain. The new rules made payout take 7 days, and a second payout at 30 days if new votes were gotten after the 7 days. Then they also made it where if you post 2x in one day on your blog, your earnings for both are added together and divided by 2. If you post 3x, they are added up and divided by 3. They also added the follow feature so you have followers and people you follow. I believe these rules still apply, but I am not sure if posting in Communities divides your payout, or if posting in multiple Communities does, or multiple times in one Community. If you know please share in the comments.


### Communities

Mentioning Communities, these themselves are a new feature put in place by the TRON team. Communities are meant to be places of Collective Wealth, where we can come to find like minded people who can vote on our content. So they are like Reddit Subreddits /r/ which then makes the trending page more like the Reddit front page, where we independently vote and raise each other to "trending" within our groups, which translates to trending in hashtags and friend's lists, which eventually translates to front page trending. So now Steemit will seem like a much much much larger place once we have 10,000 groups to choose from. With 10,000 groups you might join 100 good groups, and never know about 100 other ones, that is how this will grow the Steemit community.


And, this creates a new posting Topic:

Directories

Each user has a little directory on their profile, here is mine
https://steemit.com/@punicwax/communities

You can also write Directories.

Here is the link to find communities
https://steemit.com/communities


If you want to vote for your first Witness, I would choose this guy. He distributes 50% of what is mined to his Voters.

https://steemit.com/@exnihilo.witness



Steemit Nursery  (2 Month Incubation for New Users)


https://steemit.com/hive-172186/@cryptokannon/steemit-nursery-community-for-newcomers



Minnow Support program


https://steemit.com/hive-172186/@cryptokannon/500sp-minnow-support-program-for-newcomers



New Comers Acheivements


https://steemit.com/hive-172186/@cryptokannon/achievement-tasks-resources-and-materials-newcomers-retention


https://steemit.com/hive-167622/@steemalive/how-to-become-a-full-member-of-steemalive-community-the-steps



The Community Support Program


https://steemit.com/the1000daysofsteem/@steemitblog/1000-days-of-steem-the-communities-support-program


https://steemit.com/hive-148497/@alikoc07/steemfoods-community-established-join-us-and-earn-steem



### Posts about Steemit from the past


The STEEM White Paper

https://steemit.com/steemit/@marsresident/the-steem-white-paper


STEEM for Noobs

https://steemit.com/steemhelp/@aem/steem-for-noobs 


https://steemit.com/steemit/@cryptogee/welcome-to-steem--introduce-yourselves


Cryptocurrency and Taxes 

https://steemit.com/money/@marsresident/you-do-not-have-to-pay-taxes-on-cryptocurrencies-until-you-sell-them


How to Submit a Post

https://steemit.com/steemhelp/@nanzo-scoop/steemit-essentials-how-to-submit-a-blog


Introduce Yourself

https://steemit.com/journey/@marsresident/introduce-yourself


Voting and Witnesses on Steemit

https://steemit.com/steem/@marsresident/vote-for-steem   


Voting on Comments

https://steemit.com/steem/@steemship/buried-treasure-make-money-upvoting-reply-posts-on-steemit


Tools for Buying, Selling and Calculating STEEM

https://steemit.com/steem/@marsresident/tools-links-for-steem-users


How to Spend Your Time on Steemit

https://steemit.com/steemit/@marsresident/steemit-time-guide-using-your-time-wisely


Using Tags

https://steemit.com/steemit-ideas/@nanzo-scoop/tags--best-practice--top-or-bottom-of-the-post


Economics 101

https://steemit.com/money/@marsresident/474mst-economics-101   


Minnows, Dolphins and Whales on Steemit

https://steemit.com/steemit/@crypt0/steemit-whales-dolphins-and-minnows-the-importance-of-steem-power-on-steemit


How You Can Help Get STEEM in the News Using Just Your Email 

https://steemit.com/steem/@marsresident/how-you-can-help-get-steem-in-the-news-simply-using-your-email   


How DogeCoin Overtook Other Currencies 

https://steemit.com/steem/@marsresident/how-dogecoin-overtook-other-cryptocurrencies  


STEEM’s USD Value will Climb Throughout the Year 

https://steemit.com/steem/@marsresident/steem-s-usd-value-will-climb-throughout-the-year  


How STEEM Can Become the #1 CryptoCurrency

https://steemit.com/steem/@marsresident/how-steem-can-become-the-1-cryptocurrency   


Steemit Could Replace Your Full Time Job

https://steemit.com/steemit/@marsresident/steemit-could-replace-your-full-time-job


