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October 13, 2020, 11:56:49 AM |
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Nevertheless, the blocks can be bypassed with VPN's.
That's always the best solution but that solution is always risky because it's hiding your IP address to prevent from the block coming from the site, by doing it, we should be aware of the risk that our account could sooner be compromise so it's not wise to invest in gambling with a decent money with that strategy.
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October 13, 2020, 12:10:22 PM |
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Surely, you enter unverified gambling sites knowing the risk of it because anytime they could flee taking all your money away. I bet crypto gambling sites knowing this consequences, because its not regulated, and scenarios like that could happen, even if they're trusted sites. Because of having no license this gambling platforms will surely have negative effect in the long term.
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October 13, 2020, 01:24:57 PM |
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Nevertheless, the blocks can be bypassed with VPN's.
That's always the best solution but that solution is always risky because it's hiding your IP address to prevent from the block coming from the site, by doing it, we should be aware of the risk that our account could sooner be compromise so it's not wise to invest in gambling with a decent money with that strategy. They can also detect if you are using VPN because some of them know some tricks to check whether you are using it or not. If they do so, they automatically suspect from those countries that banned gambling or where they cannot play gambling due to their country laws. So maybe the risk is your account will be temporarily locked and you will given a chance to prove you are not from those countries. This has happened to some users and we don't know whether they got their money back or not.
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October 13, 2020, 05:44:25 PM |
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This could not be easily resolved, as gambling sites and even websites with other services could not always track their customers IP. Most of the time, people also use VPN to bypass restrictions for the sake of playing. So even if the platform puts a filter to know and limit users from restricted countries, it could not be possible.
But in case that a gambling site explicitly allowing bets from countries where gambling is illegal, it could be reported and SEC or the institution responsible for regulations could stop the sites operation which is not good especially for those who have funds inside the platform. Their accounts could be freezer and funds could be confiscated.
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October 13, 2020, 05:57:48 PM |
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Lately I've seen some complaints from user on account getting blocked or funds got frozen because such user belongs to a certain country where listed in the site not allowed to gamble, so I would like to hear your thoughts on how to deal with this kind of possibility that could happen to us since we still gamble despite knowing we are discourage not to.
To my fellow gambles, don't be shy to share your opinion, advises and experience so everyone will be aware.
See here the List of the best Bookmakers that accept Cryptocurrency (most of them allow anonymous registration): http://sportstatist.com/bookmakers-that-accept-cryptocurrency-eng/
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October 13, 2020, 10:52:24 PM |
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Nevertheless, the blocks can be bypassed with VPN's.
That's always the best solution but that solution is always risky because it's hiding your IP address to prevent from the block coming from the site, by doing it, we should be aware of the risk that our account could sooner be compromise so it's not wise to invest in gambling with a decent money with that strategy. They can also detect if you are using VPN because some of them know some tricks to check whether you are using it or not. If they do so, they automatically suspect from those countries that banned gambling or where they cannot play gambling due to their country laws. So maybe the risk is your account will be temporarily locked and you will given a chance to prove you are not from those countries. This has happened to some users and we don't know whether they got their money back or not. There are instances but not really that common unless if the said VPN ip do really matches out some users who do make use of it which will really be a problem on where you do really need to verify anything that you do own that account. When using up VPN then you do know the risk on these kind of circumstances that's why you should really prepared on what things can possibly happen ahead. Once caught then confiscation is normal since you do violate their terms or site rules towards VPN or prohibited countries.
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October 13, 2020, 11:23:25 PM |
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If you are going to be worried about gambling because your country doesn't allow you to, then I suggest you don't gamble at all.
Most of the casinos try to make everything as legal as possible because the future of that kind of company is brighter than an illegal one. If the member lives in a country that doesn't allow them, it's the law not to let them play.
Maybe if they try to find a casino that accepts VPN and doesn't care about where you live anywhere in the world, that's the site. But I'm afraid there's always a risk when playing in a casino like that. Maybe unexpected closing of the site or scam. It's sad.
