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October 11, 2020, 02:33:08 PM
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Same with the major user here who just choose the gambling site which is not required to pass the KYC before we are allowed to bet in the platform. I don't like the platform who ask the KYC entirely, it will bother me because most of the gambling platforms are banned in my country.

And maybe I suggest to the gambler who force themselve to bet in the gambling platform who ban their country to find another gambling platform which doesn't ban his country, the risk that will be faced is so much and you will not be comfortable to do that. Unless, you are okay with these problem and you are willing to loss your money because you can't withdraw it.
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October 11, 2020, 03:19:55 PM
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Just look to the TOS for the countries that they are not supporting. It would only take you around a few minutes upon reading which countries that they are not supporting. It's better to read that for awhile than to miss it when you come to the point of withdrawal and then you'll be put into investigation just because of it. You will be removing that problem from the beginning and it won't consume your time a lot if you do it before gambling in a casino of your choice.

New gamblers fall in this category they sign up without reading the TOS and the rules of the gambling sites until it's too late to find out that they have violated the rules and worse of all they have earnings in their dashboard, they cannot circumvent the rules they will lose everything eventually.

The very essence of reading TOS, like what you have said, many newbies are unaware or neglecting reading TOS they only realized it when they already suffering from any restrictions or freezing of their account.

They surely loss everything after the casino blocked them there's no way for them to recover their money, it's very important to pay attentions with every details in order to safely enjoying your gambling activities.

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October 11, 2020, 03:29:41 PM
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Just look to the TOS for the countries that they are not supporting. It would only take you around a few minutes upon reading which countries that they are not supporting. It's better to read that for awhile than to miss it when you come to the point of withdrawal and then you'll be put into investigation just because of it. You will be removing that problem from the beginning and it won't consume your time a lot if you do it before gambling in a casino of your choice.

New gamblers fall in this category they sign up without reading the TOS and the rules of the gambling sites until it's too late to find out that they have violated the rules and worse of all they have earnings in their dashboard, they cannot circumvent the rules they will lose everything eventually.

The very essence of reading TOS, like what you have said, many newbies are unaware or neglecting reading TOS they only realized it when they already suffering from any restrictions or freezing of their account.

They surely loss everything after the casino blocked them there's no way for them to recover their money, it's very important to pay attentions with every details in order to safely enjoying your gambling activities.

Well said. Many gamblers are to complacent and are eager to satisfy their desires on the current period, and does not really mind the incoming events or situation they will be at in the long run. Reading the TOS is indeed essential for a player to understand and decide if a website is worth the time, attention and risk.
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October 11, 2020, 04:25:15 PM
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Just look to the TOS for the countries that they are not supporting. It would only take you around a few minutes upon reading which countries that they are not supporting. It's better to read that for awhile than to miss it when you come to the point of withdrawal and then you'll be put into investigation just because of it. You will be removing that problem from the beginning and it won't consume your time a lot if you do it before gambling in a casino of your choice.

New gamblers fall in this category they sign up without reading the TOS and the rules of the gambling sites until it's too late to find out that they have violated the rules and worse of all they have earnings in their dashboard, they cannot circumvent the rules they will lose everything eventually.

The very essence of reading TOS, like what you have said, many newbies are unaware or neglecting reading TOS they only realized it when they already suffering from any restrictions or freezing of their account.

They surely loss everything after the casino blocked them there's no way for them to recover their money, it's very important to pay attentions with every details in order to safely enjoying your gambling activities.

Well said. Many gamblers are to complacent and are eager to satisfy their desires on the current period, and does not really mind the incoming events or situation they will be at in the long run. Reading the TOS is indeed essential for a player to understand and decide if a website is worth the time, attention and risk.

Lack of understanding and knowledge due to lazy reading, most people only read what is important or just look around without reading it properly.
TOS is very important for those who like to play gambling to know very clear rules and which gambling is supported or not supported in their country.

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October 11, 2020, 07:29:01 PM
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Well, if I were in that situation, --I would stick with the platforms that my country is allowing to operate without any violations just to make sure that my account and assets will be kept safe. It really is hard to take risks with the platforms which are not allowed or restricted.
And having a legal gambling platform will also allow you to play safer. Think about this idea and it will help you save some headaches.
Besides, it is always been secure to gamble in a gambling site that operated with a license because they also got audited from licensing companies.









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October 11, 2020, 08:13:58 PM
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Just look to the TOS for the countries that they are not supporting. It would only take you around a few minutes upon reading which countries that they are not supporting. It's better to read that for awhile than to miss it when you come to the point of withdrawal and then you'll be put into investigation just because of it. You will be removing that problem from the beginning and it won't consume your time a lot if you do it before gambling in a casino of your choice.

New gamblers fall in this category they sign up without reading the TOS and the rules of the gambling sites until it's too late to find out that they have violated the rules and worse of all they have earnings in their dashboard, they cannot circumvent the rules they will lose everything eventually.
Very common for gamblers and users not to read TOS upon signing up. We don't care about it until we start to face a problem for our withdrawal and we will only find it late that we're residing from the country that's not being supported. You might asked why they didn't just blocked the IP. For the admins or developers, there might be a reason why it didn't happened. And that's more on the technical side which they are the only one to explain.

