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Hi there , https://zeancasino51.com/I’m sure that by now you’ll may have already read about Trump’s letter to WHO where he has threatened to pull US out from WHO, which in layman terms mean that he’ll stop their funding, and this letters contents has upset many Democrats and other global political leaders. Furthermore I’m not expecting him to pull out from WHO, and I believe this to be another political move to attack China as we all saw how the WHO sided with China ever since the Covid19 began. However if we were to assume a hypothetical scenario where he actually walks the talk and quits WHO, do you’ll think that it could have a negative effect on his votes share?, as Democratic Party will raise this topic that he walked away from WHO when Covid19 was at it’s peak, or the voters won’t care at all about this?. Thank you for coming in and reading.
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October 07, 2020, 09:05:14 AM |
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if I were an American, I strongly support Trump's efforts to get America out of the WHO. because Covid 19, WHO and China are a conspiracy. but if this happens I am afraid other countries that do not believe in WHO will act like America did too, it will end up in chaos.
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October 07, 2020, 11:11:47 AM |
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People don't really care about WHO and to be honest people will be happy if Trump stop funding them because they are paying huge part of their tax money for WHO but still they failed to do anything when the virus was spreading.
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WHO is an advisory service trump thought they were an authority with powers to invade countries and investigate onsite with no backlash
yep WHO is just advisory. they can investigate and do tests in china or in any country. but with that countries invitation.
usually its there for countries to hand them test results. and internationally have them test results scrutinised and then reported once verified
trump doesnt want to give them authority. but hypocritically angry they dont have authority so thinks they are a waste of money.
.. here is the thing. WHO is not one country. not bias or leaning towards any country. its multinational. with experts verifying data cross the planet. much like blockchain verification
turn them into the armed forces invasion team. is not what WHO is for
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if I were an American, I strongly support Trump's efforts to get America out of the WHO. because Covid 19, WHO and China are a conspiracy. but if this happens I am afraid other countries that do not believe in WHO will act like America did too, it will end up in chaos.
How come that "Covid 19, WHO, and China are a conspiracy"? I really don't get what you mean in this sentence. Though, If I we're an American, I would go against trump. I can't understand the logic of threatening the WHO when all the organization wants is to investigate the current situation of the pandemic in the USA. It really smells fishy to see him getting very defensive for something he doesn't take seriously. ~snip~
However if we were to assume a hypothetical scenario where he actually walks the talk and quits WHO, do you’ll think that it could have a negative effect on his votes share?, as Democratic Party will raise this topic that he walked away from WHO when Covid19 was at it’s peak, or the voters won’t care at all about this?.
I do think it will garner negative thoughts about the current administration, given that the election in the USA is just right there in the corner. The closer the election, the more he garner attention from every action, even small ones that he does. Ergo, this will give negative effects on his vote shares.
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WHO is an advisory service trump thought they were an authority with powers to invade countries and investigate onsite with no backlash
yep WHO is just advisory. they can investigate and do tests in china or in any country. but with that countries invitation.
usually its there for countries to hand them test results. and internationally have them test results scrutinised and then reported once verified
trump doesnt want to give them authority. but hypocritically angry they dont have authority so thinks they are a waste of money.
.. here is the thing. WHO is not one country. not bias or leaning towards any country. its multinational. with experts verifying data cross the planet. much like blockchain verification
turn them into the armed forces invasion team. is not what WHO is for
The point is, why the WHO? They are over in China, and everybody knows that China truth is what the Communist government over there dictates it to be. Possibly Chinese people are a little tiny bit more intelligent that Americans. Probably they aren't. Let's do our own medical investigations over here. Let every country do their own through their own WHO-like organization that is free from coercion of any other WHO-like organization. There's nothing wrong with honestly comparing notes. But get the WHO advisories out of America. And certainly until we see through our own investigations that they might be right or wrong.