This is the reflection of my thoughts that if your country doesn't allow anything whatever it is, you should avoid it. This will be the real patriotism. Being illegal may cost many things from you and you can be tracked. By the way, I am from one of the third world countries of the world and here cryptocurrency isn't widely accepted. But we are using and trying to get facilities. The same thing is to gambling sites which are not legal in here but people still using it randomly
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October 13, 2020, 11:45:06 PM |
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This could not be easily resolved, as gambling sites and even websites with other services could not always track their customers IP. Most of the time, people also use VPN to bypass restrictions for the sake of playing. So even if the platform puts a filter to know and limit users from restricted countries, it could not be possible.
Some sites know this trick already and using a VPN with an unknown IP address might compromise your account and freeze as they will suspect it as illegal entry. Using a VPN couldn't be exactly the best thing to do just to escape the said restriction, the tool to avoid such compromise account is to wait the moment that the authority will allow people to gamble, otherwise, you'll be in trouble once caught and might lose your money at their site. Of course, we don't want it to happen and we don't need to force ourselves by then. Better to find other sites that don't have country restrictions.
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October 14, 2020, 12:15:30 AM |
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This could not be easily resolved, as gambling sites and even websites with other services could not always track their customers IP. Most of the time, people also use VPN to bypass restrictions for the sake of playing. So even if the platform puts a filter to know and limit users from restricted countries, it could not be possible.
Some sites know this trick already and using a VPN with an unknown IP address might compromise your account and freeze as they will suspect it as illegal entry. Using a VPN couldn't be exactly the best thing to do just to escape the said restriction, the tool to avoid such compromise account is to wait the moment that the authority will allow people to gamble, otherwise, you'll be in trouble once caught and might lose your money at their site. Of course, we don't want it to happen and we don't need to force ourselves by then. Better to find other sites that don't have country restrictions. I think the crypto gambling site allows people to visit on their site, whether they use a VPN or their real IP. The authority seems not making something related to their regulations about gambling in their country, and they don't ban the connection to that site. I think that could be the sign for people from the country that prohibit gambling not to playing gambling too often because they don't know if someday, their authority will ban the connection or track the IP or their locations. That means if people want to play gambling, they should do that for entertainment purposes and not use it for making money. If they can win, that will be a bonus for them.
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October 14, 2020, 01:18:52 AM |
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This is the reflection of my thoughts that if your country doesn't allow anything whatever it is, you should avoid it. This will be the real patriotism. Being illegal may cost many things from you and you can be tracked.
It's just the right thing about it. It's either you risk yourself to be arrested because you are not following the law or have the "thrill" of getting away with it and possibly earn thousands of dollars and then get arrested. It's illegal either way. Unless you are above the law. ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) By the way, I am from one of the third world countries of the world and here cryptocurrency isn't widely accepted. But we are using and trying to get facilities. The same thing is to gambling sites which are not legal in here but people still using it randomly
Maybe you are at the start of it and either way, it's still going to be a challenge to get everyone aboard the cryptocurrency space. And as I posted before, the one you quoted, if it's illegal in your country, don't do it.
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October 14, 2020, 03:15:55 AM |
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This could not be easily resolved, as gambling sites and even websites with other services could not always track their customers IP. Most of the time, people also use VPN to bypass restrictions for the sake of playing. So even if the platform puts a filter to know and limit users from restricted countries, it could not be possible.
Some sites know this trick already and using a VPN with an unknown IP address might compromise your account and freeze as they will suspect it as illegal entry. Using a VPN couldn't be exactly the best thing to do just to escape the said restriction, the tool to avoid such compromise account is to wait the moment that the authority will allow people to gamble, otherwise, you'll be in trouble once caught and might lose your money at their site. Of course, we don't want it to happen and we don't need to force ourselves by then. Better to find other sites that don't have country restrictions. Look at what happen now in cloudbet there are complain about the freeze account which came from USA. They can easily solve this by giving back the money that users deposit but they will require users documents and other data so they can know your exact location and see if they can give it back to you. same issuue that you can experience if you do this in other gambling sites.
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October 14, 2020, 07:59:57 AM |
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This could not be easily resolved, as gambling sites and even websites with other services could not always track their customers IP. Most of the time, people also use VPN to bypass restrictions for the sake of playing. So even if the platform puts a filter to know and limit users from restricted countries, it could not be possible.
