The only thing goes up is debts! It’s inevitable!

[Broly46]

Debt goes up
Misogynist skyrocket due to lock down, (prove me wrong otherwise)
Stock market goes up (according to trump it’s going up everything is good for himself only)
Fenimazi definitely on the upward trajectory
Incel also shooting up thru the roof???
What’s even good compare to 2008??? No lock down in 2008.

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[Gozie51]

What’s even good compare to 2008??? No lock down in 2008.

Don't expect things and the economy to be just the way it was back 50years ago
At least, this is the first time I have witnessed a global lockdown, what about you ?
Covid-19 was never in 2008. And covid-19 is a heavy challenge to world economy. It is bigger than the recession a single country suffer because it is a general lockdown. So it affects the economy, just few countries are surviving the hard effect now.

[goaldigger]

Every country has its own debt and yes it will continue to rise over time even the richest country in the world has its own unbelievable debt.

The lockdown makes it more hard to people to earn money and since they have no source of income the government has to do something to help them, and developing countries can’t deal with this easily so to get more funds and to help more people, they have to borrow money from other countries and the cycle of dents continues.

[Poker Player]

I agree that it seems inevitable.

https://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html

When you see that the debt of countries works like clockwork, it's normal to wonder if the economic system in which we live isn't shit. Bitcoin was born to combat this, but the day when the economic system changes, if it ever does, is far away.

What I don't see is the link between incels, feminazy etc. with the economic system. 20 years ago we didn't have them and we had a lot of debt already, although less than now.

[Cnut237]

wonder if the economic system in which we live isn't shit

Capitalism is a process, not an end-state. It's not sustainable indefinitely. I'm not saying communism is better (it's not), just that points of crisis are to be expected, and it's the job of the government to manage them... which they are not doing very well. Debt is certainly inevitable under the current system, as the expectation of debt is what it's all built upon. Bitcoin does offer hope of greater freedom, but that's till a very long way off.

[dimonstration]

Every country has its own debt and yes it will continue to rise over time even the richest country in the world has its own unbelievable debt.

The lockdown makes it more hard to people to earn money and since they have no source of income the government has to do something to help them, and developing countries can’t deal with this easily so to get more funds and to help more people, they have to borrow money from other countries and the cycle of dents continues.

This will make the country with too much debt owes a lot in their lender. Debts been striking up in our country and it hurts to see that some poloticians didn't use it Wisely. This Pandemic we will see which country is really able to managed despite many problems happen. Debts will increase if the people in the government will not be responsible enough to really do their duties.

[Broly46]

What’s even good compare to 2008??? No lock down in 2008.

Don't expect things and the economy to be just the way it was back 50years ago
At least, this is the first time I have witnessed a global lockdown, what about you ?
Covid-19 was never in 2008. And covid-19 is a heavy challenge to world economy. It is bigger than the recession a single country suffer because it is a general lockdown. So it affects the economy, just few countries are surviving the hard effect now.

I feel like the lock down is not far of from incarceration, yup, think about incarcerate everybody with justice system, this time both gender are getting incarcerated indefinitely, debt is slowly eating into me no doubt, so we call it the new world order? Is it the new world order? Confused, very confuse.

[Broly46]

Every country has its own debt and yes it will continue to rise over time even the richest country in the world has its own unbelievable debt.

The lockdown makes it more hard to people to earn money and since they have no source of income the government has to do something to help them, and developing countries can’t deal with this easily so to get more funds and to help more people, they have to borrow money from other countries and the cycle of dents continues.

Think about having too much student debt, how are we gonna repay the debt? It’s charging a hefty sum of interest rate and heavy fine. Our face will turn pale to just think. Yup, don’t pay them, and go full retarded.

[noorammak]

Any country also needs to borrow for economic development. We are building the world on debt. There will come a time when debt balances will rise higher and central banks continue to print money to pay debts.
I don't believe in markets because they follow heterogeneous rules. This downturn is different compared to 2008 when stock indexes recover quickly and reach a new ATH. Perhaps the world has printed too much money.

[oHnK]

That's right, an increase in debt is inevitable.  Debt is basically used to increase productivity, but this year debt is no longer running with its leverage function.  Debt increases only due to securing a country's economy for a certain period of time.  The government, which has increased in debt due to Covid, has made debt an alternative to safeguarding the socio-economic conditions of its people.  The pandemic has exacerbated the amount of national debt, especially in developing countries.  I hope, with the increase in debt, the government will be able to allocate it properly, so that the handling of Covid will end soon.  Honestly, I'm really tired of the current situation.