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October 07, 2020, 06:41:43 PM |
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WHO is not in china. the problem is china told WHO about covid a couple days before america found out. so now trump thinks its all a conspiracy against him
WHO are an international group of scientists and medical experts that review reports and when they prove valid . then the international countries know
the passing of 2 days where not a single person had even died before america knew.. means that it WHO or china were not hiding anything. but it does take time to actually check validity of reports and work out how much it can turn into something bad.
trump just butt-hurt that he wasnt king and wasnt the first told. he then didnt realise what type of group WHO is or what who does. you can tell this. because when other silly conspiracy loving idiots say the same crap about the stupid stuff they dont know but pretend to know. its obvious
the other thing is.. the virus is international now.. hello its october not january you can study the virus in america if your american. so instead of pretending its all fake. actually wake up to october 2020 and realise crying about january is just you crying about stupid stuff you got wrong
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WHO is not in china. the problem is china told WHO about covid a couple days before america found out. so now trump thinks its all a conspiracy against him
WHO are an international group of scientists and medical experts that review reports and when they prove valid . then the international countries know
the passing of 2 days where not a single person had even died before america knew.. means that it WHO or china were not hiding anything. but it does take time to actually check validity of reports and work out how much it can turn into something bad.
trump just butt-hurt that he wasnt king and wasnt the first told. he then didnt realise what type of group WHO is or what who does. you can tell this. because when other silly conspiracy loving idiots say the same crap about the stupid stuff they dont know but pretend to know. its obvious
the other thing is.. the virus is international now.. hello its october not january you can study the virus in america if your american. so instead of pretending its all fake. actually wake up to october 2020 and realise crying about january is just you crying about stupid stuff you got wrong
Poor, little franky1. All butt-hurt that he doesn't know what Trump is thinking, and that Covid isn't all that dangerous after all. Besides, Covid was around the world last year already. The only reason they didn't see it, is they weren't ready for it. Guess what's coming? Another Coronaviris strain. Coronavirus won't stop mutating just because Covid isn't dangerous. As Dr. Kaufman says, Covid-19 is approximately 80% the same as the standard flu genetically. T-cells recognize this similarity and rapidly adapt to fight it, because they are used to fighting the flu already. Stupid pandemic is all lies. It's mostly an attempt to take over the free world with fear. The funny thing is, we are about 96% the same as chimps, genetically. But look at the difference between us and chimps. Yet a high-powered rifle can easily kill both of us. Isn't it about time you started to think a little?
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WHO is an advisory service trump thought they were an authority with powers to invade countries and investigate onsite with no backlash
yep WHO is just advisory. they can investigate and do tests in china or in any country. but with that countries invitation.
usually its there for countries to hand them test results. and internationally have them test results scrutinised and then reported once verified
trump doesnt want to give them authority. but hypocritically angry they dont have authority so thinks they are a waste of money.
.. here is the thing. WHO is not one country. not bias or leaning towards any country. its multinational. with experts verifying data cross the planet. much like blockchain verification
turn them into the armed forces invasion team. is not what WHO is for
Yeah I think this is what a lot of people missed. There's no way that China was going to willingly provide WHO information. Is it fair to be angry at China about this? Yes. Is it fair to be mad at the WHO? Kinda. It would've been nice to know that China was blocking the WHO or if the WHO had any suspicion there was something going on before the WHO told them. I think this does open a lot of Americans eyes into if it'll make sense to continue to provide money to a group that is just an advisory group that is unable to stop a future COVID. There should be some real bipartisan research into this IMO.
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Yeah I think this is what a lot of people missed.
There's no way that China was going to willingly provide WHO information. Is it fair to be angry at China about this? Yes. Is it fair to be mad at the WHO? Kinda. It would've been nice to know that China was blocking the WHO or if the WHO had any suspicion there was something going on before the WHO told them.
I think this does open a lot of Americans eyes into if it'll make sense to continue to provide money to a group that is just an advisory group that is unable to stop a future COVID. There should be some real bipartisan research into this IMO.
guess your naive or have reading issues. actual facts is china DID give info to WHO and WHO checked it out, validated the reports and in first week of january was telling the world. all before a single person died. thats called rapid reporting trump did not publicly react until march, and only because he was getting huge pressure from hospitals worried they are increasing in admissions but not being funded to increase capacity. Pence tonight said trump shut down flights to china in january. WRONG china shut down their own flights. so planes ended up having to circle the skies because they would be penalised for not taking off in their timeslot from america. it had to be declared a pandemic before the planes could just park and not fly. trump then organised repatriation flights against the wishes of both china and WHO the only reason cases got into america is because of TRUMPS repatriation flights
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October 08, 2020, 06:52:21 AM |
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if I were an American, I strongly support Trump's efforts to get America out of the WHO. because Covid 19, WHO and China are a conspiracy. but if this happens I am afraid other countries that do not believe in WHO will act like America did too, it will end up in chaos.
How can you support that Covid is a conspiracy? I had relatives that they were infected by this virus and everything that the media says is true. Also, my uncle works in the hospital and he has seen with his eyes all those people who struggle to breath, etc. The only thing that I do not believe is that this virus can be transmitted so easily.