Some sites know this trick already and using a VPN with an unknown IP address might compromise your account and freeze as they will suspect it as illegal entry. Using a VPN couldn't be exactly the best thing to do just to escape the said restriction, the tool to avoid such compromise account is to wait the moment that the authority will allow people to gamble, otherwise, you'll be in trouble once caught and might lose your money at their site. Of course, we don't want it to happen and we don't need to force ourselves by then. Better to find other sites that don't have country restrictions. Look at what happen now in cloudbet there are complain about the freeze account which came from USA. They can easily solve this by giving back the money that users deposit but they will require users documents and other data so they can know your exact location and see if they can give it back to you. same issuue that you can experience if you do this in other gambling sites. They required and I think the users has already submitted the required documents and yet the amount was still withheld, that's the risk when gambling knowing it's illegal in your country, everyone should be ready to face that consequences if we still persist gambling.
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October 14, 2020, 11:49:59 AM |
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This could not be easily resolved, as gambling sites and even websites with other services could not always track their customers IP. Most of the time, people also use VPN to bypass restrictions for the sake of playing. So even if the platform puts a filter to know and limit users from restricted countries, it could not be possible.
Some sites know this trick already and using a VPN with an unknown IP address might compromise your account and freeze as they will suspect it as illegal entry. Using a VPN couldn't be exactly the best thing to do just to escape the said restriction, the tool to avoid such compromise account is to wait the moment that the authority will allow people to gamble, otherwise, you'll be in trouble once caught and might lose your money at their site. Of course, we don't want it to happen and we don't need to force ourselves by then. Better to find other sites that don't have country restrictions. Look at what happen now in cloudbet there are complain about the freeze account which came from USA. They can easily solve this by giving back the money that users deposit but they will require users documents and other data so they can know your exact location and see if they can give it back to you. same issuue that you can experience if you do this in other gambling sites. I try not to reveal my identity. I always use a fictitious alias because I prefer third parties trying to make money on me do not know my real name. I never bring the amount of more than $50-100 to the gambling site, as signing a transaction of transfer of funds to the custodial platform can immediately consider this money lost forever.
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October 14, 2020, 12:40:29 PM |
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Hi guys, this could be a great discussion for us to get some tips to help minimize the risk as although we are aware that our favorite gambling sites does not allow certain countries to use the site and yet we are still persisting to gamble. Personally, I don't read all the TOS in most sites I'm using as they didn't require a KYC so it's useless read all that when I believe I'm not covered since they will not know my real identity or where I am living.
However, lately, I've seen some complaints from user on account getting blocked or funds got frozen because such user belongs to a certain country where listed in the site not allowed to gamble, so I would like to hear your thoughts on how to deal with this kind of possibility that could happen to us since we still gamble despite knowing we are discourage not to.
To my fellow gambles, don't be shy to share your opinion, advises and experience so everyone will be aware.
I think this is pretty shady on part of those exchanges who do this. Especially if they block the funds After receiving deposit. If they really are so worried about dealing with people from these countries they must explicitly first ask every user their country before they allow him to enter the website and there should be clearly written a warning of freezing of funds. The small privacy policy really doesn't helps much because people generally don't read it. Some would argue that it's the user's mistake who do such things but many users actually don't even know if gambling is legal or illegal in their country. Even the laws relating to gambling in my country are so complex. You cannot do offline gambling but there is no law relating to online gambling so there is literally no clarity.
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Nellayar
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October 14, 2020, 01:30:14 PM |
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There are only few gambling sites that I am playing. Fortune jack and roobet are my favourite gambling sites. So far, I never feel any concerns about illegal gambling site to my country. Although I know there are illegal gambling sites, I did not try to open them up. I did not use also gambling which are banned in my country because I don't like performing KYC. This is why we should first read the terms and agreement so that we have prior knowledge about the protocols that the site implemented.
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October 14, 2020, 05:29:59 PM |
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Hi guys, this could be a great discussion for us to get some tips to help minimize the risk as although we are aware that our favorite gambling sites does not allow certain countries to use the site and yet we are still persisting to gamble. Personally, I don't read all the TOS in most sites I'm using as they didn't require a KYC so it's useless read all that when I believe I'm not covered since they will not know my real identity or where I am living.
However, lately, I've seen some complaints from user on account getting blocked or funds got frozen because such user belongs to a certain country where listed in the site not allowed to gamble, so I would like to hear your thoughts on how to deal with this kind of possibility that could happen to us since we still gamble despite knowing we are discourage not to.
To my fellow gambles, don't be shy to share your opinion, advises and experience so everyone will be aware.