Buying Gold and Silver with CryptoCurrencies

https://steemit.com/money/@marsresident/gold-silver-and-the-steem-community


Using HTML to Live Up Steemit Posts

https://steemit.com/steem/@xeldal/how-to-liven-up-your-steem-posts-with-markdown


Mining STEEM

https://steemit.com/steemhelp/@joseph/mining-steem-for-dummies


Github Archive for For STEEM App Developers

https://steemit.com/steem/@marsresident/github-cryptocurrency-app-creation-archive    


Creating Your Own Currency

https://steemit.com/steem/@marsresident/make-your-own-cryptocurrency-video-tutorial


Steemit Beta

https://steemit.com/steemit/@marsresident/what-steemit-beta-means


Steemit and Non-Profit Organizations

https://steemit.com/steemit/@marsresident/steemit-and-501-3-c-organizations-or-even-local-governments

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[Sy]

STEEM is not dead, but it is slowly dying. The number of steem users is slowly going down IMO. Their main competitor medium is way ahead of them in terms of users.

[Lorokan]

I do not think there's a point dropping so many messages or threads about steem or steemit. Nobody certainly cares about it.

If we list potential worthy tokens for investment, steem wouldn't make top 100. One single reason why steem is relevant is because, potentially it is a very good blog site and articles are well represented there. Stick to this and always do your own research when it involves investment

[Tokenista]

You both have no idea what you are talking about. Steemit is just getting restarted.

[Tokenista]

On Ionomy you can sell STEEM Backed Dollars earned in your Steemit Wallet, you get BTC. You can then trade that for BLURT.
https://ionomy.com/en/markets/btc-sbd

SBD & HBD ---> Blurt Power
Curate and Continue until Blurt is $0.50 or $1.00

Cash out 1/3 Blurt at $0.50-$1.00

Buy STEEM Power at $0.15 or so

Be a Steemit Whale. Help new people earn SBD to buy BLURT.

It is like Built-In Buy Support, we just suggest to everyone "Hey, you know you can buy BLURT with your SBD/HBD earnings?"

Here is how we are going to be creating Earnings that are not like Wages, but like an Oil Well

1. Blurt, Hive, Steemit + Minnow Support + Canna-Curate + Steemit Communities (APPICS, DLIKER, PunicWax, etc) + Hive Communities
2. SBD + HBD ---> Blurt
3. Blurt + Steemit + Hive + Canna-Curate on Bitcointalk
4. Steem-Engine Tokens + Hive-Engine Tokens + Steemit Communities + Hive Communities + Scot Bots
5. TRON TRC20 Tokens + Bounty0x
5. Blurt ---> STEEM Power
6. STEEM Power to Steem-Engine and Hive Engine, back and forth continuously selling Tokens and STEEM as needed for Liquid, or buying BLURT, etc..
7. DTube Clones
8. Blurt Forks
9. Several other Blockchains

We can also start trading Gold and Silver for Currencies, once a few people do that the value will basically be backed by Gold, and the person selling Gold for Blurt at $0.02 makes tons of earnings on the Blurt Moon Ramp.

[Tokenista]

Here is a Simple Method you could use without too much effort.

First, Buy BLURT now. Sell BLURT at $0.50-$1.00+ (it could go as high as $5.00-$20.00) or just keep it as BLURT Power and earn Curation Rewards until Sell time.

Then Sell and use proceeds to Buy STEEM or HIVE at near $0.15. Wait for BLURT to drop, Buy more BLURT. Sell BLURT at Market spike,
Repeat

[iTradeChips]

The STEEM community does not like Justin Sun at all, I can feel it by the way they manage to show opposition to the acquisition by making a hard fork. Now all the STEEM supporters are going to Hive.io to continue where their blockchain and crypto activities. I am not really sure how the hard fork will affect STEEM but based on the stats, STEEM still has good market cap which many people are still invested into the coin. We will see how this all works out in the coming months and years.

[RealMalatesta]

It is not "dead" but it is really not alive neither. I understand that you wrote a lot of stuff to help people, and this was definitely one of the best methods of making money back in the day without actually spending any money, we all (people who were around back those days) wrote to make money, instead of equipment and other stuff we had more like a "proof of writing" situation and also quality decided on how much you made.

For a while it turned into a SEO place where everyone wrote and you spent money on others to give you money, you gave them 10 bucks and they gave you 5 bucks on steem to make you more famous in order to not need it in the future to make money. But much better methods came up for making money and steem just got boring over course of years.

[ingiltere]

I think it's dead for more than a year. We used to use it a lot but payrates dropped down significantly. Then they changed curator system and only a few people could earn money, others work for almost free.
I wish it remained same as its first months, fair curators, good writers etc. Now it's just a big hole in crypto-currency industry.

[Tokenista]

It is not "dead" but it is really not alive neither. I understand that you wrote a lot of stuff to help people, and this was definitely one of the best methods of making money back in the day without actually spending any money, we all (people who were around back those days) wrote to make money, instead of equipment and other stuff we had more like a "proof of writing" situation and also quality decided on how much you made.

