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October 10, 2020, 09:49:52 AM |
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Hi guys, this could be a great discussion for us to get some tips to help minimize the risk as although we are aware that our favorite gambling sites does not allow certain countries to use the site and yet we are still persisting to gamble. Personally, I don't read all the TOS in most sites I'm using as they didn't require a KYC so it's useless read all that when I believe I'm not covered since they will not know my real identity or where I am living.
However, lately, I've seen some complaints from user on account getting blocked or funds got frozen because such user belongs to a certain country where listed in the site not allowed to gamble, so I would like to hear your thoughts on how to deal with this kind of possibility that could happen to us since we still gamble despite knowing we are discourage not to.
To my fellow gambles, don't be shy to share your opinion, advises and experience so everyone will be aware.
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October 10, 2020, 10:00:58 AM |
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I try to stay away from platforms that does not cater to my country, so as to avoid the long and arduous journey of getting back my money should I invested or won some hefty sum on the said platform. Other people get around this regional or country restrictions by using VPNs or proxies where the platform caters to, though the risk of getting caught is still high even though you have your proxies and VPNs set properly.
But if the platform offers something unique for the experience and is really worth trying, I might try and deposit a couple bucks to try it for myself, and maybe that's it, mainly to satisfy my curiosity on the platform in question.
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October 10, 2020, 10:07:13 AM |
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If you are going to be worried about gambling because your country doesn't allow you to, then I suggest you don't gamble at all.
Most of the casinos try to make everything as legal as possible because the future of that kind of company is brighter than an illegal one. If the member lives in a country that doesn't allow them, it's the law not to let them play.
Maybe if they try to find a casino that accepts VPN and doesn't care about where you live anywhere in the world, that's the site. But I'm afraid there's always a risk when playing in a casino like that. Maybe unexpected closing of the site or scam. It's sad.
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October 10, 2020, 10:40:02 AM |
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If you are going to be worried about gambling because your country doesn't allow you to, then I suggest you don't gamble at all.
I think that is hard to find for a gambler, as a gambler we will find a way to gamble even if gambling is illegal in our country, but we will have to take the risk, and this is a high risk based on what OP has explained as a possibility. Most of the casinos try to make everything as legal as possible because the future of that kind of company is brighter than an illegal one. If the member lives in a country that doesn't allow them, it's the law not to let them play.
Maybe if they try to find a casino that accepts VPN and doesn't care about where you live anywhere in the world, that's the site. But I'm afraid there's always a risk when playing in a casino like that. Maybe unexpected closing of the site or scam. It's sad.
I haven't heard a casino publicly saying that they are accepting VPN as it's normal for some people who use VPN to maintain their privacy, but the moment you failed to comply with the KYC requirement when they ask for it, that's the risk their IMO.
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October 10, 2020, 10:41:44 AM |
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However, lately, I've seen some complaints from user on account getting blocked or funds got frozen because such user belongs to a certain country where listed in the site not allowed to gamble, so I would like to hear your thoughts on how to deal with this kind of possibility that could happen to us since we still gamble despite knowing we are discourage not to.
To my fellow gambles, don't be shy to share your opinion, advises and experience so everyone will be aware.
TBH I'm really against those users that have been accessing and playing gambling sites that they already know prohibited to their country. It's like you know it shouldn't be done yet you'd insist but in the end if you had a problem you'll be crying and blaming things and even accuse the platform you're using. We should always be gamble responsively in a way that we must respect the prohibition of certain gambling platforms. It isn't really a good practive to use VPN just to access restricted gambling platforms. As a gambler, I do suggest a disciplinary action on users who insist doing such activities, mostly users here in forum. It wasn't just right, never right at all.
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October 10, 2020, 10:45:00 AM |
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As a gambler, I do suggest a disciplinary action on users who insist doing such activities, mostly users here in forum. It wasn't just right, never right at all.
Damn, that was so harsh, how can we even do that, we are in a forum where we are just using a forum name, in short we are anonymous, so it's not going to happen, and also, I believe everyone is responsible enough when making such action, so if they'll do it despite the fact they know it's illegal, then for sure they are ready to face the consequences.