Since I understand the risk involved with having to gamble in sites that do not accept gamblers from my country, I stay from them as much as possible. I actually learnt this the hard way. There was a time I gambled on a site that do not accept users from my country. I remember at registration, there was no need for KYC which was exactly why I signed up only for my account to be blocked some months after because my country isn't listed among the countries accepted. It was painful because I had quite a substantial amount of funds in it before it was blocked. Now, I only gamble in sites that accept gamblers from my country
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Reid
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October 14, 2020, 05:53:50 PM |
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VPN had always been the solution for me. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) There was one time that I cannot log in with one of the known sports betting website. The funny thing is, I am already signed up months ago. I tried to log in like 5 times thinking it was just an error. It warns me that it was not allowed in my country. Tried everything like restarting my computer and internet connection but nothing solves it. Lastly, I tried turning off my anti-virus and it was solved. I think those anti-viruses also have features of blocking some websites or logging in. We will always be gamblers, soft, or hardcore. Thankfully, cryptocurrencies and the internet made it easier. The issue will be on how disciplined you could be.
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mezzaluna
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October 14, 2020, 06:11:07 PM |
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Hi guys, this could be a great discussion for us to get some tips to help minimize the risk as although we are aware that our favorite gambling sites does not allow certain countries to use the site and yet we are still persisting to gamble. Personally, I don't read all the TOS in most sites I'm using as they didn't require a KYC so it's useless read all that when I believe I'm not covered since they will not know my real identity or where I am living.
However, lately, I've seen some complaints from user on account getting blocked or funds got frozen because such user belongs to a certain country where listed in the site not allowed to gamble, so I would like to hear your thoughts on how to deal with this kind of possibility that could happen to us since we still gamble despite knowing we are discourage not to.
To my fellow gambles, don't be shy to share your opinion, advises and experience so everyone will be aware.
KYC would be already the best way to see where their users are coming from and these users can also gain fake identities and have the ability to cover their tracks if they are using TOR (The Onion Router) and VPN's. These steps would be enough for someone to be able to gamble in places that gambling is illegal BUT somehow the moral compass of gambling websites are still for the greater good and that is why maybe they should just block some countries from accessing it? (But still VPN's are able to go pass thru this).
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Kasabus
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October 15, 2020, 08:08:08 AM |
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Hi guys, this could be a great discussion for us to get some tips to help minimize the risk as although we are aware that our favorite gambling sites does not allow certain countries to use the site and yet we are still persisting to gamble. Personally, I don't read all the TOS in most sites I'm using as they didn't require a KYC so it's useless read all that when I believe I'm not covered since they will not know my real identity or where I am living.
However, lately, I've seen some complaints from user on account getting blocked or funds got frozen because such user belongs to a certain country where listed in the site not allowed to gamble, so I would like to hear your thoughts on how to deal with this kind of possibility that could happen to us since we still gamble despite knowing we are discourage not to.
To my fellow gambles, don't be shy to share your opinion, advises and experience so everyone will be aware.
KYC would be already the best way to see where their users are coming from and these users can also gain fake identities and have the ability to cover their tracks if they are using TOR (The Onion Router) and VPN's. These steps would be enough for someone to be able to gamble in places that gambling is illegal BUT somehow the moral compass of gambling websites are still for the greater good and that is why maybe they should just block some countries from accessing it? KYC wouldn't help if gambling sites would advocate the anonymous gambling, it just doesn't make sense IMO, they advertise anonymous gambling, allow you to gamble once and later you'll be required some KYC documents, that doesn't sound fair, but it's their rule so we have to be careful with that. (But still VPN's are able to go pass thru this). You can only pass this if you IP is blocked but if it's your identity, no chance as your account is already tied with your identity.
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October 15, 2020, 10:59:00 PM |
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~ Personally, I don't read all the TOS in most sites I'm using as they didn't require a KYC so it's useless read all that when I believe I'm not covered since they will not know my real identity or where I am living. ~
This is a problem for most players. When you check the box that you have read and agree to the ToS, you are performing a legally significant action, which means that you fully and unconditionally agree to the rules and are ready to comply with them. If you are a resident of a country whose citizens are not allowed to play on this site, then you must leave this site yourself. The site should not calculate you by IP and block your access. After all, citizens of other countries may temporarily stay in your country and this will limit their ability to play.
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