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October 08, 2020, 12:16:45 PM Last edit: October 09, 2020, 12:45:42 AM by (o)(o)ilikeboobs(o)(o) |
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WHO is an independent organization and has its headquarters in the US and is funded by the US government to operate. It is based in the US and funded by the US does not mean they must always obey the orders of the US president. Mr. Trump is trying to accuse the WHO of negligence and failure to consider the CORONA Virus in China. I think Mr. Trump's actions are beyond their power and the charges against China are more for political purposes than the contribution and transparency of the WHO organization in preventing the epidemic.
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October 08, 2020, 12:42:53 PM |
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The thing is, the independency of this organization is questioned as they also play politics by not listening to Taiwan. If health is their first and foremost priority, the warning from Taiwan should also be taken seriously. Moreover, WHO responses about COVID were totally slow and ineffective.
Anyways, these worldwide organizations like WHO, WTO, and even EU, were suspected to be biased towards certain members (well, I'd argue that we just can remove subjectivity or bias). Hence, "strong countries" will have no problem getting out, and they did it.
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Yeah I think this is what a lot of people missed.
There's no way that China was going to willingly provide WHO information. Is it fair to be angry at China about this? Yes. Is it fair to be mad at the WHO? Kinda. It would've been nice to know that China was blocking the WHO or if the WHO had any suspicion there was something going on before the WHO told them.
I think this does open a lot of Americans eyes into if it'll make sense to continue to provide money to a group that is just an advisory group that is unable to stop a future COVID. There should be some real bipartisan research into this IMO.
guess your naive or have reading issues. actual facts is china DID give info to WHO and WHO checked it out, validated the reports and in first week of january was telling the world. all before a single person died. thats called rapid reporting trump did not publicly react until march, and only because he was getting huge pressure from hospitals worried they are increasing in admissions but not being funded to increase capacity. Pence tonight said trump shut down flights to china in january. WRONG china shut down their own flights. so planes ended up having to circle the skies because they would be penalised for not taking off in their timeslot from america. it had to be declared a pandemic before the planes could just park and not fly. trump then organised repatriation flights against the wishes of both china and WHO the only reason cases got into america is because of TRUMPS repatriation flights While this is a bit of an older story relating to China, it is still helpful. Source is the WashingtonTimes, so hate me on that if you want to. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/12/anthony-fauci-china-misled-world-coronavirus-erupt/?utm_source=Boomtrain&utm_medium=manual&utm_campaign=20171227&utm_term=newsletter&utm_content=morning&bt_ee=LxHIyWSyAg5zatW5wrCVa5sF3lOb6r5r%2BBV66luuFauci said back in April on Fox that the Chinese government was telling the US (and the World) that human contagiousness was minimal. China also had thretaned many doctors inside of China with prison for trying to warn the world on Social media. China hid this. Like, what else are we going to say there? You really think that while China was threatening jailtime for doctors that the WHO was able to get credible information?
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no thats america on america news saying american things about china.. not what actually happened in china
in the final 2 weeks of december. there were less than a dozen patients that were sick with a respiratory illness which at that point they had not identifier of. yep first patient in hospital was december 18th. it takes time to actually test and actually identify the actual reason. also in the following week or 2 the secondary people coming in were all direct contact links to wuhan seafood market. so there were many many speculations of terror attack, poisoning either intentional or just bad hygiene food poison
yep if a fish had a respiratory virus(much like the pangolin did) it can pass onto humans so before realising how bad it was. spreading fear thousands of miles away is just what is called 'crying wolf' if an international scream is heard for everytime someone went to hospital with a cough or food poisoning. people would stop listening to all the screams
and so what is prudent is to test quick, check twice, review again and then when 100% sure its not just limited to wetmarket. or just limited to a town. or a region or just a nation but can be something that can affect people internationally. then raise the international alarm
and all of that testing, reviewing, double checking. was less then 2 weeks. so cry all you want as to blaming china for trumps march actions.. but trump and the world knew in early january
in any country. if doctors were screaming world fear, when at that moment only proof was a dozen patients and no deaths then yea doctors would be repremanded. especially when those doctors were suspecting it was a virus. before the test results even came back in hindesight yes a few doctors guessed right.. but there were dozens thinking it was a terror attack and intentional poisoning plot. which is why crying wolf before 100% confirmed proof can be dangerous
funny thing is people were dying in late january in america. but in february trump was trying to downplay it himself. funny how when he tries to downplay the panic. he is hero. when a country wants to actually fully investigate before acting either way. they the villain.