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October 10, 2020, 10:47:49 AM |
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In my country gambling is legal, you need to be 18 to either gamble in a physical casino or online. Since I am already quite old this is not a problem for me. I also had never issues with kyc or verifying myself at online casinos. I know a few people from the states who play online poker and had issues with finding websites where they can play. Most of them actually moved to Canada just to be able to gamble online without problems.
So I can't really give you sound legal advice how to gamble. But personally I would be very cautious if gambling was not allowed in your country. Its mostly your duty to follow the laws. Sure the casino needs to do it too, but since gambling is already illegal what bad can happen for the casino? They are already banned. Can't get much worse than that. Just imagine you win really big in the casino and they just block your account when trying to withdraw? Without legal status all the risks are with you.
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October 10, 2020, 11:08:02 AM |
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why will they complain when its thier fault in fact on why thier accounts got locked up because of country violation but the site do also have a problem with it . why cant they just block the ip that are coming from those country and to the people that uses a vpn too but is that possible ? idk if there is some kind of vpn detector that they can use to tell . country restriction like this are the same as age restriction or when they say that under 18 is not allowed but kids can still enter the site because they dont run a "know your costumer " policy
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October 10, 2020, 11:49:48 AM |
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why will they complain when its thier fault in fact on why thier accounts got locked up because of country violation but the site do also have a problem with it . why cant they just block the ip that are coming from those country and to the people that uses a vpn too but is that possible ? idk if there is some kind of vpn detector that they can use to tell . country restriction like this are the same as age restriction or when they say that under 18 is not allowed but kids can still enter the site because they dont run a "know your costumer " policy
That's the problem with some gambling websites. Like the OP said not everyone reads the TOS, and so some clients will just gamble without learning about country restrictions. This event might be considered as a fraudulent trick on the online gambling company's end for allowing someone without VPN to access their website, and blocking them on the latter specially when there's a huge funds stacked in the account. IMO, there's nothing much you can do If your account has been frozen due to country restrictions but to learn from such mistake. If ever you persist to gamble using VPN, don't store huge amount of funds as it will catch their attention and go after your account.
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October 10, 2020, 11:54:15 AM |
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why will they complain when its thier fault in fact on why thier accounts got locked up because of country violation but the site do also have a problem with it . why cant they just block the ip that are coming from those country and to the people that uses a vpn too but is that possible ? idk if there is some kind of vpn detector that they can use to tell . country restriction like this are the same as age restriction or when they say that under 18 is not allowed but kids can still enter the site because they dont run a "know your costumer " policy
That's the problem with some gambling websites. Like the OP said not everyone reads the TOS, and so some clients will just gamble without learning about country restrictions. This event might be considered as a fraudulent trick on the online gambling company's end for allowing someone without VPN to access their website, and blocking them on the latter specially when there's a huge funds stacked in the account. IMO, there's nothing much you can do If your account has been frozen due to country restrictions but to learn from such mistake. If ever you persist to gamble using VPN, don't store huge amount of funds as it will catch their attention and go after your account. They always have the advantage, even at that area where they can always point a user to their TOS once they frozen an account, so that's the risk that we should all know if we are still trying to evade the law by gambling with site with country restriction of ours.
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October 10, 2020, 11:54:26 AM |
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So I can't really give you sound legal advice how to gamble. But personally I would be very cautious if gambling was not allowed in your country. Its mostly your duty to follow the laws. Sure the casino needs to do it too, but since gambling is already illegal what bad can happen for the casino? They are already banned. Can't get much worse than that. Just imagine you win really big in the casino and they just block your account when trying to withdraw? Without legal status all the risks are with you.
I can't understand you dude. I don't know if you are onto the side of those who've accessing restricted gambling websites despite of prohibition or against them. First of all, every gambling platform tends to tell everyone which countries they don't support, while some supports countries yet lessen the games they can access (like Roobet). Hence no matter how huge you win on a certain casino then they've just banned you after detecting that you are accessing from prohibited country, then it wouldn't be their fault. Every gamblers musst be educated, respectful, and cautions.
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October 10, 2020, 12:02:38 PM |
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I don't usually check the TOS when I'm gambling as well since I'm spending like a max of $100 per day in gambling, and in case that amount would be frozen I'm sure I can move on and let go of it. I do gamble on sports, been gambling with the popular sites in the forum, to name some.
1. sportsbet. 2. nitrogen. 3. Bitsler 4. betbtc.
