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October 19, 2020, 10:24:59 PM
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Trading is a new occupation for most persons who wants to work from home. It is a very lucrative job that requires a lot of experience as traders are supposed to be familiar with not just what goes on in the market but also, the instruments to work with for better prediction of the market.

Starting trade with a small amount or account size is possible. You can open an account with as low as $10. The difference is, your going to be very scared of taking a trading position in the market. Why? Because of your account size. Considering that the market always starts from a rather loosing position and sometimes might even kick against your position a few pips before heading to your direction, you just might have closed your trade on a lose dye to your account size. This risk is what a trader with a large account size is blind about as, his/she is not scared and can hold a loosing trade for a long time untill it changes to profit.
That's where account size comes to play in trading.

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October 19, 2020, 11:50:00 PM
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Having a huge capital fund only give cryptocurrency traders the chance of making good income in a single trade and it also increase the chance of lossing big either if extra precaution are not put in place. However, it doesn't make crypto trading more easier for the trader and what make crypto trading more easier are have good information about whales movement, accurate price alert bot or ticker and adequate trading knowledge.
Huge capital=huge gains/losses
Small capital=small gain/losses

Risk takers will prefer to fund big amounts and the reason why? It is because they don't mind about losing, no, they don't think about a chance to lose but instead, they positive about what they have started. The difference between the two small and big are just the numbers, they all can possibly lose but if you are good on how to make a trade, the chances of losing are quite low which it gives the idea why most successful traders are preferred for this.
Would really be subjective on how much capital you have put on and as mentioned it will really differ in numbers but the whole concept is just the same on how to make money out of trade
or investment.Of course its clear on whose the one do really had the advantage but on exchange it will really equal on the risk that they can potentially experience.
For people who are financially capabled then losses wont really hurt that much since they do have lots but it can really be felt later on when they are really on very deep reds.
Its never been easy for people to make profits neither you do have lots of capital to put on or just on average ones.

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October 20, 2020, 12:30:31 PM
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Having a huge capital fund only give cryptocurrency traders the chance of making good income in a single trade and it also increase the chance of lossing big either if extra precaution are not put in place. However, it doesn't make crypto trading more easier for the trader and what make crypto trading more easier are have good information about whales movement, accurate price alert bot or ticker and adequate trading knowledge.
Huge capital=huge gains/losses
Small capital=small gain/losses

Risk takers will prefer to fund big amounts and the reason why? It is because they don't mind about losing, no, they don't think about a chance to lose but instead, they positive about what they have started. The difference between the two small and big are just the numbers, they all can possibly lose but if you are good on how to make a trade, the chances of losing are quite low which it gives the idea why most successful traders are preferred for this.

I think that is why sometimes, the risk-taker can have any chance to get a better result than the other people because they can accept the risk, and they can work hard to reach what they want. But that is not always happening to them because sometimes, they can lose their money, but that will not stop them from using a big amount as investment or trading.

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October 20, 2020, 02:16:59 PM
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I don't recommend trading with big amount or amount you can't afford to lose/risk. If you are a good trader and can afford to risk a million dollar in trading, then go for it.
I wouldn't bother about making "much" if I did not invest alot of money. I think I will gradually increase my trading fund as I gradually become better at trading and earn more. So, I will be patient with the profit as I learn with small amount of money.

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October 20, 2020, 03:09:12 PM
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Actually big funds matters too, in fact with big funds you can achieve a lot during trading all you need is the right strategy and the right coin, and for someone to take such type of risks he really needs to be sure of the coin and be less greedy as well; in this case Bitcoin fits perfectly. Most times, bitcoin traders and/or holders wins, in fact all the time, now assume someone holding Bitcoin when it was low (maybe during the pandemic) and then sold when it pumped, the person ends up with good gains.
But yet, on the other hand, there is a reason why it is always advisable to invest what you can afford to lose; this is certainly because of the unpredictable nature of the crypto space where some people can be patient with their investments and others can't.
So amongst all these I see it this way, check yourself first and if you are the patient type, then long term holding can work, but if you are not, go for Bitcoin but invest what you can afford to lose.

