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October 10, 2020, 01:53:04 PM |
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there are several gambling sites that are banned in my country and to be honest I definitely stay away from that gambling site.. I don't want to take risks such as losing money or my identity is misused (for gambling sites that apply KYC). I also don't like to use a VPN when gambling because of course the internet network is not secure. for now I am only actively using 3 crypto gambling sites and have no problems at all to date..
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October 10, 2020, 01:59:46 PM |
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You are two times at risked if you are going to use a VPN just to register and play in a gambling site that do not accept your location, you are gambling and you may lose and even if you win they will not allow you to cash out for breaking the rules, so you have no way to win here, just play in a safe gambling site and you will not have this kind of issue.
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pawanjain
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October 10, 2020, 02:02:45 PM |
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Hi guys, this could be a great discussion for us to get some tips to help minimize the risk as although we are aware that our favorite gambling sites does not allow certain countries to use the site and yet we are still persisting to gamble. Personally, I don't read all the TOS in most sites I'm using as they didn't require a KYC so it's useless read all that when I believe I'm not covered since they will not know my real identity or where I am living.
However, lately, I've seen some complaints from user on account getting blocked or funds got frozen because such user belongs to a certain country where listed in the site not allowed to gamble, so I would like to hear your thoughts on how to deal with this kind of possibility that could happen to us since we still gamble despite knowing we are discourage not to.
To my fellow gambles, don't be shy to share your opinion, advises and experience so everyone will be aware.
The best solution to this problem would be to create a barrier on the site which would prevent those people who are from such countries where gambling is illegal. Also, putting a disclaimer on the register form would be essential which says that using VPNs or IP addresses to mask your IP to create an account is against their policies and might lead to account getting frozen. This would warn the users to not use any methods which would mask their IP. Hence the users' original IP address will be fetched and the sites could then use their geo location to find out if they belong to any country where gambling is banned. If the users are from such countries they will not be able to create an account anyway since they would have already put a barrier on their site to prevent them creating an account.
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rijaljun
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October 10, 2020, 02:20:32 PM |
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I don't quite sure if their intention not to block the user or the just don't consider adding blocking feature for IP address on blacklisted countries. I think if I remember some user here created a topic and list down the casino which blocks and don't blocks IP users if they are restricted on playing on it.
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pixie85
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October 10, 2020, 02:31:13 PM |
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The reason for this is not only the illegality of gambling in certain countries but also that some countries require you to obey their tax and KYC laws even if you don't register there. Like if you provide services to US citizens you are obliged to follow US laws. Many companies don't want to deal with that and simply restrict US ips.
I know that many EU registered companies don't allow customers from countries like Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, because they don't follow the same monetary and KYC policies.
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plvbob0070
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October 10, 2020, 02:47:24 PM |
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It's their fault for accessing a gambling site that is restricted in their country so they should also know what possibilities could happen. I don't find it worth it to give extra effort just to gamble on sites that restrict my country since there are a lot of other gambling sites that I can choose where there would be no problems like that. I'm not a big gambler that's why I don't get why they will insist on gambling on those sites that don't allow your country, but accessing it illegally is just wrong so they should be prepared for the consequence.
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October 10, 2020, 02:49:34 PM |
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Hi guys, this could be a great discussion for us to get some tips to help minimize the risk as although we are aware that our favorite gambling sites does not allow certain countries to use the site and yet we are still persisting to gamble. Personally, I don't read all the TOS in most sites I'm using as they didn't require a KYC so it's useless read all that when I believe I'm not covered since they will not know my real identity or where I am living.
However, lately, I've seen some complaints from user on account getting blocked or funds got frozen because such user belongs to a certain country where listed in the site not allowed to gamble, so I would like to hear your thoughts on how to deal with this kind of possibility that could happen to us since we still gamble despite knowing we are discourage not to.
To my fellow gambles, don't be shy to share your opinion, advises and experience so everyone will be aware.
