Loki888 scammed me

[breezyu]

What happened::
I was buying yt premium, he pmed me that he could do it and i send him 30 usd now he is telling me that he receiced the btc and to wait 24 hours when i specificly said i need this right now.. right after that he went offline when i told him im not gonna wait and that he has to refund me lol

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2509723

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280334.new#new
Amount Scammed: 30 usd
Payment Method: btc  
Proof of Payment: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/97e4ee82dc0d6746c4e9d93a2145b1a467e25cc7702f159cb2d8037fa021dd07
PM/Chat Logs: https://imgur.com/a/8SVkJ88 /color]
Additional Notes: Broke ass i hope he gets banned asap

[TalkStar]

Good to see that you have followed the proper scam report format but you may forgot to keep gap during placing all neceserry links.

Please keep the links clickable like this, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2509723

I am seeing some postive feedbacks on this users profile and he completed multiple deals smoothly. I think you should wait little extra time to get final response from his end. For now you can send your thread link to him through forum PM system and hopefully he will make a response here. Until then keep patience and don't forget to share updates here.    

[coupable]

If you have any complaint against any member then please use this format for Scam Accusation hopefully this will help you to have some better response from other members of this forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0

If he has any complaint against a forum member, he has to use the "Reputation" board and not this one. Doesn't need to use a specific format as he can explain what happened with verified proofs.

Op, no one will be banned for scamming others. He will just receive a negative feedback from dt members as a warning for others not to make deals with him. You can create a flag in the scammer's profile and leave the aproppriate feedback too.
Fortunetly, the scammed amount is not that big. It's a lesson for you too not to trust others with your money. Next time, better to ask for an escrow.

[breezyu]

Yeah sorry i bought a new macbook recently and im still trying to get used to everything lol. I think he scammed me because he said he would be online for hours and he went offline straight away.. plus in the beginning i asked if this was available for a instant trade and he said yes. He will prob come up with some bs about how impatient I am and because i reported him, that he now doesnt wanna trade anymore and refund me.. lol really sad tbh.


I also noticed that he changed the email on hes bitcointalk right after he received my funds basically.. so thats also a red flag.

[JeromeTash]

The user has zero reputation in this forum. I wonder how you ended up trusting him

He asked;

I have been in the forum since 2018 and you think for 40$ I'll ruin my reputation?

Account age means nothing here. Accounts can be bought or hacked any time.

I also noticed that he changed the email on hes bitcointalk right after he received my funds basically.. so thats also a red flag.

Always be keen and use escrow. The fee an escrow service asks you to pay is way too low compared to losing the whole amount.
The account probably changed hands a few days before scamming you. Not after. These are the sort of things you look out for before dealing with anybody

I am seeing some postive feedbacks on this users profile and he completed multiple deals smoothly. I think you should wait little extra time to get final response from his end. For now you can send your thread link to him through forum PM system and hopefully he will make a response here. Until then keep patience and don't forget to share updates here.     

Scammers have a tendency of making a few trades with hope of building trust and postive feedback before scamming users. It's becoming a come practice lately especially with low ranking accounts that have earned a few merits.

I doubt Loki888 will be coming back given that the email address and password got changes right before exit scaming.

[TalkStar]

Yeah sorry i bought a new macbook recently and im still trying to get used to everything lol. I think he scammed me because he said he would be online for hours and he went offline straight away.. plus in the beginning i asked if this was available for a instant trade and he said yes. He will prob come up with some bs about how impatient I am and because i reported him, that he now doesnt wanna trade anymore and refund me.. lol really sad tbh.

Are you trying to say that you have got the same experience from this user?

If yes then don't hesitate to open a separate accusation like OP did. Collect all related evidences to make your accusation stronger and include all to your own thread.
    

I also noticed that he changed the email on hes bitcointalk right after he received my funds basically.. so thats also a red flag.

I have also checked his profile and got that he changed his email address recently. Maybe accont ownership has been changed and everything starts to happen right after this.        

