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November 24, 2020, 12:31:06 AM
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Gambling chance of winning is so low, luck for me is random, or if you ever find the strategy it will be reset by the casino or by the banker, they have studied everything before they establish it, so more likely that whenever a technique is discovered they will immediately find a way to counter it, if not they will bleed for money, this is why the casino is successful they always have a counter to the player, every game has a different combination, they have 90% of winning leaving every player slight chance of winning with lots of combination.

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November 24, 2020, 12:37:32 AM
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Exactly the point. Casinos knows what they do. If a gambler discovers a strategy, it will only work for a short period. It stops working once the casino discover that there is a strategy that is being used to collect money from then. Next thing they do is to change the way the game is programmed and it will only favour the first set of gamblers that discovers the strategy.
Yes, I already know this thing and casinos won't let this thing happen, they don't want someone to make the best strategy that will let someone bags all the money, so they will change the odds, the tricks and algorithm for them to win over the gambler. And luck is true in gambling, I believe in it and sometimes me myself is winning a game because of luck only, I didn't expect anything but luck. I love lottery because odds are big and difficult, so the only thing I have is pure luck.

That is what happens in the casino. The casino will not let you win, and if you can win, that is because of your luck, and the casino can't do anything. But they will make sure to get their money again, which is easy for them because they own the games.

The lottery is one of the gambling games based on luck. Many people like to test their luck, so that makes them play more and more. Related to the lottery, people can buy a lot of tickets because each ticket's price will not be too expensive. People are willing to use some money to buy that ticket hoping that one of the tickets will be out as the winner.
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November 24, 2020, 01:42:33 AM
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Not sure if that is really interesting or not as it was still a pure luck-base game. We know that participating in such kind of gambling has a very low percentage of winning as we only need luck.
Well, that could be our choice but it won't make help me and think about going to the lottery. And that is also because I wasn't convinced about how the system generates the result and I've decided to choose those things that I can maximize my knowledge.
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November 24, 2020, 01:54:12 AM
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Exactly the point. Casinos knows what they do. If a gambler discovers a strategy, it will only work for a short period. It stops working once the casino discover that there is a strategy that is being used to collect money from then. Next thing they do is to change the way the game is programmed and it will only favour the first set of gamblers that discovers the strategy.
Yes, I already know this thing and casinos won't let this thing happen, they don't want someone to make the best strategy that will let someone bags all the money, so they will change the odds, the tricks and algorithm for them to win over the gambler. And luck is true in gambling, I believe in it and sometimes me myself is winning a game because of luck only, I didn't expect anything but luck. I love lottery because odds are big and difficult, so the only thing I have is pure luck.

That is what happens in the casino. The casino will not let you win, and if you can win, that is because of your luck, and the casino can't do anything. But they will make sure to get their money again, which is easy for them because they own the games.

The lottery is one of the gambling games based on luck. Many people like to test their luck, so that makes them play more and more. Related to the lottery, people can buy a lot of tickets because each ticket's price will not be too expensive. People are willing to use some money to buy that ticket hoping that one of the tickets will be out as the winner.
Lottery is completely based on luck, but with casinos it is a part. We can't say gambling sites doesn't allow us to take money from them. Soon the gambling house will try to get it back from us. This is not the reality, reason for every loss is the gambler himself. They don't have the limitations and always greed of making more. This makes them go even after winning out of luck.

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November 24, 2020, 03:39:35 AM
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Not sure if that is really interesting or not as it was still a pure luck-base game. We know that participating in such kind of gambling has a very low percentage of winning as we only need luck.
Well, that could be our choice but it won't make help me and think about going to the lottery. And that is also because I wasn't convinced about how the system generates the result and I've decided to choose those things that I can maximize my knowledge.
but pure luck gambling is more entertaining than others because you don't expect anything but chances and this adds excitement being a bettor.

sometimes depend on our mood is what the outcome of our paying.