Here you are mixing the two things. First, if the gambling site has restricted your country, you should not play at that site, not even by using vpn because if they found out, they will not only block you but also will not give your money back. Secondly, if your country has restricted gambling but you still play it, then there is no risk from the gambling site to block your account but you could face legal complications if your government finds out that you are illegally playing gambling.
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nakamura12
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October 10, 2020, 03:04:44 PM |
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you already mentioned the reason why we should avoid such sites. If it ever happen that you won hefty amount then they suddenly ask for KYC (some sites did) even if they did not ask for kyc when you created an account then how would you get your money if your account is locked or frozen because gambling in your country is illegal?. Impossible right?, better find sites that doesn't do that.
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October 10, 2020, 03:25:24 PM |
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Well, reading TOS is really important if you truly want to avoid troubles. But I guess there are only a few gamblers who are interested in reading TOS. Others think that it is a waste of time because they dont think that gambling on a decentralized platform can make themselves being banned. And thats true. Casinos do not want to make anything uncomfortable to their gamblers. They only provide the best services in order for them to stay as long as they could.
However, if you are a careful gambler, using VPN is a way to become 90% anonymous and therefore, you can digitally change your location to a country in which gambling is allowed. As an experienced gambler, I have never been banned on any website even though my country totally prohibits gambling.
Or you can simply ask the support chat so that they can tell you whether your country is allowed or not. Chatbox is a friendly place with thousands of wise gamblers
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October 10, 2020, 03:36:04 PM |
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Or you can simply ask the support chat so that they can tell you whether your country is allowed or not. Chatbox is a friendly place with thousands of wise gamblers
I think that's the right thing to do or you can create a ticket asking if they can reconsider giving you a privilege to play even if you are using a VPN, than using a VPN right away and take a chance if the system will let you play or not, some gambling sites have a blocking features, others do not employ and you will get caught, when you already won and tried to withdraw your money because they are going to look if you follow the rules and your account is clean.
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October 10, 2020, 03:36:28 PM |
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The answer is already in your topic.
Reading TOS is very important, we shouldn't skip this one because this could be a reason for gambling sites that I guess may take advantage of the users. Spending your time of reading I guess 1-2 hours is worth it to save possible mistakes in the future and it could be lead to risking your fund if you violet any of their term. Much better if we aware than knowing that we had already banned due to small mistakes.
As a matter of fact, how could you open the site if it is illegal in your country? Using PVN is another story.
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October 10, 2020, 03:45:39 PM |
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Real men (gamblers) don't read TOS! I quoted mu_enrico on this, I tried to find a thread where he made this comment, but without success! Maybe he will see my comment here, and he will do that for us, anyway his words I totally agree with! However, lately, I've seen some complaints from user on account getting blocked or funds got frozen because such user belongs to a certain country where listed in the site not allowed to gamble,
It's not fair, if your country get blocked they should return you your funds, that would be fair! If they take the money, it's dishonest as it can be! I would like to know which casinos did that to know to stay away from them! I am from Serbia and here gambling is not illegal, but many casinos don't allow players from my country! Some do, but I am not eligible for some bonuses, I can't play all games... one of the reason why I contact support before I deposit with some bonus, am I good for that or not. Reading TOS is boring, I like to ask support directly and to get direct answers!
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palle11
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October 10, 2020, 04:01:15 PM |
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there are several gambling sites that are banned in my country and to be honest I definitely stay away from that gambling site.. I don't want to take risks such as losing money or my identity is misused (for gambling sites that apply KYC). I also don't like to use a VPN when gambling because of course the internet network is not secure. for now I am only actively using 3 crypto gambling sites and have no problems at all to date..
Avoiding the gambling site that has been ban in the country is the best thing to do. The country took such decision for a particular reason meant to benefit the country people. So no need for hiding identity and try to sign up because on winning, the site knows it has been outlawed in that country and might delay payment of winning or never pay the money, they know you did that in the dark and won't want to expose yourself to avoid going to jail for the offence.
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October 10, 2020, 05:47:49 PM |
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Real men (gamblers) don't read TOS! I quoted mu_enrico on this, I tried to find a thread where he made this comment, but without success! Maybe he will see my comment here, and he will do that for us, anyway his words I totally agree with!