just remember china told the world at start of january. and by jan 23rd locked down all flights. but a week later america demanded repatriation flights
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The WHO has been jumping all around as it's scientists and doctors all seem to have different opinions about Covid, and what to do about it. This means that as far as informing the world, things need to change. They need to change so that all the info can be shown to everybody who is interested. This is one of the best reasons for changing the information structure of the CDC in the USA - so that it isn't a little dictatorship within - and then letting the CDC take over in the USA to scientifically determine (with freely expressed science) what the whole Covid story is... at least in America. We have found out that Covid is not dangerous at all to people who are under the age of 30 years. We have found out that Covid is mostly dangerous to people who are over 65-70 years. We have found that the current CDC is trying to spread the idea of Covid being way more dangerous than it is. We have found that Covid death numbers are really unknown, because the CDC has attempted to greatly exaggerate them, and many government and medical officials went along with the exaggeration methods. If the WHO has settled down in their publishing of information about Covid, how do we know? The CDC sure hasn't. In the USA at least, we need something completely new, where scientists are individually allowed to publish their scientific findings, and a way to organize their findings so that all the various categories can be viewed by everybody who wants to look... along with the science for each. Perhaps this is being done to some extent. But nobody is talking about it. Yet it should be the most important thing talked about, so that we all can see why each scientist thinks as he does.
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without looking at cause. just looking at excess deaths. there have been OVER 200k excess deaths compared to normal. with less people driving for 6 months less kids travelling to school. less businesses open if there were no covid deaths. then there would be a decline in deaths compared to other years
estimates are nearing 300k discrepency of deaths. and guess what the thing hospitals are reporting as the main influx of patients with certain symptomology as cause of death.. yep covid
no they are not seeing 200k extra people having house fire burns or injuries from other things. they are seeing covid symptomology as the diagnoses. even if you ignore the 'testing' and just think about the number of people suffering from ARDS (acute respiratory diease) yep there is a big. and i mean 200k big notable death count related to respiratory disease. and when then testing them. yep its covid triggered.
just wake up to the facts available in october 2020 and stop thinking the only info you have is february 2020
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without looking at cause. just looking at excess deaths. there have been OVER 200k excess deaths compared to normal. with less people driving for 6 months less kids travelling to school. less businesses open if there were no covid deaths. then there would be a decline in deaths compared to other years
estimates are nearing 300k discrepency of deaths. and guess what the thing hospitals are reporting as the main influx of patients with certain symptomology as cause of death.. yep covid
no they are not seeing 200k extra people having house fire burns or injuries from other things. they are seeing covid symptomology as the diagnoses. even if you ignore the 'testing' and just think about the number of people suffering from ARDS (acute respiratory diease) yep there is a big. and i mean 200k big notable death count related to respiratory disease. and when then testing them. yep its covid triggered.
just wake up to the facts available in october 2020 and stop thinking the only info you have is february 2020
Just wake up to the fact that nobody knows even close how many Covid deaths there have been. Why not? Because, as it has been found, there is all kinds of incorrect reporting of deaths by all kinds of nations everywhere. But there has been barely any increase in overall deaths worldwide. The death count is so mixed up, that nobody can tell how close to reality the Covid death count really is. ONE THING IS FOR SURE. There are far more deaths from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, car accidents, and all kinds of other things than have been purportedly come from Covid... individually or combined. The whole Covid pandemic is a big fat lie. Trump's letter to the WHO is merely part of his attempt to straighten out the whole, lying, medical leadership. Note that he has taken authority away from Fauci as another part. And he has replace Debra Birx with Scott Atlas... good cleanup actions besides the WHO letter.
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While waiting for the vaccine the virus spread and more people died. Even people can die in the beginning when the vaccine is provided and all its problems are tried until resolved. Red tape is necessary but a burden on those who are anxiously awaiting a FDA and WHO-approved coronary treatment solution. Meanwhile President Trump has called for healing using infinite light.
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While waiting for the vaccine the virus spread and more people died. Even people can die in the beginning when the vaccine is provided and all its problems are tried until resolved. Red tape is necessary but a burden on those who are anxiously awaiting a FDA and WHO-approved coronary treatment solution. Meanwhile President Trump has called for healing using infinite light.
The total deaths statistics show that deaths weren't any different than a mild flue season. Covid death counts are Covid lies.
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