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October 10, 2020, 09:23:16 PM
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Signing up on a site against your country says it all it's a crime against the site and if found guilty such customer don't deserve any apology or sort of refund. Bookies are everywhere why risk your money

Trust me or not, most people do it just because their country prohibits them from gambling based on the law and constitution made there and been followed for decades. They just can't gamble because they're helpless here, but if a website doesn't have their country's name, they register there and start gambling without thinking that what they're breaking is their country's law and gambling is illegal at their place.

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October 10, 2020, 09:24:54 PM
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Just look to the TOS for the countries that they are not supporting. It would only take you around a few minutes upon reading which countries that they are not supporting. It's better to read that for awhile than to miss it when you come to the point of withdrawal and then you'll be put into investigation just because of it. You will be removing that problem from the beginning and it won't consume your time a lot if you do it before gambling in a casino of your choice.

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October 10, 2020, 09:33:19 PM
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Personally, I stay away from the gambling sites which clearly have the rules of banned countries. If the gamblers from the gambling banned countries wanna register, the IP ban shouldn't let the user make a deposit. For example, the Stake site doesn't let the users play the demo games on various providers, even some IP addresses are blocked for restricting the user from all kinds of activities. For third countries, there are Russia-based gambling sites that gladly accept gamblers for fiat deposit methods but let's not forget there are anonymous cryptocurrencies that can help to bypass the ban. 

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October 10, 2020, 09:44:59 PM
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Personally, I stay away from the gambling sites which clearly have the rules of banned countries. If the gamblers from the gambling banned countries wanna register, the IP ban shouldn't let the user make a deposit. For example, the Stake site doesn't let the users play the demo games on various providers, even some IP addresses are blocked for restricting the user from all kinds of activities. For third countries, there are Russia-based gambling sites that gladly accept gamblers for fiat deposit methods but let's not forget there are anonymous cryptocurrencies that can help to bypass the ban. 

That's right, I have visited several casinos before, and if for example my country is banned from playing on their site, they will give warning at the very start that your country is prohibited so you can't even sign up for that matter. Unless, the player will use VPN or other means to bypass the ban and that will be on him when the time comes for withdrawal. He should very well know that he will encounter this problem as he bypassed the ban. So I think, if you don't want to get into trouble, just make sure to read the ToS of the casino and that your country is not included in the prohibited countries.
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October 10, 2020, 09:47:05 PM
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This is s huge risk, both for gamblers and gambling site. Personally I don't think it's worth the risk and I also try to avoid any site that doesn't follow the strict rules of law and legitimacy.
There are some ways to avoid the ban like anonymous cryptocurrency but because of such activities cryptocurrencies still have negative reputation.

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October 10, 2020, 10:17:31 PM
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This is s huge risk, both for gamblers and gambling site.
For gamblers I believe but for gambling site, I am not sure, it what way they are at risk?

Personally I don't think it's worth the risk and I also try to avoid any site that doesn't follow the strict rules of law and legitimacy.
There are some ways to avoid the ban like anonymous cryptocurrency but because of such activities cryptocurrencies still have negative reputation.
Actually I'm asking about gambling in sites where you know your country is not allowed, it has nothing to do with cryptocurrency we are using as I haven't seen an illegal crypto currency that is allowed in most of the crypto gambling sites.

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October 10, 2020, 10:46:25 PM
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Personally, I stay away from the gambling sites which clearly have the rules of banned countries. If the gamblers from the gambling banned countries wanna register, the IP ban shouldn't let the user make a deposit. For example, the Stake site doesn't let the users play the demo games on various providers, even some IP addresses are blocked for restricting the user from all kinds of activities.
If they will ban the IP in the first place then there would be no problem as we won't be able to gamble at all, problem is they allow you to gamble despite your IP belongs to the list of countries where site does not allow, accept your deposit, you lose it's okay for them, their system doesn't detect, you win big that's where the problem starts as it will prompt to them, it's actually a win-win, on them.  Grin

For third countries, there are Russia-based gambling sites that gladly accept gamblers for fiat deposit methods but let's not forget there are anonymous cryptocurrencies that can help to bypass the ban. 
I'd love to know this, can you enlighten me a bit?

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Last edit: October 13, 2020, 01:53:45 AM by Danslip
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Gambling is banned in some mentioned countries for avoiding legal charges. The big governments can shut down websites whenever they want to do so. Anyone here if uses for the Puffin browser can confirm that many promoted gambling platforms on the forum don't load on this browser because the Puffin browser is based on US servers. The Stake, Roobet,Betcoin, and other websites don't load and the error happens after clicking on the registration button.
If the user accepts risk and decide to register on gambling platform which doesn't accept the gamblers from his location, the rest should be done by person himself. The risks will be bigger if the user can make a mystery winnings because the KYC mail will be on the mail address of the same user sooner or later. No exit from this infinite loop, unfortunately.