LMAO, I believe this was when I got "pranked" by bitcoincasino.io mate, with their mandatory KYC for a mere $50 (IIRC) withdrawal. Real men don't read the ToS, they try The problem with ToS is that there is no guarantee it will be enforced. Even though they stated country-x prohibited from access etc., who will act if the casino doesn't do as stated? FBI? Interpol? Better ask the support for the real answer. You know... humans always compromise things.
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October 10, 2020, 07:38:41 PM |
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Or you can simply ask the support chat so that they can tell you whether your country is allowed or not. Chatbox is a friendly place with thousands of wise gamblers
I think that's the right thing to do or you can create a ticket asking if they can reconsider giving you a privilege to play even if you are using a VPN, than using a VPN right away and take a chance if the system will let you play or not, some gambling sites have a blocking features, others do not employ and you will get caught, when you already won and tried to withdraw your money because they are going to look if you follow the rules and your account is clean. ^ It is definitely right, there is nothing wrong if you will communicate with the support team of the gambling site. But why people are being lazy to read the term of service/use? If you are concerned of reading long content, you can also check the FAQ, for sure summarized information that frequently asks was there. Nevertheless, speaking of using PVN this is also the most probihited in a certain gambling platform, probably because using PVN is not fair for them, once your country is ban, you are not allowed to use.
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October 10, 2020, 08:27:29 PM |
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My advise is not to play in casinos where your country is not allowed because:
- Maybe with a VPN or Proxy you are able to play. - Maybe you can withdraw if it is with cryptocurrencies and the amount is little.
But if you win a really big prize, trying to get paid and falling in some phishing or illegal personal data purchase may ruin your life... for me it is not worth the risk: go for a casino where you can legally play, or if your country permits it, invest in some solid mid-cap/low-cap coin, which is like gambling...
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October 10, 2020, 08:50:18 PM |
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Just choose gambling sites that do not care which country we are from, that way we can play gambling safely and comfortably. Because forcing to play in gambling which prohibits our country, it will be risky in the future if it gets caught. Imagine if we get caught our account could get banned, our funds could even be frozen. What is there we can lose all the capital we have on the gambling site, so don't try to force playing on gambling sites like that.
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October 10, 2020, 08:56:35 PM |
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Why would you want to pay when there are alternatives gambling sites that allow you to play, I have see the thread about Cloudbet and it's not really good, I'm not a high roller and always to be on a safe side so I will not even think of uisng VPN just to play even if the gambling site is attractive.
Then, you're not a true gambler IMO, getting into gambling alone is risking and anyone who choose to gamble in any level must learn to take any form of risk for that purpose. I have always said this: gambling is for the risk takers and not for the swiftly but the industry still accommodating both the strong and the weak. In my past years in gambling, I have taken high risk and came out strong from all, this has actually made me stronger than I thought; 'risk is everything in gambling'.
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October 10, 2020, 09:03:11 PM |
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However, lately, I've seen some complaints from user on account getting blocked or funds got frozen because such user belongs to a certain country where listed in the site not allowed to gamble, so I would like to hear your thoughts on how to deal with this kind of possibility that could happen to us since we still gamble despite knowing we are discourage not to.
We need to be careful with these things happening as if users from a specific country are restricted on a gambling website, but that site still allows them making an account there, then there might be some catch behind and the owners of that site may not let you withdraw your money and all your wins in the future after blocking / freezing your account with the reason you gave. It's better to give the ToS a read rather than regretting later on. Next is, if we know that we are from a restricted country or if our own country does not allow us to gamble because it's illegal there, then better either stop it or find some sources like proxies and VPNs to bypass the laws and play freely. The only problem you might face is when these websites may start asking for a KYC.
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October 10, 2020, 09:14:01 PM |
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Signing up on a site against your country says it all it's a crime against the site and if found guilty such customer don't deserve any apology or sort of refund. Bookies are everywhere why risk your money
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