[breezyu]

Thanks for the tips guys.. I was trying to safe on YT premium and now I lost 30$. Oh well.
Another user PMer me shortly after I made this thread, I am 100% sure its him. He asked me if I was interested in the same product and said he is willing to do 50/50 and told me exactly how much btc he needs, something that loki told me because my wallet is set in euro and not usd. He speaks just like loki, I’m so sure that this is he’s other account. He even said that he is online for a few more hours, loki said that as well the same way. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2820933

[JeromeTash]

Thanks for the tips guys.. I was trying to safe on YT premium and now I lost 30$. Oh well.
Another user PMer me shortly after I made this thread, I am 100% sure its him. He asked me if I was interested in the same product and said he is willing to do 50/50 and told me exactly how much btc he needs, something that loki told me because my wallet is set in euro and not usd. He speaks just like loki, I’m so sure that this is he’s other account. He even said that he is online for a few more hours, loki said that as well the same way. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2820933

Yeah, such people try to prey on desperate victims and scam them more funds. Tell him no escrow, no deal.
I could help tag this account too only if there is solid proof of a link between the 2 profiles. OP can you please open a type 1 flag on the scammer's profile? I will support it.

[breezyu]

Thanks for the tips guys.. I was trying to safe on YT premium and now I lost 30$. Oh well.
Another user PMer me shortly after I made this thread, I am 100% sure its him. He asked me if I was interested in the same product and said he is willing to do 50/50 and told me exactly how much btc he needs, something that loki told me because my wallet is set in euro and not usd. He speaks just like loki, I’m so sure that this is he’s other account. He even said that he is online for a few more hours, loki said that as well the same way. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2820933

Yeah, such people try to prey on desperate victims and scam them more funds. Tell him no escrow, no deal.
I could help tag this account too only if there is solid proof of a link between the 2 profiles. OP can you please open a type 1 flag on the scammer's profile? I will support it.

I think I did that. He is currently online and no reply from him so its a scam for sure.

[Rikafip]

Scammers have a tendency of making a few trades with hope of building trust and postive feedback before scamming users. It's becoming a come practice lately especially with low ranking accounts that have earned a few merits.

It's true, scammers do that, but don't they usually do that  in shorter period of time and then just exit scam? If that's what really happened here, trust farming, then @Loki888 really played the long game since he started trading more than a year ago, and to finish it off with 30 USD scam, that really doesn't make much sense. But then again,  scammers are pretty  stupid sometimes and do illogical things, we all saw that many times before.



For me this looks more like a sold or hacked account since email has been changed recently, and if this was exit scam indeed, wouldn't he aim for a bit more than 30 USD, as once he does the scam, his account is ruined. He will be tagged and flagged, so no one will any brain will do any business with him ever again.

OP can you please open a type 1 flag on the scammer's profile? I will support it.

Isn't Flag Type 3 more appropriate in this case, as OP is financially damaged by Loki888?

[breezyu]

Ok just created flag 2 on hes account did i do it the correct way

[nutildah]

One other thing you can do (if he doesn't refund you or finish the deal within whatever time frame) is add a flag to his account. I would add the type 2 or 3 flag about implied or written contract. That will cause a red (reddish) box to show up at the top of every thread he started that says "Warning: One or more bitcointalk.org users have reported that they strongly believe that the creator of this topic is a scammer." It looks like this. Just use this thread as your reference thread when making the flag.

Edit: just saw the above posts, took too long writing up my post I guess.

[breezyu]

One other thing you can do (if he doesn't refund you or finish the deal within whatever time frame) is add a flag to his account. I would add the type 2 or 3 flag about implied or written contract. That will cause a red (reddish) box to show up at the top of every thread he started that says "Warning: One or more bitcointalk.org users have reported that they strongly believe that the creator of this topic is a scammer." It looks like this. Just use this thread as your reference thread when making the flag.

I see. Just created a flag 2.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

I have added my support to the flag but it needs more DT members to support it so that it can have sufficient support and become active.

Thanks for the tips guys.. I was trying to safe on YT premium and now I lost 30$. Oh well.
Another user PMer me shortly after I made this thread, I am 100% sure its him. He asked me if I was interested in the same product and said he is willing to do 50/50 and told me exactly how much btc he needs, something that loki told me because my wallet is set in euro and not usd. He speaks just like loki, I’m so sure that this is he’s other account. He even said that he is online for a few more hours, loki said that as well the same way. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2820933

You are right about that user, he just opposed the flag.