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October 11, 2020, 08:47:27 PM
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Gambling is banned in some mentioned countries for avoiding legal charges. The big governments can shut down websites whenever they want to do so. Anyone here if uses for the Puffin browser can confirm that many promoted gambling platforms on the forum don't load on this browser because the Puffin browser is based on US servers. The Stake, Roobet,Betcoin, and other websites don't load and the error happens after clicking on the registration button. 

Puffin browser uses a proxy server based in the US that's how it gets blacklisted everywhere, by the way this is the first time I've heard about this browser. Their wikipedia page has more worrying problems than getting the wrong IP address and country location:
The working principles are as same as Virtual Private networks, so I don't think worrying about privacy is a case here if all data transfers through the channel are protected with AES256 bit encryption. The IP ban is usually country-specific if you ask me, so there should be a similar browser that has dedicated servers in accepted countries(EU) too. Due to compression of data, the slot games are ready 20 seconds later after clicking the "play" button. For 10 Mbps speed, it takes more than 1 minute to open the soft flash slots, now imagine the net speed in poor countries. Obviously, the ban prevents low-speed users to take advantage of third party browsers.

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October 11, 2020, 09:29:18 PM
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Lack of understanding and knowledge due to lazy reading, most people only read what is important or just look around without reading it properly.
TOS is very important for those who like to play gambling to know very clear rules and which gambling is supported or not supported in their country.

It's not about lazy reading but before, that kind of restriction isn't really implemented at most of the gambling sites. In crypto-gambling, there's no such thing as reading TOS before. The flow is running smoothly and only a few players experienced a problem.

It's just a few years ago if I'm not mistaken since that kind of heavy restriction implemented on some crypto-gambling sites. Maybe because crypto is progressing and become a watchlist in any country. With new crypto-gambling sites putting up restrictions like that, gamblers should now change their behavior of disregarding TOS.

Just give it time and people will be used to reading those terms first before considering using a specific site.
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October 11, 2020, 10:14:25 PM
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I don't read the TOS word by words but somehow I scan it just in case there are cases like this that is stipulated in a platform's TOS. However, if you leave in a country where gambling is strictly prohibited, secure your funds and account by reading the TOS before starting and account or depositing, to avoid having your account frozen or banned.

Reading the TOS if for your own good, it will not take much of your time. I do understand that most of us are already trust some gambling site and are eager to make an account that we miss reading the TOS, but be a responsible gambler to avoid conflicts on your part.
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October 11, 2020, 10:59:24 PM
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Hi guys, this could be a great discussion for us to get some tips to help minimize the risk as although we are aware that our favorite gambling sites does not allow certain countries to use the site and yet we are still persisting to gamble. Personally, I don't read all the TOS in most sites I'm using as they didn't require a KYC so it's useless read all that when I believe I'm not covered since they will not know my real identity or where I am living.

However, lately, I've seen some complaints from user on account getting blocked or funds got frozen because such user belongs to a certain country where listed in the site not allowed to gamble, so I would like to hear your thoughts on how to deal with this kind of possibility that could happen to us since we still gamble despite knowing we are discourage not to.

To my fellow gambles, don't be shy to share your opinion, advises and experience so everyone will be aware.
On this case, its always been important to know or read the terms first before you do play and if you are fully aware that they do block or restrict some countries and you do still proceed
then you've been blocked then theres no one that can be blamed off but only yourself and since from the start you had already known that they do have those terms and they do have the
full rights on blocking or banning such user and confiscate winnings since you had commited a violation and theres nothing you can do about it since its your fault.
Lesson learned? Always read up websites terms and conditions and if you do saw restriction then youre fully aware and decide if you do proceed or not.If proceed then you know
the risk so theres no need to regret if you get caught.

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October 11, 2020, 10:59:39 PM
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I think it's the responsibility of the gambler to read the TOS before playing in a certain casino, Country laws are being updated from time to time as well as the casino. If you feel that your country is prone to be banned, It's better to read first the TOS before registering and playing. I know using a VPN is a way for a gambler that resides in a restricted to play in a casino but forcing your way through it can give you a headache when you are requested to have verification.

If you are restricted to gamble, Just don't gamble. I'm sure there are allowed casino in your country that is not hit by you local law, Just play on that.

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October 11, 2020, 11:04:57 PM
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I think it's the responsibility of the gambler to read the TOS before playing in a certain casino, Country laws are being updated from time to time as well as the casino. If you feel that your country is prone to be banned, It's better to read first the TOS before registering and playing. I know using a VPN is a way for a gambler that resides in a restricted to play in a casino but forcing your way through it can give you a headache when you are requested to have verification.

If you are restricted to gamble, Just don't gamble. I'm sure there are allowed casino in your country that is not hit by you local law, Just play on that.