These sites does not give me a problem, so I'm okay with gambling though gambling could be illegal in our country.
I'm saying could be illegal as I am not really certain with the law since the I have been gambling in different crypto casinos since this forum was introduce by me and I never face a single problem in terms of legal matters.
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October 10, 2020, 12:20:33 PM |
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Haven't seen my country name in restricted list at any online casino, though gambling is illegal here. And I haven't faced issue with my fund at any casino. I always avoid those casino where user face this type of issue. Before playing on a casino we should read their rules. Cause while you register at a casino you need to accept their terms and conditions. If anyone play without knowing the rules then obviously it is his own fault.
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October 10, 2020, 12:37:06 PM |
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Haven't seen my country name in restricted list at any online casino, though gambling is illegal here. And I haven't faced issue with my fund at any casino. I always avoid those casino where user face this type of issue. Before playing on a casino we should read their rules. Cause while you register at a casino you need to accept their terms and conditions. If anyone play without knowing the rules then obviously it is his own fault.
Good for you, therefore you are not at risk when gambling, the only risk is you might lose but that is normal for us gamblers. By the way I saw a reply from betbtc in this thread, I thought this might help for those who are looking for a site with no restriction. Which countries are prohibited from using betbtc?
I only see this in T&C
''Please take in consideration that users from several locations are not allowed to register an account or place bets with us due to restrictions in this territory. We use an IP Blocking tool, however this is not 100% efficient as it can't restrict all range of IPs. If your IP is not blocked you are still not allowed to bet on BetBTC if you belong to these regions''
Hello, At the moment we are accepting users worldwide. Best regards, BetBTC
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October 10, 2020, 01:10:07 PM |
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I'm aware that my country isn't always on the lists of restricted countries on most gambling site, I just don't know if some does. If I'm aware that my country is always restricted on gambling online, I'd probably read first the TOS of every site just for verification before doing so some deposits. I'd probably stay away on gambling if I'm aware my stash will be locked and not proceed with too much risks, it's best not to.
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October 10, 2020, 01:23:52 PM |
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Basically there are two category of prohibited countries: The ones banned by the casino's license regulator, and the ones that aren't banned by them but have laws in their legislature forbidding gambling.
Casinos can only block the first category. The second category is too much work for them to assess their laws to determine for sure whether gambling online with crypto is prohibited or not, so they don't hire people to check.
That's why most of them say on their TOS that it's your responsibility to check if gambling is legal in your country before you register, but don't ban you if you sign up from those locations.
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October 10, 2020, 01:24:31 PM |
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However, lately, I've seen some complaints from user on account getting blocked or funds got frozen because such user belongs to a certain country where listed in the site not allowed to gamble, so I would like to hear your thoughts on how to deal with this kind of possibility that could happen to us since we still gamble despite knowing we are discourage not to.
To my fellow gambles, don't be shy to share your opinion, advises and experience so everyone will be aware.
Cloudbet is making a big noise now there are many gambling sites that freeze their gamblers accounts once they saw that they are registered on a country where the gambling site do not accept gamblers, to avoid issues do not register or use VPN you will get caught and the hardest thing to accept is when your account was freeze when you tried to withdraw your winnings, imagine they allow you to deposit but they will not allow you to withdraw your earnings because you break the rules, it's like they are just waiting for you to win so they can freeze your account.
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samcrypto
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October 10, 2020, 01:30:04 PM |
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First of all, you can’t play on that gambling site if you input your correct country where you came from since banned countries are already on the system and you have to know the consequences if you purposely input the wrong details. The risk of gambling on restricted area is high, you might be able to play some but you’re still not safe because you are not allowed to gamble at all, deal with it.
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October 10, 2020, 01:40:13 PM |
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Why would you want to pay when there are alternatives gambling sites that allow you to play, I have see the thread about Cloudbet and it's not really good, I'm not a high roller and always to be on a safe side so I will not even think of uisng VPN just to play even if the gambling site is attractive.
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October 10, 2020, 01:43:52 PM |
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I think this is quite risky because if you do not want to have any issues with your account and funds better use a gambling platform that supports your country. Even you can use a VPN still if they detect another login with your account there is a chance they will freeze it.
Sometimes before you play to their platform at the register startup they already give a warning or banned your IP to prevent creating an account.
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