[slapper]

It has been a long time since the world faced a dangerous pandemic like this. I can't expect everything will be the same as before, especially when this virus has stolen more than 1 million lives. The lockdown is obligatory to save as many lives as we can. I know that the results will make many people lose their job. But as long as we still here, we can build anything with our own hand.

Debt is really a bad thing. It is hard to maintain our living conditions during this circumstance without having a huge debt. Just try as best as you can and I believe you will have what you deserve.

[Broly46]

I agree that it seems inevitable.

https://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html

When you see that the debt of countries works like clockwork, it's normal to wonder if the economic system in which we live isn't shit. Bitcoin was born to combat this, but the day when the economic system changes, if it ever does, is far away.

What I don't see is the link between incels, feminazy etc. with the economic system. 20 years ago we didn't have them and we had a lot of debt already, although less than now.

Do you think incels, feminazy existed in, 20 years ago?

[Broly46]

wonder if the economic system in which we live isn't shit

Capitalism is a process, not an end-state. It's not sustainable indefinitely. I'm not saying communism is better (it's not), just that points of crisis are to be expected, and it's the job of the government to manage them... which they are not doing very well. Debt is certainly inevitable under the current system, as the expectation of debt is what it's all built upon. Bitcoin does offer hope of greater freedom, but that's till a very long way off.

Surprisingly many big businesses don’t plan to leave the communist country, despite their government promise to give some handsome tax benefit to move their plant back to their mother land. Japan firms, Korean firms, even American firm do not want to migrate their businesses back even with unbelievable promises and benefits.

[Broly46]

Every country has its own debt and yes it will continue to rise over time even the richest country in the world has its own unbelievable debt.

The lockdown makes it more hard to people to earn money and since they have no source of income the government has to do something to help them, and developing countries can’t deal with this easily so to get more funds and to help more people, they have to borrow money from other countries and the cycle of dents continues.

This will make the country with too much debt owes a lot in their lender. Debts been striking up in our country and it hurts to see that some poloticians didn't use it Wisely. This Pandemic we will see which country is really able to managed despite many problems happen. Debts will increase if the people in the government will not be responsible enough to really do their duties.

Do you think the debt will have impact to everybody else include you and me?

[disconnectme]

wonder if the economic system in which we live isn't shit

Capitalism is a process, not an end-state. It's not sustainable indefinitely. I'm not saying communism is better (it's not), just that points of crisis are to be expected, and it's the job of the government to manage them... which they are not doing very well. Debt is certainly inevitable under the current system, as the expectation of debt is what it's all built upon. Bitcoin does offer hope of greater freedom, but that's till a very long way off.

Surprisingly many big businesses don’t plan to leave the communist country, despite their government promise to give some handsome tax benefit to move their plant back to their mother land. Japan firms, Korean firms, even American firm do not want to migrate their businesses back even with unbelievable promises and benefits.

Every system has its own advantages, the reason why most of these firms are not moving out is because of the cost of production, which is very low in places like China and Vietnam. You don't have any Union to negotiate with and there are several things like environment impact assessment that you need to pass in these places unlike developed nations, as long as people start putting profit before values these firms will not relocate

[exstasie]

Misogynist skyrocket due to lock down, (prove me wrong otherwise)

Fenimazi definitely on the upward trajectory

Hmmm, perhaps there is a connection between the two?

Conformist SJW types and racist, sexist misanthropists alike are digging their heels in. Part of it is the economic situation coming to a head. For decades, wages have been stagnating while living costs surge. This has resulted in a new generation of angry, misguided, and broke people who can't support themselves (they depend on their parents) and are, apparently due to their pathetic lives, sexually inept. These people are lashing out, economically in the form of populism (anti-immigrant sentiment plays a big role here) and socially in the form of these protests and online communities.....Proud Boys, Patriots, etc. Essentially I think these people are largely a generational reaction to the economic situation. So was the election of Trump in 2016. In turn I think a lot of the increased SJW activity is a direct reaction to their presence online and in street rallies, etc. although it's also a manifestation of the type of left-wing populism that can erupt when the economy gets worse and worse.

This has all been coming to a head for years already. The mass unemployment caused by the corona virus lockdowns and economic contraction quickly brought it to a critical mass though.

And to boot, it made it so millions and millions of people now have way too much fucking time on their hands to go out protesting or shout their views at people for 12 hours a day online.