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October 20, 2020, 03:24:23 PM
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I'm sure people who make trading for a living do it step by step, which means they will start trading to get experience and learn the good methods that suit for them, not only need huge capital but also consistency.

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October 20, 2020, 03:50:15 PM
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Having a huge capital fund only give cryptocurrency traders the chance of making good income in a single trade and it also increase the chance of lossing big either if extra precaution are not put in place. However, it doesn't make crypto trading more easier for the trader and what make crypto trading more easier are have good information about whales movement, accurate price alert bot or ticker and adequate trading knowledge.
Huge capital=huge gains/losses
Small capital=small gain/losses

Risk takers will prefer to fund big amounts and the reason why? It is because they don't mind about losing, no, they don't think about a chance to lose but instead, they positive about what they have started.
Risk taker whales prefer to invest big have positive thought but it not that they dont mind about losing.

The difference between the two small and big are just the numbers, they all can possibly lose but if you are good on how to make a trade, the chances of losing are quite low which it gives the idea why most successful traders are preferred for this.
The chance of making lost maybe low if a trader is good but experience is what cryptocurrency traders need to thrive due to the unpredictable momentum the market poses without the sign of what triggers it.

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October 20, 2020, 04:50:33 PM
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Actually big funds matters too, in fact with big funds you can achieve a lot during trading all you need is the right strategy and the right coin, and for someone to take such type of risks he really needs to be sure of the coin and be less greedy as well; in this case Bitcoin fits perfectly. Most times, bitcoin traders and/or holders wins, in fact all the time, now assume someone holding Bitcoin when it was low (maybe during the pandemic) and then sold when it pumped, the person ends up with good gains.
But yet, on the other hand, there is a reason why it is always advisable to invest what you can afford to lose; this is certainly because of the unpredictable nature of the crypto space where some people can be patient with their investments and others can't.
So amongst all these I see it this way, check yourself first and if you are the patient type, then long term holding can work, but if you are not, go for Bitcoin but invest what you can afford to lose.

Big funds means big investment, and a big investment may also be mean of big lose or huge risk. For me it doesn't matter how huge your capital in investment was as long as you know the principles of trading, you know how to control your emotions, you know how to play the market well then you can make the best out it. Let think of this, how so sure does having a lot of investing money make a trading for a living much easier? Trading has no assurance if you will gonna win. You can't be so sure that every investment you have will turn out successful, you must still consider the risk and the possibilities to get lose.
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October 20, 2020, 05:25:16 PM
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I don't recommend trading with big amount or amount you can't afford to lose/risk. If you are a good trader and can afford to risk a million dollar in trading, then go for it.
I wouldn't bother about making "much" if I did not invest alot of money. I think I will gradually increase my trading fund as I gradually become better at trading and earn more. So, I will be patient with the profit as I learn with small amount of money.


Slowly while learning the right process, it's not a quick way to earn but it's gradually happened when you already understand how the market really works, you can attest it with your personal experienced.

Always remember that in anyhow you are risking your money, there's no assurance aside from your will to developed you strategy that will gives you much stable favorable position.

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October 20, 2020, 08:19:41 PM
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There is also the chance that we do make the same amount of profit with the whales as well. Assume there is a defi and they give a certain amount of token for a certain amount of money, like let's say if you spend 100 dollars they give you 10k of that token and there is nothing more, you can't spend 100k on it, 10k is the biggest allowed, that means if that coin goes up we are all going to have the same profit from it as well.

