Trezor 1 two step initilization process and bootloader help

[ice guy john]

So I needed some help. I got a new trezor1 directly from satoshi labs and during the initialization process it only updated to firmware 1.6.3 and afterward's I got a pop up on the web wallet page saying the trezor is not up to date offering the update to 1.9.3

So my question here was that isn't the initial installation suppose to install the latest firmware directly or is this two step installation of the  firmware normal.

The next question I had was with regard to the bootloader. On the device after the first and  second initilization(after I wiped it once)  when entering bootloader mode it showed up as bootloader 1.5.1 or 2 along with the serial number.

However when I connected the device again after a few hours after a third wipe it now shows up as bootloader 1.8 and no longer shows a serial number. This is the case even after I wipe the device form the bootloader mode.

So I was wondering if  the bootloader does not get reset  back to the factory setting once updated to 1.8 even after you do a device wipe and if its just the firmware that's wiped.

Also now since the bootloader is permanently set at 1.8 now even after wiping the device the firmware now updates to 1.9.3 directly and  skips the 2 step process. Is this normal, I was always under the impression that the bootloader is also reset after wiping the device.

Thanks for the help and sorry for the long post.

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[jackg]

The firmware should've been up to date when it was written. It might have been written some time ago though... Did you get it from the official site and check the holo?

I think when you install or update, the bootloader should stay the same to procent other types of attacks as it should be used to authenticate any software downloaded (otherwise you're still just trusting the machine and the hardware wallet would be potentially useless).

So after the wipe it should have the same version of bootloader software but it won't regress the bootloader back to the one the device came with as thatd mean it'd have to store both....

[ice guy john]

Yea I got if from the official site itself and the packaging and holo were all good. No evidence of any tampering and the holo was in line with newest designs issued by trezor.

[jackg]

Yea I got if from the official site itself and the packaging and holo were all good. No evidence of any tampering and the holo was in line with newest designs issued by trezor.

In that case I think the bootloader is there to verify the next install to keep the device secure. I don't think I've deleted the firmware off a trezor in about a year though so someone else might know better.

[mk4]

You're probably better off asking the Trezor subreddit for some answers: https://www.reddit.com/r/trezor

Heads up, watch out for scammers that will masquerade as Trezor customer support. Definitely don't give out your wallet's 24-word backup phrase.

Alternatively, Trezor's customer support page: https://trezor.io/support