For a while it turned into a SEO place where everyone wrote and you spent money on others to give you money, you gave them 10 bucks and they gave you 5 bucks on steem to make you more famous in order to not need it in the future to make money. But much better methods came up for making money and steem just got boring over course of years.

Well, I am all for forms of Crypto that can be used by anyone.

What would you say is "better" than STEEM together with its clones? And by better do you just mean in terms of profit as STEEM waned, or do you mean easier?

[Tokenista]

I think it's dead for more than a year. We used to use it a lot but payrates dropped down significantly. Then they changed curator system and only a few people could earn money, others work for almost free.
I wish it remained same as its first months, fair curators, good writers etc. Now it's just a big hole in crypto-currency industry.

We have to rewhale it.

BLURT is about to have a Bubble, if we all invest in BLURT, we can then wait until it is $1.00 each and then buy STEEM at $0.15.

And if you buy 25,000 BLURT at $0.02 it's like $500.00

25,000 BLURT becoming $1.00 makes $25,000

Now, $0.15 STEEM means each $1.00 Buys 6+ STEEM, so $1,000 is 6,000+ STEEM, $25,000 is 150,000 STEEM.

And with 150,000 STEEM you could set your account on Auto Curate, and then invite other people to earn Upvotes from you. Then make a Scot Bot, have them earn Tokens, use your curation rewards to Buy Back Your Own Token, and sell it at higher prices. Create STEEM Communities to center your efforts.

The same exact concept can be used for BLURT and HIVE.

[TGD]

STEEM is not dead, but it is slowly dying. The number of steem users is slowly going down IMO. Their main competitor medium is way ahead of them in terms of users.

Medium and Reddit are there main competitors. Although medium has an edge in terms of the number of published article per day but Reddit has a lot of user and interaction daily. Steemit is slowly dying because there is no or only few good content creator out there. There log in method too was very hassle, If you forgot your account key, your steemit account was already loss and there is no way to recover it. I stop using it because its very hassle to login my account on any device you need your account key to sign and there is no way to memorize it unless you are using it regularly.

[Tokenista]

STEEM is not dead, but it is slowly dying. The number of steem users is slowly going down IMO. Their main competitor medium is way ahead of them in terms of users.

Medium and Reddit are there main competitors. Although medium has an edge in terms of the number of published article per day but Reddit has a lot of user and interaction daily. Steemit is slowly dying because there is no or only few good content creator out there. There log in method too was very hassle, If you forgot your account key, your steemit account was already loss and there is no way to recover it. I stop using it because its very hassle to login my account on any device you need your account key to sign and there is no way to memorize it unless you are using it regularly.

It is the best way for non Tech Savvy people to earn Crypto.

The Password is a barrier, but it is money, so I can see why they didn't want everyone's password to be "pa55word"

[Tokenista]

And just btw, Steemit just made a Greeters Team.

They are trying to start over after the War with the Bitsharestalk.org based Witnesses.

[Tokenista]

Smart Media Tokens
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287307.0

[MRKLYE]

Yes, there was a funny story with the seizure of the network and the removal of witnesses from power

It wasn't a funny story.. It was 3 chinese exchanges embezzling and powering up custodial stake to "51%" the network and take control over it.
They then proceeded to facilitate the theft of millions of USD worth of Steem... Even from some accounts that were dormant.

Fuck what steem became. fuck sun yuchen and fuck anyone who supports steem after their "owner" turned into a common thief.



If you want an ACTUALLY decentralized social media blockchain that isn't run by a shifty as fuck CCP bellboy check out HIVE on PeakD.com
(note that your Steem keys will work on HIVE for the most part. Stop supporting thieving cowards and migrate your blogging to HIVE!)

[Tokenista]

There is no Announcement thread, so I thought I would discuss it here.

"The Blurt blockchain was created using a prototype of the SocialGraph generator. A platform that, once refined, will be able to churn out turnkey blockchains based on any Blurt snapshot, just add witnesses! The SocialGraph team are the founders of Blurt, which is one of many niche chains intended to be launched via SocialGraph technology. You may have heard Zapata for example will be launching once the Blurt bugs have and best practices have been ironed out."

Quoted from here
https://www.blurt.blog/dao/@socialgraph/socialgraph-foundation-to-custody-dao-funds

Anyone who invests now will have a stake in several future Blockchains that have yet to be forked.