The accounts the opposed the created flags are very much likely to be the scammer's alts. Keep an eye on them.

1. Floatingboat
2. iwutitan

[Lorence.xD]

You are the first poster I saw that never intended to bring back the scammed amount. You could have done a 50/50 deal in the first place, what stopped you from doing that. The sense of urgency made you muddle your thoughts on how to deal with someone online. The chats were red flags dude/dudette, when someone says they are not going to ruin their reputation for a couple of bucks, chances are high that they will ruin it. All of chats were red flags actually, the audacity to tell you that he won't deal a 50/50. He even wants you to delete the topic to cover his ass.

[breezyu]

I have added my support to the flag but it needs more DT members to support it so that it can have sufficient support and become active.

Thanks for the tips guys.. I was trying to safe on YT premium and now I lost 30$. Oh well.
Another user PMer me shortly after I made this thread, I am 100% sure its him. He asked me if I was interested in the same product and said he is willing to do 50/50 and told me exactly how much btc he needs, something that loki told me because my wallet is set in euro and not usd. He speaks just like loki, I’m so sure that this is he’s other account. He even said that he is online for a few more hours, loki said that as well the same way. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2820933

You are right about that user, he just opposed the flag.

The accounts the opposed the created flags are very much likely to be the scammer's alts. Keep an eye on them.

1. Floatingboat
2. iwutitan

Yup they both pmed me right after.

[breezyu]

You are the first poster I saw that never intended to bring back the scammed amount. You could have done a 50/50 deal in the first place, what stopped you from doing that. The sense of urgency made you muddle your thoughts on how to deal with someone online. The chats were red flags dude/dudette, when someone says they are not going to ruin their reputation for a couple of bucks, chances are high that they will ruin it. All of chats were red flags actually, the audacity to tell you that he won't deal a 50/50. He even wants you to delete the topic to cover his ass.

I have done many trades online on forums, I just did not really know how to proper check someone's account on this forum as I'm not that much on it, its really confusing for the new user. If it was a higher amount, I would of had used escrow for sure.

[Rikafip]

The accounts the opposed the created flags are very much likely to be the scammer's alts. Keep an eye on them.

1. Floatingboat
2. iwutitan

Yep, it looked weird that those two accounts decided to oppose the flag that seemingly has nothing to do with them, so I decided to check it a bit, especially since iwutitan has been red tagged already for scam involving account sale, and  Floatingboat is conveniently also in the account sale business + using the same BTC address. When you add all these "coincidences" it is obvious that those are alt accounts (and iwutitan has been connected with another scammer) so I am tagging Floatingboat as well.


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@breezyu You should update your first post with a flag link, for an easier access so more people support your flag.

[Amin.Rezaeian70]

Dear BTCTALK staff!
Instead of blaming member about how they trust other members try to update your forums feature and increase its security! Your forum is full of scammers. I can tell for sure that almost 80% of your members are scammers and you need to do something about that!
You can use some features that other forums are providing!
Stop Blaming the members about how they trust other members. They trust on your forum when they accept to have a deal with your members! You keep asking to use escrow but how about the fees? Who is going to cover it? How much profit is on a deal that you expect us to use escrow and pay its fee?
You need to upgrade your forum features!
Regards

[Rikafip]

Instead of blaming member about how they trust other members try to update your forums feature and increase its security! Your forum is full of scammers. I can tell for sure that almost 80% of your members are scammers and you need to do something about that!

Thing is, you shouldn't trust members, and if you do, then it should be someone with extensive and positive trade history.

Stop Blaming the members about how they trust other members. They trust on your forum when they accept to have a deal with your members! You keep asking to use escrow but how about the fees? Who is going to cover it? How much profit is on a deal that you expect us to use escrow and pay its fee?

Stop blaming forum because you trusted someone that wasn't proven trustworthy by other members. You trusted newbie account with no proven trade history. If you can't afford escrow fees, that are usually in the 1-2% range (from what I can see you have been scammed recently for 200 USD) and person you want to have business with doesn't have good trade history, simply don't do it. No one is forcing you to trade. And if you decide to do it anyway, accept the risk and consequences of your actions.

Since your are on bitcointalk forum, I guess you know that bitcoin is about personal responsibility. So be responsible and don't blame the others for your mistakes.