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October 10, 2020, 11:28:30 PM
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Gambling is banned in some mentioned countries for avoiding legal charges. The big governments can shut down websites whenever they want to do so. Anyone here if uses for the Puffin browser can confirm that many promoted gambling platforms on the forum don't load on this browser because the Puffin browser is based on US servers. The Stake, Roobet,Betcoin, and other websites don't load and the error happens after clicking on the registration button.  
Some are still taking risk and use other browser, I don’t know if they was able to gamble or not but if its illegal in my country, I won’t gamble because I don’t want to face any charges. Those gambling site who are still available on the said countries wont last there, so don’t over confident that the gambling site that you are using even if its illegal in your country will last, your government will know that soon so be cautious.

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October 10, 2020, 11:46:53 PM
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Gambling is banned in some mentioned countries for avoiding legal charges. The big governments can shut down websites whenever they want to do so. Anyone here if uses for the Puffin browser can confirm that many promoted gambling platforms on the forum don't load on this browser because the Puffin browser is based on US servers. The Stake, Roobet,Betcoin, and other websites don't load and the error happens after clicking on the registration button. 

Puffin browser uses a proxy server based in the US that's how it gets blacklisted everywhere, by the way this is the first time I've heard about this browser. Their wikipedia page has more worrying problems than getting the wrong IP address and country location:

Unlike most web browsers which render web pages internally, Puffin Browser uses external cloud servers to do the rendering, in a way similar to Opera Mini and the data saver mode in Google Chrome.[citation needed]

Because of that, all the unencrypted traffic of the user passes through the Puffin servers. This means that potentially sensitive information such as passwords passes in cleartext through the Puffin servers and may be logged by them.[citation needed] Puffin's privacy policy states that no web page's content is logged by them and that they do not have access to users' passwords.[42]

This browser doesn't even passes unencrypted HTTP connections through its proxy. HTTP has been long ditched for HTTPS but for the sites that are still using HTTP, all it takes is for Puffin's servers to be compromised and they can steal all the passwords and credit cards you put in those sites. I wouldn't trust a browser that wants me to trust it to send my unencrypted traffic to their servers, the risk is too much.

Same with Maxthon, they even went as far as sending your whole browsing history to remote servers. Totally untrustworthy browser if you ask me.

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October 11, 2020, 07:11:11 AM
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Gambling is banned in some mentioned countries for avoiding legal charges. The big governments can shut down websites whenever they want to do so. Anyone here if uses for the Puffin browser can confirm that many promoted gambling platforms on the forum don't load on this browser because the Puffin browser is based on US servers. The Stake, Roobet,Betcoin, and other websites don't load and the error happens after clicking on the registration button.  
Some are still taking risk and use other browser, I don’t know if they was able to gamble or not but if its illegal in my country, I won’t gamble because I don’t want to face any charges. Those gambling site who are still available on the said countries wont last there, so don’t over confident that the gambling site that you are using even if its illegal in your country will last, your government will know that soon so be cautious.
The question is, will our government know if we are gambling anonymously?

I don't think they would know that, the only risk I see is that on the account side, your account could be block and your money is gone, of course in the first place you can't complain as you know you are gambling illegally.

Our government may know people are accessing the site but they can't stop it unless the site itself will ban the IP address of a certain country.
Honestly, I never heard a news in our country that a gambler was jailed for gambling illegally in anonymous gambling sites, so I'm confident it will not happen.

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October 11, 2020, 07:12:36 AM
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Gambling is banned in some mentioned countries for avoiding legal charges. The big governments can shut down websites whenever they want to do so. Anyone here if uses for the Puffin browser can confirm that many promoted gambling platforms on the forum don't load on this browser because the Puffin browser is based on US servers. The Stake, Roobet,Betcoin, and other websites don't load and the error happens after clicking on the registration button.  
If at registration the user is already blocked then I think the problem is solved in regards to gambling in countries where gambling is illegal. In my opinion, the best course of action for this account freeze because the player is on a country that prohibit gambling is to send the prize anyway then ban their IP. The problem is the gambling sites make the problem seem complicated when the solution is obvious. I do not know if it my proposed solution is viable but I think that it is simple and it could work.

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October 11, 2020, 09:05:28 AM
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Signing up on a site against your country says it all it's a crime against the site and if found guilty such customer don't deserve any apology or sort of refund. Bookies are everywhere why risk your money

Trust me or not, most people do it just because their country prohibits them from gambling based on the law and constitution made there and been followed for decades. They just can't gamble because they're helpless here, but if a website doesn't have their country's name, they register there and start gambling without thinking that what they're breaking is their country's law and gambling is illegal at their place.

Exactly, that's the reality, and that's how gamblers think.

Crypto casinos has actually open opportunity for gamblers who have no chance of gambling in fiat casinos because it's ban in their country, and since crypto casinos does not require KYC, they even brag they are letting you gamble anonymously, so we enjoyed gambling on their site, and we are actually not thinking of the risk anymore though we are aware.