Exactly, that's our responsibility to read the TOS, however, that doesn't mean that everyone will follow, some gamblers knows it's illegal to gamble in the site and yet they still find a way, including hiding their IP through VPN just to play in a certain gambling site, you can't take that from them by saying read the TOS and follow as they also evaluate the gravity of penalty, if they think they can take it, they'll proceed playing even with that risk.

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October 12, 2020, 02:23:46 AM
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There are some people who are still eager to gamble even though gambling is prohibited on their country and I think if they don't want to risk getting their money frozen or confiscated then don't gamble at all.
They know the risk of doing it so they should also be prepared for the consequence the site has banned them because of their law against gambling so they should respect it.
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October 12, 2020, 02:47:11 AM
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There are some people who are still eager to gamble even though gambling is prohibited on their country and I think if they don't want to risk getting their money frozen or confiscated then don't gamble at all.
They know the risk of doing it so they should also be prepared for the consequence the site has banned them because of their law against gambling so they should respect it.

That is a big problem there are still people want it to try to gamble even they know its illegal and use other ways to open the website like using VPN etc. If they know its illegal they need to stop or else they will have a problem when times that they need to widraw thier money.
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I admit I have not read all the terms and conditions of all the gambling sites I used to play and currently playing on.

However, while it is the responsibility of every gambler to read the TOS of the gambling site he is using, I guess it is also the responsibility of the operator to actually restrict their services in the specific countries they list under their restricted countries.

It is one thing for a gambler to play on a site he is restricted from and quite another for a gambling site offering its services in territories they are not allowed to operate. That is sneaky of them.

In the event the location of the player is discovered, the site would easily lock the user's account and funds. But, to be fair, in the first place, why not install mechanisms which make the gambling services not accessible to restricted countries?

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October 12, 2020, 03:21:55 AM
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There are some people who are still eager to gamble even though gambling is prohibited on their country and I think if they don't want to risk getting their money frozen or confiscated then don't gamble at all.
They know the risk of doing it so they should also be prepared for the consequence the site has banned them because of their law against gambling so they should respect it.

That is a big problem there are still people want it to try to gamble even they know its illegal and use other ways to open the website like using VPN etc. If they know its illegal they need to stop or else they will have a problem when times that they need to widraw thier money.
Lol gambler use to this and they need to gamble because they are use to it and part of their living so we cannot hide gambling from them even what way they can do it.
and about withdrawals?they are ready for that,having fake KYC or have contact in other country that allows to withdraw.
but all in all?there is no impossible for them thats one thing i am sure off,lucky that i am from country that allows to play gambling in any way.

 I guess it is also the responsibility of the operator to actually restrict their services in the specific countries they list under their restricted countries.


Sorry mate but this  won't happen because gambling operators and owners care about the players and bettors that will enter their site.
even from what part of the world comes from and whatever their countries restrictions .









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October 12, 2020, 04:24:57 AM
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There are some people who are still eager to gamble even though gambling is prohibited on their country and I think if they don't want to risk getting their money frozen or confiscated then don't gamble at all.
They know the risk of doing it so they should also be prepared for the consequence the site has banned them because of their law against gambling so they should respect it.
Indeed thats why its a must to read the Tos and their rules in order to have an idea of what you're getting into. Just like that, you can encounter a problem and having a trouble how to get your money.

Thus if gambling is prohibited in your country just abide or else you might end up in a worse situation.

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October 12, 2020, 07:07:09 AM
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There are some people who are still eager to gamble even though gambling is prohibited on their country and I think if they don't want to risk getting their money frozen or confiscated then don't gamble at all.
They know the risk of doing it so they should also be prepared for the consequence the site has banned them because of their law against gambling so they should respect it.
Indeed thats why its a must to read the Tos and their rules in order to have an idea of what you're getting into. Just like that, you can encounter a problem and having a trouble how to get your money.

Thus if gambling is prohibited in your country just abide or else you might end up in a worse situation.

Be aware of the risk, that's it, so you'll not be surprise if you will suffer the consequences.

Actually this would also depend on how strict the regulation of a certain country, the fact that we are in crypto, I guess regulators will have a hard time finding those violators, so some are taking advantage of the crypto casinos, but if time will come they'll require a KYC, that would be the end of gamblers who still persist despite illegal in their jurisdiction.

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To my fellow gambles, don't be shy to share your opinion, advises and experience so everyone will be aware.

The TOS of the gambling sites has been the center of attention in most of the problems that I see here on the forum because many people even knowing that they are citizens of the USA continue to break the TOS of the gambling sites. If the person knows that they should not create an account on site X because TOS forbids it, why the hell does it create an account and then complain here on the forum because their money was blocked? I start to think that all gambling sites should write in big letters on the first page: "read the TOS before creating an account" I give reason to casino owners when they take certain actions, because it gets tiring to repeat the same thing over and over

In most cases TOS are not displayed well as it does not help in attracting gamblers. Gambling sites wants more gamblers so they'll just simply accept your bets regardless on where you are living as long as their system will not detect you but they could also implement the rules anytime they want and that's the risk pass on to the gamblers.

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