When we are in good mood and wanted to enjoy the game?no pressure and expectation?even if we lose our feeling wont hurt .

But when we are in longing for win?each bets seems like super heavy that the outcome will always favor us,if not failure is what we always felt.

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November 24, 2020, 05:33:22 AM
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Not sure if that is really interesting or not as it was still a pure luck-base game. We know that participating in such kind of gambling has a very low percentage of winning as we only need luck.
Well, that could be our choice but it won't make help me and think about going to the lottery. And that is also because I wasn't convinced about how the system generates the result and I've decided to choose those things that I can maximize my knowledge.
Well, the amount we would win scales with the chances so it's natural that it's very low since the amount you can possibly win can change your life (depending on your status of course). That's why luck-based games are quite famous after all, I mean who would play a luck-based game that has a high chance of winning, but only a small amount, possibly an amount that is even below what you spent to enter that game right?

That is what happens in the casino. The casino will not let you win, and if you can win, that is because of your luck, and the casino can't do anything. But they will make sure to get their money again, which is easy for them because they own the games.

The lottery is one of the gambling games based on luck. Many people like to test their luck, so that makes them play more and more. Related to the lottery, people can buy a lot of tickets because each ticket's price will not be too expensive. People are willing to use some money to buy that ticket hoping that one of the tickets will be out as the winner.
Well, without that kind of business plan, casinos wouldn't really profit or even become a stable business so it's actually understandable. Not to mention that lottery is an easy way for people to actually change their lives, plus as you said the tickets are cheap, so casinos would only need to calculate the minimum amount and set a cash prize that would still net them quite a hefty profit. And besides, it's almost a natural idea that casinos would always win, no matter what.

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November 25, 2020, 01:41:28 AM
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Lottery is completely based on luck, but with casinos it is a part. We can't say gambling sites doesn't allow us to take money from them. Soon the gambling house will try to get it back from us. This is not the reality, reason for every loss is the gambler himself. They don't have the limitations and always greed of making more. This makes them go even after winning out of luck.

We can win on the lottery games, but the chance will not too big because the casino will win most time. Perhaps we can win for some money, but we can win the jackpot if we have big luck. If we still play the lottery or other gambling games after we win, we can lose that win money and our initial money. It is natural if a gambler has greed after they win because it wants more than what we already got.

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Well, without that kind of business plan, casinos wouldn't really profit or even become a stable business so it's actually understandable. Not to mention that lottery is an easy way for people to actually change their lives, plus as you said the tickets are cheap, so casinos would only need to calculate the minimum amount and set a cash prize that would still net them quite a hefty profit. And besides, it's almost a natural idea that casinos would always win, no matter what.

Indeed. The casino will have their plan to get their profit, and no matter how hard we tried, the casino will win big. People like to play the lottery, especially in real-life, because they can buy many tickets with very little money. They hope that they can be one of the winners who can win the prizes. That is happening in the casino, which has a lottery game. In any gambling game, the casino will take the win, and of course, they will have much money from the losing gambler.
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November 25, 2020, 02:19:17 AM
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This system, known as Provably Fair, has been known for years, and it probably greatly contributed to the growth of crypto gambling industry, since it solved the problem of trusting in the fairness of the game. But it didn't solve trust completely, a casino can still make an exit scam, they can refuse to payout the winnings, and this cryptographic commitment scheme doesn't work for investors, which means that casinos could be theoretically defrauding them.

Yeah! I heard someone has agreed to settle the amount than getting his total winning amount because it's easy to their money like that and safe from refuse payment. Because if that luck really hit you, the amount of money you gonna win is million dollars and that is hard to transact.

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November 25, 2020, 02:41:57 AM
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This system, known as Provably Fair, has been known for years, and it probably greatly contributed to the growth of crypto gambling industry, since it solved the problem of trusting in the fairness of the game. But it didn't solve trust completely, a casino can still make an exit scam, they can refuse to payout the winnings, and this cryptographic commitment scheme doesn't work for investors, which means that casinos could be theoretically defrauding them.