I obviously know that is a rare situation and not what the regular trading is, but I believe it is still quite good as well, as long as we have a limited amount of equal chances with the whales we could take advantage of those situations to make a profit if we want to. The only thing we need right now is getting all the small timers all on the same page, be a big community but a family as well.
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October 20, 2020, 09:45:00 PM
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I'm sure people who make trading for a living do it step by step, which means they will start trading to get experience and learn the good methods that suit for them, not only need huge capital but also consistency.

they are confident that they already made trading a living , these traders are experienced and already have another source of income to live because trading cannot be counted on at all times but some of these traders do also started small and they grow thier capital slowly .

there is speech that you "you dont need to be rich to get rich " i watch this on an ad in a video platform . its just an ad but they got a point and this really do happen to dedicated people .
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October 20, 2020, 10:57:34 PM
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I don't recommend trading with big amount or amount you can't afford to lose/risk. If you are a good trader and can afford to risk a million dollar in trading, then go for it.
I wouldn't bother about making "much" if I did not invest alot of money. I think I will gradually increase my trading fund as I gradually become better at trading and earn more. So, I will be patient with the profit as I learn with small amount of money.


Slowly while learning the right process, it's not a quick way to earn but it's gradually happened when you already understand how the market really works, you can attest it with your personal experienced.

Always remember that in anyhow you are risking your money, there's no assurance aside from your will to developed you strategy that will gives you much stable favorable position.

Some people actually do what the OP has mentioned as a trading technique so I doubt that he can't do the same thing since there is very little risk with what he is doing and he is just trying to take profit with a 5% change which happens daily with Bitcoin. As long as he has a exit/cut loss point he will be safe with a few losses and a lot of trades that will have gains.  But you are right to say that there is more to trading than price changes as if he really wants to minimize the risk with all his trades the best thing he can do now is to try and learn trading through technical analysis so he will understand the different aspects of trading.
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October 21, 2020, 01:15:32 AM
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That is what I mean.  Like if you buy that much btc... it could be one or hundred... then say you want to make 5 percent... then get out... well you have your profit?  Of course the more trades you make, the better chances you can lose.  But isn't the statement you don't make or sell anything unless you sell?  That statement holds true right?


People say well you can lose a lot... well if you bought btc at ten k... even if it drops to 6k... well if you dont sell... you arent down money correct?   For example if someone bought hundred btc at ten thousand dollars a coin and spent a million dollars... well even if it dropped to 7k... sure your are down three hundred k... but you didn't sell yet... so that person isn't down yet right?  I mean if he sells it... yes there is a big loss.  But if he doesnt sell, there isn't any loss right?



And yea i mean like imagine you going to try to earn 5 percent each time.  Imagine sell it all at 5 percent profit.. then you just wait... Then say prices drop to 8k... now you buy another hundred btc or more since you have a million and a bit more with that profit.  Then say your goal is sell once it hit 8500... then you sell all and profit again.  Of course that could take as short as a day or months or even longer... but as long you don't sell ... well you dont lose right?
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Huge capital=huge gains/losses
Small capital=small gain/losses

Risk takers will prefer to fund big amounts and the reason why? It is because they don't mind about losing, no, they don't think about a chance to lose but instead, they positive about what they have started. The difference between the two small and big are just the numbers, they all can possibly lose but if you are good on how to make a trade, the chances of losing are quite low which it gives the idea why most successful traders are preferred for this.

I think that is why sometimes, the risk-taker can have any chance to get a better result than the other people because they can accept the risk, and they can work hard to reach what they want. But that is not always happening to them because sometimes, they can lose their money, but that will not stop them from using a big amount as investment or trading.
I doubt whales wouldn't worry about money, there was a book from Kevin O'leary famous shark tank investor and he talked about his past and how he became a rich person, and I could tell you that when he sold his company and put his money in investment instead of starting something new, he lost a big chunk of money once, and when that happened he was furious and very upset over it and he said he cried all night about it (don't know how real that is) and that is why I think whales do care about their money as well.

They might actually care about it more than you and me, if I ever crash and get poor, I am not too rich to crash too much money, in the end I will recover after few years, but when a super wealthy whale loses money, he becomes poor and that is not something you can regain so its the end for him.
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October 22, 2020, 08:04:52 AM
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Having lots of money doesn’t change anything in trading. This reminds a story of a friend when forex trading was new and trending and lots of people were rushing into it. Met a friend at a Cyber Cafe and he usually comes there everyday to do some forex trading stuffs and meet up with new people.