What’s even good compare to 2008??? No lock down in 2008.

Markets get propped up by the Fed and Congress. Homeowners get bailed out. The lockdowns were a new twist, the amount of money printing was unprecedented, but everything else looks quite the same. That's why the market recovered so fast.

[Broly46]

Misogynist skyrocket due to lock down, (prove me wrong otherwise)

Fenimazi definitely on the upward trajectory

Hmmm, perhaps there is a connection between the two?

Conformist SJW types and racist, sexist misanthropists alike are digging their heels in. Part of it is the economic situation coming to a head. For decades, wages have been stagnating while living costs surge. This has resulted in a new generation of angry, misguided, and broke people who can't support themselves (they depend on their parents) and are, apparently due to their pathetic lives, sexually inept. These people are lashing out, economically in the form of populism (anti-immigrant sentiment plays a big role here) and socially in the form of these protests and online communities.....Proud Boys, Patriots, etc. Essentially I think these people are largely a generational reaction to the economic situation. So was the election of Trump in 2016. In turn I think a lot of the increased SJW activity is a direct reaction to their presence online and in street rallies, etc. although it's also a manifestation of the type of left-wing populism that can erupt when the economy gets worse and worse.

This has all been coming to a head for years already. The mass unemployment caused by the corona virus lockdowns and economic contraction quickly brought it to a critical mass though.

And to boot, it made it so millions and millions of people now have way too much fucking time on their hands to go out protesting or shout their views at people for 12 hours a day online.

What’s even good compare to 2008??? No lock down in 2008.

Markets get propped up by the Fed and Congress. Homeowners get bailed out. The lockdowns were a new twist, the amount of money printing was unprecedented, but everything else looks quite the same. That's why the market recovered so fast.

Long term reddit reader on r/ Pua, incel, lookism, and it evolve to twitter on 2017, but after a complete overhaul in 2018, most of the toxic Twitters are removed, also reddit remove most of the misogyny sub, it didn’t dry up but gaining traction with more and more forum shrooming like mushroom in recent years, excerpt from wiki

Sites

The manosphere comprises various websites, blogs, and online forums.[21] Noted sites include /r/TheRedPill, Return of Kings, A Voice for Men, PUAHate, and SlutHate.[40]

Reddit has been a popular gathering place for manosphere supporters, and several forums on the site are geared toward its ideas.[41][42] However, in the late 2010s Reddit began to take steps to discourage more extreme manosphere subreddits. Some were banned, such as /r/incels (banned in 2017) and its successor /r/braincels (banned in 2018); other subreddits such as /r/MGTOW and /r/TheRedPill have been "quarantined", meaning that a warning is displayed to users about the content of the subreddit and users must sign in before they're allowed to enter.[43][44][45][46] As a result, some of these communities have found new homes on websites that are more welcoming of extreme content, such as Gab.[46]

My observation so far.

Home owner get bailout? I think they getting some fancy refinance package, it’s hardly a bailout. But everybody seem to accept that happily.

[Yatsan]

It is just normal that the debt goes up for every country that is directly affected by the pandemic do have that because not all countries do have a pretty rich economy to support its people most specially on the third world countries for they are lacking of resources and the capability to create ways on how they can have funds as of the moment. There is nothing wrong on having debts right now for we are currently on a crisis and one of the thing to keep up and survive this crisis for the sake of the people is to borrow money that will be paid of course once everything gets back to normal and the country's economy have already full recovered from the recession it experienced during this pandemic.

[DoublerHunter]

^ If you learn how business, finance, and economy works, you will know that debt is not your enemy. And you will know that financial literature and networks are the superheroes. In the situation that we have right now, debt is the best option for the countries to survive.
And I can tell, numbers will only be lowered but never the value. The lockdown in 2008 is nothing compared to today though. The lockdown of today is more centralized and controlled by the powerful people behind the curtain.

[Lorence.xD]

^ If you learn how business, finance, and economy works, you will know that debt is not your enemy. And you will know that financial literature and networks are the superheroes. In the situation that we have right now, debt is the best option for the countries to survive.

Debt in a national scale is not something a country can avoid, I think the efficient and proper distribution of borrowed funds is the key to utilize the full potential of a national debt.

OP seems to hate having a debt. If you are practical when it comes to finance then you could have avoided one. I do not know your lifestyle but I think it is time to be self aware whether you have the solution or you are part of the problem, stop blaming the government everything that is happening to you.