Yeah! I heard someone has agreed to settle the amount than getting his total winning amount because it's easy to their money like that and safe from refuse payment. Because if that luck really hit you, the amount of money you gonna win is million dollars and that is hard to transact.
Though it is the best solution yet if i were the gambler?i will fight even if this cost of closing of that specific gambling site.

This has been always the outcome that the gambling site wins and the claimant will agree to what the site offers,so this is happening still.but if we will be a better man and won't let them fool the system?for sure in time they will never act like that again.

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This system, known as Provably Fair, has been known for years, and it probably greatly contributed to the growth of crypto gambling industry, since it solved the problem of trusting in the fairness of the game. But it didn't solve trust completely, a casino can still make an exit scam, they can refuse to payout the winnings, and this cryptographic commitment scheme doesn't work for investors, which means that casinos could be theoretically defrauding them.

Yeah! I heard someone has agreed to settle the amount than getting his total winning amount because it's easy to their money like that and safe from refuse payment. Because if that luck really hit you, the amount of money you gonna win is million dollars and that is hard to transact.

What's this a case of better than nothing at all? Very possible to happen as casino can easily
freeze your account and accuse you with something that they can not allow you to withdraw
your funds, and about to such amount of winning money you are also correct that with such
huge amount of money, transactions will be  questionable and the possibilities being hold is
very much higher than enjoying that huge amount of winnings.
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What's this a case of better than nothing at all? Very possible to happen as casino can easily
freeze your account and accuse you with something that they can not allow you to withdraw
your funds, and about to such amount of winning money you are also correct that with such
huge amount of money, transactions will be  questionable and the possibilities being hold is
very much higher than enjoying that huge amount of winnings.


But you will still be the owner of your account and it's your money. The casinos needs to actually proof to you that you did something wrong. Otherwise you can just go to court and get your money back. If someone is cheating the casinos are definitely going to keep the money and not pay you out. However if a casino would start to just block their biggest winners the reputation of casino would go downhill fast. Such red flags would stop other gamblers from playing on the casino.
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In the end, gambling is always related to pure luck, since you cannot control things yourself and you are always dependent on a machine or a player (s).

You can of course optimize your chances based on research. But luck is always a big factor in gambling and betting.

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November 25, 2020, 08:39:45 AM
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What's this a case of better than nothing at all? Very possible to happen as casino can easily
freeze your account and accuse you with something that they can not allow you to withdraw
your funds, and about to such amount of winning money you are also correct that with such
huge amount of money, transactions will be  questionable and the possibilities being hold is
very much higher than enjoying that huge amount of winnings.


But you will still be the owner of your account and it's your money. The casinos needs to actually proof to you that you did something wrong. Otherwise you can just go to court and get your money back. If someone is cheating the casinos are definitely going to keep the money and not pay you out. However if a casino would start to just block their biggest winners the reputation of casino would go downhill fast. Such red flags would stop other gamblers from playing on the casino.
If the gambling site is Legit and legal but what if not?just like those existing but long running casino online now?you cannot bring them to court for the reason that the casino did not pay you because why playing in illegal gambling when there are legal site that safer to deal with?

But yeah you can make a scam accusation here and let the community urge the owner to do necessary action.

But remember that this is not the only platform in which these casino advertising and luring players so Bitcointalk alone may nopt bring them down for accusation.









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November 25, 2020, 08:51:28 AM
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In the end, gambling is always related to pure luck, since you cannot control things yourself and you are always dependent on a machine or a player (s).

You can of course optimize your chances based on research. But luck is always a big factor in gambling and betting.
Luck base on the house edge, gambling works like this and we cannot change that one. That's why you have to understand the risk of gambling and gamble only if you have extra money and if you are willing to lose money. I do gamble to have fun, and I depend most of the time on my Luck and unfortunately gambling is not my thing and I don't want to gamble in long term because I might get addicted to this.
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In the end, gambling is always related to pure luck, since you cannot control things yourself and you are always dependent on a machine or a player (s).