This guy wasn’t just a normal guy, he had lots of money to throw into the forex market, but it wasn’t working for him because he had no clue about how it works. It took till he bent down to learn it and invested his money properly before it worked. So it’s not about having money. There are people who had little funds, but due to they had understanding about the trading, they are able to raise that little money to something .
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October 22, 2020, 12:54:44 PM
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I doubt whales wouldn't worry about money, there was a book from Kevin O'leary famous shark tank investor and he talked about his past and how he became a rich person, and I could tell you that when he sold his company and put his money in investment instead of starting something new, he lost a big chunk of money once, and when that happened he was furious and very upset over it and he said he cried all night about it (don't know how real that is) and that is why I think whales do care about their money as well.

They might actually care about it more than you and me, if I ever crash and get poor, I am not too rich to crash too much money, in the end I will recover after few years, but when a super wealthy whale loses money, he becomes poor and that is not something you can regain so its the end for him.

It is probably not true. He probably got greedy and lost a bit of money but no whale ever puts everything all in one basket,,, that is what makes them whales. I have seen and heard all kind of people talk about their experiences with money and you always hear about the sad stories from rich people, but they never sound real. We know real people stories and they are dark. Simple. No tears. Fear.

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October 22, 2020, 01:12:51 PM
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Having lots of money doesn’t change anything in trading. This reminds a story of a friend when forex trading was new and trending and lots of people were rushing into it. Met a friend at a Cyber Cafe and he usually comes there everyday to do some forex trading stuffs and meet up with new people.

This guy wasn’t just a normal guy, he had lots of money to throw into the forex market, but it wasn’t working for him because he had no clue about how it works. It took till he bent down to learn it and invested his money properly before it worked. So it’s not about having money. There are people who had little funds, but due to they had understanding about the trading, they are able to raise that little money to something .
I agree with you 100% here because a lot of people think like putting a large amount of money will bring profits as there is a famous saying "rich gets richer and poor gets poorer" but this does not mean that you only have to put big funds into trading and profits will come of their own. You have to learn trading and implement each aspect you learn and then yeah with big funds will come more solidity and appetite to take bigger risks.

I like the story you mentioned about your friend but was wondering why he used to come at a Cyber Cafe since you said he had a big amount to put into forex so I was just curious why he didn't just had his own Laptop/Desktop.

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October 22, 2020, 01:21:57 PM
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In theory it is true with large capital, trading becomes easier. But when the practice will be different, so my advice is not to force
trading with large capital. Better we trade using the money that we can afford to lose, that's safe trading in my opinion. Because
using large capital is also a big risk.

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October 22, 2020, 03:37:01 PM
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It is not easy to trade with more money, but there are some benefits. Without trading knowledge, you can't make a profit by trading no matter how much money you spend. But many times it is not possible to make trading decisions and take some potential risks due to low capital which can be taken advantage of if there is sufficient capital. Therefore, it can be said that if there is more money, it is possible to use it at a proportional rate to trade in a relatively convenient way and make more profit. However, without trading knowledge, more money can not bring trading success.

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October 22, 2020, 04:12:35 PM
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The main problem is, would you really think about that when you have a lot of money in your hands?
I won't.
I will try a less risky method.
Business.

It ain't easy doing trades, most of the time you lose. I did.
Even though you have the right experience and best analyst on your side, it won't go the way you want it every day or week or month.
All those sweet words are just for advertisements.
That is the thing a business will give you way more profits than what the market can give you, but many businesses go bankrupt as well, if you have a way to produce good and consistent profits in the market then it makes more sense to invest in the markets if you have the capital to do so as over the long term you are almost guaranteed to be profitable.

However I know that what I am saying is in fact difficult to pull off as very few people have a winning system to begin with which makes the risk of creating a new business and trading roughly the same in which case it will be better to go for the business alternative as for the same risk it can produce bigger profits.
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