Join BLURT
https://register.blurt.buzz/

The Discord Chat
https://discord.gg/qnR6dt2

Block Explorer
https://blocks.blurtwallet.com/#/

Buy and Sell Blurt here
https://ionomy.com/en/markets/btc-blurt

Blurt is about to Moon Ramp. There are 400,000,000 coins in Circulation today, at 10% inflation, the whole thing started this August. But only like 600 Active Blurt Bloggers & Curators/Voters. As there are 1,000 active users, and 5,000 active users, and 50 people holding 1,000,000 Blurt each refusing to put it on the Market, and actively multiplying their funds by Voting/Curating, the rewards go up and the platform grows.

What is coming is a Bubble, like the Housing Bubble, where these currently $0.01-$0.02 may be as expensive as $20.00 as people around the World start to flood the platform. 100,000 active users is not a long shot for a place that pays you to be there. It will then Stabilize probably at a few Dollars. Then, finally, once there is a Stable Ecosystem and Stable rate of growth instead of a big influx. Then at that time we will still be earning, but there will be the inflation slowly bringing the value of each one down like the U.S. Dollar's inflation. But that will be from the higher stable value.

This all happened with STEEM, which stabilized at a few Dollars after starting at fractions of a Penny. Then Justin Sun bought Steemit, and all those people that had it locked in earning on their accounts, took it out and dumped it on the market. That is the only reason STEEM is as low as $0.15, but even if Blurt were capped at $0.15, and it isn't, that would be a 700% increase if you bought to today.

10% is very high inflation!

If over time it does not receive the same support from the community, it will fall apart like all the other projects that failed in the crypto world ...

We'll see what happens...

I have been using Steemit since right before the Currency STEEM actually was launched, and after all that happened with TRON, etc, it seems BLURT will be the STEEM of the layman, which is what STEEM wanted to, but never tried, to be.

Dan and Ned were just too themselves to make it work. Like look at Dan's face. I understand that people looked past Mark Zuckerburgs... Whiteness we could maybe call it, but like Nerdy Ugly Whiteness, but they didnt actually have to deal with him. On Steemit you had to impress Ned and Dan if you wanted to earn.

Then the Anarchocapitalists took over. And they messed a bunch of stuff up and gave Steemit a Philosophy that was not very accepting of other Philosophies, or Religion, etc. And those Anarchists went to HIVE.

BLURT is starting off with Curators like Steemit has now, STEEM had no distribution model other than to impress Ned and Dan.

BLURT is memeable and makes sense "Free Speech Blog" actually comes to mind when you log in and see the logo, Steemit was like OverStack or Reddit in obscurity of branding.

So it is not just another Coin, it is a coin with the Steemit Blog which makes it accessible to non-Miners, and it is obvious as to what it is.

Like how Twitter has reTweets and Steemit has reSteems, Tweet at least makes sense, like BLURT. reBlurt automatically makes sense.

This is what the Cryptoworld needs.

And the fact it is then going to be used as a Tool to create Forks, just expands that.

Now your Pizza shop can have a Blog, and the Pizza Blogs biggest users actually earn money. No one makes money on Twitter. We can make Blogs for everything soon.

And if you want to start off with a loaded account on those Blogs, buy some BLURT because once those are forked you will wish you had BLURT early on so you could be a part of all of them for Free, or just cash out those coins, your choice, but it will be good to have them.

My Wife is about to teach Mark Zuckerburg about #BlackGirlMagic

We are suing Facebook for attacking her Black Owned Business during Black History month.

We are about to be trading BLURT and STEEM, for Soap, Oils, Creams, etc. And my Wife and I are suing Facebook as we Register a Family Coat of Arms.

Facebook suspended a Page of my Wife's for talking about the Cushites, Apollonius, Punic Wax, in Beauty and Skincare as, as well as the Kush Mountains and Marijuana. So we see that as a great opportunity to bring up am Amazing Ancient Text, get a Refund, her Page back, fight for Black History and Black Women in Business.

And together with the Family Coat of Arms it is perfect.

[shushanika]

Hmm, a friend recommended me to use Steemit for my company instead of Medium. So you're all saying that Steemit is losing popularity? Should I stick with Medium? What do you guys prefer?

[MishaSER]

Hmm, a friend recommended me to use Steemit for my company instead of Medium. So you're all saying that Steemit is losing popularity? Should I stick with Medium? What do you guys prefer?

It depends on what your goals are, if you look at the medium he is very popular and there are many more users. Steemit is a platform where you can receive rewards for your articles, which is not the case for a Medium.

[kenelmark]

steem is not dead yet but we are close to,on the steemit platform by now the gains are minimal it is not worth it anymore to waste time if they do not invent something soon they will go into oblivion both forum and altcoin

Yes, Steemit and Steem haven't given good surprises and good development updates for themselves for a very long time, so many people are no longer interested in them at this time, but if you die it can happen, but if you look at the price it is still below half a dollar in several exchanges, then his death will not happen immediately.