You can of course optimize your chances based on research. But luck is always a big factor in gambling and betting.

Someone calls it luck and carries a variety of talismans or prays to the gods to increase the chances of winning. But in my opinion, winning is an accident, which can not be a pattern, no matter what talismans the player is carrying with him and whatever gods he prays.

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November 25, 2020, 04:10:36 PM
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In the end, gambling is always related to pure luck, since you cannot control things yourself and you are always dependent on a machine or a player (s).

You can of course optimize your chances based on research. But luck is always a big factor in gambling and betting.

Someone calls it luck and carries a variety of talismans or prays to the gods to increase the chances of winning. But in my opinion, winning is an accident, which can not be a pattern, no matter what talismans the player is carrying with him and whatever gods he prays.
Agreed that no matter how hard you pray to a variety of saints, gods and/or any higher entity you believe in, and even having any kind of charms, and talismans on you, it will never increase your chance of winning. Some believe by obtaining some kind of charms and/or after praying to god is the reason that they won on something but rather it's just a coincidence.
For me, gambling is all about luck and just as you said winning is an accident but so is losing even if the odds are on you. You're just lucky if you win whether the odds are against or on you.

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Everything related to gambling and betting comes with a great deal of luck. Whatever strategy you have, you always depend on others.
Being lucky with gambling is something you always need, but you can enforce it as best you can.

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November 26, 2020, 06:36:57 AM
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In the end, gambling is always related to pure luck, since you cannot control things yourself and you are always dependent on a machine or a player (s).

You can of course optimize your chances based on research. But luck is always a big factor in gambling and betting.

Everything related to gambling and betting comes with a great deal of luck. Whatever strategy you have, you always depend on others.
Being lucky with gambling is something you always need, but you can enforce it as best you can.
Both of you are right. When it comes to gambling, no matter what the gambling game type, it will need luck to win, whether it's a small win or a big win.
Getting lucky in gambling will be needed for every gambler who wants to win, but unfortunately, not many of them can win easily.
Some of them can win the games after spending some money, but others need to spend too much money to win.
And if that is what you got, it might not be worth it because, in the end, your win will be small than your loss.
But maybe you can increase your chances to win in the skills gambling games such as sports betting because I think that type of gambling game needs to have more information about the team that can be the winner.
Although you still need to have luck in that game, you can hope to win the game.

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November 26, 2020, 09:39:54 AM
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This system, known as Provably Fair, has been known for years, and it probably greatly contributed to the growth of crypto gambling industry, since it solved the problem of trusting in the fairness of the game. But it didn't solve trust completely, a casino can still make an exit scam, they can refuse to payout the winnings, and this cryptographic commitment scheme doesn't work for investors, which means that casinos could be theoretically defrauding them.


So nothing really is fair in an online casino?
or offline casinos can also commit fraud such as manipulating cards or whatever.
although it seems that offline will be difficult to implement. So is there really fair gambling?
it may be holding a tournament and the casino doesn't have to go far because it has already benefited from holding the tournament.
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Not sure if that is really interesting or not as it was still a pure luck-base game. We know that participating in such kind of gambling has a very low percentage of winning as we only need luck.
Well, that could be our choice but it won't make help me and think about going to the lottery. And that is also because I wasn't convinced about how the system generates the result and I've decided to choose those things that I can maximize my knowledge.
Luck alone wouldn't be sufficient you need to have strategies as well. I know strategies won't work for too long since once the owners discover it will be over. Still, this is one of the special factors to increase the odds of winning. But of course this will still depend on the games you were playing with, if the game was lottery then I guess you don't need a strategy for this one coz this game is considerably a pure-luck based game. Strategies can be only applied to a game like card games, dice game, sports betting, and more. The thing is don't rely too much on luck, you must do something to increase your chance of winning.



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