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October 11, 2020, 09:33:48 AM
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Not only that. They also accept players from countries where in order to offer their services, they would have to obtain a license. And they don't have one. Playing in those countries is not strictly forbidden, but it is forbidden to play in those casinos that have not obtained a license. And for the casinos,  it is forbidden to accept players from those countries.

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October 11, 2020, 10:12:35 AM
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Just look to the TOS for the countries that they are not supporting. It would only take you around a few minutes upon reading which countries that they are not supporting. It's better to read that for awhile than to miss it when you come to the point of withdrawal and then you'll be put into investigation just because of it. You will be removing that problem from the beginning and it won't consume your time a lot if you do it before gambling in a casino of your choice.

New gamblers fall in this category they sign up without reading the TOS and the rules of the gambling sites until it's too late to find out that they have violated the rules and worse of all they have earnings in their dashboard, they cannot circumvent the rules they will lose everything eventually.

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October 11, 2020, 10:52:35 AM
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Just look to the TOS for the countries that they are not supporting. It would only take you around a few minutes upon reading which countries that they are not supporting. It's better to read that for awhile than to miss it when you come to the point of withdrawal and then you'll be put into investigation just because of it. You will be removing that problem from the beginning and it won't consume your time a lot if you do it before gambling in a casino of your choice.

New gamblers fall in this category they sign up without reading the TOS and the rules of the gambling sites until it's too late to find out that they have violated the rules and worse of all they have earnings in their dashboard, they cannot circumvent the rules they will lose everything eventually.
They should blame themselves for that rather than sending complaints to the owner and ask for a refund. Since we are already aware of that kind of restrictions, we should have to read and find if the sites permit our country to participate otherwise, we just move on.
Everyone should be responsible for what we do, most lapses come from our laziness to read and understand the TOS and it brings back to us of what we have done.


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October 11, 2020, 11:06:14 AM
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Signing up on a site against your country says it all it's a crime against the site and if found guilty such customer don't deserve any apology or sort of refund. Bookies are everywhere why risk your money

Trust me or not, most people do it just because their country prohibits them from gambling based on the law and constitution made there and been followed for decades. They just can't gamble because they're helpless here, but if a website doesn't have their country's name, they register there and start gambling without thinking that what they're breaking is their country's law and gambling is illegal at their place.

Exactly, that's the reality, and that's how gamblers think.

Crypto casinos has actually open opportunity for gamblers who have no chance of gambling in fiat casinos because it's ban in their country, and since crypto casinos does not require KYC, they even brag they are letting you gamble anonymously, so we enjoyed gambling on their site, and we are actually not thinking of the risk anymore though we are aware.
Yeah those sites of gambling is not asking for KYC but in the time where you are just betting and winning small amount but when you Hit the jackpot thats the time problem will occur because sometimes they will even freeze your account or even banned for this,they may accused us of having multiple account or other cheating even if we provided KYC.



But of course gamblers will always make way to gamble as VPN is open to use keeping our privacy.



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October 11, 2020, 11:28:02 AM
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Not only that. They also accept players from countries where in order to offer their services, they would have to obtain a license. And they don't have one. Playing in those countries is not strictly forbidden, but it is forbidden to play in those casinos that have not obtained a license. And for the casinos,  it is forbidden to accept players from those countries.

I think those countries are not that active on the internet. I know that there are a lot of things they are focussing right now but there is also those government that could let this kind of thing slip by. The internet is a new vast world for some of them and for me, I think it is better if they could continue that since there would be a lot of other sites that would be involved that shouldn't be.

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October 11, 2020, 02:10:00 PM
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But of course gamblers will always make way to gamble as VPN is open to use keeping our privacy.
Using a VPN is still a risk as they could be falsely accused of multi accounting. They could use VPN temporarily to avoid the restriction but they can't always rely on it when gambling sites are quick to pull the trigger on blocking accounts.

This is s huge risk, both for gamblers and gambling site.
For gamblers I believe but for gambling site, I am not sure, it what way they are at risk?
I believe the gambling sites are risking their reputation since they're not doing their best to prohibit the countries listed on their terms and conditions.

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October 11, 2020, 02:18:49 PM
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It is always to the disadvantage of the user who violated the terms and conditions should there be an untoward situation arising.

If everything is running smoothly, then it will not matter. But once there is a certain situation where the user is asked to provide his KYC documents which include legal IDs with names and addresses and mobile number, it will be found out that he is actually violating the conditions of the site. This may result to having his account blocked and withdrawals locked. This means he might not be able to get his funds back.

So I recommend that we should just avoid playing in gambling sites which we are not allowed to play. It is better not risk. There are other choices. Who knows when we find ourselves caught in such a situation? The ending is probably against us because we have not read the terms and conditions and we lied when we ticked on the box saying we read and agreed with the TOS.
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